Lakers News: Dirk Nowitzki Has High Praise For Julius Randle
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The Los Angeles Lakers have started the 2015-16 NBA season winless through the first three games. However, in last night’s 103-93 loss to the Dallas Mavericks, Julius Randle was a bright spot as he finished with 22 points, 15 rebounds, four assists and four steals in 34 minutes.

After defending him for most of the night, Dirk Nowitzki had high praise for Randle according to Lakers Nation reporter, Serena Winters:

Since preseason, Randle has shown a unique skillset that is very rare for a power forward. Although Randle uses his strength well, he also has the ability to rebound and push the basketball for transition opportunities. As a result, Kobe Bryant has previously called his teammate ‘Lamar Odom in Zach Randolph’s body.’

After only playing one game in his rookie season, Randle has lost a lot of weight during the off-season and his play provides great optimism for the future of the franchise. Although he struggled in the first two games of the season, his game against the Mavericks should provide him with a lot of confidence as he looks to build on this performance.

In three games, Randle is averaging 13.3 points, 9.3 rebounds and 2.3 assists in 26.7 minutes.

Did he say anything about Russell?

  1. Where are all the Randle haters that were criticizing Randles stye of play last year.

    I TOLD YOU HATERS THAT RANDLES STYLE OF PLAY IS EXACTLY WHAT IS GOING TO MAKE HIM GREAT!

    Where are you fools now!!!!

    1. Dang.. There were Randle haters? WTF. Dude was an absolute gift. He looked amazing in last year’s summer league.

      1. Thats what I said.

        Go back to as recent as SL posts and people were saying:
        his style of play will get him into fouled out,
        he wont be able to control the ball,
        he wont be able to rebound,
        he will clog up the paint,
        his style will be ineffective with Hibbert!
        HAHAHAHA. Randle is having the last laugh!

        This shows you just how KNOWLEDGEABLE allot of these pessimistic wanna be Lakers “fans” are bro.

      1. Thats right hahaha.

        I didnt know a T Rex had the flight of pterodactyl bird. LOL.

        Randle has really long upper arms that makes his forearms look smaller.

        His anatomy gave Randle 14 rebounds yesterday and TWO double doubles in the first 3 games of the season!!

        1. well his wingspan is considered small in the NBA that’s just how it is… but obviously it hasn’t hindered him.

          there were people who had concerns about how that would translate on defense and if he would have trouble against bigger defenders, and how he looks like a typical tweener who dominated the PF role in college but is too small to play in NBA… etc. those are reasonable concerns that were mostly being echoed from actual sports writers and commentators.

          i don’t remember hearing anyone talk about talk about his ability to dribble or rebound or fouling issues or clogging up the paint at all.. but who knows.

        2. lol and 14 rebounds yesterday with his inadequate anatomy wow!

          You are right, thats why i just laugh at people that somehow believe they are right and that I am a “fanboy” so I am wrong.

      1. WTF are you talking about, I never said he played last year (not counting 1/2 of a game).

        Go back and read. I said people were talking negatively about his style of play. They were talking smack about his style of play even before he was drafted.

        The number one negative comment back then was that he was slow, followed up by “his style of play will never work in the nba”. Thats laughable now.

        For the record, my post had nothing to do with you or your post. Dont trip.

    2. I would like to meet these people who critiqued Randle. He only play 14 minutes last year. How can someone talk thrash.

    1. thanks for letting us know that nowitzki is a power forward, we didn’t know i mean he’s only been playing like for the last 1000 years. it was more of a joke about russell try to keep up, if you dont get jokes have someone explain them to you…. and last i checked basketball is 5 on 5 not 1 on 1 who are you byron scott?

      1. Oh real funny to bring up russell when this is about randle. This has nothing to do with 5 on 5 it was about dirk and his thoughts on randle and if u dont understand that then maybe someone needs to explain to u.

  2. What about setting more screens for Russel? What about getting more ball movement to really bring forward Russel’s unique court vision?

    1. Where are all the Randle haters that were criticizing Randles stye of play last year.

      I TOLD YOU HATERS THAT RANDLES STYLE OF PLAY IS EXACTLY WHAT IS GOING TO MAKE HIM GREAT!

      Where are you fools now!!!!

      1. Dang.. There were Randle haters? WTF. Dude was an absolute gift. He looked amazing in last year’s summer league.

        1. Thats what I said.

          Go back to as recent as SL posts and haters were saying:
          his style of play will get him fouled out,
          he is too slow,
          he wont be able to control the ball,
          he will get the ball stripped from him,
          he wont be able to rebound,
          he will clog up the paint,
          his style will be ineffective with Hibbert!
          HAHAHAHA. Randle is having the last laugh!

          This shows you just how KNOWLEDGEABLE allot of these pessimistic wanna be Lakers “fans” are bro.

        1. Thats right hahaha.

          I didnt know a T Rex had the flight of pterodactyl bird. LOL.

          Randle has really long upper arms that makes his forearms look smaller.

          His anatomy gave Randle 14 rebounds yesterday and TWO double doubles in the first 3 games of the season!!

          1. well his wingspan is considered small in the NBA that’s just how it is… but obviously it hasn’t hindered him.

            there were people who had concerns about how that would translate on defense and if he would have trouble against bigger defenders, and how he looks like a typical tweener who dominated the PF role in college but is too small to play in NBA… etc. those are reasonable concerns that were mostly being echoed from actual sports writers and commentators.

            i don’t remember hearing anyone talk about talk about his ability to dribble or rebound or fouling issues or clogging up the paint at all.. but who knows.

          2. lol and 14 rebounds yesterday with his inadequate anatomy wow!

            You are right, thats why i just laugh at people that somehow believe they are right and that I am a “fanboy” so I am wrong.

        1. WTF are you talking about, I never said he played last year (not counting 1/2 of a game).

          Go back and read. I said people were talking negatively about his style of play. They were talking smack about his style of play even before he was drafted.

          The number one negative comment back then was that he was slow, followed up by “his style of play will never work in the nba”. Thats laughable now.

          For the record, my post had nothing to do with you or your post. Dont trip.

      2. I would like to meet these people who critiqued Randle. He only play 14 minutes last year. How can someone talk thrash.

      1. thanks for letting us know that nowitzki is a power forward, we didn’t know i mean he’s only been playing like for the last 1000 years. it was more of a joke about russell try to keep up, if you dont get jokes have someone explain them to you…. and last i checked basketball is 5 on 5 not 1 on 1 who are you byron scott?

        1. Oh real funny to bring up russell when this is about randle. This has nothing to do with 5 on 5 it was about dirk and his thoughts on randle and if u dont understand that then maybe someone needs to explain to u.

    2. What about setting more screens for Russel? What about getting more ball movement to really bring forward Russel’s unique court vision?

    1. If he is consistent and not just play like that in one game he will definitely be with the rising stars or something.

      1. last place teams don’t get all stars, unless it’s a vote in.. which Kobe might get.

        Randle in Rising stars definitely. I wonder if they’re doing us vs world again?

  • great game. julius needs to TAKE more jumpers. he only took one, i think (he canned it). i also want to see him develop a bit of a mean streak.

    1. No question he is going to be a stud. I would like to see Scott call more post up’s for him. Not too many can deal with him down low

    2. Hes working on that exact thing. I suspect he will most likely introduce more of that as he feels more efficient with the jumper.

      Im calling it here first:
      There might be a baby hook shot in Randles permanent arsenal soon.

      RANDLE BALLING LIKE AN ALL STAR VET!

      1. if randle can start adding finesse to his power game in year 1 (basically)… he’s going to have a bright future…

    1. If he is consistent and not just play like that in one game he will definitely be with the rising stars or something.

      1. last place teams don’t get all stars, unless it’s a vote in.. which Kobe might get.

        Randle in Rising stars definitely. I wonder if they’re doing us vs world again?

  • great game. julius needs to TAKE more jumpers. he only took one, i think (he canned it). i also want to see him develop a bit of a mean streak.

    1. No question he is going to be a stud. I would like to see Scott call more post up’s for him. Not too many can deal with him down low

    2. Hes working on that exact thing. I suspect he will most likely introduce more of that as he feels more efficient with the jumper.

      Im calling it here first:
      There might be a baby hook shot in Randles permanent arsenal soon.

      RANDLE BALLING LIKE AN ALL STAR VET!

      1. if randle can start adding finesse to his power game in year 1 (basically)… he’s going to have a bright future…

  • Just think once he master finishing with the right and then when he becomes consistent with that outside jumper Randle will be a nightmare for other teams, We already know what Clarkson can do he just has to be more consistent with his jump shot he shoots to hard Clarkson should ask Kobe how he can improve on his touch and D.Russell Rondo already praised Russell in Espn i don’t know why Laker nation didnt report that Rondo and Russell are from the same city and Rondo said anytime Russell needs to help him he will.

  • Just think once he master finishing with the right and then when he becomes consistent with that outside jumper Randle will be a nightmare for other teams, We already know what Clarkson can do he just has to be more consistent with his jump shot he shoots to hard Clarkson should ask Kobe how he can improve on his touch and D.Russell Rondo already praised Russell in Espn i don’t know why Laker nation didnt report that Rondo and Russell are from the same city and Rondo said anytime Russell needs to help him he will.

    1. Nope, Hibbert has been better than Hill and Randle is decimating while Boozer wasn’t doing jack. The real problem is the team just isn’t playing together.

      1. totally agree. so many random isos and failed p&r that end with a bad shot (usually from kobe). also, i still don’t feel too great about lou and young being on the same team. can we trade one?

        1. Lou and Young have been good together. They’ve managed to bring the team back from being down with their ability to hit shots, especially since Kobe hasn’t been hitting them. Kobe oddly enough is hitting 45.45% of his 2’s, it’s his 3’s that are killing him. He’s shot 7 more 3’s than 2’s and made 4 fewer 10-22 2’s and 6-29 3’s. I’ve seen Kobe take and both miss and make some bad shots, but I’ve seen him miss a lot of good shots that he’d usually make as well. Preseason he looked good, but since the calf injury, he doesn’t seem to have his legs under him again. Might be one of those things where rest and a couple weeks before he’s back into gear again.

          1. It just feels (and this is with no expertise whatsoever) like it’s a waste to have two guys who do the same thing on the court at the same time.

            In my 2K universe, I wouldn’t mind trading one for a backup 3, or packaging with another good, but overlapping player like black for a vet and some picks.

          2. I’m really surprised Lou and Young has worked as well as it has tbh. In a way, I feel I shouldn’t be surprised tho’. I mean, both can shoot (Lou’s better imo) well enough that they require the defense’s attention as they can’t be left open for a second. So both being on the court together is a nightmare for the defense.

    1. Nope, Hibbert has been better than Hill and Randle is decimating while Boozer wasn’t doing jack. The real problem is the team just isn’t playing together.

      1. totally agree. so many random isos and failed p&r that end with a bad shot (usually from kobe). also, i still don’t feel too great about lou and young being on the same team. can we trade one?

        1. Lou and Young have been good together. They’ve managed to bring the team back from being down with their ability to hit shots, especially since Kobe hasn’t been hitting them. Kobe oddly enough is hitting 45.45% of his 2’s, it’s his 3’s that are killing him. He’s shot 7 more 3’s than 2’s and made 4 fewer 10-22 2’s and 6-29 3’s. I’ve seen Kobe take and both miss and make some bad shots, but I’ve seen him miss a lot of good shots that he’d usually make as well. Preseason he looked good, but since the calf injury, he doesn’t seem to have his legs under him again. Might be one of those things where rest and a couple weeks before he’s back into gear again.

          1. It just feels (and this is with no expertise whatsoever) like it’s a waste to have two guys who do the same thing on the court at the same time.

            In my 2K universe, I wouldn’t mind trading one for a backup 3, or packaging with another good, but overlapping player like black for a vet and some picks.

          2. I’m really surprised Lou and Young has worked as well as it has tbh. In a way, I feel I shouldn’t be surprised tho’. I mean, both can shoot (Lou’s better imo) well enough that they require the defense’s attention as they can’t be left open for a second. So both being on the court together is a nightmare for the defense.

        1. If this is our core. Randle is primary option, Clarkson the side kick, then Russell becomes a role player.

        2. Russell should not have been drafted by the Lakers. The idea of having a “superstar” to replace Kobe and building for the future clouded the judgement of the team. How different would the team be right now with Okafor instead of Russell? They would have a post presence that could space the floor, spread the shots and be a security blanket for the guards.

          1. Possible problem with okafor is he’d have to play PF cuz we had to get hibbert for defense. Hib/Oka frontline leaves Randle at the 3. I’m okay with that but not sure how Randle would handle it.

          2. Nah I think Mitch would have shoot more for a defensive 3 in Free Agency or try to trade for a defensive minded player like Hibbert.
            C be Okafor
            PF be Randle
            SF be Butler(did say he wanted to sign a 1 year deal with Lakers)

          3. Hibbert was offered for nothing, Lakers had to take. Why give up assets for someone defensive minded “like” Hibbert? Lakers only had Randle/#2 oa/ and another late 1st rounder. Other teams would want one of those.

          4. No we didn’t. See that is where everybody was wrong. Okafor could have been the center. If Bogut is considered a strong defensive center, are you telling me that Okafor can’t become one as well? It’s about the system. You put in a system where the players funnel the drivers to Okafor in the spots best for him and he will lead the league in blocks. Notice the best defensive centers in the league are not so because of their on-the-ball defense. It is their help defense. That is just as much about the system as it is those players.

          5. I’m pretty sure Okafor can’t be the same tier as bogut. If Okafor can average 2 blocks a season 3 tiems like bogut with a high of 2.6 (led the league) then Lakers has just made the biggest blunder in draft history next to Detroit with Milicic.
            Actually, the best defensive players are ones who make multiple efforts. Stop their man then go after the second shot. Defensive players don’t need a system. guys like Dwight, Deandre play defense anywhere they go.

          6. True but not the whole truth. Dwight is not nearly as effective defensively with the Rockets as he was with the Magic. Look at the numbers. Deandre’s effectiveness is impacted by the perimeter defenders funneling the players to him.

          7. This kid (Russell) will be a great PG he started playing last night if you were not watching, he started shooting and found some good passes, and was running the team, he is just getting started.

          8. That may be true. I liked what I saw last night. My problem is that, it is believed that you have to get the best available when you should be getting what is best for your team. Who cares if the guy you didn’t choose becomes great, if the guy you did choose still takes you to championships?

          9. Wouldn’t say he was running the team. Dude had only 1 assist. He just had a decent shooting night.

          10. One thing that is obvious for sure is that we could have used a big like Okafor on our second unit.

            Kelly and Bass combo are not working as copycat centers of the GS system.

  • Feed the beast.

    No reason why the offense shouldn’t be going through Russell and Clarkson

    EDIT: oops, meant Randle

        1. If this is our core. Randle is primary option, Clarkson the side kick, then Russell becomes a role player.

        2. Russell should not have been drafted by the Lakers. The idea of having a “superstar” to replace Kobe and building for the future clouded the judgement of the team. How different would the team be right now with Okafor instead of Russell? They would have a post presence that could space the floor, spread the shots and be a security blanket for the guards.

          1. Possible problem with okafor is he’d have to play PF cuz we had to get hibbert for defense. Hib/Oka frontline leaves Randle at the 3. I’m okay with that but not sure how Randle would handle it.

          2. Nah I think Mitch would have shoot more for a defensive 3 in Free Agency or try to trade for a defensive minded player like Hibbert.
            C be Okafor
            PF be Randle
            SF be Butler(did say he wanted to sign a 1 year deal with Lakers)

          3. Hibbert was offered for nothing, Lakers had to take. Why give up assets for someone defensive minded “like” Hibbert? Lakers only had Randle/#2 oa/ and another late 1st rounder. Other teams would want one of those.

          4. No we didn’t. See that is where everybody was wrong. Okafor could have been the center. If Bogut is considered a strong defensive center, are you telling me that Okafor can’t become one as well? It’s about the system. You put in a system where the players funnel the drivers to Okafor in the spots best for him and he will lead the league in blocks. Notice the best defensive centers in the league are not so because of their on-the-ball defense. It is their help defense. That is just as much about the system as it is those players.

          5. I’m pretty sure Okafor can’t be the same tier as bogut. If Okafor can average 2 blocks a season 3 tiems like bogut with a high of 2.6 (led the league) then Lakers has just made the biggest blunder in draft history next to Detroit with Milicic.
            Actually, the best defensive players are ones who make multiple efforts. Stop their man then go after the second shot. Defensive players don’t need a system. guys like Dwight, Deandre play defense anywhere they go.

          6. True but not the whole truth. Dwight is not nearly as effective defensively with the Rockets as he was with the Magic. Look at the numbers. Deandre’s effectiveness is impacted by the perimeter defenders funneling the players to him.

          7. This kid (Russell) will be a great PG he started playing last night if you were not watching, he started shooting and found some good passes, and was running the team, he is just getting started.

          8. That may be true. I liked what I saw last night. My problem is that, it is believed that you have to get the best available when you should be getting what is best for your team. Who cares if the guy you didn’t choose becomes great, if the guy you did choose still takes you to championships?

          9. Wouldn’t say he was running the team. Dude had only 1 assist. He just had a decent shooting night.

          10. One thing that is obvious for sure is that we could have used a big like Okafor on our second unit.

            Kelly and Bass combo are not working as copycat centers of the GS system.

        3. Naw, he was right, I made a typo….that’s what I get for posting while at work, but it would be nice to see Russell and Randle learn to PnR – that should be unstoppable.

  • Like i Always say, The Boy Is a Beast.. and he just getting started. Once he learn to slow the game down, and be consistent with his jumpers, He will dominate.. I think JC still is struggling with shoulder pain, but hes proven he will be something, and Russ needs to give it time.. He will be ok .. its about the future.. but for now, i am starting to put more blame into the coaching schemes, rather then these players. BS need to start stepping it up .. making better rotations, and dictating chit more, except being Phil Jackson and letting these rookies and old vets just play it out..

    1. Only thing I’m blaming on BS is his practices and tiring out his players. The guys don’t have their legs, they’re slow and their shots are clanking off the front of the rim or rolling across the rim and off. They’re not running their sets and aren’t being active. I honestly think they need to skip a practice or two, let these guys recover and get their legs and then see how they do.

      1. my thing is why run ALOT during practice, but not during the games.. need to push the tempo more. Another thing im not liking with Coach, is Bass in the middle. Our Rim protector is our last line of defense. When Hibb is in the game. the rim is protected, but once he leaves, its open to the public smh He needs to address that , and Being more vocal during actual playing time. Yell at them, tell them to dee up .. he just cross his arms and let it play out.. but its early still have alot of ball to play, but he has to step up as well

        1. A million people can see upshaw being better than Sacre and Bass/Kelly a horrible defensive unit, but it’ll never convince scott that what he’s seeing nightly is not a good product. Stubborn and delusional he is.

          1. exactly and thats what i dont get.. this man is a champion. Thats why i think its more too it.. behind closed doors.. first Kobe said he will step back and let D Lo run the show, and the first qtr it look like Kobe trying to do it all, and the coach did nothing. I think its more then what we fans see. i mean Stevie Wonder can see Kelly(which is playing well) and Bass back court is not cutting it.. idk bro .something up

          2. I don’t know about that….Upshaw couldn’t even set a pick and demonstrated a noticeable lack of activity on the boards. That’s not a vote of confidence in Sacre, it’s a vote of non-confidence in Upshaw – he’s still a year away from being a 3rd stringer

          3. i agree Boom, but what the purpose of keeping Sac when he’s not even playing.. i would rather see Sac out there rather then Bass in the middle.. Sac and Kelly would actually be ok .. height and outside shooting.. ITs B Scott man, i dont know what hes thinking..

          4. Agree 100% about Bass/Kelly — didn’t like it in the pre-season, like it even less now.

            And that’s totally on Scott…Bass is simply not a 5.

          5. his “inactivity” on the boards still got him more rebounds than sacre. Upshaw has tracking the ball instinct, the rest will come. Sacre has nothing left to show. You say a year, no problem. IMO Upshaw will be a #2 in a year with a ceiling of starting material. Meanwhile Sacre does nothing at the cost of upside.

        2. I’m with ya on the running. Problem is, you run the guys into the ground during practice, they don’t have legs during the game.

  • Like i Always say, The Boy Is a Beast.. and he just getting started. Once he learn to slow the game down, and be consistent with his jumpers, He will dominate.. I think JC still is struggling with shoulder pain, but hes proven he will be something, and Russ needs to give it time.. He will be ok .. its about the future.. but for now, i am starting to put more blame into the coaching schemes, rather then these players. BS need to start stepping it up .. making better rotations, and dictating chit more, except being Phil Jackson and letting these rookies and old vets just play it out..

    1. Only thing I’m blaming on BS is his practices and tiring out his players. The guys don’t have their legs, they’re slow and their shots are clanking off the front of the rim or rolling across the rim and off. They’re not running their sets and aren’t being active. I honestly think they need to skip a practice or two, let these guys recover and get their legs and then see how they do.

      1. my thing is why run ALOT during practice, but not during the games.. need to push the tempo more. Another thing im not liking with Coach, is Bass in the middle. Our Rim protector is our last line of defense. When Hibb is in the game. the rim is protected, but once he leaves, its open to the public smh He needs to address that , and Being more vocal during actual playing time. Yell at them, tell them to dee up .. he just cross his arms and let it play out.. but its early still have alot of ball to play, but he has to step up as well

        1. A million people can see upshaw being better than Sacre and Bass/Kelly a horrible defensive unit, but it’ll never convince scott that what he’s seeing nightly is not a good product. Stubborn and delusional he is.

          1. exactly and thats what i dont get.. this man is a champion. Thats why i think its more too it.. behind closed doors.. first Kobe said he will step back and let D Lo run the show, and the first qtr it look like Kobe trying to do it all, and the coach did nothing. I think its more then what we fans see. i mean Stevie Wonder can see Kelly(which is playing well) and Bass back court is not cutting it.. idk bro .something up

          2. I don’t know about that….Upshaw couldn’t even set a pick and demonstrated a noticeable lack of activity on the boards. That’s not a vote of confidence in Sacre, it’s a vote of non-confidence in Upshaw – he’s still a year away from being a 3rd stringer

          3. i agree Boom, but what the purpose of keeping Sac when he’s not even playing.. i would rather see Sac out there rather then Bass in the middle.. Sac and Kelly would actually be ok .. height and outside shooting.. ITs B Scott man, i dont know what hes thinking..

          4. Agree 100% about Bass/Kelly — didn’t like it in the pre-season, like it even less now.

            And that’s totally on Scott…Bass is simply not a 5.

          5. his “inactivity” on the boards still got him more rebounds than sacre. Upshaw has tracking the ball instinct, the rest will come. Sacre has nothing left to show. You say a year, no problem. IMO Upshaw will be a #2 in a year with a ceiling of starting material. Meanwhile Sacre does nothing at the cost of upside.

        2. I’m with ya on the running. Problem is, you run the guys into the ground during practice, they don’t have legs during the game.

  • Lakers had a gift handed to them. Randle shoulda been top 4 easily. Good thing teams got scared of his foot problems and passed. A draft redo. He’d be #3 possibly 2.

    Props to the FO for not taking Vonleh.

      1. he was #3 coming out of HS and I never saw him rise above Wiggins in the draft board thru the college season. But i’ll take your word for it.

  • Lakers had a gift handed to them. Randle shoulda been top 4 easily. Good thing teams got scared of his foot problems and passed. A draft redo. He’d be #3 possibly 2.

    Props to the FO for not taking Vonleh.

      1. he was #3 coming out of HS and I never saw him rise above Wiggins in the draft board thru the college season. But i’ll take your word for it.

  • It is time that everybody face facts, the Lakers made a decision to not be a playoff team this year during the summer. Instead, they decided to hopefully be a playoff team in the next 3 years. Had they wanted to win now, they would have drafted Okafor instead of Russell and signed Rondo instead of Hibbert. The starting five could have been Rondo, Clarkson, Bryant, Randle and Hibbert. That’s a playoff starting 5 team in the West.

    It’s also funny to me how many advocated for Russell over Okafor and at the same time advocated for Clarkson over Rondo. Many used an argument of being concerned that Rondo would hurt the growth of Clarkson. It would seem that Rondo would have helped his growth since Rondo is strictly a traditional point guard whereas Russell is a combo guard. On top of that, people said that Okafor and Randle would be a defensive nightmare. How is the defense right now?

    I would have preferred the playoffs now, but we will see if their long term idea actually pans out.

    1. If the Lakers made a decision not to be a playoff team, why did they choose Sacre, Kelly and MWP over guys who could be Lakers beyond this season?

      1. Neither Upshaw or Brown is significant enough to put any long term thought on. You make it sound like the Lakers sent away 1st round picks for Kelly and Sacre.

    2. That wouldn’t have been a winning or playoff now scenario. Hibbert has done a solid job at Center for playing defense, problem is other players aren’t rotating and taking his man. The team doesn’t need another offensive minded player in Okafor, who might I add is a poor, average at best defender. The Lakers are and look tired. You can see it in their legs. Kobe’s shot isn’t falling and I’m sure it has to do with the calf injury. Russell is still going to be a stud but he needs time to develop. Rondo had a great game against us sure, but the guy is mercurial and a problem. This great game against us was a good game for him period since he doesn’t have a dependable outside shot.

      1. I disagree totally.

        If the Lakers had a structured offense that was predicated on half-court low post play, it would help not only their offensive balance, it would help their defense. They would have positioning for rebounds, and positioning for getting back on defense. Plus, they would be able to dictate the tempo of the game. Why do you think Phil Jackson focused so much on the Triangle Offense with his teams. He knew that the more sound they were on offense, the better their defense would be.

        Right now the Lakers have no offensive system. Many times 4 players are above the arc. Not only is there poor ball movement, there is no off-the-ball movement either. And here’s the thing, the Bulls never had a strong offensive center with MJ, yet they still started the game throwing the ball into the center to set up the offense. I just believe that Okafor would have been a better choice. As for Rondo, by the end of the year, the only argument people will still be pushing against him is that his attitude wouldn’t of worked out. What they are overlooking is that he WANTED to be a Laker and WANTED to play with Kobe. His attitude would have been fine.

    3. Bro i wanted Okafor with the rest of the Okafor fan club, but they choosed Russel.. Russ will be nice. He just a player that need more time..

      1. I agree. However, what else are we going to talk about? You can only talk so much about a losing team. At least we can talk about what could have been.

    4. I am a Okafor fan but I was with us trading down to draft a guy like Stanley Johnson or maybe even Myles Turner to develop.

      1. Okafor can actually make mid-range jumpers. His jumpers are just flat-footed. Watched of couple of his 76ers highlights for the past few gams

        1. Still a bad pairing in my opinion. Hibbert is actually about as good of a pairing as we could have hoped for.

      2. Lamar Odom was NEVER a consistent 3-point shooter. Zack Randolph is not a reliable perimeter shooter right now. However, both have demonstrated how they can play with a low post center. Pau and Lamar were a strong tandem AND neither was really known for their defense. Zack and Marc have played great together for years.

        It’s about the system. At least with Okafor, we would have been building an identity. What do we have now?

  • It is time that everybody face facts, the Lakers made a decision to not be a playoff team this year during the summer. Instead, they decided to hopefully be a playoff team in the next 3 years. Had they wanted to win now, they would have drafted Okafor instead of Russell and signed Rondo instead of Hibbert. The starting five could have been Rondo, Clarkson, Bryant, Randle and Hibbert. That’s a playoff starting 5 team in the West.

    It’s also funny to me how many advocated for Russell over Okafor and at the same time advocated for Clarkson over Rondo. Many used an argument of being concerned that Rondo would hurt the growth of Clarkson. It would seem that Rondo would have helped his growth since Rondo is strictly a traditional point guard whereas Russell is a combo guard. On top of that, people said that Okafor and Randle would be a defensive nightmare. How is the defense right now?

    I would have preferred the playoffs now, but we will see if their long term idea actually pans out.

    1. If the Lakers made a decision not to be a playoff team, why did they choose Sacre, Kelly and MWP over guys who could be Lakers beyond this season?

      1. Neither Upshaw or Brown is significant enough to put any long term thought on. You make it sound like the Lakers sent away 1st round picks for Kelly and Sacre.

    2. That wouldn’t have been a winning or playoff now scenario. Hibbert has done a solid job at Center for playing defense, problem is other players aren’t rotating and taking his man. The team doesn’t need another offensive minded player in Okafor, who might I add is a poor, average at best defender. The Lakers are and look tired. You can see it in their legs. Kobe’s shot isn’t falling and I’m sure it has to do with the calf injury. Russell is still going to be a stud but he needs time to develop. Rondo had a great game against us sure, but the guy is mercurial and a problem. This great game against us was a good game for him period since he doesn’t have a dependable outside shot.

      1. I disagree totally.

        If the Lakers had a structured offense that was predicated on half-court low post play, it would help not only their offensive balance, it would help their defense. They would have positioning for rebounds, and positioning for getting back on defense. Plus, they would be able to dictate the tempo of the game. Why do you think Phil Jackson focused so much on the Triangle Offense with his teams. He knew that the more sound they were on offense, the better their defense would be.

        Right now the Lakers have no offensive system. Many times 4 players are above the arc. Not only is there poor ball movement, there is no off-the-ball movement either. And here’s the thing, the Bulls never had a strong offensive center with MJ, yet they still started the game throwing the ball into the center to set up the offense. I just believe that Okafor would have been a better choice. As for Rondo, by the end of the year, the only argument people will still be pushing against him is that his attitude wouldn’t of worked out. What they are overlooking is that he WANTED to be a Laker and WANTED to play with Kobe. His attitude would have been fine.

    3. Bro i wanted Okafor with the rest of the Okafor fan club, but they choosed Russel.. Russ will be nice. He just a player that need more time..

      1. I agree. However, what else are we going to talk about? You can only talk so much about a losing team. At least we can talk about what could have been.

    4. I am a Okafor fan but I was with us trading down to draft a guy like Stanley Johnson or maybe even Myles Turner to develop.

      1. Okafor can actually make mid-range jumpers. His jumpers are just flat-footed. Watched of couple of his 76ers highlights for the past few gams

        1. Still a bad pairing in my opinion. Hibbert is actually about as good of a pairing as we could have hoped for.

      2. Lamar Odom was NEVER a consistent 3-point shooter. Zack Randolph is not a reliable perimeter shooter right now. However, both have demonstrated how they can play with a low post center. Pau and Lamar were a strong tandem AND neither was really known for their defense. Zack and Marc have played great together for years.

        It’s about the system. At least with Okafor, we would have been building an identity. What do we have now?

  • This team sucks. But it will pay off if we are bad enough to keep our pick next year. Trust the process.

        1. I would say only way we keep the pick we are worst team in the NBA by the end of the year, Kind of very risky plus the season is still very early.

    1. i promise myself i wouldn’t scout another damn college game for my own likness, or wish for another tank season.. smh im trying not to break that promise.. only few games in, im already looking at Ben Simmons smh ..

  • This team sucks. But it will pay off if we are bad enough to keep our pick next year. Trust the process.

        1. I would say only way we keep the pick we are worst team in the NBA by the end of the year, Kind of very risky plus the season is still very early.

    1. i promise myself i wouldn’t scout another damn college game for my own likness, or wish for another tank season.. smh im trying not to break that promise.. only few games in, im already looking at Ben Simmons smh ..

  • I am so excited about Randle. It isn’t just that he is a good player but he does it in such an exciting fashion. I think we may have won the lottery!

    1. i would say he’s a close second, i still have Wiggins as my next Star, even tho he is looking a lil out these past games, but its early… and i have my Boy Embiid being the best Center for years to come, if he can get over his foot problem.. i would love for the Lakers to get him.

    2. I second that. This kid heart big time heart. He needs to be the #1 option on offense because he’s the most aggressive and relentless player we have

  • I am so excited about Randle. It isn’t just that he is a good player but he does it in such an exciting fashion. I think we may have won the lottery!

    1. i would say he’s a close second, i still have Wiggins as my next Star, even tho he is looking a lil out these past games, but its early… and i have my Boy Embiid being the best Center for years to come, if he can get over his foot problem.. i would love for the Lakers to get him.

    2. I second that. This kid has big time heart. He needs to be the #1 option on offense because he’s the most aggressive and relentless player we have

  • If we want our offense to be going, keep feeding Randle down low. Let him kick it out to Russell to a spot-up 3 or to Clarkson with the kick and drive.

    1. Sound like the best plan. and Push the rock. why start basically 3 rookies, and not push the rock.. smh

      1. Yep, they need to run every chance they get. For a half court offense to be successful, you need a couple great players in their prime. Push the damn thing at every opportunity.

        1. Clarkson is shooting over 50%. He should be shooting almost every time. Once the defenses are forced to try and contain him the floor will be a lot more open for other players. In most offensive schemes you want your best player shooting the ball.

  • If we want our offense to be going, keep feeding Randle down low. Let him kick it out to Russell to a spot-up 3 or to Clarkson with the kick and drive.

    1. Sound like the best plan. and Push the rock. why start basically 3 rookies, and not push the rock.. smh

      1. Yep, they need to run every chance they get. For a half court offense to be successful, you need a couple great players in their prime. Push the damn thing at every opportunity.

        1. Clarkson is shooting over 50%. He should be shooting almost every time. Once the defenses are forced to try and contain him the floor will be a lot more open for other players. In most offensive schemes you want your best player shooting the ball.

  • I have stayed away from doing so, but it is time to put the blame where it should be placed…the front office. It is hard for me to put the blame there since you can’t fire ownership. In fact, there is no real leverage fans can have against ownership. If there was, teams would not be crappy for years.

    However, my fault with the front office is simply this. They have repeatedly matched the wrong roster with their coaching selections. On top of that, they haven’t shown any consistency with their direction.

    You can’t select a coach independent of your roster selections. Furthermore, that is exactly what the Lakers continue to do. AND when they have selected the next coach, they change the roster at the same time, instead of seeing if the roster fits the new coach or not first.

      1. Think about when we signed Phil. Both times, he fit the roster or they made changes to the roster to fit him. Remember when he came the first time, he brought in Ron Harper and Brian Shaw with him. They also brought in Horace Grant after bringing in AC Green.

        Remember the second time, Phil said that what intrigued him about the Lakers was Lamar Odom. He saw a guy that could run the offense for him. You don’t think he would love Julius Randle with his variety of gifts?

    1. I somewhat agree, but I think Kobe is mostly to blame. Like Phil said in his book, Kobe isn’t coachable.

      1. He may not be coachable, but you CAN win with him. He isn’t the first or last uncoachable player. However, the fact that his teams have won 5 championships and had 2 additional finals appearances in a span of 20 years says a lot. You can’t blame Kobe for the past 3 seasons when he has been off the court more than on it. One thing Kobe has proven too, is that when you put the right pieces with him, he will do the right thing to win. He didn’t want to share the ball with Shaq, but he did. He didn’t want to share with Pau, but he did. Whenever you give him guys that have the basketball skills and talent to win, he will work with them because he wants to win first.

          1. That’s fine. It is stupid to argue in favor of Kobe right now given the circumstances. I equate Kobe right now, to Tiger Woods. In both cases, they had dominant stretches where people celebrated their success even though they didn’t like them as people. Injuries and domestic issues took both down. Neither has recovered. The media, fans and other players have enjoyed now pouncing on them because they know that they can’t punch back.

            It’s funny, no one would have had the guts to talk smack to Tiger during his prime and neither Kobe.

          2. The young guys just need to forget about Kobe and push the tempo and stop all this half court set nonsense

          3. Is Byron a push the tempo coach? I agree with pushing the pace. But, is that what Byron knows how to coach? Mike D’Antoni could.

          4. It doesn’t take any coaching to say “get the rebound and go”! Every damn time. There’s no Kareem, Magic, or Shaq. What are they walking it up for? No half court offense will work with this squad

          5. The Princeton offense is half court and that’s what Byron runs. That’s funny since, the Kings ran that same offense with Webber and Divac. It looked much better when they did it.

      2. He said that in his 2004 book, but he came back and coach him again and won two more titles.

  • I have stayed away from doing so, but it is time to put the blame where it should be placed…the front office. It is hard for me to put the blame there since you can’t fire ownership. In fact, there is no real leverage fans can have against ownership. If there was, teams would not be crappy for years.

    However, my fault with the front office is simply this. They have repeatedly matched the wrong roster with their coaching selections. On top of that, they haven’t shown any consistency with their direction.

    You can’t select a coach independent of your roster selections. Furthermore, that is exactly what the Lakers continue to do. AND when they have selected the next coach, they change the roster at the same time, instead of seeing if the roster fits the new coach or not first.

      1. Think about when we signed Phil. Both times, he fit the roster or they made changes to the roster to fit him. Remember when he came the first time, he brought in Ron Harper and Brian Shaw with him. They also brought in Horace Grant after bringing in AC Green.

        Remember the second time, Phil said that what intrigued him about the Lakers was Lamar Odom. He saw a guy that could run the offense for him. You don’t think he would love Julius Randle with his variety of gifts?

    1. I somewhat agree, but I think Kobe is mostly to blame. Like Phil said in his book, Kobe isn’t coachable.

      1. He may not be coachable, but you CAN win with him. He isn’t the first or last uncoachable player. However, the fact that his teams have won 5 championships and had 2 additional finals appearances in a span of 20 years says a lot. You can’t blame Kobe for the past 3 seasons when he has been off the court more than on it. One thing Kobe has proven too, is that when you put the right pieces with him, he will do the right thing to win. He didn’t want to share the ball with Shaq, but he did. He didn’t want to share with Pau, but he did. Whenever you give him guys that have the basketball skills and talent to win, he will work with them because he wants to win first.

          1. That’s fine. It is stupid to argue in favor of Kobe right now given the circumstances. I equate Kobe right now, to Tiger Woods. In both cases, they had dominant stretches where people celebrated their success even though they didn’t like them as people. Injuries and domestic issues took both down. Neither has recovered. The media, fans and other players have enjoyed now pouncing on them because they know that they can’t punch back.

            It’s funny, no one would have had the guts to talk smack to Tiger during his prime and neither Kobe.

          2. The young guys just need to forget about Kobe and push the tempo and stop all this half court set nonsense

          3. Is Byron a push the tempo coach? I agree with pushing the pace. But, is that what Byron knows how to coach? Mike D’Antoni could.

          4. It doesn’t take any coaching to say “get the rebound and go”! Every damn time. There’s no Kareem, Magic, or Shaq. What are they walking it up for? No half court offense will work with this squad

          5. The Princeton offense is half court and that’s what Byron runs. That’s funny since, the Kings ran that same offense with Webber and Divac. It looked much better when they did it.

      2. He said that in his 2004 book, but he came back and coach him again and won two more titles.

  • This was such a good post, I decided to put it as a separate one…

    It is stupid to argue in favor of Kobe right now given the circumstances. I equate Kobe right now, to Tiger Woods. In both cases, they had dominant stretches where people celebrated their success even though they didn’t like them as people. Injuries and domestic issues took both down. Neither has recovered. The media, fans and other players have enjoyed now pouncing on them because they know that they can’t punch back.

    It’s funny, no one would have had the guts to talk smack to Tiger during his prime and neither Kobe.

  • This was such a good post, I decided to put it as a separate one…

    It is stupid to argue in favor of Kobe right now given the circumstances. I equate Kobe right now, to Tiger Woods. In both cases, they had dominant stretches where people celebrated their success even though they didn’t like them as people. Injuries and domestic issues took both down. Neither has recovered. The media, fans and other players have enjoyed now pouncing on them because they know that they can’t punch back.

    It’s funny, no one would have had the guts to talk smack to Tiger during his prime and neither Kobe.

  • The future is really gold! Randle is amazing, man. I’m saying that for at least a year. His ball handle skills is on another level. He can be better than Blake Griffin (and Blake is already top 3 PF’s in this league).
    Randle got a feel for the game who only the greats has. Man, i’m already a fan of his basketball and his actitude.

    I’m looking for to D’angelo! All i know is he is the smoothest guy i’ve ever seen in college basketball and will figure out how to play in NBA level (HAS TO BE WAY MORE AGRESSIVE AND GET INTO THE PAINT, HE HAS HANDLES TO DO THAT! IS CRAFT ENOUGH!).

    I will watch every game this season for this young kids! I’m waiting for Nance!

    1. If Russell was the smoothest guy you ever saw in college, this must of been your first year watching basketball. No offense, he was good, but anything from the smoothest.

      There’s a reason why it was not an easy decision to take him number 2.

          1. In college yes. Every good player in college seems athletic, and agressive to me…
            D’angelo showed a great pass without efford. He was crafty, he create three pointers. He rebound the ball with poise. His game was like Ginobili in europe, and he was just 18 year old…

          2. Where is that now? It wasn’t in the summer league. It wasn’t in preseason. It hasn’t been so far in the season.

          3. I have a hard time understanding that. Even with Curry having people question him as a starting point guard, he at least showed enough flashes early on to keep others believing.

            Russell hasn’t shown me anything, yet the talk from practice is that he’s the man.

          4. Look for the minor foretelling things, not his overall game.

            Look at his body motion. Look at how quickly he dishes the ball. Look at where hes looking opposed to where he actually passes. It happens so quickly sometimes its hard to notice but he can control the ball very well.

      1. I agree with Lucas. Russell may not be the smoothest, but he has pretty damn smoothe fluidity.

        Anyone that is natural like that can be huge!!!

        It’s a matter of time, and its getting there game over game. Especially now that Scott realized he needed to allow Russell to handle the ball instead of instructing him to only concentrating on defense.

  • The future is really gold! Randle is amazing, man. I’m saying that for at least a year. His ball handle skills is on another level. He can be better than Blake Griffin (and Blake is already top 3 PF’s in this league).
    Randle got a feel for the game who only the greats has. Man, i’m already a fan of his basketball and his actitude.

    I’m looking for to D’angelo! All i know is he is the smoothest guy i’ve ever seen in college basketball and will figure out how to play in NBA level (HAS TO BE WAY MORE AGRESSIVE AND GET INTO THE PAINT, HE HAS HANDLES TO DO THAT! IS CRAFT ENOUGH!).

    I will watch every game this season for this young kids! I’m waiting for Nance!

    1. If Russell was the smoothest guy you ever saw in college, this must of been your first year watching basketball. No offense, he was good, but anything from the smoothest.

      There’s a reason why it was not an easy decision to take him number 2.

          1. In college yes. Every good player in college seems athletic, and agressive to me…
            D’angelo showed a great pass without efford. He was crafty, he create three pointers. He rebound the ball with poise. His game was like Ginobili in europe, and he was just 18 year old…

          2. Where is that now? It wasn’t in the summer league. It wasn’t in preseason. It hasn’t been so far in the season.

          3. I have a hard time understanding that. Even with Curry having people question him as a starting point guard, he at least showed enough flashes early on to keep others believing.

            Russell hasn’t shown me anything, yet the talk from practice is that he’s the man.

          4. Look for the minor foretelling things, not his overall game.

            Look at his body motion. Look at how quickly he dishes the ball. Look at where hes looking opposed to where he actually passes. It happens so quickly sometimes its hard to notice but he can control the ball very well.

      1. I agree with Lucas. Russell may not be the smoothest, but he has pretty damn smoothe fluidity.

        Anyone that is natural like that can be huge!!!

        It’s a matter of time, and its getting there game over game. Especially now that Scott realized he needed to allow Russell to handle the ball instead of instructing him to only concentrating on defense.

  • His handle is stunning, and his sense for the rebounds surprising, though Hibbert, who’s not an eager rebounder his height notwithstanding, provides a lot of chances for him to crash the glasses on the defensive side.

    1. Agree, and to think people were saying Randle and Hibbert were going to be a terrible idea together. Shaking My Head!

      1. Keep in mind, the front office made that happen. The same front office that many people are blaming now.

        1. True. And although there are questionable moves that were made by the front office recently in my mind, the good decisions far outweigh the questionable ones.

          One of those decisions was to NOT trade Randle in a trade for Cousins and other similar trades.

          And although Cousins is legit, people are being convinced why Randle was favored instead of cousins!

          1. Well see, the thing is that sometimes you have to choose between two great choices. You can always look at what you didn’t choose in regret, but why not be happy when what you did choose turns out great as well.

            That being said, I do reserve the right to change my opinion about Russell if he turns out to be great down the road. However, Okafor was the more ready of the two and it is showing.

          2. I always say my first two choices were Okafor and Towns.

            And OKAFOR IS BEASTING! I knew he was going to! Great footwork is NO accident.

            However I guess I’m in the minority here that thinks Russell is going to ball out! I can see it! Its so obvious to me! Look at his elevation on his shots….high and smooth. He will get it.

          3. Here’s the thing, he may get it. In 2 more years, he may be an all-star if not sooner. He may go on the be one of the top point guards for a 10 year or more stretch. However, what if Okafor also continues to improve and goes on to be an all-star and a top center in the league? I will still say that the Lakers should have taken Okafor.

            What if 20 years from now the Lakers are being talked about like the Portland Trailblazers but for the opposite reason? They chose small over big…what if they chose wrong?

          4. I agree with you.

            Okafor and Randle together….OH MY GOD!

            But theres no way of knowing, coulda, shoulda, woulda.

  • His handle is stunning, and his sense for the rebounds surprising, though Hibbert, who’s not an eager rebounder his height notwithstanding, provides him a lot of chances to crash the glasses on the defensive side.

    1. Agree, and to think people were saying Randle and Hibbert were going to be a terrible idea together. Shaking My Head!

      1. Keep in mind, the front office made that happen. The same front office that many people are blaming now.

        1. True. And although there are questionable moves that were made by the front office recently in my mind, the good decisions far outweigh the questionable ones.

          One of those decisions was to NOT trade Randle in a trade for Cousins and other similar trades.

          And although Cousins is legit, people are being convinced why Randle was favored instead of cousins!

          1. Well see, the thing is that sometimes you have to choose between two great choices. You can always look at what you didn’t choose in regret, but why not be happy when what you did choose turns out great as well.

            That being said, I do reserve the right to change my opinion about Russell if he turns out to be great down the road. However, Okafor was the more ready of the two and it is showing.

          2. I always say my first two choices were Okafor and Towns.

            And OKAFOR IS BEASTING! I knew he was going to! Great footwork is NO accident.

            However I guess I’m in the minority here that thinks Russell is going to ball out! I can see it! Its so obvious to me! Look at his elevation on his shots….high and smooth. He will get it.

          3. Here’s the thing, he may get it. In 2 more years, he may be an all-star if not sooner. He may go on the be one of the top point guards for a 10 year or more stretch. However, what if Okafor also continues to improve and goes on to be an all-star and a top center in the league? I will still say that the Lakers should have taken Okafor.

            What if 20 years from now the Lakers are being talked about like the Portland Trailblazers but for the opposite reason? They chose small over big…what if they chose wrong?

          4. I agree with you.

            Okafor and Randle together….OH MY GOD!

            But theres no way of knowing, coulda, shoulda, woulda.

  • LakerNation its been difficult the first 3 games but Randle needs more minutes. What’s up with this minute cap Byron has in place?

    I don’t think Kelly is working on the second unit. Until Nance comes back we should shorten up the front court rotation to just Hibbert, Bass, and Randle. Why can Randle play 35 – 37 min a game?

      1. That could be true* but if he’s healthy it is not abnormal for the top player to play 35+ minutes.

          1. But he is clearly the top player on our team so I’m not really seeing your point..

          2. Easy, he is a rookie with a recovered foot and leg operation. Health and longevity is more important to the long term prosperity of the team.

            Rookies tend to take more risks, hence the coaches have to restrict their play for their own good.

          3. Let him play 40 minutes and get hurt and then everybody will be blaming Byron Scott.

    1. The funny thing is that if Byron gave him 40 minutes a night, somebody would complain that he is playing too much.

      1. That really bites doesn’t it! SMH. He needs to play more and we need to bolster the D on the second unit. I think Nance will help.

          1. I totally agree. He can shoot a bit too. I think the second unit needs more defensive energy. A guy that will crash the glass.

          2. Yes, and thats why I also would like to see a little more Metta, but some fans here dont want o hear that for whatever reason.

          3. I agree again. The best defense the Lakers played in preseason was with him on the court.

          4. Defense and the bonus is the contagious resurgence of energy that the rest of the players seem to feed off of him when he comes off the bench!

  • LakerNation its been difficult the first 3 games but Randle needs more minutes. What’s up with this minute cap Byron has in place?

    I don’t think Kelly is working on the second unit. Until Nance comes back we should shorten up the front court rotation to just Hibbert, Bass, and Randle. Why can Randle play 35 – 37 min a game?

      1. That could be true* but if he’s healthy it is not abnormal for the top player to play 35+ minutes.

          1. But he is clearly the top player on our team so I’m not really seeing your point..

          2. Easy, he is a rookie with a recovered foot and leg operation. Health and longevity is more important to the long term prosperity of the team.

            Rookies tend to take more risks, hence the coaches have to restrict their play for their own good.

          3. Let him play 40 minutes and get hurt and then everybody will be blaming Byron Scott.

    1. The funny thing is that if Byron gave him 40 minutes a night, somebody would complain that he is playing too much.

      1. That really bites doesn’t it! SMH. He needs to play more and we need to bolster the D on the second unit. I think Nance will help.

          1. I totally agree. He can shoot a bit too. I think the second unit needs more defensive energy. A guy that will crash the glass.

          2. Yes, and thats why I also would like to see a little more Metta, but some fans here dont want o hear that for whatever reason.

          3. I agree again. The best defense the Lakers played in preseason was with him on the court.

          4. Defense and the bonus is the contagious resurgence of energy that the rest of the players seem to feed off of him when he comes off the bench!

          1. Kelly can’t do it anymore. Thats sad. He has talent to me, but has to move of franchise

          2. Kelly is NOT a center, he is being misused in my opinion.

            Also, Kelly has his moments but his lack of coordination holds him back.

            I give Kelly props for his conditioning improvement and a bit more on the defense, but its not enough.

    1. Give me a lineup of Huertas, Clarkson, Williams/Young, Randle and Nance.

      I would like to see what that lineup would do. That looks like a GSW-type lineup.

        1. It would be fun to watch to say the least. One of the faults I have with Byron is that in all of his mixing and matching, he has yet to put a solid cohesive unit on the court for any significant stretch.

          1. Word. Too much experimenting. Stick to the players that are consistent and drop the momentary flashy ones.

          1. Kelly can’t do it anymore. Thats sad. He has talent to me, but has to move of franchise

          2. Kelly is NOT a center, he is being misused in my opinion.

            Also, Kelly has his moments but his lack of coordination holds him back.

            I give Kelly props for his conditioning improvement and a bit more on the defense, but its not enough.

    1. Give me a lineup of Huertas, Clarkson, Williams/Young, Randle and Nance.

      I would like to see what that lineup would do. That looks like a GSW-type lineup.

        1. It would be fun to watch to say the least. One of the faults I have with Byron is that in all of his mixing and matching, he has yet to put a solid cohesive unit on the court for any significant stretch.

          1. Word. Too much experimenting. Stick to the players that are consistent and drop the momentary flashy ones.

  • Yes, Randle has skills. Looks like the kids gonna be a beast.

    The future is bright…but man…the present is hard to stomach.

    1. I don’t mind the development process. Actually really enjoy watching the young guys grow into stars. But old Kobe is tough.

          1. What you guys need is an Ignorant Lakers Fans Nation site of your own.

            You should be the founder and get all the credit.

          2. He has an opposing opinion of Kobe, so because of that he should f*ck off? Really dude? I also see you call out fans for being young, how is that their fault and why would they be less of fans for it?

            Some people…sheesh.

          3. Does the hater fan shoooe fit you?

            If it doesnt fit you, why are you concerned?

            My opinion of his opinion is equally valid by your justification.

          4. Calling anyone names is not the appropriate way of debating about sports. He should go to a different because he thinks Kobe is garbage? Who cares, that’s his opinion. He has as much right to be here as me and you.

          5. Thank you for agreeing with me.

            Like you said I have as much of a right of posting what I think of non Kobe fans as he does on a forum dedicated to the Lakers and their PLAYERS (Kobe)!

  • Yes, Randle has skills. Looks like the kids gonna be a beast.

    The future is bright…but man…the present is hard to stomach.

    1. I don’t mind the development process. Actually really enjoy watching the young guys grow into stars. But old Kobe is tough.

          1. What you guys need is an Ignorant Lakers Fans Nation site of your own.

            You should be the founder and get all the credit.

          2. He has an opposing opinion of Kobe, so because of that he should f*ck off? Really dude? I also see you call out fans for being young, how is that their fault and why would they be less of fans for it?

            Some people…sheesh.

          3. Does the hater fan shoooe fit you?

            If it doesnt fit you, why are you concerned?

            My opinion of his opinion is equally valid by your justification.

          4. Calling anyone names is not the appropriate way of debating about sports. He should go to a different because he thinks Kobe is garbage? Who cares, that’s his opinion. He has as much right to be here as me and you.

          5. Thank you for agreeing with me.

            Like you said I have as much of a right of posting what I think of non Kobe fans as he does on a forum dedicated to the Lakers and their PLAYERS (Kobe)!

      1. i’m sure he’s working on it. if he can play 15-20 mins off the bench and block shots the way he did with the bucks, it would solve some 2nd unit defensive problems

    1. Not opposed the idea. However, I would say that a more bold move right now would be to find a starting small forward.

        1. Hearing Barnes from the Warriors looking for a new contract but Warriors not listening. Could trade for him.

          1. Lakers historically trade in our favor, we arent changing that. we need to get the better of the trade without giving up valuable assets.

          1. Yup theres enough of a possibility to make it probable, especially if they dont make the playoffs again this year.

          2. Well, even if they do, theres still a possibility but maybe a little less probable.

      1. i’m sure he’s working on it. if he can play 15-20 mins off the bench and block shots the way he did with the bucks, it would solve some 2nd unit defensive problems

    1. Not opposed the idea. However, I would say that a more bold move right now would be to find a starting small forward.

        1. Hearing Barnes from the Warriors looking for a new contract but Warriors not listening. Could trade for him.

          1. Lakers historically trade in our favor, we arent changing that. we need to get the better of the trade without giving up valuable assets.

          1. Yup theres enough of a possibility to make it probable, especially if they dont make the playoffs again this year.

          2. Well, even if they do, theres still a possibility but maybe a little less probable.

        1. I don’t saw that. But well. Don’t matter to me. He has showing improve every game. Hope tomorrow he breaks out!

        1. I don’t saw that. But well. Don’t matter to me. He has showing improve every game. Hope tomorrow he breaks out!

  • would anybody welcome the idea of kobe retiring and the lakers trading for terrence ross from the raptors to be the starting 3 and D small forward?

          1. restricted FA? forget about it, you know the lakers never go after restricted free agents

          2. its going to be the same crap all over again. lakers are going to wait on durant and all the other 2nd tier guys like barnes will be gone

    1. I hope people don’t treat me the way you all treat Kobe. A guy gets older and people just want to push him out. Plus, Isn’t Garnett and Duncan older?

        1. Way sad. I love Kobe, man. I almost forget his prime. Like Ronaldinho Gaucho in soccer who suck too much right now

          1. I thought so. Anybody that says that you can barely remember the prime of a guy that led the Lakers to 3 finals appearances in a row from 2008-2010 must be young.

          2. I remember, man. I also remember Ronaldinho win a UEFA Champions League with Barcelona.
            What i’m talking about is: the way he’s playing right now, don’t remember nothing the way he played. U understand? Is not the same player. And that’s sad, man.

            I love Kobe. Is the best player i’ve ever seen. But the way he is playing is too much poor. He don’t deserve that end.

          3. Who says it’s the end? Folks said Duncan was through 5 years ago. What is he doing now?

          4. Well, man. I hope you are right. I love Kobe and if he can play like Kobe, i always pray for him to stay with us for many years.
            BUT for now (and the last season) he is shooting too much bad shots unlike a player of his caliber

          5. Notice how coming out of last season the talk was “will Kobe even be able to lace them up again?” Then the talk was will he stay healthy? Somewhere during these 3 games it has now become…will he play like his old self again? The guy can’t make it over 1 hurdle before 3 more are put in front of him. You come off of 3 years of repeated injuries and then when you finally make it through a training camp you get injured in preseason and miss almost 2 weeks of games. You start the season and show signs of rust and people right away say the rust is old age and he needs to retire.

            Man, yall are tough!

          6. Byron hasnt been playing Kobe properly just like he hasnt been playing Kelly and Bass properly and he has been killing all the players stamina prior to games in his “extreme” workout practices!

          7. Yeah u young im 36 so i remember kobe more than u, u probably dont remember his first few seasons

  • would anybody welcome the idea of kobe retiring and the lakers trading for terrence ross from the raptors to be the starting 3 and D small forward?

          1. restricted FA? forget about it, you know the lakers never go after restricted free agents

          2. its going to be the same crap all over again. lakers are going to wait on durant and all the other 2nd tier guys like barnes will be gone

    1. I hope people don’t treat me the way you all treat Kobe. A guy gets older and people just want to push him out. Plus, Isn’t Garnett and Duncan older?

        1. Way sad. I love Kobe, man. I almost forget his prime. Like Ronaldinho Gaucho in soccer who suck too much right now

          1. I thought so. Anybody that says that you can barely remember the prime of a guy that led the Lakers to 3 finals appearances in a row from 2008-2010 must be young.

          2. I remember, man. I also remember Ronaldinho win a UEFA Champions League with Barcelona.
            What i’m talking about is: the way he’s playing right now, don’t remember nothing the way he played. U understand? Is not the same player. And that’s sad, man.

            I love Kobe. Is the best player i’ve ever seen. But the way he is playing is too much poor. He don’t deserve that end.

          3. Who says it’s the end? Folks said Duncan was through 5 years ago. What is he doing now?

          4. Well, man. I hope you are right. I love Kobe and if he can play like Kobe, i always pray for him to stay with us for many years.
            BUT for now (and the last season) he is shooting too much bad shots unlike a player of his caliber

          5. Notice how coming out of last season the talk was “will Kobe even be able to lace them up again?” Then the talk was will he stay healthy? Somewhere during these 3 games it has now become…will he play like his old self again? The guy can’t make it over 1 hurdle before 3 more are put in front of him. You come off of 3 years of repeated injuries and then when you finally make it through a training camp you get injured in preseason and miss almost 2 weeks of games. You start the season and show signs of rust and people right away say the rust is old age and he needs to retire.

            Man, yall are tough!

          6. Byron hasnt been playing Kobe properly just like he hasnt been playing Kelly and Bass properly and he has been killing all the players stamina prior to games in his “extreme” workout practices!

          7. Yeah u young im 36 so i remember kobe more than u, u probably dont remember his first few seasons

  • I’m going to start some trouble with this comment….

    New Orleans is paying AD $29 mil a year for 5 years and no one has a problem with it? Why? So you pay a guy that hasn’t won anything, but you don’t pay a guy that has?

        1. Teams overpay to keep superstars and even guys who are only role players and they never live up to the contract. Curry makes a lot less than some clowns that never got anywhere near a ring. That proves my point right there.

          1. Curry will get paid. He signed a long term extension before he became a megastar.

          2. Yeah but when you overpay your superstar like that there’s not enough money left to keep the right kind of help around him. 25-29mil is overpaying. Why do you think LeBron accepted 17 mil a yr from Miami?

          3. There is if you keep and develop your own players. You can max every single guy on your team, as long as you have their rights.

          4. I get that. Paying one guy that much always does more harm than good to your team though unless his name is Jordan or Magic who are guaranteed to deliver 5-6 titles

        1. AD has 22 years old, man. Take it easy. At least he will keep them into the mix for the next 10 years is he stick with them

          1. My point is that. Why is it okay to pay a guy before they win, but not pay a guy that has won?

          2. You are talking about Kobe ? Well, to me is ok pay him that much. We will not win something anytime soon…

          3. Exactly, it isn’t his contract I am upset with. It is the fact he is taking away from the development of our young guys.

          4. How is he hurting the development? This idea that development is an instant 1 or 2 year process is crazy. Guys now want players to be superstars over night. What happened to players coming up through the ranks. Rookies didn’t use to get automatic starting jobs. Plus, development is as much about practice as it is the game. Randle was developing all last year when he didn’t play.

          5. 1. He is taking time away that could go to Brown or Nance.
            2. He is taking really bad shots that could be passed to open Randle/Russell/Clarkson.
            3. He is bad and giving a bad example of how to play basketball

          6. He is giving a bad example, wow.

            Randle can you please chime in on how KOBE has been mentoring you for the benefit of these ignorant fool fans!

          7. Man…don’t even bother. That last comment by him just shows that he is not being objective.

          8. Lakers said they really saw a difference in Randle when Metta came to the facility and started working with him. Amazing the difference a good mentor can have.

          9. HAHAHA, youre a fool, purposely ommitting what Randle himself has stated about Kobes mentoring.

            Thanks for the laugh though.

          10. 1. Kobe is playing 26 minutes a game. If you cut him down to 20…that still wouldn’t do what you are suggesting.

            2. For every bad shot he takes, he is taking a good one as well. He is missing shots…not just contested 3-pointers. He is missing bunnies in the lane. Plus, 5 players are averaging double digit shot attempts.

            3. Really?

          11. How does he take away from the youth, HAHAHAHAH.

            We are talking about the same Kobe that has mentored and helped Randle fast forward his rookie game, right. The Hypocrisy!

            The ignorance is so laughable.

        2. They you gave it your best shot and failed. Not like they are going to get MAX FA’s they need to spend that money on.

          1. I used to think Incendy was a real fan but turns out hes like alot of these newer internet lambs that buy into everything they read.

            I have been watching the Lakers a long time and know exactly what kobe is about and what he can do.

            No one has to write to me about what kobe is, I watched him as it happened live!

            And when kobe proves these pessimistic casual fans wrong, those fans will buy into something else the media force feeds them into hating Kobe for.

    1. You pay someone for their future. Not their past, It’s that simple really. With your logic the Lakers should bring Kareem out of retirement and pay him for what he did decades ago

  • I’m going to start some trouble with this comment….

    New Orleans is paying AD $29 mil a year for 5 years and no one has a problem with it? Why? So you pay a guy that hasn’t won anything, but you don’t pay a guy that has?

        1. Teams overpay to keep superstars and even guys who are only role players and they never live up to the contract. Curry makes a lot less than some clowns that never got anywhere near a ring. That proves my point right there.

          1. Curry will get paid. He signed a long term extension before he became a megastar.

          2. Yeah but when you overpay your superstar like that there’s not enough money left to keep the right kind of help around him. 25-29mil is overpaying. Why do you think LeBron accepted 17 mil a yr from Miami?

          3. There is if you keep and develop your own players. You can max every single guy on your team, as long as you have their rights.

          4. I get that. Paying one guy that much always does more harm than good to your team though unless his name is Jordan or Magic who are guaranteed to deliver 5-6 titles

        1. AD has 22 years old, man. Take it easy. At least he will keep them into the mix for the next 10 years is he stick with them

          1. My point is that. Why is it okay to pay a guy before they win, but not pay a guy that has won?

          2. You are talking about Kobe ? Well, to me is ok pay him that much. We will not win something anytime soon…

          3. Exactly, it isn’t his contract I am upset with. It is the fact he is taking away from the development of our young guys.

          4. How is he hurting the development? This idea that development is an instant 1 or 2 year process is crazy. Guys now want players to be superstars over night. What happened to players coming up through the ranks. Rookies didn’t use to get automatic starting jobs. Plus, development is as much about practice as it is the game. Randle was developing all last year when he didn’t play.

          5. 1. He is taking time away that could go to Brown or Nance.
            2. He is taking really bad shots that could be passed to open Randle/Russell/Clarkson.
            3. He is bad and giving a bad example of how to play basketball

          6. He is giving a bad example, wow.

            Randle can you please chime in on how KOBE has been mentoring you for the benefit of these ignorant fool fans!

          7. Man…don’t even bother. That last comment by him just shows that he is not being objective.

          8. Lakers said they really saw a difference in Randle when Metta came to the facility and started working with him. Amazing the difference a good mentor can have.

          9. HAHAHA, youre a fool, purposely ommitting what Randle himself has stated about Kobes mentoring.

            Thanks for the laugh though.

          10. 1. Kobe is playing 26 minutes a game. If you cut him down to 20…that still wouldn’t do what you are suggesting.

            2. For every bad shot he takes, he is taking a good one as well. He is missing shots…not just contested 3-pointers. He is missing bunnies in the lane. Plus, 5 players are averaging double digit shot attempts.

            3. Really?

          11. How does he take away from the youth, HAHAHAHAH.

            We are talking about the same Kobe that has mentored and helped Randle fast forward his rookie game, right. The Hypocrisy!

            The ignorance is so laughable.

        2. They you gave it your best shot and failed. Not like they are going to get MAX FA’s they need to spend that money on.

          1. I used to think Incendy was a real fan but turns out hes like alot of these newer internet lambs that buy into everything they read.

            I have been watching the Lakers a long time and know exactly what kobe is about and what he can do.

            No one has to write to me about what kobe is, I watched him as it happened live!

            And when kobe proves these pessimistic casual fans wrong, those fans will buy into something else the media force feeds them into hating Kobe for.

    1. You pay someone for their future. Not their past, It’s that simple really. With your logic the Lakers should bring Kareem out of retirement and pay him for what he did decades ago

  • What did the Lakers see in Russell in his work it’s that warrant a number two pick. He is slow and not athletic can’t get to the basket and would be fighting to make a nba roster if he wasn’t the number 2 pic.. Dude is Kendall Marshall with more hype

    1. What people see as slow is not slow at all, its a methodical, purposely paced calculation.

      He is purposely pacing the game at that speed. Thats not a hindrance, thats his strategy. It will come together soon enough.

      1. No it’s slow. It wouldn’t be slow but methodical if he speed up the game on occassion that is a sign of a pg coming into his own. Unfortunately, he’s yet to speed things up and it appears that he is just unable to.

        1. You do realize that up until recently Russell was specifically instructed by Russell NOT to handle the ball and concentrate only on defense and that made his game awkward right?

          Can you see his improvement last game, tempo wise?

          1. I saw the Mavs go under screens giving Russell a lot of open shots which he converted at a rate of 30%. The defense isn’t even trying to guard him and he still can’t shoot a decent %.

          2. Its coming together.

            Its all a matter of your expectations time-wise, but it will happen.

          3. Being able to hit an open shot should be the bare minimum for an offensive player starting on an NBA team.

          4. Did his shots improve last game? I think so.

            He made a few more from perimeter than before.

            We know he has a good offensive, remember his offensive in the last SL game? He shot very well. Hopefully it translates soon to regular nba.

    2. I won’t go that far. I will say that it was stated before the draft that Russell had the bigger upside, but Okafor was NBA ready.

      It use to be that you take the NBA ready player over the upside player. I guess things have changed.

    3. It’s the half court sets. He’s too bottled up. He’s only gonna take off in a more wide open running attack. Half court set nonsense is doomed to fail. Our best floor spacers are in the 2nd unit(Lou, Swaggy)

      1. It’s the age old question. Do you build the roster around the coach, or select a coach that fits your roster?

        I believe that Russell doesn’t fit our roster, nor does he fit the coach. You have 4 players in the starting lineup that are all at their best with the ball in their hands. You wonder why each have spurts of looking bad, it’s because that when they are subjected to anything other than their strong suit, they are uncomfortable. Not to mention, only one of the 4 is an experienced player (Kobe).

        To a lesser degree, the Lakers are dealing with the same issues that Miami had to deal with when they brought in Lebron and Bosh to play with Wade. Ball dominant players need the ball.

    4. did you watch him play in HS or at ohio st? his drives to the basket are a thing of beauty. did you ever watch him get hot and hit a few shots in a row? did you get to see how he could facilitate or take over the game scoring??? he is nowhere near a finished product, mentally and physically he’s not ready to do these things in the nba. when the lakers drafted him it was for the future not today, his time will come.

      1. No offense man, many people keep saying it, but when will it translate to the basketball court?

        Normally, the problem with a highly talented but really young rookie is that they do too much. Russell isn’t doing enough! I would take it better if he was trying to do too much and being pulled back.

      2. No I didn’t watch him in high school but yes in college key word being college. He hasn’t got to the basket yet. Players are quicker then him and more athletic that’s why je is having a hard time. He is a floor General but only on the fast break not in the half court. Huretas looks better right now

    5. To be fair, Kendall Marshall had no outside shot in college. He was a lottery pick for his vision alone. Russell was one of the better shooters in college and especially when it mattered.
      The skill is there, but athletically he is, as you say, not ready. You can’t fix athleticism completely but he will get stronger and quicker and also figure out how to use his skills to counter the athletic disadvantage.

  • What did the Lakers see in Russell in his work it’s that warrant a number two pick. He is slow and not athletic can’t get to the basket and would be fighting to make a nba roster if he wasn’t the number 2 pic.. Dude is Kendall Marshall with more hype

    1. What people see as slow is not slow at all, its a methodical, purposely paced calculation.

      He is purposely pacing the game at that speed. Thats not a hindrance, thats his strategy. It will come together soon enough.

      1. No it’s slow. It wouldn’t be slow but methodical if he speed up the game on occassion that is a sign of a pg coming into his own. Unfortunately, he’s yet to speed things up and it appears that he is just unable to.

        1. You do realize that up until recently Russell was specifically instructed by Russell NOT to handle the ball and concentrate only on defense and that made his game awkward right?

          Can you see his improvement last game, tempo wise?

          1. I saw the Mavs go under screens giving Russell a lot of open shots which he converted at a rate of 30%. The defense isn’t even trying to guard him and he still can’t shoot a decent %.

          2. Its coming together.

            Its all a matter of your expectations time-wise, but it will happen.

          3. Being able to hit an open shot should be the bare minimum for an offensive player starting on an NBA team.

          4. Did his shots improve last game? I think so.

            He made a few more from perimeter than before.

            We know he has a good offensive, remember his offensive in the last SL game? He shot very well. Hopefully it translates soon to regular nba.

    2. I won’t go that far. I will say that it was stated before the draft that Russell had the bigger upside, but Okafor was NBA ready.

      It use to be that you take the NBA ready player over the upside player. I guess things have changed.

    3. It’s the half court sets. He’s too bottled up. He’s only gonna take off in a more wide open running attack. Half court set nonsense is doomed to fail with no Shaq or Gasol or Bynum to throw it to down low. Our best floor spacers are in the 2nd unit(Lou, Swaggy)

      1. It’s the age old question. Do you build the roster around the coach, or select a coach that fits your roster?

        I believe that Russell doesn’t fit our roster, nor does he fit the coach. You have 4 players in the starting lineup that are all at their best with the ball in their hands. You wonder why each have spurts of looking bad, it’s because that when they are subjected to anything other than their strong suit, they are uncomfortable. Not to mention, only one of the 4 is an experienced player (Kobe).

        To a lesser degree, the Lakers are dealing with the same issues that Miami had to deal with when they brought in Lebron and Bosh to play with Wade. Ball dominant players need the ball.

    4. did you watch him play in HS or at ohio st? his drives to the basket are a thing of beauty. did you ever watch him get hot and hit a few shots in a row? did you get to see how he could facilitate or take over the game scoring??? he is nowhere near a finished product, mentally and physically he’s not ready to do these things in the nba. when the lakers drafted him it was for the future not today, his time will come.

      1. No offense man, many people keep saying it, but when will it translate to the basketball court?

        Normally, the problem with a highly talented but really young rookie is that they do too much. Russell isn’t doing enough! I would take it better if he was trying to do too much and being pulled back.

      2. No I didn’t watch him in high school but yes in college key word being college. He hasn’t got to the basket yet. Players are quicker then him and more athletic that’s why je is having a hard time. He is a floor General but only on the fast break not in the half court. Huretas looks better right now

    5. To be fair, Kendall Marshall had no outside shot in college. He was a lottery pick for his vision alone. Russell was one of the better shooters in college and especially when it mattered.
      The skill is there, but athletically he is, as you say, not ready. You can’t fix athleticism completely but he will get stronger and quicker and also figure out how to use his skills to counter the athletic disadvantage.

  • Didn’t everybody say that Gasol was still a great player but D’Antoni wasn’t using him correctly? If that was true, is it not possible that Byron is doing the same to a few of the players now?

    1. Pau was still playing great even when he was being mis-used. His numbers weren’t much different than usual. Although he had a lot of medical issues with Vertigo etc.

      1. Don’t be a revisionist history person. Regardless of the stats everybody…including Magic Johnson, was killing D’Antoni in the media because he had Pau shooting mid-range and 3 point shots. Have you noticed….AD is now being asked the do the same in New Orleans. LOL

          1. Whats up with your infatuation with Kobe, lol.

            Its a thin line between love and hate, lol

          2. They were hard on D’Antoni because of defense, which has only gotten worse since he resigned

  • Didn’t everybody say that Gasol was still a great player but D’Antoni wasn’t using him correctly? If that was true, is it not possible that Byron is doing the same to a few of the players now?

    1. Pau was still playing great even when he was being mis-used. His numbers weren’t much different than usual. Although he had a lot of medical issues with Vertigo etc.

      1. Don’t be a revisionist history person. Regardless of the stats everybody…including Magic Johnson, was killing D’Antoni in the media because he had Pau shooting mid-range and 3 point shots. Have you noticed….AD is now being asked the do the same in New Orleans. LOL

          1. Whats up with your infatuation with Kobe, lol.

            Its a thin line between love and hate, lol

          2. They were hard on D’Antoni because of defense, which has only gotten worse since he resigned

  • D League is for “Developmental” players – so they can work on body; work on paced calculation so not so slow

    Developmental Players, are not suppose to win against real NBA Players

    Kobe, five rings for LAL, is tasked with playing on floor with our Developmental Team – 1st Yr Rookie; 2nd Yr Rookie; and another 2nd Yr Rookie

    Our Veterans will play, after Developmental Players, are Way Behind by at least 20 points or more – Current Byron Strategy

    Not making too many fans happy, by LA Developmental Players Vs Real NBA Team

    Byron wants us to Believe, in his Coaching ways. “I for one Believe, in One Day Pie-in-the-Sky” theology, that LAL will be good . . . Not !!

    Its called D League, guys

      1. Cool. Now we have to remember not to complain over losing games when they make mistakes or dont make their shots since we are ok with giving to rooks more time.

          1. Exactly. Glad you admit that you dont complain about them but are sure to single out the blame on Kobe

          2. Blame? I said disappointed. I think everyone is. No one can be happy with his FG %, number of 3’s taken, or system play. Even Kobe is disappointed so me and him are on the same page buddy

          3. OH Im sorry youre “disappointed” by Kobe not making his shots coming off of nine months absence and 20 seasons but you are NOT “disappointed” when the younger and healthier players dont make their shots.

            Wow, great logic, lol. Ridiculous.

          4. I expect a five time champion, one of the GOATs to shoot better than 30% (5-17 PG), 20% from 3 (2-10 PG), and to have only 5 assists total through 3 games. Sorry if my resect for Kobe sets “high” standards. Then I give a break to Russell playing in his first three NBA games at the age of 19 shooting 36%/27%. Funny how I said months ago Kobe would be rusty and average 18 ppg while people like you said “23 ppg, no rust he’s been RESTING”.

          5. Funny how people like you ALWAYS have something negative to say about Kobe and people like me ALWAYS look for the positives in our TEAM not just focus on a single player.

            Also funny how your memory conveniently works to your advantage and you bring up his accolades when it benefits you but you get amnesia when you argue other people about why Kobe is not a GOAT.

            HAHAHA, talk about funny.

          6. “you argue other people about why Kobe is not a GOAT.”—-has never happened he’s always been at least top 7 for me but nice try. I’m just stating stats you tell me if those are positive or negative. If you say those are bad #’s than we agree.

          7. For a person that holds Kobe in their top 7 you certainly have had us all fooled all this time on this forum. LOL.

            I like how you constantly “just state stats” negatively against Kobe in your posts. Great job from a supposed Kobe supporter. HAHAHAHAHA!

            Youre a terrible salesman, and I’m not into buying bridges anyway, trolls are!

          8. Laker supporter first Kobe second. Lakers 0-3, Kobe’s numbers look bad, Kobe himself said “he is playing like the 200th best player in the NBA”. I don’t think me nor kobe are kobe haters

          9. You have to have wit to understand sarcasm.

            Kobe was sarcastically referring to his hater critics recent ratings. He was not happy with his performance and used that unfounded negative ratings to reflect his discontent with himself.

            A person has to be pretty unintelligent to believe that Kobe was literally ranking himself at that level.

      2. Here is the fallacy about what developing young players. There is such a thing as bad minutes. Do you remember Lebron saying last year that he had to help teach Kyrie and others new habits? Kyrie had loads of playing time on a losing team. In essence, he had a lot of bad habits.

        1. I think Kyrie is a bad example since he is an excellent player. Sure he has some bad habits. He’s young and still doesn’t have the EXPIERENCE Lebron has playing with other stars.

          1. If Russell does not have Kyrie Irving potential it makes no sense that the Lakers took him at 2. So, this example SHOULD apply. If it doesn’t, why was he drafted so high?

          2. I don’t know what you are arguing. DLO should go to the D-League? BUT, Kyrie is an excellent player who played heavy NBA minutes under Scott. I want DLO = Kyrie. So I want him to play heavy NBA minutes

          3. I’m arguing that it isn’t a good idea to play rookies heavy minutes on a bad team. They get bad habits while losing. You need veterans mixed in. The Lakers have gone from being a veteran team to being a very young inexperienced team. Outside of Kobe and Hibbert (and Artest), the Lakers have no players with significant playoff experience.

            That’s what I’m saying…

          4. But you brought up Kyrie. A player who played heavy minutes under scott and now is a great player. But we shouldn’t do that? I still think kyrie’s habits were because he had never played with high quality players. More system habits than skill habits…easy to fix

          5. You missed the point of me bringing up Kyrie. I said that Kyrie developed bad habits while getting a ton of playing time for a very bad team. I am suggesting that if you can decrease the playing time and use some veterans to offset the youth, it may minimize those bad habits from developing.

            What about that don’t you understand?

          6. I’m saying those minutes helped Kyrie become who he is today. Yes, a few bad habits (which all young players have). But OVERALL an excellent player was created through heavy minutes. Those habits are small compared to the player he has become.

          7. The minutes didn’t do it. Practice is where players develop, not during games.

          8. well this is the point where we won’t really know for sure which did it. Unless we are him we don’t know if it was practice, the minutes, or both. I’m just looking at A+B=C. The minutes and result. Heavy minutes and he became an overall great player. Nice talkn to ya

          9. Because we’re getting ben simmons, it’s clearly a tank Byron Scott doing. It’s a bait n switch deal with the sixers and Lakers against the nba swap picks deal

      3. No . . . No. Thats not legit.

        0 – 3. Soon to be 0 -9; then 0 -20 with “Developmental” players (Again, that is what our LA Defenders D League is for – to develop players)

        If decided, not making playoffs, will be worse then 21 wins – then Do Not Play the NBA games !!

        Change name to LA Defenders, our develop league

        Real NBA Teams vs LA Development Team IS resulting in another season without playoffs

        1. Who are you sending to the D-League? Randle (our best player right now), first team all-rookie Clarkson, #2 pick Russ? What’s wrong with these guys getting minutes? I don’t see your argument that playing these guys makes us worse. All the vets are playing (Williams, Hibbert, Bass, Young, Kobe) and young guys aren’t playing (Nance and Brown). Who are the D-League quality players we are playing? My argument for Russ is we took at #2. We did. So you cant say it was a mistake three games into the season. He will have growin pains

          1. Developmental D-League is for All their growin pains . . .

            Russell is showing the best candidate thus far – Too slow, Too Weak, I heard “gonna take time”, Not Physically ready. Turn over, after turn over; can’t run an offense; LAL already has six Guards.

            If want Win, start: Kobe – Lou/Huertas – Nick Y – Bass – Hibbert, bring “Developmental guys – JR and JC off bench. Again, IF want Win

          2. Bass hasn’t been playing to great. Clarkson is way better than Huertas. Randle is the best on the team thus far (kobe and Dirk agree). Williams is still playing heavy Minutes. Young is still playing Minutes. Sounds like you are still playing the same players just different rotations. So why were you crying earlier that we are playing the wrong players and we should be called the defenders….if you are still playing players that are already seeing the court.

          3. 0-3 Start, and by keeping same rotations of starting D League VS veterans – LAL will be 0-20

  • D League is for “Developmental” players – so they can work on body; work on paced calculation so not so slow

    Developmental Players, are not suppose to win against real NBA Players

    Kobe, five rings for LAL, is tasked with playing on floor with our Developmental Team – 1st Yr Rookie; 2nd Yr Rookie; and another 2nd Yr Rookie

    Our Veterans will play, after Developmental Players, are Way Behind by at least 20 points or more – Current Byron Strategy

    Not making too many fans happy, by LA Developmental Players Vs Real NBA Team

    Byron wants us to Believe, in his Coaching ways. “I for one Believe, in One Day Pie-in-the-Sky” theology, that LAL will be good . . . Not !!

    Its called D League, guys

      1. Cool. Now we have to remember not to complain over losing games when they make mistakes or dont make their shots since we are ok with giving to rooks more time.

          1. Exactly. Glad you admit that you dont complain about them but are sure to single out the blame on Kobe for a TEAM loss.

          2. Blame? I said disappointed. I think everyone is. No one can be happy with his FG %, number of 3’s taken, or system play. Even Kobe is disappointed so me and him are on the same page buddy

          3. OH Im sorry youre “disappointed” by Kobe not making his shots coming off of nine months absence and 20 seasons but you are NOT “disappointed” when the younger and healthier players dont make their shots.

            Wow, great logic, lol. Ridiculous.

          4. I expect a five time champion, one of the GOATs to shoot better than 30% (5-17 PG), 20% from 3 (2-10 PG), and to have only 5 assists total through 3 games. Sorry if my resect for Kobe sets “high” standards. Then I give a break to Russell playing in his first three NBA games at the age of 19 shooting 36%/27%. Funny how I said months ago Kobe would be rusty and average 18 ppg while people like you said “23 ppg, no rust he’s been RESTING”.

          5. Funny how people like you ALWAYS have something negative to say about Kobe and people like me ALWAYS look for the positives in our TEAM not just focus on a single player.

            Also funny how your memory conveniently works to your advantage and you bring up his accolades when it benefits you but you get amnesia when you argue other people about why Kobe is not a GOAT.

            HAHAHA, talk about funny.

          6. “you argue other people about why Kobe is not a GOAT.”—-has never happened he’s always been at least top 7 for me but nice try. I’m just stating stats you tell me if those are positive or negative. If you say those are bad #’s than we agree.

          7. For a person that holds Kobe in their top 7 you certainly have had us all fooled all this time on this forum. LOL.

            I like how you constantly “just state stats” negatively against Kobe in your posts. Great job from a supposed Kobe supporter. HAHAHAHAHA!

            Youre a terrible salesman, and I’m not into buying bridges anyway, trolls are!

          8. Laker supporter first Kobe second. Lakers 0-3, Kobe’s numbers look bad, Kobe himself said “he is playing like the 200th best player in the NBA”. I don’t think me nor kobe are kobe haters

          9. You have to have wit to understand sarcasm.

            Kobe was sarcastically referring to his hater critics recent ratings. He was not happy with his performance and used that unfounded negative ratings to reflect his discontent with himself.

            A person has to be pretty unintelligent to believe that Kobe was literally ranking himself at that level.

          10. He was saying based off his play this season he is reallllly low. It was somewhat of a hyperbole but he/I are disappointed with himself/him. Don’t know why you are arguing this

      2. Here is the fallacy about what developing young players. There is such a thing as bad minutes. Do you remember Lebron saying last year that he had to help teach Kyrie and others new habits? Kyrie had loads of playing time on a losing team. In essence, he had a lot of bad habits.

        1. I think Kyrie is a bad example (for your argument) since he is an excellent player. Sure he has some bad habits. He’s young and still doesn’t have the EXPIERENCE Lebron has playing with other stars.

          1. If Russell does not have Kyrie Irving potential it makes no sense that the Lakers took him at 2. So, this example SHOULD apply. If it doesn’t, why was he drafted so high?

          2. I don’t know what you are arguing. DLO should go to the D-League? BUT, Kyrie is an excellent player who played heavy NBA minutes under Scott. I want DLO = Kyrie. So I want him to play heavy NBA minutes

          3. I’m arguing that it isn’t a good idea to play rookies heavy minutes on a bad team. They get bad habits while losing. You need veterans mixed in. The Lakers have gone from being a veteran team to being a very young inexperienced team. Outside of Kobe and Hibbert (and Artest), the Lakers have no players with significant playoff experience.

            That’s what I’m saying…

          4. But you brought up Kyrie. A player who played heavy minutes under scott and now is a great player. But we shouldn’t do that? I still think kyrie’s habits were because he had never played with high quality players. More system habits than skill habits…easy to fix

          5. You missed the point of me bringing up Kyrie. I said that Kyrie developed bad habits while getting a ton of playing time for a very bad team. I am suggesting that if you can decrease the playing time and use some veterans to offset the youth, it may minimize those bad habits from developing.

            What about that don’t you understand?

          6. I’m saying those minutes helped Kyrie become who he is today. Yes, a few bad habits (which all young players have). But OVERALL an excellent player was created through heavy minutes. Those habits are small compared to the player he has become.

          7. The minutes didn’t do it. Practice is where players develop, not during games.

          8. well this is the point where we won’t really know for sure which did it. Unless we are him we don’t know if it was practice, the minutes, or both. I’m just looking at A+B=C. The minutes and result. Heavy minutes and he became an overall great player. Nice talkn to ya

          9. Because we’re getting ben simmons, it’s clearly a tank Byron Scott doing. It’s a bait n switch deal with the sixers and Lakers against the nba swap picks deal

      3. No . . . No. Thats not legit.

        0 – 3. Soon to be 0 -9; then 0 -20 with “Developmental” players (Again, that is what our LA Defenders D League is for – to develop players)

        If decided, not making playoffs, will be worse then 21 wins – then Do Not Play the NBA games !!

        Change name to LA Defenders, our develop league

        Real NBA Teams vs LA Development Team IS resulting in another season without playoffs

        1. Who are you sending to the D-League? Randle (our best player right now), first team all-rookie Clarkson, #2 pick Russ? What’s wrong with these guys getting minutes? I don’t see your argument that playing these guys makes us worse. All the vets are playing (Williams, Hibbert, Bass, Young, Kobe) and young guys aren’t playing (Nance and Brown). Who are the D-League quality players we are playing? My argument for Russ is we took at #2. We did. So you cant say it was a mistake three games into the season. He will have growin pains

          1. Developmental D-League is for All their growin pains . . .

            Russell is showing the best candidate thus far – Too slow, Too Weak, I heard “gonna take time”, Not Physically ready. Turn over, after turn over; can’t run an offense; LAL already has six Guards.

            If want Win, start: Kobe – Lou/Huertas – Nick Y – Bass – Hibbert, bring “Developmental guys – JR and JC off bench. Again, IF want Win

          2. Bass hasn’t been playing to great. Clarkson is way better than Huertas. Randle is the best on the team thus far (kobe and Dirk agree). Williams is still playing heavy Minutes. Young is still playing Minutes. Sounds like you are still playing the same players just different rotations. So why were you crying earlier that we are playing the wrong players and we should be called the defenders….if you are still playing players that are already seeing the court.

          3. 0-3 Start, and by keeping same rotations of starting D League VS veterans – LAL will be 0-20

  • Randle I would start at small forward and put Kobe back at his normal two guard position and bass and Roy along with Clarkson. Russell should be brought along with the bench players of lou swaggy Kelly and black. They are soft and thus would change the way the team comes out in the first quarters. You can get away with playing small ball for stretch mins with the unit. The problem is the coaching playing these group of players in this Princeton offense. Were it puts every body on the perimter having streaks shooters jacking up a bunch of threes. With the big men being used for ball screens.

    1. Funny, I said that during the summer. However, I was wrong. Randle is not able to play the 3 position. You have 4’s and 5’s shooting 3’s and you want our 4 that can’t shoot the 3 to be a small forward? A recipe for disaster.

      He needs to stay where he is. At this point, the wise move would be to bring in A Brown and move Kobe to the 2.

      1. I say that because he is truly a face up player. And if your going to develop him it should be at that positron.. That’s why he is working with James worthy.. Who played small forward also being 6.9. Also because it would give the first team some toughness

        1. When James Worthy played, the game was all about the paint. Now the game is all about the perimeter.

          There was talk of Phil putting Lamar at the SF position back when he was here. He thought against that for the same reason I am against this. Randle needs to be a workhorse in the paint.

          1. However, Phil’s version of the SF is vastly different than everyone else. Phil wanted LO to be Pippen. Different responsibilities. LO had some similar skillsets but the mental aptitude wasn’t there. Randle can handle the SF in the same usage as Carmelo. Randle just needs an outside shot to complement his bully ball like melo.

          2. Melo is an elite shooter. Randle should develop a jump shot but elite? No way.

            A better version of MWP.

          3. no mention of elite shooting anywhere in my text, though. Usage. Melo wasn’t much of a deep outside threat early in his career but used it to compliment his 20+ ppg. Melo elite scorer, but not elite shooter.

  • Randle I would start at small forward and put Kobe back at his normal two guard position and bass and Roy along with Clarkson. Russell should be brought along with the bench players of lou swaggy Kelly and black. They are soft and thus would change the way the team comes out in the first quarters. You can get away with playing small ball for stretch mins with the unit. The problem is the coaching playing these group of players in this Princeton offense. Were it puts every body on the perimter having streaks shooters jacking up a bunch of threes. With the big men being used for ball screens.

    1. Funny, I said that during the summer. However, I was wrong. Randle is not able to play the 3 position. You have 4’s and 5’s shooting 3’s and you want our 4 that can’t shoot the 3 to be a small forward? A recipe for disaster.

      He needs to stay where he is. At this point, the wise move would be to bring in A Brown and move Kobe to the 2.

      1. I say that because he is truly a face up player. And if your going to develop him it should be at that positron.. That’s why he is working with James worthy.. Who played small forward also being 6.9. Also because it would give the first team some toughness

        1. When James Worthy played, the game was all about the paint. Now the game is all about the perimeter.

          There was talk of Phil putting Lamar at the SF position back when he was here. He thought against that for the same reason I am against this. Randle needs to be a workhorse in the paint.

          1. However, Phil’s version of the SF is vastly different than everyone else. Phil wanted LO to be Pippen. Different responsibilities. LO had some similar skillsets but the mental aptitude wasn’t there. Randle can handle the SF in the same usage as Carmelo. Randle just needs an outside shot to complement his bully ball like melo.

          2. Melo is an elite shooter. Randle should develop a jump shot but elite? No way.

            A better version of MWP.

          3. no mention of elite shooting anywhere in my text, though. Usage. Melo wasn’t much of a deep outside threat early in his career but used it to compliment his 20+ ppg. Melo elite scorer, but not elite shooter.

  • I expect Westbrook and Durant to both re-sign with the Thunder, and try to win together. So Randle kinda HAS TO BE “The dude” that the Lakers build around for the next decade or so.

    1. We need to respect and appreciate rebuilding through the draft as then CBA has made it almost impossible to jump start a franchise via FA n trades.We’ll likely need one more high pick or Russell to basically turn into Stephesque and Randle+Clarckson prove a steal before real star carliber players look our way again. So we still talking years. 1990’s

  • I expect Westbrook and Durant to both re-sign with the Thunder, and try to win together. So Randle kinda HAS TO BE “The dude” that the Lakers build around for the next decade or so.

    1. We need to respect and appreciate rebuilding through the draft as then CBA has made it almost impossible to jump start a franchise via FA n trades.We’ll likely need one more high pick or Russell to basically turn into Stephesque and Randle+Clarckson prove a steal before real star carliber players look our way again. So we still talking years. 1990’s

  • Randle is gonna be a beast but folks need to calm down. He’s very inefficient still. 41% FG & 56% FT. Love his upside but those numbers must improve. Hibbert also. When we get 50+% FG from our front court, wins will start churning out.

    1. Come on Daryl!

      Randle has 2 Double Doubles in the firt 3 games of the season!

      What about those numbers? You dont find that impressive?

        1. Randle….

          Once again, we don’t know if Towns will be great. We already see enough from Randle to know that he will.

          1. The fact that you say that, shows how you view development. I guarantee you that if you talk to Blake Griffin, he will tell you that he learned a lot his rookie season while he was injured. Randle will probably say the same now.

          2. “We already see enough from Randle to know that he will.” You said we “see” from randle to ‘KNOW”. So I thought were talking about games since that is the stage for fans to see. And I wouldn’t use the word “know” based off that he learned while he was injured.

          3. You have totally taken my statements out of context. The “know” statement had to do with potential and reality. The development over last season had to do with explaining that development is not just about game time. Those were two separate points I was making…unrelated.

          4. WOW

            We don’t know if KAT will be great but have already seen enough from Randle?!?

            Correct me if I’m wrong, but haven’t they both o nnaccurate lying played three full regular season NBA games? 0_0

          5. I think anyone in their right mind would take Towns over Randle. Is this a real question?