Kobe Bryant Wants To Be Remembered As A ‘Talented Overachiever’
Kobe Bryant Wants To Be Remembered As A ‘talented Overachiever’
Gregory J. Fisher-USA TODAY Sports

Kobe Bryant’s career in the NBA is coming to an end. Bryant may be playing in his final season with the Los Angeles Lakers and potentially played his last game at Madison Square Garden on Sunday against the New York Knicks.

Following the loss to the Knicks, Bryant was asked about his legacy and how he’d like to be remembered once he finally walks away from the game. Kobe answered with three words, via Shahan Ahmed of NBC Los Angeles.

It remains to be seen whether Bryant will call it a career at the end of the 2015-16 NBA season. Kobe will be an unrestricted free agent come July 1, but has yet to indicate whether he’ll pursue another short-term contract with the Lakers or announce his retirement.

If it truly is Bryant’s final season with the Lakers, the five-time NBA champion will go down as one of the greatest players to ever play the game. Kobe’s legacy will be up there with the likes of other Lakers greats like Magic Johnson and Kareem Abdul-Jabbar.

It will be only a matter of time before his retired jersey is hanging in the rafters at the Staples Center along with a bronze statue sitting outside to greet the Lakers faithful.

Bryant and company will continue the team’s road trip on Tuesday with the Lakers set to face Dwyane Wade’s Miami Heat in South Beach. Los Angeles will be hoping to get their second win of the season before playing a back-to-back against the Orlando Magic on Wednesday.

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    1. Everything about Kobe’s game is out of synch AT THE MOMENT, a pain to watch, agreed! However, let’s not forget he had injuries one after another and been sidelined for more than two years.

      I’d give him the benefit of the doubt until about a third/middle of the season to polish up/regain his game. I still believe he can be a highly efficient player…. though not as highly dominant as he once was.

      1. He should practice on his off time not during the game- and he has the same % shots 30==20/25, there is not excuses for it.

        1. Have you ever thought that YOU are being selfish?

          The entire basketball world wants to watch Kobe one last time, doesn’t really care what he does, and yet, there is always one guy who has to be different….

          You’re watching the last moments of a 20 year veteran and one of the greats, and all you want to focus on is his stats and how he is (or isn’t) improving a lottery bound team.

      2. Like I posted, I think that he was doing fine until his ego took over in the third and he started to take a series of bad shots.

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    2. Some one is taking all the fun out of watching, I came to see a re build not CIRCUS shots and AIR BALLS, And seeing laughing about it. We could have won that game.

      1. We could have but the Lakers blew it, not Kobe. Funny how randle starts the downfall but you still find a way to blame kobe, get over it it’s not him.

        1. Randle is a 20 year old rookie. Kobe is the team leader as a 20 year vet. You tell me who’s should be more responsible?

        2. ?!? What has that got to do with the context of the convo? Kobe is the elder statesman/team leader, period.

        3. He’s still Human and if he wasn’t so rusty and was knocking shots down you wouldn’t be saying anything. Be patient, if we hit near half way through the season and there’s no change then maybe it is the beginning of the end for him.

        4. We saw the same for 35 games last season. Anyone who’s thinking clearly can see where this is going.

        5. your a real moron if you cant see hes not the team leader. he has said hes letting the kids run the show. the coach has said the kids are running the show.

          so unless both are liying the kids are the team leaders not kobe

        6. You’re a complete idiot for even suggesting Kobe is not the team leader. Who do you see on the sidelines giving instructions? If you don’t knock it off!

        7. There’s a new article where Kobe is speaking directly on his leadership on the court. Knock it off mayne.

        8. the leaders of this team are then young players its them the decied if we win or lose not kobe

        9. I think you should be more responsible and stop pointing fingers and use your head, Kobe pretty much hasn’t played in 2 years and hasn’t been able to shoot for the last year. You think he’s going to just be Jordan Eske after that? Wait 30 or so games into the season and see if the dust comes off, stop expecting magic to happen he’s human.

        10. I’m not the one expecting magic to happen. Could Kobe improve some? Yes but you’re fooling yourself if you think we’ll see better than the 35 games he played last year. The is more than rust. Father time is beyond knocking.

        11. Whos most responsible you ask…..Byron.

          And if you dont know, now you know.

      2. Speak for yourself…..If this is Kobe last year…I much rather Watch him….People’s aren’t showing up to Lakers games to watch the Lakers rebuilding program….It’s because of Kobe…..The national televised games are because of Kobe….Until the Lakers get a Box Office attraction after Kobe leaves……Expect less not more televised games.

      3. I will have to agree. He took the whole team out of the game with his poor shot selection in the third and fourth quarter.

  • Kobe just warming up this Season – G.O.A.T.

    Stay Healthy – Proven a Vital Element to the Success of this 2015-2016 Season

      1. Everything about Kobe’s game is out of synch AT THE MOMENT, a pain to watch, agreed! However, let’s not forget he had injuries one after another and been sidelined for more than two years.

        I’d give him the benefit of the doubt until about a third/middle of the season to polish up/regain his game. I still believe he can be a highly efficient player…. though not as highly dominant as he once was.

        1. He should practice on his off time not during the game- and he has the same % shots 30==20/25, there is not excuses for it.

          1. lol you just lost all credibility. If anything he is practicing too much.

          2. Have you ever thought that YOU are being selfish?

            The entire basketball world wants to watch Kobe one last time, doesn’t really care what he does, and yet, there is always one guy who has to be different….

            You’re watching the last moments of a 20 year veteran and one of the greats, and all you want to focus on is his stats and how he is (or isn’t) improving a lottery bound team.

        2. Like I posted, I think that he was doing fine until his ego took over in the third and he started to take a series of bad shots.

      2. Some one is taking all the fun out of watching, I came to see a re build not CIRCUS shots and AIR BALLS, And seeing laughing about it. We could have won that game.

        1. We could have but the Lakers blew it, not Kobe. Funny how randle starts the downfall but you still find a way to blame kobe, get over it it’s not him.

          1. Randle is a 20 year old rookie. Kobe is the team leader as a 20 year vet. You tell me who’s should be more responsible?

          2. ?!? What has that got to do with the context of the convo? Kobe is the elder statesman/team leader, period.

          3. He’s still Human and if he wasn’t so rusty and was knocking shots down you wouldn’t be saying anything. Be patient, if we hit near half way through the season and there’s no change then maybe it is the beginning of the end for him.

          4. We saw the same for 35 games last season. Anyone who’s thinking clearly can see where this is going.

          5. your a real moron if you cant see hes not the team leader. he has said hes letting the kids run the show. the coach has said the kids are running the show.

            so unless both are liying the kids are the team leaders not kobe

          6. You’re a complete idiot for even suggesting Kobe is not the team leader. Who do you see on the sidelines giving instructions? If you don’t knock it off!

          7. There’s a new article where Kobe is speaking directly on his leadership on the court. Knock it off mayne.

          8. the leaders of this team are then young players its them the decied if we win or lose not kobe

          9. I think you should be more responsible and stop pointing fingers and use your head, Kobe pretty much hasn’t played in 2 years and hasn’t been able to shoot for the last year. You think he’s going to just be Jordan Eske after that? Wait 30 or so games into the season and see if the dust comes off, stop expecting magic to happen he’s human.

          10. I’m not the one expecting magic to happen. Could Kobe improve some? Yes but you’re fooling yourself if you think we’ll see better than the 35 games he played last year. The is more than rust. Father time is beyond knocking.

          11. Whos most responsible you ask…..Byron.

            And if you dont know, now you know.

        2. Speak for yourself…..If this is Kobe last year…I much rather Watch him….People’s aren’t showing up to Lakers games to watch the Lakers rebuilding program….It’s because of Kobe…..The national televised games are because of Kobe….Until the Lakers get a Box Office attraction after Kobe leaves……Expect less not more televised games.

        3. I will have to agree. He took the whole team out of the game with his poor shot selection in the third and fourth quarter.

  • Maybe if he retired after hitting those 2 free throws after blowing out his Achilles. But no. He’s stayed well beyond his expiration date.

        1. I thought he said he’d hang it up if he couldn’t play up to his standards. So what exactly are “his” standards?

          1. I don’t know how he keeps showing up at practice the next day after throwing up as many bricks as he does. I was never a Dwight fan but Kobe hardly ever passed him the ball either. No matter how well someone else is shooting, Kobe doesn’t feel guilty for not passing the ball to the hot hand. I don’t understand that.

          2. This is an article about how one of the greatest players wants to be remembered and all we get is a bunch of turds spouting negativity.

            And folks wonder why they call Lakers fans spoiled.

          3. It’s very simple. Kobe never takes responsibility for throwing up 20 bricks in a game—over and over. I don’t respect that.

      1. It looked like he didnt have the shoulder strength or ability to extend his arm to make the layup either his shoulder still needs gain back some of it’s strength or he has lost it due the injury.

        1. Nope. The doctors cleared him to play. He’s healthy. It’s time to stop making excuses for him. He’s done.

          1. Just because he’s physically able to play doesn’t mean he has the full 100% capacity to play.

            How about you accept Kobe’s retiring and that the team would suck with or without him. So instead of complaining like a spoiled kid, enjoy the last moment of a great player?

            Kobe’s not the reason the team is 1-5.

          2. I have completely accepted that Kobe is retiring. I just wish he would have done it sooner, like right after the torn achilles. It really sucks watching him lower his career stats with these awful performances.

            I also agree that this team would suck with or without him. It just sucks that he is taking minutes that these young guys could be using to develop so that he can take ridiculous shots and only make 30 percent of them.

          3. Yes. Kobe is the reason we are 1-5. If Nick was playing, we would be 3-3., a

          4. So you are okay with Kobe averaging 16 points 2 assists and 3 rebounds on 30 percent shooting? Are you really a fan or do you just like trolling?

      1. True. I just read an article ranking the last 50 Finals champs. They had it that Kobe shot 38.7% in the 2004 Finals against the Pistons.

      2. Yea like those 5 championships he shot us out of, you’re gonna hate even if we were winning another ring cause you’re fixated on being a dicking riding hater.

        1. He didn’t win any of those championships by himself. You sound like you are the one “riding his jock” to me. I am just pointing out that Kobe has been throwing up bricks for years. It is what it is. No team can win in the NBA on Kobe’s numbers in his later years. Get real.

    1. Really?
      In the 2 years since, I’m not sure the team improved.

      So what are you really arguing?

      The team still sucks and is lottery bound. And while Kobe’s not an efficient player, he’s still the top 1 or 2 player on this team. Without Kobe, for what it’s worth, the team would be worse.

      1. Yet in 13-14, a season Kobe only played 6 games, the team started better and won more games than a season Kobe played 35 games. The worse theme you and many state is false.

          1. kinda true. if they would have started

            blake meeks, wes, pau , kaman from the start they could have been 14-5

          2. Those were the bench players, less Hill at times. They were the ones who shocked the Clippers in that first game.

          3. But is was Farmar, Hill, X & Young who were red hot in that game. MDA experimented with the starting line ups like most coaches do who don’t have a season core.

          4. again not true we started

            blake, nash, yong, williams, and pau that night

            young was 3-10 that night and only played 22m

            the unit that won the game was

            farmar, meeks, x, wes, hill

            that was then grope in at the end of the game

          5. You might be right about that one game but MDA did not have a set group of starters.

      2. Okay. Let me be clear. What I’m saying is Kobe’s best days, which were pretty good, are in the rear view mirror; and the Lakers are better off if he just retired. I “really” believe that. If he stopped playing today and others got all of his shots, do I think those other shots would fall and a better rate than he’s shooting now (32%)? Absolutely. Would they win more games? Maybe, maybe not. But, they could definitely move on with their rebuild sooner if he just retired asap like he should if he cared about anyone but himself. You seem to follow B. Scott’s logic of trying to win as many games as possible today. What is the point of winning games now at the expense of building for the future?

        1. Let me be clear.

          This forum is better off without fake fans and Kobe haters like you. I “really” believe that.

          1. This is Lakersnation last I checked; not Kobenation. People like you make it clear the two are not one in the same.

      1. But you sure are worried about it. You are not a Lakers fan. Kobe’s nonsense is not in the best interest of the Lakers. And the idea that the Lakers owe him something because he sells tickets and jerseys is over blown. The Lakers were one of the most popular (and most successful) franchises before he was born and will still be after he’s long retired.

  • Maybe if he retired after hitting those 2 free throws after blowing out his Achilles. But no. He’s stayed well beyond his expiration date.

        1. I thought he said he’d hang it up if he couldn’t play up to his standards. So what exactly are “his” standards?

          1. I don’t know how he keeps showing up at practice the next day after throwing up as many bricks as he does. I was never a Dwight fan but Kobe hardly ever passed him the ball either. No matter how well someone else is shooting, Kobe doesn’t feel guilty for not passing the ball to the hot hand. I don’t understand that.

          2. This is an article about how one of the greatest players wants to be remembered and all we get is a bunch of turds spouting negativity.

            And folks wonder why they call Lakers fans spoiled.

          3. It’s very simple. Kobe never takes responsibility for throwing up 20 bricks in a game—over and over. I don’t respect that.

      1. It looked like he didnt have the shoulder strength or ability to extend his arm to make the layup either his shoulder still needs gain back some of it’s strength or he has lost it due the injury.

        1. Nope. The doctors cleared him to play. He’s healthy. It’s time to stop making excuses for him. He’s done.

          1. Just because he’s physically able to play doesn’t mean he has the full 100% capacity to play.

            How about you accept Kobe’s retiring and that the team would suck with or without him. So instead of complaining like a spoiled kid, enjoy the last moment of a great player?

            Kobe’s not the reason the team is 1-5.

          2. I have completely accepted that Kobe is retiring. I just wish he would have done it sooner, like right after the torn achilles. It really sucks watching him lower his career stats with these awful performances.

            I also agree that this team would suck with or without him. It just sucks that he is taking minutes that these young guys could be using to develop so that he can take ridiculous shots and only make 30 percent of them.

          3. Yes. Kobe is the reason we are 1-5. If Nick was playing, we would be 3-3., a

          4. So you are okay with Kobe averaging 16 points 2 assists and 3 rebounds on 30 percent shooting? Are you really a fan or do you just like trolling?

      1. True. I just read an article ranking the last 50 Finals champs. They had it that Kobe shot 38.7% in the 2004 Finals against the Pistons.

      2. Yea like those 5 championships he shot us out of, you’re gonna hate even if we were winning another ring cause you’re fixated on being a dicking riding hater.

        1. He didn’t win any of those championships by himself. You sound like you are the one “riding his jock” to me. I am just pointing out that Kobe has been throwing up bricks for years. It is what it is. No team can win in the NBA on Kobe’s numbers in his later years. Get real.

    1. Really?
      In the 2 years since, I’m not sure the team improved.

      So what are you really arguing?

      The team still sucks and is lottery bound. And while Kobe’s not an efficient player, he’s still the top 1 or 2 player on this team. Without Kobe, for what it’s worth, the team would be worse.

      1. Yet in 13-14, a season Kobe only played 6 games, the team started better and won more games than a season Kobe played 35 games. The worse theme you and many state is false.

          1. kinda true. if they would have started

            blake meeks, wes, pau , kaman from the start they could have been 14-5

          2. Those were the bench players, less Hill at times. They were the ones who shocked the Clippers in that first game.

          3. But is was Farmar, Hill, X & Young who were red hot in that game. MDA experimented with the starting line ups like most coaches do who don’t have a season core.

          4. again not true we started

            blake, nash, yong, williams, and pau that night

            young was 3-10 that night and only played 22m

            the unit that won the game was

            farmar, meeks, x, wes, hill

            that was then grope in at the end of the game

          5. You might be right about that one game but MDA did not have a set group of starters.

      2. Okay. Let me be clear. What I’m saying is Kobe’s best days, which were pretty good, are in the rear view mirror; and the Lakers are better off if he just retired. I “really” believe that. If he stopped playing today and others got all of his shots, do I think those other shots would fall and a better rate than he’s shooting now (32%)? Absolutely. Would they win more games? Maybe, maybe not. But, they could definitely move on with their rebuild sooner if he just retired asap like he should if he cared about anyone but himself. You seem to follow B. Scott’s logic of trying to win as many games as possible today. What is the point of winning games now at the expense of building for the future?

        1. Let me be clear.

          This forum is better off without fake fans and Kobe haters like you. I “really” believe that.

          1. This is Lakersnation last I checked; not Kobenation. People like you make it clear the two are not one in the same.

      1. But you sure are worried about it. You are not a Lakers fan. Kobe’s nonsense is not in the best interest of the Lakers. And the idea that the Lakers owe him something because he sells tickets and jerseys is over blown. The Lakers were one of the most popular (and most successful) franchises before he was born and will still be after he’s long retired.

  • Anyone who wants Kobe back next year is selfishly putting their own nostalgia above the Lakers on the floor. Thanks Kobe for what you’ve given us, but next year please give us freedom.

      1. no kobe needs to retire. im just going to laugh when we suck with out him and people like you patrick and a few others cant blame him anymore.

        the fo and coach are holding us back not kobe

          1. I am calling bull….
            These kids need playing time. They need mentors and guys to help them overcome. Coaching and “systems” ain’t gonna do jack to disrupt their future.

            And playing with a professional like Kobe who is ALWAYS in the correct offensive spot, and is always doing the correct thing is a lot better than some spacey rookie who is out of position the entire time. The only thing wrong with kobe is the execution, not what or where he is on the floor. So instead of Kobe, let’s plug in Kelly at SF… is that better for their growth?

            So unlike you, I think playing with Kobe is the BEST thing they could have happen.

            The bottom line is that until these kids learn how to play together and win themselves someone like Kobe isn’t going to matter. Until they decide to take the shot rather than pass to Kobe it isn’t going to matter. They just need playing time.

            — Some guys just want to complain and twist truth to support whatever beef they want to spout.

          2. Who was Kevin Durant and Westbrook’s mentors their rookie seasons? What about Curry Klay, Kyrie, ETC…?

          3. the lakers are not going to wait 7 seasons for their young players to get good and still never win titles

          4. They did in the 90’s. Who’s to say it will take us that long to get back into contention? As Kobe himself said, he felt his growth was stumped riding the pine in his rookie season.

          5. HAHAHAH

            Scotts gretest problem is his affinity with Kobe? LMFAO!

            HATER STYLE! LOL

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            Except Byron still regards and coaches Kobe like a fanboy. AK

            Has nothing to do with hating Kobe. Scott is flat out too attached and cannot be objective.

          7. We’ll agree to disagree and many Lakers reporters agree with my take as shown by the tweets I’ve put out there.

          8. no they are not they take the time to bash kobe when ever they get the chance.

            the media is loving the lakers struggels

          9. No they critique Kobe unbiased just like Kevin Ding (a long time friend of Kobe) or Mike Trudell, Mark Media, ETC…

            We stink right now and they are not gonna sugarcoat it.

          10. The 90’s are gone but Kobe is still here!

            Stop living in the 90’s Lakers era.

            Thats a testament to his greatness!

          11. In no way am I living in the 90’s but you cannot accept it’s time to let the new generation have their beginning.

        1. Exactly all these people so quick to blame kobe. But they didnt do anything last season when kobe was out and they wouldn’t be any better this season with or without kobe. They would still be 1-5 maybe even 0-6 without kobe. So why blame kobe? Are the lakers suddenly going to win games without him? nope. Is he hurting player development nope. Clarkson has had breakout games, randles had some breakout games, Russell had an ok game Friday. Sure if kobe’s out someone has to take charge and lead the team but I get the feeling like clarkson is already sort of doing that.

          1. A. He is taking minutes away from Brown.
            B. Those 19 field goal attempts could be distributed between the young guys.

            Kobe shooting 19 times while Russell gets 7 shots is not ideal for development.

          2. Russell is barely a starter.
            Why are you so focused on Russell when it’s Kobe’s last year?

            Do you realize that thousands of people would rather see kobe airball than russell shoot a single shot?

            Kobe has gotten a standing ovation in every stadium he’s played in so far. Has any one cared about Russell yet? — Yes only the small handful of egotistical Lakers fans who can’t come to terms and realize that there is something greater than their own self centered world.

          3. exactly this kobe is embarrassing and all cj has to say is “its the systems fault” lol

          4. its byrons fault when kobe forces up a terrible 3 while lou is standing there wide open?

          5. no it’s Byron’s fault why he can’t put anyone in proper positions to succeed. He had Russell playing SG on opening night. Then quickly changes for the next game. Byron not being able to make up his mind on who the starters will be.
            Byron is a clown of a coach

          6. I’m not sure Kobe is embarassed.
            he walks into any stadium in the country to a standing ovation and hears 15K fans chant his name.

            he’s grateful for his fans.

          7. Russell is our future, Kobe is our past. I am focused on the future as should all fans of the Lakers

          8. And 99% of the basketball world is focused on the past.

            Maybe your focus is a bit misguided or you are a bit self centered to think that your 1% is better than the rest.

            The fans want Kobe. For better or worse, come to terms.

          9. there is no convincing these guys that kobe is doing more harm than good by putting up so many bad shots

          10. I love watching the games, just wish the field goal attempts were more spread out and the offense wasn’t sticking so much. We have a promising young core that will lead the next era of the Lakers.

          11. we all want to see more balance. I think the game vs Nets was a lot better in terms of spreading shots around. Again, i want Byron to tell his players that. I’m sure Kobe wouldn’t mind being called out for forcing bad shots

          12. It makes no difference if he’s doing more harm than good.
            It’s out of our control and it is what it is.

            You don’t make decisions that affect 1M+ broadcast viewers a night.
            You don’t make the decisions on how to run a billion dollar enterprise and international brand.
            and
            You don’t make decisions on how to positively affect the NBA world and entertainment business.

            All you want to do is focus on how YOU believe the team would be better.

            You can’t see the forest for the trees.

          13. Even the Time Warner analysts were calling for it to stop and for Kobe to take a lesser role.

          14. there was one possession i recall where Kobe was demanding the ball for the whole shot clock. It was tough to watch. but that was only one play. no one played good today offensively except Hibert

          15. they should give him the ball and learn to play off of him. if they played off of his passing they would get tons of easy shots.

          16. Watch the whole thing. Coop even went as far as saying “KOBE is holding the team back”.

          17. “Why are you so focused on Russell when it’s Kobe’s last year?”

            Really?!? This is the problem. Wanting to see Kobe one last time is fine but not at the cost of the development of the kid’s that will be the future of the team. Unreal.

          18. DONT BE AN IGNORANT KOBE HATER !

            A) Why didnt Williams make his shots?
            B) Why didnt Young make his shots?
            C) Why didnt Clarkson make all his shots?
            D) Why didnt Randle make all his shots?
            E) Why didnt Russell make all his shots?

            I love these guys but if each one made at least one more of their bricks we would have one.

            All you idiots need to remove the hater goggles and open your eyes.

            STOP HATING ON KOBE!

          19. They didn’t do anything? They developed. Clarkson’s development is a direct result of not having to put up with playing with Kobe Bryant.

          20. Wouldn’t that be true of any #2 guy who gets promoted to the #1?

            You’re twisting truth again.

      1. He’s like a giant Black Hole and his former glory just blinds these young guys to what a below average player Kobe has become.

    1. And anyone that wants to bash Kobe is selfishly putting their own ego above the rest of the basketball world. Thanks Kobe for what you’ve given us, the 5 championships, 20 years of glory, and all the wins.

      I really can’t believe the selfishness of a bunch of armchair hacks who spend no money and want to criticize someone based on their free TV broadcast experiences.

      Give a monkey a keyboard and he might end up with a username like P….

    2. 6 Games in after being out practically 2 years and you internet pro’s think you have it all figured out. Douchebag viewers.

      1. 6 games, 60 games, the only difference will be the fatigue level will be even higher as the season goes on. You Kobe apologists like to conveniently block out what transpired last season, and use the excuse that he will get better, when last season showed he got worse as the season went on, and after 30 games completely broke down and had to take games off. You are all either incredibly young and don’t know how an old body works, or you’ve never played sport at an age beyond 35. This isn’t a video game.

  • Anyone who wants Kobe back next year is selfishly putting their own nostalgia above the Lakers on the floor. Thanks Kobe for what you’ve given us, but next year please give us freedom.

      1. no kobe needs to retire. im just going to laugh when we suck with out him and people like you patrick and a few others cant blame him anymore.

        the fo and coach are holding us back not kobe

          1. I am calling bull….
            These kids need playing time. They need mentors and guys to help them overcome. Coaching and “systems” ain’t gonna do jack to disrupt their future.

            And playing with a professional like Kobe who is ALWAYS in the correct offensive spot, and is always doing the correct thing is a lot better than some spacey rookie who is out of position the entire time. The only thing wrong with kobe is the execution, not what or where he is on the floor. So instead of Kobe, let’s plug in Kelly at SF… is that better for their growth?

            So unlike you, I think playing with Kobe is the BEST thing they could have happen.

            The bottom line is that until these kids learn how to play together and win themselves someone like Kobe isn’t going to matter. Until they decide to take the shot rather than pass to Kobe it isn’t going to matter. They just need playing time.

            — Some guys just want to complain and twist truth to support whatever beef they want to spout.

          2. Who was Kevin Durant and Westbrook’s mentors their rookie seasons? What about Curry Klay, Kyrie, ETC…?

          3. the lakers are not going to wait 7 seasons for their young players to get good and still never win titles

          4. They did in the 90’s. Who’s to say it will take us that long to get back into contention? As Kobe himself said, he felt his growth was stumped riding the pine in his rookie season.

          5. HAHAHAH

            Scotts gretest problem is his affinity with Kobe? LMFAO!

            HATER STYLE! LOL

          6. Kamenetzky Brothers ‏@KamBrothers 4h4 hours ago

            Kamenetzky Brothers Retweeted RBIII

            Except Byron still regards and coaches Kobe like a fanboy. AK

            Has nothing to do with hating Kobe. Scott is flat out too attached and cannot be objective, much like you and other Kobe zealots.

          7. We’ll agree to disagree and many Lakers reporters agree with my take as shown by the tweets I’ve put out there.

          8. no they are not they take the time to bash kobe when ever they get the chance.

            the media is loving the lakers struggels

          9. No they critique Kobe unbiased just like Kevin Ding (a long time friend of Kobe) or Mike Trudell, Mark Media, ETC…

            We stink right now and they are not gonna sugarcoat it.

          10. The 90’s are gone but Kobe is still here!

            Stop living in the 90’s Lakers era.

            Thats a testament to his greatness!

          11. In no way am I living in the 90’s but you cannot accept it’s time to let the new generation have their beginning.

        1. Exactly all these people so quick to blame kobe. But they didnt do anything last season when kobe was out and they wouldn’t be any better this season with or without kobe. They would still be 1-5 maybe even 0-6 without kobe. So why blame kobe? Are the lakers suddenly going to win games without him? nope. Is he hurting player development nope. Clarkson has had breakout games, randles had some breakout games, Russell had an ok game Friday. Sure if kobe’s out someone has to take charge and lead the team but I get the feeling like clarkson is already sort of doing that.

          1. A. He is taking minutes away from Brown.
            B. Those 19 field goal attempts could be distributed between the young guys.

            Kobe shooting 19 times while Russell gets 7 shots is not ideal for development.

          2. Russell is barely a starter.
            Why are you so focused on Russell when it’s Kobe’s last year?

            Do you realize that thousands of people would rather see kobe airball than russell shoot a single shot?

            Kobe has gotten a standing ovation in every stadium he’s played in so far. Has any one cared about Russell yet? — Yes only the small handful of egotistical Lakers fans who can’t come to terms and realize that there is something greater than their own self centered world.

          3. exactly this kobe is embarrassing and all cj has to say is “its the systems fault” lol

          4. its byrons fault when kobe forces up a terrible 3 while lou is standing there wide open?

          5. no it’s Byron’s fault why he can’t put anyone in proper positions to succeed. He had Russell playing SG on opening night. Then quickly changes for the next game. Byron not being able to make up his mind on who the starters will be.
            Byron is a clown of a coach

          6. I’m not sure Kobe is embarassed.
            he walks into any stadium in the country to a standing ovation and hears 15K fans chant his name.

            he’s grateful for his fans.

          7. Russell is our future, Kobe is our past. I am focused on the future as should all fans of the Lakers

          8. And 99% of the basketball world is focused on the past.

            Maybe your focus is a bit misguided or you are a bit self centered to think that your 1% is better than the rest.

            The fans want Kobe. For better or worse, come to terms.

          9. there is no convincing these guys that kobe is doing more harm than good by putting up so many bad shots

          10. I love watching the games, just wish the field goal attempts were more spread out and the offense wasn’t sticking so much. We have a promising young core that will lead the next era of the Lakers.

          11. we all want to see more balance. I think the game vs Nets was a lot better in terms of spreading shots around. Again, i want Byron to tell his players that. I’m sure Kobe wouldn’t mind being called out for forcing bad shots

          12. It makes no difference if he’s doing more harm than good.
            It’s out of our control and it is what it is.

            You don’t make decisions that affect 1M+ broadcast viewers a night.
            You don’t make the decisions on how to run a billion dollar enterprise and international brand.
            and
            You don’t make decisions on how to positively affect the NBA world and entertainment business.

            All you want to do is focus on how YOU believe the team would be better.

            You can’t see the forest for the trees.

          13. Even the Time Warner analysts were calling for it to stop and for Kobe to take a lesser role.

          14. there was one possession i recall where Kobe was demanding the ball for the whole shot clock. It was tough to watch. but that was only one play. no one played good today offensively except Hibert

          15. they should give him the ball and learn to play off of him. if they played off of his passing they would get tons of easy shots.

          16. Watch the whole thing. Coop even went as far as saying “KOBE is holding the team back”.

          17. “Why are you so focused on Russell when it’s Kobe’s last year?”

            Really?!? This is the problem. Wanting to see Kobe one last time is fine but not at the cost of the development of the kid’s that will be the future of the team. Unreal.

          18. DONT BE AN IGNORANT KOBE HATER !

            A) Why didnt Williams make his shots?
            B) Why didnt Young make his shots?
            C) Why didnt Clarkson make all his shots?
            D) Why didnt Randle make all his shots?
            E) Why didnt Russell make all his shots?

            I love these guys but if each one made at least one more of their bricks we would have one.

            All you idiots need to remove the hater goggles and open your eyes.

            STOP HATING ON KOBE!

          19. They didn’t do anything? They developed. Clarkson’s development is a direct result of not having to put up with playing with Kobe Bryant.

          20. Wouldn’t that be true of any #2 guy who gets promoted to the #1?

            You’re twisting truth again.

      1. He’s like a giant Black Hole and his former glory just blinds these young guys to what a below average player Kobe has become.

    1. And anyone that wants to bash Kobe is selfishly putting their own ego above the rest of the basketball world. Thanks Kobe for what you’ve given us, the 5 championships, 20 years of glory, and all the wins.

      I really can’t believe the selfishness of a bunch of armchair hacks who spend no money and want to criticize someone based on their free TV broadcast experiences.

      Give a monkey a keyboard and he might end up with a username like P….

    2. 6 Games in after being out practically 2 years and you internet pro’s think you have it all figured out. Douchebag viewers.

      1. 6 games, 60 games, the only difference will be the fatigue level will be even higher as the season goes on. You Kobe apologists like to conveniently block out what transpired last season, and use the excuse that he will get better, when last season showed he got worse as the season went on, and after 30 games completely broke down and had to take games off. You are all either incredibly young and don’t know how an old body works, or you’ve never played sport at an age beyond 35. This isn’t a video game.

  • Wishful Thinking: Knowing that Kobe said this ‘might’ be his last year, i hope the young guys use it as motivation to do better, be more competitive, just to make his season, as well as the fans’ season a little more special.

  • Wishful Thinking: Knowing that Kobe said this ‘might’ be his last year, i hope the young guys use it as motivation to do better, be more competitive, just to make his season, as well as the fans’ season a little more special.

  • No matter what I will remember Kobe very fondly. But that Kobe I will remember retired three years ago.

  • No matter what I will remember Kobe very fondly. But that Kobe I will remember retired three years ago.

  • KOBE 6/19 = 31% 3s 2/10=20% I guess we will have to wait till next year to re build, our young guys are not getting much help.

  • KOBE 6/19 = 31% 3s 2/10=20% I guess we will have to wait till next year to re build, our young guys are not getting much help.

  • The yearlong Kobe Farewell Tour has just started and I’m already sick of it. Why can’t the MEDIA and the Lakers Organization comprehend that we fans are not in the mood for nostalgia? We want to see the team perform well and win. And the biggest hurdle in that foreseeable positive path is one Kobe Bryant. Sick of this.

  • The yearlong Kobe Farewell Tour has just started and I’m already sick of it. Why can’t the MEDIA and the Lakers Organization comprehend that we fans are not in the mood for nostalgia? We want to see the team perform well and win. And the biggest hurdle in that foreseeable positive path is one Kobe Bryant. Sick of this.

  • I’ve been one of the biggest Kobe fans for the last two decades. Don’t think I’ve ever missed a game that Kobe has played. I love this man. But I wish he had a bit of a guilty conscience to take a step back, perhaps come off the bench, and not be a burden on the team. We lost tonight because of Kobe. Plain and simple.

      1. Stop being a Kobe homer. I love Kobe just as much any Laker fan. Just man up and admit that he’s sucking the life out of this team right now. We were 86-80 in the fourth quarter before Kobe went on a 85% usage rate. BS is doing the same right now, he doesn’t have the balls to sit Kobe in the 4th.

        1. He played the same way last year. He’s been done for awhile just too stubborn to give it up. This is where having a coach who’s in control helps.

  • I’ve been one of the biggest Kobe fans for the last two decades. Don’t think I’ve ever missed a game that Kobe has played. I love this man. But I wish he had a bit of a guilty conscience to take a step back, perhaps come off the bench, and not be a burden on the team. We lost tonight because of Kobe. Plain and simple.

      1. Stop being a Kobe homer. I love Kobe just as much any Laker fan. Just man up and admit that he’s sucking the life out of this team right now. We were 86-80 in the fourth quarter before Kobe went on a 85% usage rate. BS is doing the same right now, he doesn’t have the balls to sit Kobe in the 4th.

        1. He played the same way last year. He’s been done for awhile just too stubborn to give it up. This is where having a coach who’s in control helps.

  • Sadly while the TWolves have Kevin Garnett playing 12 minutes a game and really mentoring their young guys, he is not taking all the shots, hogging the ball, but instead doing what he does best at his age, setting screens and rebounding. He still gets to start, gets a farewell at every arena and really is a good role model for those young guys.

    While in Laker Land, we have Kobe Bryant the de facto coach it would seem, taking minutes away, taking the ball away and taking shots away. He’s barely playing any defense, and all the young guys seem to be following his lead, jacking up shots and ISO all night long. There are some things that they should absolutely not take away from Kobe’s game. Honestly I cannot wait for the young guys to be free of him.

    1. Do you really think the team would be improved by ABrown playing instead?

      They would be worse.

      Maybe you should accept that this team SUCKS this year. Stop typing the nonsense and come to terms.

      And, while you are at it, realize that THOUSANDS of people pay to watch KOBE. So no matter what you think, the THOUSANDS of fans who pay to watch him every night might have a bit more pull than you and your misguided words.

      1. Damn straight they would be worse, but they would be better for it down the road. Anthony Brown for example is a 3 and D guy, he can’t learn any D sitting there on the pine every game. He needs to be defending the best NBA wing players night in night out. That’s how he will grow, Wiggins was absolutely thrown to the wolves in his rookie year, being asked to guard the best player from his first game, he failed over and over again. But eventually he got it right. I don’t care about those fans and their damn nostalgia, they can pay to watch him for one game while they sit there on their cell phones most of the game. That’s just like paying to go to the museum and looking at a dinosaur, it’s great to look at them once and a while, but to go to a musuem every damn day. That becomes tedious, and loses its appeal pretty damn quick.

        1. How would they be better?
          Kobe’s ALWAYS in the correct spot. Kobe ALWAYS draws his player and KOBE is a force on the offense.

          So you think adding some kid who will struggle at SF and make the offense worse is helping them? Add Kelly to SF, or Holmes, or even Young… IS the team better? Does it actually help their growth?

          How about looking at Randle and Clarkson and Russell and saying, Stop passing to Kobe and hoping the old man bails you out. Ball out on your own.

          1. How will he make the offense worse? If anything he will balance it out by only being a spot up guy and setting screens. He won’t need the ball in his hands to be effective, like Kobe, Clarkson, DLo and Randle all seem to. Too many ball dominant players aren’t going to mesh well at all. And Kobe is the worst amongst them. How many times does Kobe get the ball at the elbow from either Clarkson or DLo, they make a cut and Kobe immediately dummies the pass to them, I’ve never seen him once give up the ball, he dummies every time to see if he can get his own shot away. It’s disgusting to watch. He is not a team player, never has been and never will be. He only seems to pass if the the pass will result in an assist, he will never pass if it’s for the sake of ball movement, unless his goal is to get the pass back for a better look for himself. He is greedy, there is no changing that.

          2. if you can honestly say u have not seen kobe pass the ball to the cutters then you dont watch the games

          3. I see a guy getting a pass at the end of the shot clock, and taking the same shot he’s taken for 20 years.

            It’s just that this time, he’s working on a reconstructed shoulder and hasn’t been playing for more than 2 months.

            Can you name ANY player who was 100% the first month after they’ve returned from an injury?
            – Maybe Sacre… *joke*

          4. i see everyone taking shots out of the broken system. there hasn’t been flow since the summer league team

          5. yep. i counted 2 or 3 bad shots from kobe tonight. out of 19 thats not bad russ had atleast two. randle had like 7.

            i would say about 80% of kobes shots this season have been system shots not forced shots

          6. If you really believe what you wrote, I’m not sure you’ve watched Kobe THIS season.

      2. They would be better. A Brown would not shot 30% and his defense would be miles better. Randle could play the pinch post and not have to be at the 3pt line like when Kobe is in the game.

        We wouldn’t be 1-5 with A Brown starting. We would have a couple of wins.

  • Sadly while the TWolves have Kevin Garnett playing 12 minutes a game and really mentoring their young guys, he is not taking all the shots, hogging the ball, but instead doing what he does best at his age, setting screens and rebounding. He still gets to start, gets a farewell at every arena and really is a good role model for those young guys.

    While in Laker Land, we have Kobe Bryant the de facto coach it would seem, taking minutes away, taking the ball away and taking shots away. He’s barely playing any defense, and all the young guys seem to be following his lead, jacking up shots and ISO all night long. There are some things that they should absolutely not take away from Kobe’s game. Honestly I cannot wait for the young guys to be free of him.

    1. Do you really think the team would be improved by ABrown playing instead?

      They would be worse.

      Maybe you should accept that this team SUCKS this year. Stop typing the nonsense and come to terms.

      And, while you are at it, realize that THOUSANDS of people pay to watch KOBE. So no matter what you think, the THOUSANDS of fans who pay to watch him every night might have a bit more pull than you and your misguided words.

      1. Damn straight they would be worse, but they would be better for it down the road. Anthony Brown for example is a 3 and D guy, he can’t learn any D sitting there on the pine every game. He needs to be defending the best NBA wing players night in night out. That’s how he will grow, Wiggins was absolutely thrown to the wolves in his rookie year, being asked to guard the best player from his first game, he failed over and over again. But eventually he got it right. I don’t care about those fans and their damn nostalgia, they can pay to watch him for one game while they sit there on their cell phones most of the game. That’s just like paying to go to the museum and looking at a dinosaur, it’s great to look at them once and a while, but to go to a museum every damn day, that becomes tedious and loses its appeal pretty damn quick.

        1. How would they be better?
          Kobe’s ALWAYS in the correct spot. Kobe ALWAYS draws his player and KOBE is a force on the offense.

          So you think adding some kid who will struggle at SF and make the offense worse is helping them? Add Kelly to SF, or Holmes, or even Young… IS the team better? Does it actually help their growth?

          How about looking at Randle and Clarkson and Russell and saying, Stop passing to Kobe and hoping the old man bails you out. Ball out on your own.

          1. How will he make the offense worse? If anything he will balance it out by only being a spot up guy and setting screens. He won’t need the ball in his hands to be effective, like Kobe, Clarkson, DLo and Randle all seem to. Too many ball dominant players aren’t going to mesh well at all. And Kobe is the worst amongst them. How many times does Kobe get the ball at the elbow from either Clarkson or DLo, they make a cut and Kobe immediately dummies the pass to them, I’ve never seen him once give up the ball, he dummies every time to see if he can get his own shot away. It’s disgusting to watch. He is not a team player, never has been and never will be. He only seems to pass if the the pass will result in an assist, he will never pass if it’s for the sake of ball movement, unless his goal is to get the pass back for a better look for himself. He is greedy, there is no changing that.

          2. if you can honestly say u have not seen kobe pass the ball to the cutters then you dont watch the games

          3. I see a guy getting a pass at the end of the shot clock, and taking the same shot he’s taken for 20 years.

            It’s just that this time, he’s working on a reconstructed shoulder and hasn’t been playing for more than 2 months.

            Can you name ANY player who was 100% the first month after they’ve returned from an injury?
            – Maybe Sacre… *joke*

          4. i see everyone taking shots out of the broken system. there hasn’t been flow since the summer league team

          5. yep. i counted 2 or 3 bad shots from kobe tonight. out of 19 thats not bad russ had atleast two. randle had like 7.

            i would say about 80% of kobes shots this season have been system shots not forced shots

          6. If you really believe what you wrote, I’m not sure you’ve watched Kobe THIS season.

      2. They would be better. A Brown would not shot 30% and his defense would be miles better. Randle could play the pinch post and not have to be at the 3pt line like when Kobe is in the game.

        We wouldn’t be 1-5 with A Brown starting. We would have a couple of wins.

  • Yep, he’s said this before. Scoring 81 points in four quarters of a NBA game, is definitely what OVER-achievers do. I’m not sure what the heck he was doing wearing that long sleeve undershirt. But since everybody shot terribly, I got no problem with his 6 outta 19 from the field. I’m confident that he can eventually improve his percentage.

  • Yep, he’s said this before. Scoring 81 points in four quarters of a NBA game, is definitely what OVER-achievers do. I’m not sure what the heck he was doing wearing that long sleeve undershirt. But since everybody shot terribly, I got no problem with his 6 outta 19 from the field. I’m confident that he can eventually improve his percentage.

  • Maybe playing small forward isn’t best for Kobe. It’s harder for him to post up opposing SFs so he has to take outside jumpers.

      1. noticed it since the first preseason game. Kobe is mostly stationary in the corner until the play breaks down. That’s not his game. Byron needs to watch film of MJ on Wizards

        1. thats the biggest issue. kobe is not getting the ball tell around the 8-7 sec mark most of the time. at that point all he can do is either shoot the semi open jumper which at this point in hs career is alittle out of his range or he can make a move or two and have to shoot a terrible shot.

          if you game kobe shots like pirce and lance get with the clippers he would still be shooting around 45%

    1. OK…
      So kobe moves to SG and catches flack for limiting Clarkson’s playing time.

      Or Kobe becomes a facilitator, and then catches flack for limiting Russell’s playing time, or not shooting enough.

      Get a grip. Stop whining like a spoiled brat and come to terms. This is Kobe’s last year, and until May you are going to have to accept that he’s going on tour so that his THOUSANDS of fans can see him one last time.

      If you aren’t one of the THOUSANDS you can very easily turn off the TV.

      Do you realize that MILLIONS of people have watched him over the course of his 20 year career? Every basketball from 1988 to 2007 wanted to be Kobe. He’s so well known that he can’t travel to another country without being mobbed. This isn’t about YOU.

      1. i was whining? I still believe he can help the team win. Just giving my opinion on what may be causing his struggles.

        1. Who cares?
          Kobe’s not playing after this year….. And of all the players ever to play, Kobe’s the one who will find a way to improve.

          So you’re sideline critic on Kobe seems A LOT misguided and like a spoiled child complaining that he can’t stand at the water cooler and brag tomorrow.

          1. i only said that maybe the small forward position isn’t suited for Kobe so far. He’s the 2nd greatest SG ever

          2. If it’s not suited for kobe… then where is he going to play?

            Sounds like someone complaining without a solution… or someone complaining just to vent.

          3. Well obviously he has to play sf because he is allowing Russell and Clarkson to play in the backcourt. Just my opinion Kobe would be better playing the sg. But it doesn’t matter since it’s his final year

      2. so in other words you’re saying who cares if we lose games all that matters is kobe farewell tour???

        1. I’m saying it’s an entertainment industry.
          if THOUSANDS of people want to see kobe, then that’s what they get.

          And if the Owners of the team want to do that, we must accept it.

          Also, the bottom line is that Kobe playing (or not) doesn’t change the immediate future of this team. So the argument about “player growth” if weak…. Does Russell need 4 more shots every game to miss? If ABrown isn’t ready to be on the bench does it matter he isn’t a starter?

          1. yea the argument “its kobe last year” is much better lol you and cj need kobe rehab

      3. What if it’s not Kobe’s last year though? What if he becomes comfortable with this shot jacking and ball hogging, what if he actually lasts 82 games? What if he thinks he can get Kareem’s record? Could you honestly stomach another season like this one of Kobe Bryant?

          1. Well I can tell you right now, that he may well have a really great game every now and then, but as the season goes on he will not get better, he will get worse as the minutes pile up and the grind goes on. Remember last season when he started breaking down and needed to take games off, that’s exactly what will happen. His joints are probably aching after every game, and the healing takes longer and longer as you age. So unless he has developed reserve ageing technology, things are going to look a lot worse, especially when he actually starts facing the really good teams.

          2. So who cares?
            I’d rather watch Kobe than ABrown.

            Even if it is old, tired and worn down Kobe.

            Especially since this season is lost anyways and it makes no difference.

          3. I’d rather see both of them play. Kobe doesn’t need to play all these minutes, he should play the first 8 and the last 8. He doesn’t need more than 16 minutes, the fans can watch him play hero ball at the end and he can potentially get the Lakers off to a good start. Then the guys who need to develop can get some serious burn during the middle stages, and if it’s already over before Kobe comes back in down the stretch, who cares? It’s garbage time, the pressure is off and Kobe can play around against some scrubs. Why sacrifice an entire season? There’s likely no draft pick next year, so it’s crucial that these kids log as many minutes as possible, ideally together..

          4. so you want a rusty Kobe who sits for a couple hours to enter for the final 8 minutes???

          5. so you’re basing this off of 6 games, while Kobe hasn’t played real games since January?

          6. I know, I didn’t factor in the fatigue factor which will increase with every game.

          7. He’s trying not to get injured, meaning he is decreasing the actual explosive movements, the anaerobic activity if you will. That doesn’t mean he still isn’t running up and down that hard court as his joints click away with every step.

          8. You are obviously incredibly young if you believe that, or you’ve never actually played organized sport before.

          9. no i know basketball he will get better if he can stay healthy because he will figure out how to attack for this team and the style his team needs him to play

          10. That may well be true, but “his legs will get stronger”. That is an absolute fantasy.

          11. his fg% has been rising every game since the he started at 27% hes up to 32% now because his legs are getting better and hes getting better shots.

          12. That only indicates, the rust factor is coming off, the fatigue factor will start to set in after this. It happened last season too… Kobe was shooting 0.377 in his first 10 games, in the second 10 games he was shooting 0.409, but the next 10 games he was down to 0.342, he started taking games off at this point due to FATIGUE.

          13. no nick came back and helped him get his game back then nick got hurt and the team fell threw

          14. This had nothing to do with Nick, this was pure fatigue, why do you think he had to sit all those games? Stop making excuses and come back to reality.

        1. If the owners of the team want to bring him back, that’s THEIR decision. Much like MWP.

          I support any player currently on the team. Whether or not I agree with the pick is irrelevant.

          1. The owners would bring him back in a heart-beat, not because of what he does on the floor though, it’s what he does for their pockets.

          2. Doubtful.
            The front office has already said enough.

            They see the same things we do. They understand that Kobe has to move on for the team to grow.

            Why do you think Mitch has said many times —- I think this is Kobe’s last year.

    2. he has to be SF for the future, those 3s will start falling later on, kobe can adjust no matter what

  • Maybe playing small forward isn’t best for Kobe. It’s harder for him to post up opposing SFs so he has to take outside jumpers.

      1. noticed it since the first preseason game. Kobe is mostly stationary in the corner until the play breaks down. That’s not his game. Byron needs to watch film of MJ on Wizards

        1. thats the biggest issue. kobe is not getting the ball tell around the 8-7 sec mark most of the time. at that point all he can do is either shoot the semi open jumper which at this point in hs career is alittle out of his range or he can make a move or two and have to shoot a terrible shot.

          if you game kobe shots like pirce and lance get with the clippers he would still be shooting around 45%

    1. OK…
      So kobe moves to SG and catches flack for limiting Clarkson’s playing time.

      Or Kobe becomes a facilitator, and then catches flack for limiting Russell’s playing time, or not shooting enough.

      Get a grip. Stop whining like a spoiled brat and come to terms. This is Kobe’s last year, and until May you are going to have to accept that he’s going on tour so that his THOUSANDS of fans can see him one last time.

      If you aren’t one of the THOUSANDS you can very easily turn off the TV.

      Do you realize that MILLIONS of people have watched him over the course of his 20 year career? Every basketball from 1988 to 2007 wanted to be Kobe. He’s so well known that he can’t travel to another country without being mobbed. This isn’t about YOU.

      1. i was whining? I still believe he can help the team win. Just giving my opinion on what may be causing his struggles.

        1. Who cares?
          Kobe’s not playing after this year….. And of all the players ever to play, Kobe’s the one who will find a way to improve.

          So you’re sideline critic on Kobe seems A LOT misguided and like a spoiled child complaining that he can’t stand at the water cooler and brag tomorrow.

          1. i only said that maybe the small forward position isn’t suited for Kobe so far. He’s the 2nd greatest SG ever

          2. If it’s not suited for kobe… then where is he going to play?

            Sounds like someone complaining without a solution… or someone complaining just to vent.

          3. Well obviously he has to play sf because he is allowing Russell and Clarkson to play in the backcourt. Just my opinion Kobe would be better playing the sg. But it doesn’t matter since it’s his final year

      2. so in other words you’re saying who cares if we lose games all that matters is kobe farewell tour???

        1. I’m saying it’s an entertainment industry.
          if THOUSANDS of people want to see kobe, then that’s what they get.

          And if the Owners of the team want to do that, we must accept it. Also understand that without Kobe the Lakers would be buried on the back page of every newspaper and lost in irrelevance. Kobe fills the newspapers, stands and makes it possible for you to site here and arrogantly criticize. Without Kobe we’d be talking about Ben Simmons in every post.

          Also, the bottom line is that Kobe playing (or not) doesn’t change the immediate future of this team. So the argument about “player growth” if weak…. Does Russell need 4 more shots every game to miss? If ABrown isn’t ready to be on the bench does it matter he isn’t a starter?

          1. yea the argument “its kobe last year” is much better lol you and cj need kobe rehab

      3. What if it’s not Kobe’s last year though? What if he becomes comfortable with this shot jacking and ball hogging, what if he actually lasts 82 games? What if he thinks he can get Kareem’s record? Could you honestly stomach another season like this one of Kobe Bryant?

          1. Well I can tell you right now, that he may well have a really great game every now and then, but as the season goes on he will not get better, he will get worse as the minutes pile up and the grind goes on. Remember last season when he started breaking down and needed to take games off, that’s exactly what will happen. His joints are probably aching after every game, and the healing takes longer and longer as you age. So unless he has developed reverse ageing technology, things are going to look a lot worse, especially when he actually starts facing the really good teams.

          2. So who cares?
            I’d rather watch Kobe than ABrown. Even if it is old, tired and worn down Kobe.

            Especially since this season is lost anyways and it makes no difference.

          3. I’d rather see both of them play. Kobe doesn’t need to play all these minutes, he should play the first 8 and the last 8. He doesn’t need more than 16 minutes, the fans can watch him play hero ball at the end and he can potentially get the Lakers off to a good start. Then the guys who need to develop can get some serious burn during the middle stages, and if it’s already over before Kobe comes back in down the stretch, who cares? It’s garbage time, the pressure is off and Kobe can play around against some scrubs. Why sacrifice an entire season? There’s likely no draft pick next year, so it’s crucial that these kids log as many minutes as possible, ideally together..

          4. so you want a rusty Kobe who sits for a couple hours to enter for the final 8 minutes???

          5. so you’re basing this off of 6 games, while Kobe hasn’t played real games since January?

          6. I know, I didn’t factor in the fatigue factor which will increase with every game.

          7. He’s trying not to get injured, meaning he is decreasing the actual explosive movements, the anaerobic activity if you will. That doesn’t mean he still isn’t running up and down that hard court as his joints click away with every step.

          8. You are obviously incredibly young if you believe that, or you’ve never actually played organized sport before.

          9. no i know basketball he will get better if he can stay healthy because he will figure out how to attack for this team and the style his team needs him to play

          10. That may well be true, but “his legs will get stronger”. That is an absolute fantasy.

          11. his fg% has been rising every game since the he started at 27% hes up to 32% now because his legs are getting better and hes getting better shots.

          12. That only indicates, the rust factor is coming off, the fatigue factor will start to set in after this. It happened last season too… Kobe was shooting 0.377 in his first 10 games, in the second 10 games he was shooting 0.409, but the next 10 games he was down to 0.342, he started taking games off at this point due to FATIGUE.

          13. no nick came back and helped him get his game back then nick got hurt and the team fell threw

          14. This had nothing to do with Nick, this was pure fatigue, why do you think he had to sit all those games? Stop making excuses and come back to reality.

        1. If the owners of the team want to bring him back, that’s THEIR decision. Much like MWP.

          I support any player currently on the team. Whether or not I agree with the pick is irrelevant.

          1. The owners would bring him back in a heart-beat, not because of what he does on the floor though, it’s what he does for their pockets.

          2. Doubtful.
            The front office has already said enough.

            They see the same things we do. They understand that Kobe has to move on for the team to grow.

            Why do you think Mitch has said many times —- I think this is Kobe’s last year.

    2. he has to be SF for the future, those 3s will start falling later on, kobe can adjust no matter what

          1. he has everything to do with it but if you can’t see that kobe’s mentality does not match his physical ability then idk what to tell you

          2. none of us have said kobe is cappable of carrying this team all we have said is that the coach is making this all worse then it really is.

            at this point in his career kobe could be a 20-4-4 player on about 40-45% shooting for this team

            on a good team he could be a 15-6-5 player on 45-50% shooting

            nothing i said here is wrong

      1. No too much Kobe apologist. Kobe is playing for himself not the LAL. It’s time to develop the young core and his more in the way than helping.

        I wish BS would have the balls to bench him but that will never happen.

    1. No… it’s easy to drown out the noise of tired comments by responding immediately.

      So when you speak, if someone else comes in after you, your voice is nullified.

      I’m just cleaning shop and stopping the anti-kobe people from having the largest contribution and voice in the forum.

      I understand your frustrations with Kobe, but I’m not sure focusing on them is relevant or constructive. It’s kinda like a high school student complaining that his teacher is too hard or mean. — At the end of the day, it’s just noise and doesn’t have any impact on anything.

          1. he has everything to do with it but if you can’t see that kobe’s mentality does not match his physical ability then idk what to tell you

          2. none of us have said kobe is cappable of carrying this team all we have said is that the coach is making this all worse then it really is.

            at this point in his career kobe could be a 20-4-4 player on about 40-45% shooting for this team

            on a good team he could be a 15-6-5 player on 45-50% shooting

            nothing i said here is wrong

      1. No too much Kobe apologist. Kobe is playing for himself not the LAL. It’s time to develop the young core and his more in the way than helping.

        I wish BS would have the balls to bench him but that will never happen.

    1. No… it’s easy to drown out the noise of tired comments by responding immediately.

      So when you speak, if someone else comes in after you, your voice is nullified.

      I’m just cleaning shop and stopping the anti-kobe people from having the largest contribution and voice in the forum.

      I understand your frustrations with Kobe, but I’m not sure focusing on them is relevant or constructive. It’s kinda like a high school student complaining that his teacher is too hard or mean. — At the end of the day, it’s just noise and doesn’t have any impact on anything.

  • Making hotel reservations in Indianapolis right now, to see The Late Great #8, play his last season of NBA basketball as a Laker….It’s been a wonderful 20 years….#Salute K.I.N.G!!!!!

  • Making hotel reservations in Indianapolis right now, to see The Late Great #8, play his last season of NBA basketball as a Laker….It’s been a wonderful 20 years….#Salute K.I.N.G!!!!!

    1. Haha, Simmons actually reminds me a lot of Randle. Just not as strong. Both can play point forward, both need to work on their outside shot. I do like him, but those two might not compliment each other that well until they develop some perimeter shooting. Which I think both guys can, just will take time.

      1. I think Ben Simmons projects as a lockdown defender. LAL young core is too much offense and not nearly enough defense. It’s hard imaging us building a great defense with Clarkson, Russell, Randle and you’re not going to be competitive in the NBA without one.

      2. Hopefully that curse of being called ‘the next LeBron’ doesn’t hold him back like it did for, Beasley, Derrick Williams, Bennett and MKG.

    1. Haha, Simmons actually reminds me a lot of Randle. Just not as strong. Both can play point forward, both need to work on their outside shot. I do like him, but those two might not compliment each other that well until they develop some perimeter shooting. Which I think both guys can, just will take time.

      1. I think Ben Simmons projects as a lockdown defender. LAL young core is too much offense and not nearly enough defense. It’s hard imaging us building a great defense with Clarkson, Russell, Randle and you’re not going to be competitive in the NBA without one.

      2. Hopefully that curse of being called ‘the next LeBron’ doesn’t hold him back like it did for, Beasley, Derrick Williams, Bennett and MKG.

  • SKILLFUL OVERACHIEVER!

    he aint blessed with athletecism(38 inch max vert) compare to MJ(48 max) and Bron(44)

  • SKILLFUL OVERACHIEVER!

    he aint blessed with athletecism(38 inch max vert) compare to MJ(48 max) and Bron(44)

  • So Kobe sucked in his MSG swan song. No surprise there, but he wasn’t the main dude watching the likes of Sideshow Bob getting free rebounds under our basket. Yes, there was a regulat horror show going on there with our purple clad heroes just watching in a petrified state as the opposing players waltzed in for easy boards.

    And WTF was going on the last minute? How can you just give up and call it a game when there’s only a 6p difference??? How nice to see Scott implementing this loser mentality in our young team. Wow, those Tiger Tank engines are really revving up now…

    1. Wasn’t he? Of our front court, Randle with 11 boards, Hibbert with10 and Kobe with 2. If Anthony is grabbing 8 boards would be nice if our front court 3 could do the same. 2 rebounds as a 3 just isn’t going to cut it.

      1. I’m refering to the last qt when Kobe was in his usual “roaming around” mode on D and not close to the basket while others were so out of position that there was always a white jersey closer to the basket… And no, Kobe ain’t gonna bang for boards. He’s too old and will catch the gimmes instead. So it’s up to the the young ones (everyone not named Kobe) to start to do some serious boxing out.

        1. As if it wasn’t obvious that’s not going to get it done. All five players need to box out. They run drills like that in middle school for young players.

          1. Well, it ain’t happening. Just like we won’t see any windmill dunks either from Kobe. Don’t get me wrong, I too would like to see the ENTIRE team leave it all on the floor and doing all the necessary things but it’s just not gonna happen.

  • So Kobe sucked in his MSG swan song. No surprise there, but he wasn’t the main dude watching the likes of Sideshow Bob getting free rebounds under our basket. Yes, there was a regulat horror show going on there with our purple clad heroes just watching in a petrified state as the opposing players waltzed in for easy boards.

    And WTF was going on the last minute? How can you just give up and call it a game when there’s only a 6p difference??? How nice to see Scott implementing this loser mentality in our young team. Wow, those Tiger Tank engines are really revving up now…

    1. Wasn’t he? Of our front court, Randle with 11 boards, Hibbert with10 and Kobe with 2. If Anthony is grabbing 8 boards would be nice if our front court 3 could do the same. 2 rebounds as a 3 just isn’t going to cut it.

      1. I’m refering to the last qt when Kobe was in his usual “roaming around” mode on D and not close to the basket while others were so out of position that there was always a white jersey closer to the basket… And no, Kobe ain’t gonna bang for boards. He’s too old and will catch the gimmes instead. So it’s up to the the young ones (everyone not named Kobe) to start to do some serious boxing out.

        1. As if it wasn’t obvious that’s not going to get it done. All five players need to box out. They run drills like that in middle school for young players.

          1. Well, it ain’t happening. Just like we won’t see any windmill dunks either from Kobe. Don’t get me wrong, I too would like to see the ENTIRE team leave it all on the floor and doing all the necessary things but it’s just not gonna happen.

  • Love or hate Kobe, NBA will never be the same when he retires. Hope he can find enjoyment in his last season even though the Lakers are going to lose a lot of games. Honestly i don’t know what Scott is trying to do with the team. Is it to develop young guys, to make the playoffs or tank. He’s doing a poor job in all aspects.

  • Love or hate Kobe, NBA will never be the same when he retires. Hope he can find enjoyment in his last season even though the Lakers are going to lose a lot of games. Honestly i don’t know what Scott is trying to do with the team. Is it to develop young guys, to make the playoffs or tank. He’s doing a poor job in all aspects.

  • Interesting that Randle sits next to Huertas on the plane. Wonder who sits next to Kobe? Probably his best bud Byron.

  • TO my dear Lakers-loving friends: Stop being Kobe homers. I love Kobe just as much any Laker fan. Just man up and admit that he’s sucking the life out of this team right now. We were 86-80 in the fourth quarter before Kobe went on a 85% usage rate. BS is doing the same right now, he doesn’t have the balls to sit Kobe in the 4th. It’s time to embrace the ugly truth and move on. I rather we lose close games with the kids instead of Kobe jakking up shots.

    1. Sigh where you are today on Kobe; I was there last year but I am over being critical phase of his game and just looking forward to next year.

  • TO my dear Lakers-loving friends: Stop being Kobe homers. I love Kobe just as much any Laker fan. Just man up and admit that he’s sucking the life out of this team right now. We were 86-80 in the fourth quarter before Kobe went on a 85% usage rate. BS is doing the same right now, he doesn’t have the balls to sit Kobe in the 4th. It’s time to embrace the ugly truth and move on. I rather we lose close games with the kids instead of Kobe jakking up shots.

    1. Sigh where you are today on Kobe; I was there last year but I am over being critical phase of his game and just looking forward to next year.

  • Bleacher Report just put an article out about BS’ short comings as a coach. They pretty much nailed this one on the head, too bad Worthy and Magic won’t call out BS.

  • Bleacher Report just put an article out about BS’ short comings as a coach. They pretty much nailed this one on the head, too bad Worthy and Magic won’t call out BS.

  • It looks like we’ll be 1-7 after Wednesday as I don’t think we’ll beat Miami then try and beat Orlando on a back to back after they just beat the Raptors.

  • It looks like we’ll be 1-7 after Wednesday as I don’t think we’ll beat Miami then try and beat Orlando on a back to back after they just beat the Raptors.

  • This quote is dead on:

    “Noah K. Murray-USA TODAY Sports
    If there is one flaw that singularly defines the current state of L.A., it is the lack of instructional governance. From current head coach Byron Scott to his assistants, the sideline leadership is woefully short of talent, imagination and the ability to execute effective game plans.

    It starts with Scott, an old-school practitioner whose tough talk is a poor substitute for coaching acumen.”

  • This quote is dead on:

    “Noah K. Murray-USA TODAY Sports
    If there is one flaw that singularly defines the current state of L.A., it is the lack of instructional governance. From current head coach Byron Scott to his assistants, the sideline leadership is woefully short of talent, imagination and the ability to execute effective game plans.

    It starts with Scott, an old-school practitioner whose tough talk is a poor substitute for coaching acumen.”

  • It is a deal Kobe. I promise to remember you that way. You may retire in peace now, hopefully today..

  • It is a deal Kobe. I promise to remember you that way. You may retire in peace now, hopefully today..

  • Kamenetzky Brothers ‏@KamBrothers 1h1 hour ago
    .@Reloadednow Anybody who thinks reducing Kobe’s minutes to the low 20’s equals “tanking” is in denial about his effectiveness. AK

  • Kamenetzky Brothers ‏@KamBrothers 1h1 hour ago
    .@Reloadednow Anybody who thinks reducing Kobe’s minutes to the low 20’s equals “tanking” is in denial about his effectiveness. AK

  • FollowFunkateer‏@buddahmonk13

    @KamBrothers too many low blows at Kobe

    Kamenetzky Brothers ‏@KamBrothers 47m47 minutes ago

    Kamenetzky Brothers Retweeted Funkateer

    Not a low blow. No 38 year-old w/the equivalent of 22 seasons coming off 3 injuries can play 29 mpg effectively. AK

      1. Followpinche labeouf‏@utookmyhandle

        @wondahbap @KamBrothers the world agrees, but lakers making money off this “farewell tour” and 25mil for 20 mpg on a non-playoff team?

        Kamenetzky Brothers ‏@KamBrothers 4h4 hours ago

        Kamenetzky Brothers Retweeted pinche labeouf

        Fewer minutes theoretically means a more effective, entertaining Kobe, which is more bang for the $. AK

    1. reducing kobe’s minutes might actually give us a better shot at winning some of these games

      1. Need to do more than just that. Kobe needs to allow the kids to be the focal point, ala Paul P. Regardless of the win loss column.

        1. taking away a few shots from kobe and spreading them around could help some of these players build some consistency

  • FollowFunkateer‏@buddahmonk13

    @KamBrothers too many low blows at Kobe

    Kamenetzky Brothers ‏@KamBrothers 47m47 minutes ago

    Kamenetzky Brothers Retweeted Funkateer

    Not a low blow. No 38 year-old w/the equivalent of 22 seasons coming off 3 injuries can play 29 mpg effectively. AK

      1. Followpinche labeouf‏@utookmyhandle

        @wondahbap @KamBrothers the world agrees, but lakers making money off this “farewell tour” and 25mil for 20 mpg on a non-playoff team?

        Kamenetzky Brothers ‏@KamBrothers 4h4 hours ago

        Kamenetzky Brothers Retweeted pinche labeouf

        Fewer minutes theoretically means a more effective, entertaining Kobe, which is more bang for the $. AK

    1. reducing kobe’s minutes might actually give us a better shot at winning some of these games

      1. Need to do more than just that. Kobe needs to allow the kids to be the focal point, ala Paul P. Regardless of the win loss column.

        1. taking away a few shots from kobe and spreading them around could help some of these players build some consistency

          1. Agreed. But for me, it’s not so much about the volume of shots Kobe takes. It’s the flow of the offense. Less ISO from Kobe and everyone. Less wild three point shots by Kobe and everyone. Need more man and ball movement to create easier shots. This is where Scott is failing as he enables Kobe in ISO’s.

  • Doesn’t matter if kobe starts to get his timing back and shots back. We still losing we still back where we were for the last 3 years. It seems they are getting worst every year instead of improving.

    1. As the young guys develop, the team gets better. Especially next year when we can replace Kobe with productive free agents.

  • Doesn’t matter if kobe starts to get his timing back and shots back. We still losing we still back where we were for the last 3 years. It seems they are getting worst every year instead of improving.

    1. As the young guys develop, the team gets better. Especially next year when we can replace Kobe with productive free agents.

  • Gonna miss Kobe. I want to see him play great his last year. Just wish he would play less minutes so he can play all 82 games.

  • Gonna miss Kobe. I want to see him play great his last year. Just wish he would play less minutes so he can play all 82 games.

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