Game Recap: Kobe Bryant Suffers Leg Injury As Lakers Fall To Kings


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Looking to gain some momentum with only 4 games left until the season opener the Lakers traveled to Las Vegas to take on an old rival in the Sacramento Kings. Coming off an impressive victory over Israeli team Maccabi Haifa, the Lakers looked to carry on that momentum against a more formidable foe.

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The Kings are led by DeMarcus Cousins, but he would sit out tonight’s game. The team still has some recognition, however, with forward Rudy Gay and newly-signed point guard Rajon Rondo. The Lakers were 1-3 coming into this game while the Kings were 3-1.

First Quarter

Lakers started the first quarter with a nice flow to their offense, mainly due to Kobe scoring with great efficiency. With DeMarcus Cousins out of the game, the Kings had much less firepower offensively and defensively. Kosta Koufas was placed into the starting unit and had issues controlling the paint allowing the Lakers to score inside with ease. Hitting 4-7 Kobe Bryant lead all scorers in the first quarter with 8 points. Julius Randle continued his strong play he chimed in with 6 points and 2 assists, but despite their offense, the Lakers had issues with defense. They continued to struggle with guard penetration which sparked the Kings offense. The Lakers were continually out of position on defensive rotations and trailed 31-27 at the end of the quarter.

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Second Quarter

The Lakers looked to take control of the game started the second quarter with a 7-0 run. From there the Lakers seemed to lose focus on the defensive end allowing the Kings to score with ease, shooting 50% with 5 minutes left in the half. The team was no longer in control of the lead or the game and fell down 9 points before Coach Scott chose to bring the starters back into the game. Now with the starters back in the game the Lakers continued their lackadaisical play and the bleeding didn’t stop, the Lakers ended the half losing 63-51. The Kings outplayed the Lakers within the first half shooting 54% with 23 rebounds and 15 assists. Jordan Clarkson and Kobe Bryant lead the Lakers with 10 points each however Marco Belinelli was the standout in the game shooting 3-4 from beyond the arc.

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Third Quarter

The third quarter started off no better than the second. A new leak sprung in the Lakers defense and the Kings were scoring in transition to start the third. Kobe Bryant had a injury scare in the 3rd quarter in an isolation post up against Rajon Rondo and was kneed in the calf muscle and was taken out almost immediately to be nursed by the Lakers’ medical staff. The injury was diagnosed as a lower leg contusion and Kobe was ruled out for the rest of the game. Jordan Clarkson continued his strong play, seemingly the only player who could score throughout the 3rd quarter, he became the Lakers leading scorer with 17 points. The quarter ended with the Kings ahead by 14 points 88-74.

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Fourth Quarter

Both teams started off slowly before Lou Williams got out in transition for a three-point play. The Lakers inability to rebound allowed the Kings to remain comfortably ahead until back-to-back baskets from Young and Williams cut the deficit to nine. Williams hit another open three, but the Lakers remained behind by 10. The Lakers had a couple of moments midway through the quarter, particularly thanks to Williams continually getting to the free throw line, but continued failures on the defensive end wouldn’t allow the Lakers to make a major dent in the gap. After a tough James Anderson runner the Lakers trailed by 14 with less than three minutes left. A Bass dunk in transition and a Russell three cut the Kings lead to nine. One last three from Russell gave the final 107-100 margin as the Lakers fell.

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FIRE BYRON SCOTT NOW!!!!

  1. I said it since the start of preseason game, they think am kidding and bullshitting..FIRE BYRON SCOTT NOW.

      1. Ha, I heard that same thing about that Asian point guard last year… I guess we’ve taken an oath not to beat an NBA team until 20 games into preseason and regular season combine.

        1. He’s doing very well in Charlotte so far. He’s still just a back up and now the Lakers have Lou so in that sense it doesn’t matter. It only really matters in how Lin’s experience relates to Russell’s. I refuse to believe that Emmanuel Mudiay is better than D’Angelo Russell. It’s gotten to the point where Russell was only able to shoot a decent FG% in garbage minutes against David Stockton. That’s how far down his confidence has fallen. It’s ridiculous.

        1. Compare how Russell is playing to How Jeremey Lin is playing with the Hornets. Obviously, Lin is not more talented than Russell yet some how he is playing much better than Russell. Then remember how piss poor Lin was playing when he was with the Lakers and it should be obvious that Scott is running down players.

          Now it is true that some players responded better than others. Clarkson and Randle are doing well now, but there are other great players (I’m thinking of a young Chauncey Billups) that wouldn’t do well under Scott.

        2. It was just too much gunning and not enough ball movement in general so nobody was really moving. Russell would throw a bounce pass and they would just kick the ball. The kings did it at least 4 times.

  2. What good would it do at this point?
    Completely changing the offense and philosophy of the team this late into pre-season would bring a very bad season.

    The better Scott does this year, the better opportunity the team has to find a top tier coach in the future.

    Keep in mind, top coaching guys don’t look to assume trainwrecks or rebuilding projects. As such, Scott is a necessary evil until the team gets MUCH closer to being a playoffs team.

    1. There is definitely a problem. Everybody was gunning and not playing any defense. Scott also seems content on letting Russell flounder and that’s what I don’t really like about him.

    2. How was DLo’s court vision tonight? did you notice? I saw him shoot an airball in 1st quarter. only 3 assists?

      1. Do you actually care to read another’s response or are you just going to continue to be sarcastic on every post.

        1. Did you see how Russell’s court vision was vs. Kings? I was only able to see the box score…….totally missed out on seeing his court vision.

        2. I do see your point, to me all the games I watched so far D’lo looked pretty lost to me, but that’s not his fault, it’s obviously Scott’s, he needs to go… like yesterday

  3. Over a preseason loss? lol. He could do a better job, but the PLAYERS have to make an effort to play defense. Doesn’t matter who the coach is, if guys don’t defend.

  4. HERE IS THE PROBLEM….

    The young and the vets don’t seem to blend well…. there seem to be a lack of trust.

    The young guys have potential but they are caught 50-50 being tentative whether to take over or to get the veterans involved. They know they can make play but except for Randle don’t want to see as doing too much. The vets want their touch and jack up shots as soon as balls touch their hands just to get to their shot average. And, the BIGGEST ISSUE is that the vets we have are ball dominating vets. They need dribbles to set up their shots.

    The team needs to decide what is the main objective for this season and who is running the show… to develop the young guys regardless of record? or to savage the season by maximizing the vets? I think the roster cut will be a clear indication.

  • Kobe has to do a better job with getting others involved early on. It doesn’t send a good message to your teammates when you come out straight firing away shots and missing

    1. Kobe didn’t have anything to do with the Lakers Poor Defense and Offensive shooting…….Kobe wasn’t on the floor and they Looked Bad….So stop with the Kobe bashing.

      1. You call that bashing? Kobe shot 4-12 and had zero assists, while taking terrible shots. He wasn’t even looking to pass

        1. They just aren’t thinking logically. You are 100% right, everybody starting gunning when Kobe suddenly became a black hole.

          1. Kobe shouldn’t be taking more than 14-16 shots a game and he takes 12 in the first half. That’s not a winning formula

          2. What do you call a winning formula?…..Kobe is off the floor for a great period of time….what the excuse when he not on the court and the Lakers are looking terrible?….Can’t have it both ways.

          3. When he was the best player in the world that was fine. Now it’s not.

          4. when he shoots a terrible % and his teammates are disengaged. Kobe can’t do it all on his own anymore

          5. So now it’s Kobes fault his teammates were not engaged, according to you. Hilarious.

            Where’s your logic. You make no sense.

          6. It’s easier to point fingers and blame the team’s best player for the struggles instead of knowing it will take time for this team of almost completely new players to get in sink.

            These are the same fans who want Kobe to retire but once he is gone will see just what his presence meant.

            Paytc

          7. I don’t think there is any one that likes the LAKERS more then me , but you cant over look some one that keeps shooting and not making any shots and just say oh its ok, because it is not OK any other player would have been stopped after the 4/5 th straight miss and set down to think about what he was doing, what he was doing was not OK just because it was KOBE.

          8. Well since you and I are not the coach nor is anyone else all we can do is give our opinions.

            It is my opinion first that Kobe Bryant is the best player on the team.
            Next it is my opinion that Kobe has not touched a basketball in 9 months. He only played 6 games two years ago and just 27 games last season.

            I could be wrong but it is my opinion that both Byron Scott and Kobe Bryant want Kobe to shoot as many game time shots as he can to get himself ready to play at a high level at the start of the season.

            It is also my opinion that Kobe Bryant is a scorer, one of the best of all time and scorers tend to shoot more often than others.

            It is my opinion that Stephen Curry and Klay Thompson shot as poorly as Kobe did in their preseason game too.

            It is my opinion that I am a Kobe fan and you are not.

            I tend to specialize in pointing out the positives and what people and players can do. Many take the opposite approach and look to find and point out all of the negatives.

            I’m ok with their right to free speech.

            Go Lakers !

            Paytc

          9. So you think KOBE really helped the team, and that is OK for him to keep firing even if it is destroying the other players , thinking its ok Its KOBE. Kobe his self should think Team first and when he was missing all those shots should have maybe would of looked for open players like the other 4 players are doing like in their last game where they all shared the ball and all scored, not just KOBE.

          10. No I think Kobe is human. He will have good games and not so good games. He will make good decisions at times and bad decisions.

            I also think this is preseason and Kobe is working off the rust of sitting out so long. I also think the team and coach is trying to find out who will make the team and who won’t. The coach is trying to find out what combinations work best. I didn’t see the game but my guess is Kobe didn’t bring the ball up court get open and then pass to himself. My guess is he got open received a pass and truly believed he would knock down the shot. He also knows he will need to take the shots and perhaps miss them now to make them when they count most.

            Paytc

          11. And what about the young guys trying to learn how to play as a team, I guess that does not matter as long as Kobe gets his game straight, even when it is time that is being limited to play and the future of the LAKERS must give up time so Kobe can have shooting time on the court, I do believe 14 future LAKERS players should have the same care as any one on the (TEAM) like I said I am a Laker fan and speaking on their behalf.

          12. the problem is that at this point whether Kobe has good games or bad games (although they are bad now more often than not); it’s his selfish approach the the games that ruin the team’s chemistry.

          13. working off the rust lol. You have your head in the sand if you think Kobe is going to perform any better through the course of the season. Have you been watching him the last two years?

          14. Those opinion are great but my opinion those are excuses, there is not logic there that just because Its KOBE you are posting that.

          15. Well is it my, Kobe’s mom, Kobe’s dad, God’s or Kobe’s fault he is the best player of this era and one of the greatest to ever play the game?

            I’m sorry but Kobe is not the average and ordinary player. Kobe is one of the exceptions like it or not.

            Paytc

          16. I have nothing agents Kobe I have enjoyed watching him grow and become one of the best in NBA history, but please don’t tell me KOBE is that KOBE you know better then that as well as I do, and I am sure he knows that also, so that is my point, he knows better, and should start putting the TEAM ahead of his self and give he next GENERATION OF LAKERS a helping hand and try to go out with a winning season, not a CHAMPIONSHIP that’s not going to happen but with his help he could know he sent them off with a good start by being a great team player.

          17. own him dont worry about him paytc.
            hes doing to you what hes done to me several times before.
            you see it now?

          18. these kids have no idea what they are looking at when they watch a basketball game.

          19. paytc thank you for finally owning that old man!
            im tired of him already….
            thanks!

          20. It does not take much to get you tired out, children are that way- and NO one owns me, I say what I think and so should others, I have no problems with Paytc, never had and I hope I am speaking for both him and I have no problem we both have a different idea on this subject, but there is nothing wrong with that, so if you have anything to say to me , say it to me and don’t hide behind some one else and act like you really like that person speak up.

          21. See attached the only 5 time active Laker champion, Super rich, best of this era, and one of the greatest of all time. What have you done to make your mom, country, girl friend or anyone else proud? LoL…………….. Dam I can’t stop laughing at you and those like you…………LOL………….

            Paytc

          22. Serious question. Have you ever played before? If so you would not ask how others could be disengaged when someone is taking sll of the shots.

          23. Yes I have and we have all seen how one player can energize a team. A good example is Metta.

            Now judging by the way you defend your opinions you strike me as a no excuse type of person. If so, you should be criticising the rest of the team for not doing their job. No excuses.

            To single out a player that only played 13 minutes as the reason for our loss is just plain stupid.

            Why would you follow a person with flawed logic.

          24. Because just like in football, the QB is the leader and he gets the glory and blame. BTW, I did not perceive his first comment as blame or bashing Kobe. It was just a simple and true observation. He did say early on at first. From that point on oversensitive Kobe defenders skewed the context of the conversation. At that point everyone is in defense mode and all objectivity is lost.

          25. 1) Kobe is not the point guard (quarterback ).

            2) How many times did randy post here and what percentage of those posts were focused on blaming Kobe.

            Yeah you don’t have to be a psychologist to determine his agenda.

            3) How can anyone with a reasonable amount of intelligence place the entire blame on a single player that only played 13 minutes total.

            What the heck is that!

          26. This is our impasse. Randys first comment on topic was a simple observation of what he saw. The Truth B told came at him left, oversensitive to critique of Kobe. As I saw it he called Randy for bashing Kobe and every thing from there was a defense mode of lost objectivity. I don’t care about any othr r comments after that first one for that reason alone.

          27. No I can’t be sold on that Daryl.

            But if you believe in that that’s all that should matter to you.

            You know I don’t like Sacres game, and many times it hurts to watch him, but I don’t hate him nor do I go out of my way to promote negativity towards him. That’s beneath me, and he is still a Laker after all. I simply speak my mind and move on.

            Respect and consideration, is that too much to ask of society.

          28. BTW, Kobe is the QB as the clear leader of this team. We all know they follow his lead. Ijs

          29. Did you not advocate that they were ready to go out there into the fire and deserve all starting time within their perspective position. If so why do they need an inefficient 37 year old to mentor them. That’s contradictory.

            And how did those apprentices fair against the kings without that inefficient mentor holding them back?

          30. The apprentice thing was just a metaphorical reference as I’m sure you know. That said they are being groomed to potentially be the next. Keyword, potentially. That means there’s still a learning curve to be navigated before ascensiori. That’s where itstopped for me as I did not delve into the thereafter in critique of the discussion as you seem to be trying to draw me in.

            Why so heavy? This is just the pre-season. SHEESH.

          31. Your in over KILL you are making things worst not better, I don’t understand why others cant have their own option’s, just as you or I do, with out all the dis respect to each other as LAKERS FANS. That is why I don’t try to give my opinions, most of the time and just sit back and watch.

          32. They were down by 18 and came back, with out KOBE because he was not around, he had gone some where, and they did it playing like a team does together.

          33. 18 minutes, and did every thing wrong, while the young and rookie watched every second of it while KOBE PLAYED selfishly, and how did that impact the lives of this group. That’s not the way they learned to play, they learned team ball.

          34. That was an excellent comment ! And if a person can’t admit when they are wrong it’s not even worth continuing the discussion.

            You have to realize there are a few people who want Kobe to retire. They think he has dominated enough and has seen his best days. But that is what you, I, and many others love about Kobe. He keeps doing more with less and exceeding all expectations. He does it against all kinds of resistance from the NBA, shady owners, those that dislike him in the media and elsewhere.

            Here is a salute to all who appreciate all he has given to the NBA, Nike, the Lakers, and the game of basketball world-wide.

            Cheers to Kobe and the Lakers successful return to the top !

            Go Lakers !

            Paytc

          35. DID YOU WATCH THE GAME LOGIC has nothing to do with it, he was out of control which got the whole team messed up. I know your a KOBE fan but you cant over look his faults just because you like him .

          36. im not even gonna get started on them fools above.
            not worth my damn time!
            its precious there a bunch of idiots.

          37. it’s kobes fault that he shot 4-12 and only 28% from 3pt all of last season.

          38. You mean when we are winning its not but when we lose its turn against Kobe time.

            That’s the definition of a bandwagon fan.

            How minutes are there in a game, and how many of those minutes did Kobe play?

            You guys have NO credibility.

          39. thats why i dont bother talking to certain fans.
            attack Kobe because were losing.
            good idea!
            lets all do it…..lol

          40. In case you haven’t noticed, the Lakers don’t “win” games anymore. You they lost 61 games last year alone?

          41. No, I can’t blame Kobe for a loss if he is playing efficient basketball. The problem is he’s not. He only shot 33% from the field. You could chalk that up to a bad game, but he only shot 37% for the whole year last year. So I see it as him falling back into his old “hero ball” pattern instead of just using less energy like he said he would a couple weeks ago.

            So it’s not just about the FG%. It’s the fact that he’s playing in a way that, at 37 years old, he can’t sustain for a whole season. Kobe just needs to catch and shoot and stop over exerting himself like did before the injury.

          42. Had nothing to do with the Lakers bad play tonite….Kobe played about 12 min…..what about the other 36min?….Get Real.

          43. Some of these people will make a million excuses for this man. They are Loyal to Kobe, but Kobe needs to be Loyal to this organization. He will not be back next year.

          44. The Lakers Will suffer when Kobe leave unless they are fortunate to get a Durant …They’ll become irrelevant as the Celtics has been…The FO Knows the only thing keeping them relevant is Kobe…That Fanbase will turn elsewhere …the reciepts will be your next door neighbors…Clippers.

          45. Like it or not, they all get old. Father time is undefeated and life without Kobe is soon inevitable. The youth is being groomed to be next. There’ll never be another Kobe just like Magic could not be replaced. I’m looking forward to who forges their unique niche next.

          46. You may groom the next players but in the process you can lose a Fanbase….This is a Business also….How long is it going to take?…This is a Spoiled fanbase…Lakers always have great players…..Jerry West isn’t here anymore.
            .

          47. Did we lose the fan base in the 90’s? Not one championship in that decade. Only one finalsaappearances, & it was in 91, Magic’s last Showtime season. Patience was a virtue then and it will be now for real fans.

          48. The clippers were not what they were then and didn’t have what it takes to pull the fan base as they can and have done now.

            No comparison.

          49. what difference does it make how many fans the Lakers have? Why not just be a fan if it makes sense to you and who cares about anyone else?

          50. That’s a given for me. All I’m trying to say is these guys are talking bandwagon fandom.

          51. The Lakers will always have a good FAN BASE. They came the last three years as bad as they were, real fans will come to see the LAKERS and the next LEADER OF THEM nothing is going to change. At least not with me. and millions of other FANS.

          52. true but i lasted from 2002 to 2009 7 without a title and then 2010 until now another 5 years. thats 12 years straight with no winning.
            real fans dont run when things get tough thats true…….

          53. But in the meantime the Kobe bashing clowns need to stop.

            And once we find our Kobe replacement and they are not satisfied, I don’t want to hear their b itching.

          54. Who’s bashing him? Randy simply pointed real deficiencies in his game tonight. There’s nothing wrong with pointing that out when it happens. That’s not bashing. Some folks need to check their sensitivity levels. IJS

          55. Kobe played 13 minutes. If a person is fixated on blaming one individual for a team loss in which he played only 13 minutes IS BASHING!

            Out of all his posts in this thread , how many of them are about blaming Kobe.

            Let’s not attempt to mask what it is.

            You should exercise better judgement who you back up on here because don’t think they will do the same for you. Remember that.

          56. If you refuse to see it that’s on you.

            You want to put yourself out on a limb and stake your reputation for a guy with flawed logic, that’s your call and your right to do so.

          57. I’m not here to forge digital alliances. If I agree with something I read and speak on it that’s it. If I’m cool with someone, cool. As I’m sure you can tell I have no problem entertaining a friendly debate. Msny times we won’t see eye to eye and that’s cool to.

          58. And I can appreciate having a LOGICAL discussion with someone like you even when we don’t see eye to eye. I am always receptive to learning.

            I can not however, tolerate people with malicious motives, flawed logic, or hidden agenda.

          59. Great player haters see things the same just as non haters do.

            Just let them enjoy the misery alone. Hit them with one or two comments and move on. Hate is a disease that many can’t see and can’t shake.

            Paytc

          60. Lakers Lifer, we have been friends so I feel that I can say you that not every one thinks and feels like you do and we all e the rights to say whats on our minds, that is what LAKERS NATION is a gathering of LAKERS FANS who should be able to say how they saw things , with out fighting each other over some thing that we cant control– the way I see it it is TO EACH HIS OWN.

          61. That’s not a secret to any one who watched the game, putting your head in the sand changes nothing, no matter how much one wants it to.

          62. I guess since Steph Curry 5/13 and Klay Thompson 1/8 shot as poorly as Kobe they must be old? I guess when Randle broke his leg and was out for the season it was because he was old?

            While many of us are rooting for Kobe your very words say “Like it or not, they all get old. Father time is undefeated and life without Kobe is soon inevitable. The youth is being groomed to be next”. lets kick dirt on him he’s finished.

            It would be nice if people just were as truthful as the people who support Kobe are. But so many dislike the man for whatever reason and pretend to like him then look for reasons to knock him and most of all want him to retire.

            But he will decide when he is finish playing not haters, doubter, bandwagon busters, fake fans (who smile in his face all the time hating him),critics, or anyone else.

            Go Kobe ! Go Lakers !

            Paytc

          63. Please note I had no further comment so whoever responded in my defense most likely and had their comment deleted was not my comment.

            Paytc

          64. those guys will have good games much more consistently than Kobe this stage of his career. Just look back at the last few years and you know.

          65. And when they are finish with their career they will have 6 or 7 championships and go down in history as one of the all time greatest too right? LOL………. dam I can’t stop laughing at you and those like you LOL………….. LOL…………

            Go Lakers !

            Paytc

          66. I’m not saying for Kobe to leave. Just to not over-exert himself. He blew right by Rondo with basically the same move Carmelo did the night before. Kobe has too many miles on his legs to do stuff like that and stay healthy. He just needs to catch and shoot, use picks, and pass out of double teams instead of trying to juke his way out of them.

            Take good shots, be efficient. He knows, but the problem is that he doesn’t trust his teammates.

          67. WELL it was not real bright to put him back at the 2 spot, when BS knows that the 3 spot is where KOBE should be where he can work close to the rim , as they did in the game before, and they all played together it makes n o sense to find a working team and the next game change things all around.

          68. Ok no guard had played 21 seasons so i know kobe not and shouldnt come back mext year

          69. I give Kobe all the credit the world for being as good as he was for as long as he was, but now it’s time for him to stop exerting himself like he is 24 years old. He blew by Rondo like he was 24. Didn’t hook him or nothing. It was a sweet move, but he can’t keep doing that and stay healthy.

          70. Classic apologist. No one’s bashing Kobe. There’s a thing called observing and giving constructive criticism.

          71. Ok how about criticizing the team’s overall play and defensive effort? How about giving Kobe some credit for helping the team get off to a good start?

            Kobe will always take shots and he will continue to be streaky. But blaming the best player on the team is just ridiculous if the credit and blame aren’t shared.

            I didn’t see the game but my guess is Kobe was not bringing the ball up court. Kobe probably got himself open and shot the balls that were passed to him when he believed he could make them.

            Paytc

          72. Not as I saw it SORRY some one did not watch the game, or forgot to take his head out of the sand.

          73. That’s fine and many have done that. But that does not mean an observation of what happened early on with Kobe on the floor, be it positive or negative is off limits. Again, each of us sees things in our own unique way.

          74. We know there are many great player haters in the world.

            You didn’t have to point that fact out to me of all people. I bash the great player haters for bashing great players like I get paid for it.

            Steph Curry and Klay Thompson are two of the best shooters in the world and here was their preseason game stats tonight……..

            Steph Curry made 5/13 shots and Klay Thompson made 1/8 shots.
            Neither one of them shot any better than Kobe. So what can you haters say that would make the hate sound credible?

            Paytc

          75. Excuse me they are last season CHAMPIONS, until some one takes it away from them.

          76. Do you know you are the only one using the word HATER, and that is not realistic that ever one but you is a HATER I am not one and many others are not, you know HATE runs in two directions, but you are the only one using that word, that could be seen a weakness to try and prove a point, that is not correct.

          77. I gotta call them what they are even when it’s not popular to do so when they make it so obvious.

            When you consistently have only negative comments about one player or the coach in general, you are hating on that person for some reason. So I wouldn’t call the person a lover.

            Paytc

          78. Don’t pick and choose a single player to blame. The entire team should be held accountable especially when the player being bashed only played 13 minutes.

          79. Like you said you did not see the game so your talking about things you know nothing of, and your doing everything guessing, and telling others they are wrong, don’t you think your pushing it a little to much , that’s just my guess ,

          80. I call the guys your backing great player haters and apparently your one too if you agree with them. Because the man hurt his leg out there battling for this team as he has for 20 years. Instead of showing him some concern and compassion you choose to criticize/critic/bash him?

            You all should be hoping he returns healthy but instead many of you haters want him to retire. Just wait and see what you lose when he is gone. He is one of the best to ever play and he is still capable of playing at a high level. I know many of you can’t stand it. But you gotta deal with it anyway.

            Kobe many of us and all true great player and basketball fans want to see you and the Lakers return to the top.

            Go Kobe ! Go Lakers !

          81. You’re doing too much. And TBH, I don’t care what I’m called. This was just a simple critique of early performance in the flow of the game. Lines got crossed in personal feelings, in translation. I don’t have time for all of that. I state my opinion and be done with it.

          82. Your right and our feeling and words speak volumes about our character.

            We will agree on some things and dis agree on others. Have a good night. And send a few well wishes or good thoughts out to Lamar Odom.

            Paytc

          83. You are within your right. Where is your friend randy all this time you have been defending HIS posts Daryl???

            Remember what I asked you to remember earlier. Just saying !

          84. I see you already forgot what I said about not being here to forge digital alliances. Randy is not my friend. I don’t know him. I agreed with his first assessment of early on, That’s all.

          85. Here again your putting feelings before knowledge, Kobe hurt his leg (ok we will say that) the next thing that came out was he could not walk on it , (BUT) shortly later he was seen going to the HOSP. in a TAXI TO see how ODOM was walking OK with no problems.

          86. include me paytc i love Kobe!
            i hope he dominates this year and shows them whats really good…

          87. that’s how he always plays…….don’t let a W over Maccabi go to your head, lol. Bryant iis washed up.

          88. There is a difference when you start out in the hole and have to catch up there is such a thing called TEAM PLAY- one man out of control can hurt a team.

          89. Kobe should be playing the 3 spot less running, closer to the rim is his game now, when I saw he was starting @ the 2 I new that was bad, that is not where he belongs and it changed the whole rotation from the game the game before which the team looked good and played good and we had ball movement.

          90. So what’s the excuse you are going to give when Kobe wasn’t in the game ?

        2. Kobe shot 4-12…The team shot even Worse…..No defense…Got nothing to do with Kobe shooting 4-12.

          1. Kobe set the tone right from the beginning. He needs to get others involved early on. When he goes into hero ball mode his teammates give less effort on both ends

          2. Kobe made his 1st 3 shots so he did set the tone…the others were the one who didn’t follow ….Kobe play roughly 12min….why can’t a team with other vets set the tone the other 36mins?….Stop looking for someone to blame.

          3. Kobe needs to think for others, Kobe needs to make miracles.

            You get on people’s nerves with that ignorance.

          4. It was Kobe’s 4-7 that kept the team in the game. Kobe needs to shoot to work himself back into high level game condition. Shooting has always been one of the best parts of Kobe’s game and that won’t change.

            Those who don’t like him will blame him whenever they can. Just like those who enjoy great players will back him through his good, not so good, and great performances. Kobe is human. He will continue to have good, not so good, and great performances. Once he shakes the rust off and gets his rhythm going the good will out weigh the not so good, and the great will rise above all.

            Go Kobe ! GO Lakers !

            Paytc

          5. Exactly. Lakers fans who know basketball and know Kobe should know this.

            The casual fans won’t.

          6. Steph Curry and Klay Thompson are two of the best shooters in the world and here was their preseason game stats tonight……..

            Steph Curry made 5/13 shots and Klay Thompson made 1/8 shots.

            Neither one of them shot any better than Kobe. So what can these haters say that would make their hate sound credible?

            And their pure shooters ! Kobe Bryant is a scorer ! Scorers usually have to shoot higher volumes of shots to get into a rhythm. Not to mention with Kobe being away from the game 9 months and only playing 6 games in the season two years ago and only 27 last year he has to shoot and condition himself back to play at a high level. He has an excuse but he is not making one. He will just make it up on the next play or next game.

            But I am worried about Lamar Odom more than I am any of theses great player haters.

            Thoughts,Prayers and well wishes go out to Lamar and all his loved ones.

            Paytc

          7. Steph Curry and Klay Thompson are two of the best shooters in the world and here was their preseason game stats tonight……..

            Steph Curry made 5/13 shots and Klay Thompson made 1/8 shots.

            Neither one of them shot any better than Kobe. So what can these haters say that would make their hate sound credible?

            The title of this thread is “Kobe suffers leg injury as the Lakers fall to Kings.”

            But instead of showing the player who has worked harder and longer than any Laker in history they choose to look for his faults and knock him when he is down.

            Our very words say a lot about our character.

            My prayers go out to Lamar Odom as he is fighting for his life.

            Paytc

          8. Kobe shot 33 % and as a team at the end of the game the team shot 43 %how did they do that shooting worst ?

        3. Kobe didnt plau long enough. A few days ago lebton was 3 for 13 so relax its pre season, kobe knows what hes duin

        4. So how did the team do when Kobe wasnt playing Randy.

          Are you going to blame him for that too.

          Quit your Kobe bashing, it’s not a good look for you.

        5. Kobe started off shooting pretty well as he was 4-7 then apparently he missed the next 5. But Kobe has always been and will always be a scorer. He is also a rhythm shooter not a pure shooter.

          He will most likely continue to shoot and be streaky. That is what he does. And it helped the team win championships.

          Defense appears to be the biggest problem and of course trust, confidence and team chemistry. When you have so many new players and different rotations it will take time to get on the same page.

          Lets hope they can pull it together early in the season while the schedule is not too hard.

          And why were people so quite and/or optimistic when they beat the non NBA team but so negative and pessimistic with the loss?

          It’s preseason and every team we play has better chemistry and more return starters. Get used to the ups and downs.

          Or keep being finger pointing band wagon fans.

          Go Lakers !

          Paytc

          1. They act like Kobe has not been away from the game for 9 months. Sounds like a few buck passing excuse making idiots to me. If they don’t see the value the best player on the team and one of the best in the league means.

            You really have to ignore them because they are not Kobe fans and many are the opposite, Kobe haters. They are quite as a church mouse when Kobe has a great game and can’t wait to blame him when he doesn’t. I don’t give busters respect or credibility.

            Paytc

          2. Well said, as usual PAYTC, but can you believe the logic of the ignorant Kobe blamers?

            I can’t belive the ignorance.

          3. Just read my post below to Meleke lewis.

            As I said there are several Kobe haters on board who will never credit him for anything and blame him for all of the team’s struggles. They have no credibility and just need to knock someone who has accomplished far more than they ever will be able to in hopes to feel better about their own accomplishments. Or lack there of.

            We know the value of Kobe. So does the front office, the coach, and his team mates.

            Paytc

      2. Stop being over protective. You can’t hide his FG percentage and he missed every three point shot he took.

        1. It’s reality……the Lakers didn’t play that We’ll with Kobe Off the Court…..They looked terrible…So don’t put that on Kobe……

          1. It’s one thing to lose games, but when he benches Russell he is putting Kupchak’s job at risk because now Kupchak’s judgement is being called into question. The fact that Kupchak took Russell will be a sore spot if he is a bust.

        2. Who made every 3 point shot they took.

          What went wrong when Kobe was not playing? Who do you blame for that..Kobe too?

      3. kobe scored 10 points on 4-12 fg. 0 assists.1 rebound, 1 turnover. the black mamba is back!! lol

      4. Didn’t even get to watch the game but i was keeping up play by play on the nba site and i was seeing Kobe take a lot of shots early and i was like ok Kobe slow down man, KB has to trust his team mates this is a far better team than we had last year and once Kobe feels in his mind like he is the 07 Kobe he reverts back to trying to carry the team or play like he is the old Kobe, for example if Rondo is a smaller guy why would you try to go past him when you can back him down and do your patten fade away jumper he can’t block it anyway and thats how he got hurt, you have a young Clarkson who has youth and can attack the basket you seen how great Clarkson played when Kobe left, find a way to get him involved or Randle. But Kobe does not deserve all of the blame its just he has to stop thinking he is the old Kobe or we will lose a lot of games once Kobe make a few shots he thinks he is the old Kobe, he shuts out his team mates and just go back to playing Los Angeles Kobes and gets hurt. I don’t think B.Scott deserve that much blame either the team is not playing defense they have to be more physical and when they are not Metta deserves more minutes because he gets it all started.

        1. You need to watch the game. Allot of what you suggest is indeed what Kobe did.

          He only played 13 minutes. What analogy and advise would you have for the rest of the other players?

      5. He’s right but that’s what’s going to happen when D’angelo doesn’t start. He is the only playmaker kobe really respects enough to take the ball out of his own hands.

      6. If you take time to see the stats (and I am not a stats guy) but their shooting % was only 2 1/2 % in their favor but out 3 s were much better and we beat them in every other stat, except the final score, we did not look good but neither did they just a few more points is all it takes, we came back from 18 down, and that was with KOBE missing, so we did not do bad just not enough.

        1. Which goes to show you Stats can be Mis-leading….That game was worse than that Final score says……Their 3rd strings was playing vs some of the Lakers starters…..No moral victory in that.

    2. His job isn’t to facilitate, that’s Clarkson and Russell’s job. It takes a lot of energy to do all of that, and his needs to be conserved to preserve his health. Stop it.

        1. Did you somehow think that Kobe would forget that he’s Kobe Bryant?

          And despite all the negativity that you want to speak, he still lead the team in scoring until he was benched.

          Kobe’s gonna be Kobe.
          Accept it.

          1. Kobe was not playing well. He shot well at first because nobody was expecting him to play like he did, but as soon as he starting playing hero ball the doubles starting coming and he was chucking up bad shots.

          2. Who cares about leading in scoring if you shoot 33%. That’s what happened last season

          3. Did it make any difference?

            Kobe can shoot 33% or ABrown can shoot 33%.
            or Russell…
            or Young…

            With or without Kobe this team isn’t getting more than 35 wins. There is no silver bullet bro.

            Sit back and enjoy the ride.

          4. And see that’s the problem. You don’t care if Kobe shoots 33% from the field just as long as it’s Kobe. If Russell is shooting 33% at least he is learning. Russell is the future.

            If they not going to make the playoffs they need to focus on developing Russell because his confidence is completely shot.

          5. No.
            I accept that NO Lakers player is going to shoot better than 33% at the SF position and that in the big picture it really makes no difference.

            I accept that this is a 35 win team and that this year’s main focus is to give Russell, Randle, and Clarkson 30+ minutes per night and hope that they can grow to become better players for the future.

            Russell is shooting like garbage and isn’t playing anything better than a bench guy. And somehow you forgot that he’s a guard.

            Maybe Russell’s confidence is shot because he’s a rookie and the learning curve for the game’s toughest position is a bit harder than he and his ego expected?

          6. Kobe did start at the SG position in the last game, but I’m not saying they are competing for playing time. I am saying that Russell needs the room to fail and not be worried about losing playing time over it. They invested too much into that kid with a top pick to just see him flounder like that.

            He is playing garbage minutes right now against the likes of David Stockton. If Scott gives Russell 30+ minutes and he fails then I can’t blame Scott. However, if Russell is constantly worried about his position and doesn’t have any room to fail (learn) then I blame Scott 100% for that.

      1. That’s what Kobe said, but Kobe did way too much in that last game. That’s why he got injured. He should have passed that ball off because the help was right behind Rondo when he made his move.

    3. first qtr, 4/11+ 0/4 from behind the line and shot 25 % of the LAKERS Shots, he needs to stay @ the 3, putting him back at the SG was the first mistake of the night, CLARKSON should play SG ,CLARKSON never did get a chance to get his rhythm, the whole team was out sync,

    1. I said it since the start of preseason game, they think am kidding and bullshitting..FIRE BYRON SCOTT NOW.

        1. Ha, I heard that same thing about that Asian point guard last year… I guess we’ve taken an oath not to beat an NBA team until 20 games into preseason and regular season combine.

          1. He’s doing very well in Charlotte so far. He’s still just a back up and now the Lakers have Lou so in that sense it doesn’t matter. It only really matters in how Lin’s experience relates to Russell’s. I refuse to believe that Emmanuel Mudiay is better than D’Angelo Russell. It’s gotten to the point where Russell was only able to shoot a decent FG% in garbage minutes against David Stockton. That’s how far down his confidence has fallen. It’s ridiculous.

          1. Compare how Russell is playing to How Jeremey Lin is playing with the Hornets. Obviously, Lin is not more talented than Russell yet some how he is playing much better than Russell. Then remember how piss poor Lin was playing when he was with the Lakers and it should be obvious that Scott is running down players.

            Now it is true that some players responded better than others. Clarkson and Randle are doing well now, but there are other great players (I’m thinking of a young Chauncey Billups) that wouldn’t do well under Scott.

          2. It was just too much gunning and not enough ball movement in general so nobody was really moving. Russell would throw a bounce pass and they would just kick the ball. The kings did it at least 4 times.

    2. What good would it do at this point?
      Completely changing the offense and philosophy of the team this late into pre-season would bring a very bad season.

      The better Scott does this year, the better opportunity the team has to find a top tier coach in the future.

      Keep in mind, top coaching guys don’t look to assume trainwrecks or rebuilding projects. As such, Scott is a necessary evil until the team gets MUCH closer to being a playoffs team.

      1. There is definitely a problem. Everybody was gunning and not playing any defense. Scott also seems content on letting Russell flounder and that’s what I don’t really like about him.

      2. How was DLo’s court vision tonight? did you notice? I saw him shoot an airball in 1st quarter. only 3 assists?

        1. Do you actually care to read another’s response or are you just going to continue to be sarcastic on every post.

          1. Did you see how Russell’s court vision was vs. Kings? I was only able to see the box score…….totally missed out on seeing his court vision.

          2. I do see your point, to me all the games I watched so far D’lo looked pretty lost to me, but that’s not his fault, it’s obviously Scott’s, he needs to go… like yesterday

    3. Over a preseason loss? lol. He could do a better job, but the PLAYERS have to make an effort to play defense. Doesn’t matter who the coach is, if guys don’t defend.

    4. HERE IS THE PROBLEM….

      The young and the vets don’t seem to blend well…. there seem to be a lack of trust.

      The young guys have potential but they are caught 50-50 being tentative whether to take over or to get the veterans involved. They know they can make play but except for Randle don’t want to see as doing too much. The vets want their touch and jack up shots as soon as balls touch their hands just to get to their shot average. And, the BIGGEST ISSUE is that the vets we have are ball dominating vets. They need dribbles to set up their shots.

      The team needs to decide what is the main objective for this season and who is running the show… to develop the young guys regardless of record? or to savage the season by maximizing the vets? I think the roster cut will be a clear indication.

  • Kobe has to do a better job with getting others involved early on. It doesn’t send a good message to your teammates when you come out straight firing away shots and missing

    1. Kobe didn’t have anything to do with the Lakers Poor Defense and Offensive shooting…….Kobe wasn’t on the floor and they Looked Bad….So stop with the Kobe bashing.

      1. You call that bashing? Kobe shot 4-12 and had zero assists, while taking terrible shots. He wasn’t even looking to pass

        1. They just aren’t thinking logically. You are 100% right, everybody starting gunning when Kobe suddenly became a black hole.

          1. Kobe shouldn’t be taking more than 14-16 shots a game and he takes 12 in the first half. That’s not a winning formula

          2. What do you call a winning formula?…..Kobe is off the floor for a great period of time….what the excuse when he not on the court and the Lakers are looking terrible?….Can’t have it both ways.

          3. When he was the best player in the world that was fine. Now it’s not.

          4. when he shoots a terrible % and his teammates are disengaged. Kobe can’t do it all on his own anymore

          5. So now it’s Kobes fault his teammates were not engaged, according to you. Hilarious.

            Where’s your logic. You make no sense.

          6. It’s easier to point fingers and blame the coach or team’s best player for the struggles instead of knowing it will take time for this team of almost completely new players to get in sink.

            These are the same fans who want Kobe to retire but once he is gone will see just what his presence meant.

            Paytc

          7. I don’t think there is any one that likes the LAKERS more then me , but you cant over look some one that keeps shooting and not making any shots and just say oh its ok, because it is not OK any other player would have been stopped after the 4/5 th straight miss and set down to think about what he was doing, what he was doing was not OK just because it was KOBE.

          8. Well since you and I are not the coach nor is anyone else all we can do is give our opinions. The coach will decide what is ok, not us fans.

            It is my opinion first that Kobe Bryant is the best player on the team.
            Next it is my opinion that Kobe has not touched a basketball in 9 months. He only played 6 games two years ago and just 27 games last season.

            I could be wrong but it is my opinion that both Byron Scott and Kobe Bryant want Kobe to shoot as many game time shots as he can to get himself ready to play at a high level at the start of the season.

            It is also my opinion that Kobe Bryant is a scorer, one of the best of all time. And scorers tend to shoot more often than other players do.

            It is my opinion that Stephen Curry and Klay Thompson shot as poorly as Kobe did in their preseason game too.

            Steph Curry and Klay Thompson are two of the best shooters in the world and here was their preseason game stats tonight……..
            Steph Curry made 5/13 shots and Klay Thompson made 1/8 shots.
            Neither one of them shot any better than Kobe. So what can any hater say that would make their hate sound credible?

            Nothing….. that’s right nothing.

            It is my opinion that I am a Kobe fan and you are not.
            It is my opinion that I like good, fair, and great players.
            It is my opinion that you only like what you consider to be “team” players.

            You would prefer to handcuff great players while I like to let them play.

            I tend to specialize in pointing out the positives and what people and players can do. Many take the opposite approach and look to find and point out all of the negatives.

            I’m ok with their right to free speech. However………

            I often disagree with them especially when I feel their opinion is personal and/or filled with a hateful tone or aimed in one player’s direction.

            Go Lakers !

            Paytc

          9. So you think KOBE really helped the team, and that is OK for him to keep firing even if it is destroying the other players , thinking its ok Its KOBE. Kobe his self should think Team first and when he was missing all those shots should have maybe would of looked for open players like the other 4 players are doing like in their last game where they all shared the ball and all scored, not just KOBE.

          10. No, I think Kobe is human. He will have good games and not so good games. He will make good decisions at times and bad decisions.

            I also think this is preseason and Kobe is working off the rust of sitting out so long. I also think the team and coach is trying to find out who will make the team and who won’t. The coach is trying to find out what combinations work best. I didn’t see the game but my guess is Kobe didn’t bring the ball up court get open and then pass to himself. My guess is he got open received a pass and truly believed he would knock down the shot. He also knows he will need to take the shots and perhaps miss them now to make them when they count most.

            Paytc

          11. And what about the young guys trying to learn how to play as a team, I guess that does not matter as long as Kobe gets his game straight, even when it is time that is being limited to play and the future of the LAKERS must give up time so Kobe can have shooting time on the court, I do believe 14 future LAKERS players should have the same care as any one on the (TEAM) like I said I am a Laker fan and speaking on their behalf.

          12. the problem is that at this point whether Kobe has good games or bad games (although they are bad now more often than not); it’s his selfish approach the the games that ruin the team’s chemistry.

          13. working off the rust lol. You have your head in the sand if you think Kobe is going to perform any better through the course of the season. Have you been watching him the last two years?

          14. Those opinion are great but my opinion those are excuses, there is not logic there that just because Its KOBE you are posting that.

          15. Well is it my, Kobe’s mom, Kobe’s dad, God, or Kobe’s fault he is the best player of this era and one of the greatest to ever play the game?

            I’m sorry but Kobe is not the average and ordinary player. Kobe is one of the exceptions like it or not.

            He didn’t shoot any more often or poorly than Steph Curry or Klay Thompson. So learn to live with it or continue to be miserable.

            Paytc

          16. I have nothing agents Kobe I have enjoyed watching him grow and become one of the best in NBA history, but please don’t tell me KOBE is that KOBE you know better then that as well as I do, and I am sure he knows that also, so that is my point, he knows better, and should start putting the TEAM ahead of his self and give he next GENERATION OF LAKERS a helping hand and try to go out with a winning season, not a CHAMPIONSHIP that’s not going to happen but with his help he could know he sent them off with a good start by being a great team player.

          17. own him dont worry about him paytc.
            hes doing to you what hes done to me several times before.
            you see it now?

          18. these kids have no idea what they are looking at when they watch a basketball game.

          19. paytc thank you for finally owning that old man!
            im tired of him already….
            thanks!

          20. It does not take much to get you tired out, children are that way- and NO one owns me, I say what I think and so should others, I have no problems with Paytc, never had and I hope I am speaking for both him and I have no problem we both have a different idea on this subject, but there is nothing wrong with that, so if you have anything to say to me , say it to me and don’t hide behind some one else and act like you really like that person speak up.

          21. See attached the only 5 time active Laker champion, Super rich, best of this era, and one of the greatest of all time. What have you done to make your mom, country, girl friend or anyone else proud? LoL…………….. Dam I can’t stop laughing at you and those like you…………LOL………….

            Paytc

          22. Serious question. Have you ever played before? If so you would not ask how others could be disengaged when someone is taking sll of the shots.

          23. Yes I have and we have all seen how one player can energize a team. A good example is Metta.

            Now judging by the way you defend your opinions you strike me as a no excuse type of person. If so, you should be criticising the rest of the team for not doing their job. No excuses.

            To single out a player that only played 13 minutes as the reason for our loss is just plain stupid.

            Why would you follow a person with flawed logic.

          24. Because just like in football, the QB is the leader and he gets the glory and blame. BTW, I did not perceive his first comment as blame or bashing Kobe. It was just a simple and true observation. He did say early on at first. From that point on oversensitive Kobe defenders skewed the context of the conversation. At that point everyone is in defense mode and all objectivity is lost.

          25. 1) Kobe is not the point guard (quarterback ).

            2) How many times did randy post here and what percentage of those posts were focused on blaming Kobe.

            Yeah you don’t have to be a psychologist to determine his agenda.

            3) How can anyone with a reasonable amount of intelligence place the entire blame on a single player that only played 13 minutes total.

            What the heck is that!

          26. This is our impasse. Randys first comment on topic was a simple observation of what he saw. The Truth B told came at him left, oversensitive to critique of Kobe. As I saw it he called Randy for bashing Kobe and every thing from there was a defense mode of lost objectivity. I don’t care about any othr r comments after that first one for that reason alone.

          27. No I can’t be sold on that Daryl.

            But if you believe in that that’s all that should matter to you.

            You know I don’t like Sacres game, and many times it hurts to watch him, but I don’t hate him nor do I go out of my way to promote negativity towards him. That’s beneath me, and he is still a Laker after all. I simply speak my mind and move on.

            Respect and consideration, is that too much to ask of society.

          28. BTW, Kobe is the QB as the clear leader of this team. We all know they follow his lead. Ijs

          29. Did you not advocate that they were ready to go out there into the fire and deserve all starting time within their perspective position. If so why do they need an inefficient 37 year old to mentor them. That’s contradictory.

            And how did those apprentices fair against the kings without that inefficient mentor holding them back?

          30. The apprentice thing was just a metaphorical reference as I’m sure you know. That said they are being groomed to potentially be the next. Keyword, potentially. That means there’s still a learning curve to be navigated before ascensiori. That’s where itstopped for me as I did not delve into the thereafter in critique of the discussion as you seem to be trying to draw me in.

            Why so heavy? This is just the pre-season. SHEESH.

          31. Your in over KILL you are making things worst not better, I don’t understand why others cant have their own option’s, just as you or I do, with out all the dis respect to each other as LAKERS FANS. That is why I don’t try to give my opinions, most of the time and just sit back and watch.

          32. They were down by 18 and came back, with out KOBE because he was not around, he had gone some where, and they did it playing like a team does together.

          33. 18 minutes, and did every thing wrong, while the young and rookie watched every second of it while KOBE PLAYED selfishly, and how did that impact the lives of this group. That’s not the way they learned to play, they learned team ball.

          34. That was an excellent comment ! And if a person can’t admit when they are wrong it’s not even worth continuing the discussion.

            You have to realize there are a few people who want Kobe to retire.

            They think he has dominated enough and has seen his best days. They want Kobe (the best player) to take a back seat.(what a joke)

            Let the less capable and least experience lead the most capable and most experienced? Yeah right……

            But that is what you, I, and many others love about Kobe.

            He does what others “can’t ” do. Many envy him for that ability.

            He keeps doing more with less and exceeding all expectations.

            He does it against all kinds of resistance from the NBA, shady owners, those that dislike him in the media and elsewhere.

            He’s winning anyway ! You and I know the Lakers need his leadership to help the team return back to the top.

            We don’t want to wait decades like the Chicago Bulls and Raiders.

            Here is a salute to all who appreciate all he has given to the NBA, Nike, the Lakers, and the game of basketball world-wide.

            Kobe, a 20 year Laker.

            Thank you Kobe ! You are very much appreciated by most Laker fans.

            Cheers to Kobe and the Lakers successful return to the top !

            Go Lakers !

            Paytc

          35. DID YOU WATCH THE GAME LOGIC has nothing to do with it, he was out of control which got the whole team messed up. I know your a KOBE fan but you cant over look his faults just because you like him .

          36. im not even gonna get started on them fools above.
            not worth my damn time!
            its precious there a bunch of idiots.

          37. it’s kobes fault that he shot 4-12 and only 28% from 3pt all of last season.

          38. You mean when we are winning its not but when we lose its turn against Kobe time.

            That’s the definition of a bandwagon fan.

            How minutes are there in a game, and how many of those minutes did Kobe play?

            You guys have NO credibility.

          39. thats why i dont bother talking to certain fans.
            attack Kobe because were losing.
            good idea!
            lets all do it…..lol

          40. In case you haven’t noticed, the Lakers don’t “win” games anymore. You they lost 61 games last year alone?

          41. No, I can’t blame Kobe for a loss if he is playing efficient basketball. The problem is he’s not. He only shot 33% from the field. You could chalk that up to a bad game, but he only shot 37% for the whole year last year. So I see it as him falling back into his old “hero ball” pattern instead of just using less energy like he said he would a couple weeks ago.

            So it’s not just about the FG%. It’s the fact that he’s playing in a way that, at 37 years old, he can’t sustain for a whole season. Kobe just needs to catch and shoot and stop over exerting himself like did before the injury.

          42. Had nothing to do with the Lakers bad play tonite….Kobe played about 12 min…..what about the other 36min?….Get Real.

          43. Some of these people will make a million excuses for this man. They are Loyal to Kobe, but Kobe needs to be Loyal to this organization. He will not be back next year.

          44. The Lakers Will suffer when Kobe leave unless they are fortunate to get a Durant …They’ll become irrelevant as the Celtics has been…The FO Knows the only thing keeping them relevant is Kobe…That Fanbase will turn elsewhere …the reciepts will be your next door neighbors…Clippers.

          45. Like it or not, they all get old. Father time is undefeated and life without Kobe is soon inevitable. The youth is being groomed to be next. There’ll never be another Kobe just like Magic could not be replaced. I’m looking forward to who forges their unique niche next.

          46. You may groom the next players but in the process you can lose a Fanbase….This is a Business also….How long is it going to take?…This is a Spoiled fanbase…Lakers always have great players…..Jerry West isn’t here anymore.
            .

          47. Did we lose the fan base in the 90’s? Not one championship in that decade. Only one finalsaappearances, & it was in 91, Magic’s last Showtime season. Patience was a virtue then and it will be now for real fans.

          48. The clippers were not what they were then and didn’t have what it takes to pull the fan base as they can and have done now.

            No comparison.

          49. what difference does it make how many fans the Lakers have? Why not just be a fan if it makes sense to you and who cares about anyone else?

          50. That’s a given for me. All I’m trying to say is these guys are talking bandwagon fandom.

          51. The Lakers will always have a good FAN BASE. They came the last three years as bad as they were, real fans will come to see the LAKERS and the next LEADER OF THEM nothing is going to change. At least not with me. and millions of other FANS.

          52. true but i lasted from 2002 to 2009 7 without a title and then 2010 until now another 5 years. thats 12 years straight with no winning.
            real fans dont run when things get tough thats true…….

          53. But in the meantime the Kobe bashing clowns need to stop.

            And once we find our Kobe replacement and they are not satisfied, I don’t want to hear their b itching.

          54. Who’s bashing him? Randy simply pointed real deficiencies in his game tonight. There’s nothing wrong with pointing that out when it happens. That’s not bashing. Some folks need to check their sensitivity levels. IJS

          55. Kobe played 13 minutes. If a person is fixated on blaming one individual for a team loss in which he played only 13 minutes IS BASHING!

            Out of all his posts in this thread , how many of them are about blaming Kobe.

            Let’s not attempt to mask what it is.

            You should exercise better judgement who you back up on here because don’t think they will return the favor. Remember that.

          56. If you refuse to see it that’s on you.

            You want to put yourself out on a limb and stake your reputation for a guy with flawed logic, that’s your call and your right to do so.

          57. I’m not here to forge digital alliances. If I agree with something I read and speak on it that’s it. If I’m cool with someone, cool. As I’m sure you can tell I have no problem entertaining a friendly debate. Msny times we won’t see eye to eye and that’s cool to.

          58. And I can appreciate having a LOGICAL discussion with someone like you even when we don’t see eye to eye. I am always receptive to learning.

            I can not however, tolerate people with malicious motives, flawed logic, or hidden agenda.

          59. Great player haters see things the same just as non haters do.

            Just let them enjoy the misery alone. Hit them with one or two comments and move on. Hate is a disease that most can’t see and the hateful can’t shake. It’s sad, they don’t even think their being hateful.

            Paytc

          60. Lakers Lifer, we have been friends so I feel that I can say you that not every one thinks and feels like you do and we all e the rights to say whats on our minds, that is what LAKERS NATION is a gathering of LAKERS FANS who should be able to say how they saw things , with out fighting each other over some thing that we cant control– the way I see it it is TO EACH HIS OWN.

          61. That’s not a secret to any one who watched the game, putting your head in the sand changes nothing, no matter how much one wants it to.

          62. I guess since Steph Curry (5/13) and Klay Thompson (1/8) shot as poorly as Kobe they must be old? I guess when Randle broke his leg and was out for the season it was because he was old? I guess Derrick Rose and CP3 are recovering from injuries because they are old too?

            The very title of this thread is “Kobe suffers leg injury as Lakers fall to Kings.” So you would think his health and recovery would be the focus, not kicking him whenever he’s down. He is a Laker, you are all Laker fans right?

            While many of us are rooting for Kobe, and the team (which he is part of) your very words say “Like it or not, they all get old. Father time is undefeated and life without Kobe is soon inevitable. The youth is being groomed to be next”. lets kick dirt on him he’s finished. I think with 20 years and 5 championships Kobe has earned our respect. And earned the right to decide when he will retire. He at least should be allowed to enjoy his 20th season just in case he decides not to play 3-5 more years as a Laker.

            It would be nice if fake people were as truthful as the people who support Kobe are. But some dislike the man for whatever reason and pretend to like him while looking for reasons to knock him. And most of all they want him to retire.

            Don’t hide the truth, you want him to retire right?

            But he will decide when he is finish playing not haters, doubter, bandwagon busters, fake fans, and people (who smile in his face all the time hating him),critics, or anyone else.

            Face it, he is still the best player on the team.

            Go Kobe ! Go Lakers !

            Paytc

          63. Please note I had no further comment so whoever responded in my defense most likely and had their comment deleted was not my comment.

            Paytc

          64. those guys will have good games much more consistently than Kobe this stage of his career. Just look back at the last few years and you know.

          65. And when they are finish with their career they will have 6 or 7 championships and go down in history as one of the all time greatest too right? LOL………. dam I can’t stop laughing at you and those like you LOL………….. LOL…………

            Go Lakers !

            Paytc

          66. I’m not saying for Kobe to leave. Just to not over-exert himself. He blew right by Rondo with basically the same move Carmelo did the night before. Kobe has too many miles on his legs to do stuff like that and stay healthy. He just needs to catch and shoot, use picks, and pass out of double teams instead of trying to juke his way out of them.

            Take good shots, be efficient. He knows, but the problem is that he doesn’t trust his teammates.

          67. WELL it was not real bright to put him back at the 2 spot, when BS knows that the 3 spot is where KOBE should be where he can work close to the rim , as they did in the game before, and they all played together it makes n o sense to find a working team and the next game change things all around.

          68. Ok no guard had played 21 seasons so i know kobe not and shouldnt come back mext year

          69. I give Kobe all the credit the world for being as good as he was for as long as he was, but now it’s time for him to stop exerting himself like he is 24 years old. He blew by Rondo like he was 24. Didn’t hook him or nothing. It was a sweet move, but he can’t keep doing that and stay healthy.

          70. You need to be loyal to this organization or stop calling yourself a fan.

          71. Classic apologist. No one’s bashing Kobe. There’s a thing called observing and giving constructive criticism.

          72. Ok how about criticizing the team’s overall play and defensive effort? How about giving Kobe some credit for helping the team get off to a good start?

            Kobe will always take shots and he will continue to be streaky. But blaming the best player on the team is just ridiculous if the credit and blame aren’t shared.

            I didn’t see the game but my guess is Kobe was not bringing the ball up court. Kobe probably got himself open and shot the balls that were passed to him when he believed he could make them. We will need Kobe to shake off his rust of 9 months too.

            Paytc

          73. Not as I saw it SORRY some one did not watch the game, or forgot to take his head out of the sand.

          74. That’s fine and many have done that. But that does not mean an observation of what happened early on with Kobe on the floor, be it positive or negative is off limits. Again, each of us sees things in our own unique way.

          75. We know there are many great player haters in the world.

            You didn’t have to point that fact out to me of all people. I bash the great player haters for bashing great players like I get paid for it.

            Steph Curry and Klay Thompson are two of the best shooters in the world and here was their preseason game stats tonight……..

            Steph Curry made 5/13 shots and Klay Thompson made 1/8 shots.
            Neither one of them shot any better than Kobe. So what can you haters say that would make the hate sound credible?

            Paytc

          76. Excuse me they are last season CHAMPIONS, until some one takes it away from them. And we came in 29 over all, but we are trying to build I am only interested in the next 15 players the LAKERS FO brings to the court, not just one guy.

          77. Do you know you are the only one using the word HATER, and that is not realistic that ever one but you is a HATER I am not one and many others are not, you know HATE runs in two directions, but you are the only one using that word, that could be seen a weakness to try and prove a point, that is not correct.

          78. I gotta call them what they are even when it’s not popular to do so when they make it so obvious.

            When you consistently have only negative comments about one player or the coach in general, you are hating on that person for some reason. So I wouldn’t call the person a lover.

            Paytc

          79. Don’t pick and choose a single player to blame. The entire team should be held accountable especially when the player being bashed only played 13 minutes.

          80. Like you said you did not see the game so your talking about things you know nothing of, and your doing everything guessing, and telling others they are wrong, don’t you think your pushing it a little to much , that’s just my guess ,

          81. I call the guys your backing great player haters and apparently your one too if you agree with them. Because the man hurt his leg out there battling for this team as he has for 20 years. Instead of showing him some concern and compassion you choose to criticize/critic/bash him?

            You all should be hoping he returns healthy but instead many of you haters want him to retire. Just wait and see what you lose when he is gone. He is one of the best to ever play and he is still capable of playing at a high level. I know many of you can’t stand it. But you gotta deal with it anyway.

            Kobe many of us and all true great player and basketball fans want to see you and the Lakers return to the top.

            Go Kobe ! Go Lakers !

          82. You’re doing too much. And TBH, I don’t care what I’m called. This was just a simple critique of early performance in the flow of the game. Lines got crossed in personal feelings, in translation. I don’t have time for all of that. I state my opinion and be done with it.

          83. Your right and our feeling and words speak volumes about our character. At least we know the type of persons we are.

            We will agree on some things and dis agree on others. Have a good night. And send a few well wishes or good thoughts out to Lamar Odom.

            Paytc

          84. You are within your right. Where is your friend randy all this time you have been defending HIS posts Daryl???

            Remember what I asked you to remember earlier. Just saying !

          85. I see you already forgot what I said about not being here to forge digital alliances. Randy is not my friend. I don’t know him. I agreed with his first assessment of early on, That’s all.

          86. Here again your putting feelings before knowledge, Kobe hurt his leg (ok we will say that) the next thing that came out was he could not walk on it , (BUT) shortly later he was seen going to the HOSP. in a TAXI TO see how ODOM was walking OK with no problems.

          87. include me paytc i love Kobe!
            i hope he dominates this year and shows them whats really good…

          88. that’s how he always plays…….don’t let a W over Maccabi go to your head, lol. Bryant iis washed up.

          89. There is a difference when you start out in the hole and have to catch up there is such a thing called TEAM PLAY- one man out of control can hurt a team.

          90. Kobe should be playing the 3 spot less running, closer to the rim is his game now, when I saw he was starting @ the 2 I new that was bad, that is not where he belongs and it changed the whole rotation from the game the game before which the team looked good and played good and we had ball movement.

          91. So what’s the excuse you are going to give when Kobe wasn’t in the game ?

        2. Kobe shot 4-12…The team shot even Worse…..No defense…Got nothing to do with Kobe shooting 4-12.

          1. Kobe set the tone right from the beginning. He needs to get others involved early on. When he goes into hero ball mode his teammates give less effort on both ends

          2. Kobe made his 1st 3 shots so he did set the tone…the others were the one who didn’t follow ….Kobe play roughly 12min….why can’t a team with other vets set the tone the other 36mins?….Stop looking for someone to blame.

          3. Kobe needs to think for others, Kobe needs to make miracles.

            You get on people’s nerves with that ignorance.

          4. It was Kobe’s 4-7 that kept the team in the game. Kobe needs to shoot to work himself back into high level game condition. Shooting has always been one of the best parts of Kobe’s game and that won’t change.

            Those who don’t like him will blame him whenever they can. Just like those who enjoy great players will back him through his good, not so good, and great performances. Kobe is human. He will continue to have good, not so good, and great performances. Once he shakes the rust off and gets his rhythm going the good will out weigh the not so good, and the great will rise above all.

            Go Kobe ! GO Lakers !

            Paytc

          5. Exactly. Lakers fans who know basketball and know Kobe should know this.

            The casual fans won’t.

          6. Steph Curry and Klay Thompson are two of the best shooters in the world and here was their preseason game stats tonight……..

            Steph Curry made 5/13 shots and Klay Thompson made 1/8 shots.

            Neither one of them shot any better than Kobe. So what can these haters say that would make their hate sound credible?

            And their pure shooters ! Kobe Bryant is a scorer ! Scorers usually have to shoot higher volumes of shots to get into a rhythm. Not to mention with Kobe being away from the game 9 months and only playing 6 games in the season two years ago and only 27 last year he has to shoot and condition himself back to play at a high level. He has an excuse but he is not making one. He will just make it up on the next play or next game.

            Kobe hurt his leg and instead of being concerned about his health haters want to knock when his shot is a little off?

            But I am worried about Lamar Odom more than I am any of theses great player haters.

            Thoughts,Prayers and well wishes go out to Lamar and all his loved ones.

            Paytc

          7. Steph Curry and Klay Thompson are two of the best shooters in the world and here was their preseason game stats tonight……..

            Steph Curry made 5/13 shots and Klay Thompson made 1/8 shots.

            Neither one of them shot any better than Kobe. So what can these haters say that would make their hate sound credible?

            The title of this thread is “Kobe suffers leg injury as the Lakers fall to Kings.”

            But instead of showing the player who has worked harder and longer than any Laker in history they choose to look for his faults and knock him when he is down.

            Our very words say a lot about our character.

            My prayers go out to Lamar Odom as he is fighting for his life.

            Paytc

          8. Kobe shot 33 % and as a team at the end of the game the team shot 43 %how did they do that shooting worst ?

        3. Kobe didnt plau long enough. A few days ago lebton was 3 for 13 so relax its pre season, kobe knows what hes duin

        4. So how did the team do when Kobe wasnt playing Randy.

          Are you going to blame him for that too.

          Quit your Kobe bashing, it’s not a good look for you.

        5. Kobe started off shooting pretty well as he was 4-7 then apparently he missed the next 5. But Kobe has always been and will always be a scorer. He is also a rhythm shooter not a pure shooter.

          He will most likely continue to shoot and be streaky. That is what he does. And it helped the team win championships.

          Defense appears to be the biggest problem and of course trust, confidence and team chemistry. When you have so many new players and different rotations it will take time to get on the same page.

          Lets hope they can pull it together early in the season while the schedule is not too hard.

          And why were people so quite and/or optimistic when they beat the non NBA team but so negative and pessimistic with the loss?

          It’s preseason and every team we play has better chemistry and more return starters. Get used to the ups and downs.

          Or keep being finger pointing band wagon fans.

          Go Lakers !

          Paytc

          1. They act like Kobe has not been away from the game for 9 months. Sounds like a few buck passing excuse making idiots to me. If they don’t see the value the best player on the team and one of the best in the league means.

            You really have to ignore them because they are not Kobe fans and many are the opposite, Kobe haters. They are quite as a church mouse when Kobe has a great game and can’t wait to blame him when he doesn’t. I don’t give busters respect or credibility.

            Steph Curry and Klay Thompson are two of the best shooters in the world and here was their preseason game stats tonight……..
            Steph Curry made 5/13 shots and Klay Thompson made 1/8 shots.
            Neither one of them shot any better than Kobe. So what can these haters say that would make their hate sound credible?

            Paytc

          2. Well said, as usual PAYTC, but can you believe the logic of the ignorant Kobe blamers?

            I can’t belive the ignorance.

          3. Just read my post below to Meleke lewis.

            As I said there are several Kobe haters on board who will never credit him for anything and blame him for all of the team’s struggles. They have no credibility and just need to knock someone who has accomplished far more than they ever will be able to in hopes to feel better about their own accomplishments. Or lack there of.

            We know the value of Kobe. So does the front office, the coach, and his team mates.

            Paytc

        6. Kobe is the Leader of this tank roster. That’s him at the helm of the Tank in my avatar.

      2. Stop being over protective. You can’t hide his FG percentage and he missed every three point shot he took.

        1. It’s reality……the Lakers didn’t play that We’ll with Kobe Off the Court…..They looked terrible…So don’t put that on Kobe……

          1. It’s one thing to lose games, but when he benches Russell he is putting Kupchak’s job at risk because now Kupchak’s judgement is being called into question. The fact that Kupchak took Russell will be a sore spot if he is a bust.

        2. Who made every 3 point shot they took.

          What went wrong when Kobe was not playing? Who do you blame for that..Kobe too?

      3. kobe scored 10 points on 4-12 fg. 0 assists.1 rebound, 1 turnover. the black mamba is back!! lol

      4. Didn’t even get to watch the game but i was keeping up play by play on the nba site and i was seeing Kobe take a lot of shots early and i was like ok Kobe slow down man, KB has to trust his team mates this is a far better team than we had last year and once Kobe feels in his mind like he is the 07 Kobe he reverts back to trying to carry the team or play like he is the old Kobe, for example if Rondo is a smaller guy why would you try to go past him when you can back him down and do your patten fade away jumper he can’t block it anyway and thats how he got hurt, you have a young Clarkson who has youth and can attack the basket you seen how great Clarkson played when Kobe left, find a way to get him involved or Randle. But Kobe does not deserve all of the blame its just he has to stop thinking he is the old Kobe or we will lose a lot of games once Kobe make a few shots he thinks he is the old Kobe, he shuts out his team mates and just go back to playing Los Angeles Kobes and gets hurt. I don’t think B.Scott deserve that much blame either the team is not playing defense they have to be more physical and when they are not Metta deserves more minutes because he gets it all started.

        1. You need to watch the game. Allot of what you suggest is indeed what Kobe did.

          He only played 13 minutes. What analogy and advise would you have for the rest of the other players?

      5. He’s right but that’s what’s going to happen when D’angelo doesn’t start. He is the only playmaker kobe really respects enough to take the ball out of his own hands.

      6. If you take time to see the stats (and I am not a stats guy) but their shooting % was only 2 1/2 % in their favor but our 3 s were much better and we beat them in every other stat, except the final score, we did not look good but neither did they just a few more points is all it takes, we came back from 18 down, and that was with KOBE missing, so we did not do bad just not enough.

        1. Which goes to show you Stats can be Mis-leading….That game was worse than that Final score says……Their 3rd strings was playing vs some of the Lakers starters…..No moral victory in that.

    2. His job isn’t to facilitate, that’s Clarkson and Russell’s job. It takes a lot of energy to do all of that, and his needs to be conserved to preserve his health. Stop it.

        1. Did you somehow think that Kobe would forget that he’s Kobe Bryant?

          And despite all the negativity that you want to speak, he still lead the team in scoring until he was benched.

          Kobe’s gonna be Kobe.
          Accept it.

          1. Kobe was not playing well. He shot well at first because nobody was expecting him to play like he did, but as soon as he starting playing hero ball the doubles starting coming and he was chucking up bad shots.

          2. Who cares about leading in scoring if you shoot 33%. That’s what happened last season

          3. Did it make any difference?

            Kobe can shoot 33% or ABrown can shoot 33%.
            or Russell…
            or Young…

            With or without Kobe this team isn’t getting more than 35 wins. There is no silver bullet bro.

            Sit back and enjoy the ride.

          4. And see that’s the problem. You don’t care if Kobe shoots 33% from the field just as long as it’s Kobe. If Russell is shooting 33% at least he is learning. Russell is the future.

            If they not going to make the playoffs they need to focus on developing Russell because his confidence is completely shot.

          5. No.
            I accept that NO Lakers player is going to shoot better than 33% at the SF position and that in the big picture it really makes no difference.

            I accept that this is a 35 win team and that this year’s main focus is to give Russell, Randle, and Clarkson 30+ minutes per night and hope that they can grow to become better players for the future.

            Russell is shooting like garbage and isn’t playing anything better than a bench guy. And somehow you forgot that he’s a guard.

            Maybe Russell’s confidence is shot because he’s a rookie and the learning curve for the game’s toughest position is a bit harder than he and his ego expected? (aka he’s a rookie with ZERO NBA experience).

          6. Kobe did start at the SG position in the last game, but I’m not saying they are competing for playing time. I am saying that Russell needs the room to fail and not be worried about losing playing time over it. They invested too much into that kid with a top pick to just see him flounder like that.

            He is playing garbage minutes right now against the likes of David Stockton. If Scott gives Russell 30+ minutes and he fails then I can’t blame Scott. However, if Russell is constantly worried about his position and doesn’t have any room to fail (learn) then I blame Scott 100% for that.

      1. That’s what Kobe said, but Kobe did way too much in that last game. That’s why he got injured. He should have passed that ball off because the help was right behind Rondo when he made his move.

    3. first qtr, 4/11+ 0/4 from behind the line and shot 25 % of the LAKERS Shots, he needs to stay @ the 3, putting him back at the SG was the first mistake of the night, CLARKSON should play SG ,CLARKSON never did get a chance to get his rhythm, the whole team was out sync,

  • I think Scott showed us his top 10 guys, basic rotations, and overall usage of guys for the upcoming season.
    Add Huertas, MWP and Nance…

    There are only 2 open spots.
    Upshaw vs. Black vs. Sacre
    Holmes vs. Frazier vs. JBrown

    I pick Upshaw and Holmes.

      1. With the perspective of Holmes in year 2 and year 3, I think he has the most upside of the 3. It says something that the team liked him enough in pre-draft workouts and Summer League to pay him $100K to pick the Lakers for Training Camp (and a potential future).

        And, I think the team has been sandbagging Frazier with the expectation that he’d be sent to the DLeague and stashed. The team paid him $50K.

        It wouldn’t surprise me if Mitch weren’t lighting up the phones looking for a trade tonight.

        1. Thats y i want holmes be included in the final lineup. We needed defensiv minded forward on the floor. We badly needed perimeter defense and i think holmes will become effective sf in that area.

  • I think Scott showed us his top 10 guys, basic rotations, and overall usage of guys for the upcoming season.
    Add Huertas, MWP and Nance…

    There are only 2 open spots.
    Upshaw vs. Black vs. Sacre
    Holmes vs. Frazier vs. JBrown

    I pick Upshaw and Holmes.

      1. With the perspective of Holmes in year 2 and year 3, I think he has the most upside of the 3. It says something that the team liked him enough in pre-draft workouts and Summer League to pay him $100K to pick the Lakers for Training Camp (and a potential future).

        And, I think the team has been sandbagging Frazier with the expectation that he’d be sent to the DLeague and stashed. The team paid him $50K.

        It would surprise me if Mitch weren’t lighting up the phones looking for a trade tonight.

        1. Thats y i want holmes be included in the final lineup. We needed defensiv minded forward on the floor. We badly needed perimeter defense and i think holmes will become effective sf in that area.

  • Well At the Momment it doesnt look good for the 9 players that did not play tonight.

    Huertas, Frazier, J.Brown, MWP, Holmes, Black, Nance Jr, Upshaw, Sacre

    The players being cut first are on this list.

  • Well At the Momment it doesnt look good for the 9 players that did not play tonight.

    Huertas, Frazier, J.Brown, MWP, Holmes, Black, Nance Jr, Upshaw, Sacre

    The players being cut first are on this list.

  • I know it’s just preseason, but the rotations are bad. Specifically, at C and PF. You can’t have Bass and Kelly together off the bench, this leaves out any opportunity of paint defense or offensive rebounding. Have Bass come off the bench with Black or Upshaw.

      1. It’s not going to work every night. Did you see Kelly standing out at the 3 and Bass in the midrange, no Lakers were in the paint to get the rebound if there’s a miss. Shots aren’t always going to fall, you can’t have all 5 players outside of the paint. Plus, in Hawaii Gobert and Favors didn’t play that much or at all.

    1. Scott is not allowing Upshaw to earn his spot. I just assumed Upshaw would be the backup center, but it’s obvious that he won’t get significant minutes.

      1. Not even Upshaw, but Black was supposed to be the backup C and he is hardly seeing the floor. I never tried to doubt Scott, but not playing Black is a head scratcher

    1. It’s sad too because Kobe could have really contributed to this team if he was willing to play within the offense.

  • I know it’s just preseason, but the rotations are bad. Specifically, at C and PF. You can’t have Bass and Kelly together off the bench, this leaves out any opportunity of paint defense or offensive rebounding. Have Bass come off the bench with Black or Upshaw.

      1. It’s not going to work every night. Did you see Kelly standing out at the 3 and Bass in the midrange, no Lakers were in the paint to get the rebound if there’s a miss. Shots aren’t always going to fall, you can’t have all 5 players outside of the paint. Plus, in Hawaii Gobert and Favors didn’t play that much or at all.

    1. Scott is not allowing Upshaw to earn his spot. I just assumed Upshaw would be the backup center, but it’s obvious that he won’t get significant minutes.

      1. Not even Upshaw, but Black was supposed to be the backup C and he is hardly seeing the floor. I never tried to doubt Scott, but not playing Black is a head scratcher

    1. It’s sad too because Kobe could have really contributed to this team if he was willing to play within the offense.

  • Still absolutely mystified by some of Byron Scott’s decisions. Isn’t preseason about trying out the guys you don’t know rather than the guys you do know? What’s the point of playing Lou every game, we know what he can do. Meanwhile Frazier, Upshaw and Holmes have barely had any chance to show their stuff against NBA opposition.

    1. No, it is about figuring out lineups and building chemistry. You are also auditioning players but they have to earn minutes and a shot in practice

      1. You can’t audition players if they don’t see the floor. Plus, they can’t earn minutes just sitting on the bench. Pretty sure players worked hard in practice.

        1. You are auditioning them in practice, they have to earn playing time. If the coach can’t picture them in a rotation, no need to waste those minutes.

      2. Every other team seems to be giving their fringe guys a go. Even the Kings started one tonight, James Anderson. Even then George Karl put in his 3rd stringers for the end of the game. Meanwhile Byron kept the same horrible second unit out there. I mean Bass and Kelly, really??

        1. Maybe Anderson played well enough in practice to earn a shot in the rotation. Kelly has been playing very well. Most articles today said he is a lock to stay on the roster based on his play

          1. Maybe Byron Scott has no idea what he is doing. This is also a possibility…Look at this Suns game, Sonny Weems and Jon Leuer starting. I haven’t even heard of Sonny Weems before.

          2. How do we know they have no shot if they don’t get a go? It’s like applying for a job field that only hires experienced people, but how can you get experience if you can’t get said job? Lou Williams tonight shot about 3 or 4 “3 pointers” which were so far outside of the line, he has been given more minutes than anyone and yet hasn’t really deserved them.

          3. So you want to cut Lou? That would be very expensive. We are stuck with him, best to let him play with second unit to build chemistry.

          4. I don’t want to cut Lou, you crazy? I want him to sit out, kind of like how Cousins sat out tonight.

          5. Scott has 2 practices every day, and has had 2 practices every day for nearly 14 days. I am quite sure he knows the playing caliber of his team.

        2. Sorry but Kelly is playing good basketball so far. He never gonna tear it up but he’s a serviceable back-up.

          1. Only at one end though. Even then, he and Bass barely were in the paint all game. DLo was getting all the offensive boards.

        3. And when Scott gives C-tier guys game time, folks complain that he should be giving the starters and backups more time.

          You are WAY to focused on guys who might not make the team or get more than 5 minutes on any given night.

          Are you trying to find a team that will win this year, or just want to watch future DLeaguers struggle?

          1. Again how to we know they are C-tier guys? How come Ryan Kelly has been afforded such a luxury of playing time, while Holmes who is basically a very similar sort of role, stretch 4, potential 3 has been given about 12 minutes all up in the final quarter of a game playing with other C-tier guys. Why not try these guys with some actual decent calibre players around them? All the other NBA teams seem to insert their fringe guys into a rotation with solid players around them. How can you expect to make the Lakers team when guys who are pretty average to begin with like Ryan Kelly are getting a lot of minutes. Likewise many of the preseason NBA teams are resting their regular players in order to have a better look at their guys who can potentially either become something or contribute to their overall squad e.g. Cousins in this game.

    2. The point is that he doesn’t want finish the pre-season with only one win. It looks like that will be the case since their last 3 games will be against the Warriors, Blazers, then the Warriors again.

      I agree, though. They have to give Russell more shots and more time on the court.

    3. Undrafted rookies aren’t going to change the fate of the team. And are presumably not good enough to be NBA players yet.

      So does it really matter if they play or not? They won’t in the regular season.

      1. Personally i’d allot certain minutes of the game just for the unheralded. Lou shouldn’t be out there against the likes of Stockton, Dukan, Curry, Anderson… When your starters are done, give the rooks a chance.

    4. Not all the coachs use the 19 players they have at their disposal. Many teams are using their normal rotations. Pre-season helps also in creating your alchimy. Maybe Scott wants to get some certainties about the bench instead of giving minutes to a guy that will be cut because since he left college has just kept throwing airballs. At this point it’s more important to determine the rotations. Who cares about seing Frazier, Upshaw and Holmes ? They won’t be given significant minutes or roles this season anyway.

  • Still absolutely mystified by some of Byron Scott’s decisions. Isn’t preseason about trying out the guys you don’t know rather than the guys you do know? What’s the point of playing Lou every game, we know what he can do. Meanwhile Frazier, Upshaw and Holmes have barely had any chance to show their stuff against NBA opposition.

    1. No, it is about figuring out lineups and building chemistry. You are also auditioning players but they have to earn minutes and a shot in practice

      1. You can’t audition players if they don’t see the floor. Plus, they can’t earn minutes just sitting on the bench. Pretty sure players worked hard in practice.

        1. You are auditioning them in practice, they have to earn playing time. If the coach can’t picture them in a rotation, no need to waste those minutes.

      2. Every other team seems to be giving their fringe guys a go. Even the Kings started one tonight, James Anderson. Even then George Karl put in his 3rd stringers for the end of the game. Meanwhile Byron kept the same horrible second unit out there. I mean Bass and Kelly, really??

        1. Maybe Anderson played well enough in practice to earn a shot in the rotation. Kelly has been playing very well. Most articles today said he is a lock to stay on the roster based on his play

          1. Maybe Byron Scott has no idea what he is doing. This is also a possibility…Look at this Suns game, Sonny Weems and Jon Leuer starting. I haven’t even heard of Sonny Weems before.

          2. How do we know they have no shot if they don’t get a go? It’s like applying for a job field that only hires experienced people, but how can you get experience if you can’t get said job? Lou Williams tonight shot about 3 or 4 “3 pointers” which were so far outside of the line, he has been given more minutes than anyone and yet hasn’t really deserved them.

          3. So you want to cut Lou? That would be very expensive. We are stuck with him, best to let him play with second unit to build chemistry.

          4. I don’t want to cut Lou, you crazy? I want him to sit out, kind of like how Cousins sat out tonight.

          5. Scott has 2 practices every day, and has had 2 practices every day for nearly 14 days. I am quite sure he knows the playing caliber of his team.

        2. Sorry but Kelly is playing good basketball so far. He never gonna tear it up but he’s a serviceable back-up.

          1. Only at one end though. Even then, he and Bass barely were in the paint all game. DLo was getting all the offensive boards.

        3. And when Scott gives C-tier guys game time, folks complain that he should be giving the starters and backups more time.

          You are WAY to focused on guys who might not make the team or get more than 5 minutes on any given night.

          Are you trying to find a team that will win this year, or just want to watch future DLeaguers struggle?

          1. Again how to we know they are C-tier guys? How come Ryan Kelly has been afforded such a luxury of playing time, while Holmes who is basically a very similar sort of role, stretch 4, potential 3 has been given about 12 minutes all up in the final quarter of a game playing with other C-tier guys. Why not try these guys with some actual decent calibre players around them? All the other NBA teams seem to insert their fringe guys into a rotation with solid players around them. How can you expect to make the Lakers team when guys who are pretty average to begin with like Ryan Kelly are getting a lot of minutes. Likewise many of the preseason NBA teams are resting their regular players in order to have a better look at their guys who can potentially either become something or contribute to their overall squad e.g. Cousins in this game.

    2. The point is that he doesn’t want finish the pre-season with only one win. It looks like that will be the case since their last 3 games will be against the Warriors, Blazers, then the Warriors again.

      I agree, though. They have to give Russell more shots and more time on the court.

    3. Undrafted rookies aren’t going to change the fate of the team. And are presumably not good enough to be NBA players yet.

      So does it really matter if they play or not? They won’t in the regular season.

      1. Personally i’d allot certain minutes of the game just for the unheralded. Lou shouldn’t be out there against the likes of Stockton, Dukan, Curry, Anderson… When your starters are done, give the rooks a chance.

    4. Not all the coachs use the 19 players they have at their disposal. Many teams are using their normal rotations. Pre-season helps also in creating your alchimy. Maybe Scott wants to get some certainties about the bench instead of giving minutes to a guy that will be cut because since he left college has just kept throwing airballs. At this point it’s more important to determine the rotations. Who cares about seing Frazier, Upshaw and Holmes ? They won’t be given significant minutes or roles this season anyway.

    1. I’ve noticed Russell plays better with Kobe, Clarkson is okay but not as great. Kobe hasn’t been ball dominant so far either

      1. I think Kobe has more respect for DR than for Clarkson or anyone else for that matter. There might be some chemistry there.

        1. Kobe did mentor Clarkson a lot last year, and he does get along with Clarkson. I just think it’s a matter of Clarkson not knowing when to attack. Kobe does seem to let these young guys have the green light to score or attack, they just need to finish. Chemistry seems to be good with this team, Kobe and Clarkson seem to have great chemistry, I just think it’s a matter of Clarkson just having to finish

    2. Clarkson wasn’t that impressive with or without Kobe being on the floor….Turning the ball over and playing out of control….Defensively he was terrible.

      1. ??? He only had two turnovers. I agree with you defensively, but he played well offensively once he was able to dribble more and worry about his own shot instead of looking for Kobe. Kobe was distorting the offense way too much. Kobe should just catch and shoot and not try and be what he was when he was younger.

    1. It’s concerning that they have yet to win against NBA talent (and based on the upcoming games left, I doubt they will). But at least they’ve shown they can compete and hang in long enough to be able to win.

      1. This year’s team is better than last year’s team.

        That in itself is an improvement and signs that things are moving in the right direction.

    1. I’ve noticed Russell plays better with Kobe, Clarkson is okay but not as great. Kobe hasn’t been ball dominant so far either

      1. I think Kobe has more respect for DR than for Clarkson or anyone else for that matter. There might be some chemistry there.

        1. Kobe did mentor Clarkson a lot last year, and he does get along with Clarkson. I just think it’s a matter of Clarkson not knowing when to attack. Kobe does seem to let these young guys have the green light to score or attack, they just need to finish. Chemistry seems to be good with this team, Kobe and Clarkson seem to have great chemistry, I just think it’s a matter of Clarkson just having to finish

    2. Clarkson wasn’t that impressive with or without Kobe being on the floor….Turning the ball over and playing out of control….Defensively he was terrible.

      1. ??? He only had two turnovers. I agree with you defensively, but he played well offensively once he was able to dribble more and worry about his own shot instead of looking for Kobe. Kobe was distorting the offense way too much. Kobe should just catch and shoot and not try and be what he was when he was younger.

    1. It’s concerning that they have yet to win against NBA talent (and based on the upcoming games left, I doubt they will). But at least they’ve shown they can compete and hang in long enough to be able to win.

      1. This year’s team is better than last year’s team.

        That in itself is an improvement and signs that things are moving in the right direction.

  • Not a great showing. Kobe was bad when he played and lou had an off night. If cousins played we’d have lost by 15+.

    I think Russell was ok, loved the rebounding…his final stat line looked better than his performance. Hibbert I thought was solid and a brown was decent. I don’t like bass or kelly personally, I’m Hoping Randall can play 35 min a game.

    Overall, we are still a bad team…but we have improving pieces. Goal for this team is to play .500 ball after the all star break, end up with 35 wins and have the young guys develop their game both individually and with each other as team mates.

    Btw, Lakers will start off 1-10 or something…so be patient.

  • Gonna be a long year. This team can’t play defense and their offense doesn’t generate enough good looks to be winning games. Hire a modern nba coach and start building something for the future

    1. How about letting Scott do the heavy lifting during the rebuild and then once he’s turned things around hire a better coach.

      To me, right now, he’s the best coach. He’s a player developer. He’s hard nosed enough to instill good fundamentals and he’s a company guy and won’t try to do things differently than what the front office wants.

      This team isn’t going to get more than 36 wins with or without Scott. So let’s let him manage this painful year of growth as Clarkson, Randle, and Russell mature as players.

  • Not a great showing. Kobe was bad when he played and lou had an off night. If cousins played we’d have lost by 15+.

    I think Russell was ok, loved the rebounding…his final stat line looked better than his performance. Hibbert I thought was solid and a brown was decent. I don’t like bass or kelly personally, I’m Hoping Randall can play 35 min a game.

    Overall, we are still a bad team…but we have improving pieces. Goal for this team is to play .500 ball after the all star break, end up with 35 wins and have the young guys develop their game both individually and with each other as team mates.

    Btw, Lakers will start off 1-10 or something…so be patient.

  • Gonna be a long year. This team can’t play defense and their offense doesn’t generate enough good looks to be winning games. Hire a modern nba coach and start building something for the future

    1. How about letting Scott do the heavy lifting during the rebuild and then once he’s turned things around hire a better coach.

      To me, right now, he’s the best coach. He’s a player developer. He’s hard nosed enough to instill good fundamentals and he’s a company guy and won’t try to do things differently than what the front office wants.

      This team isn’t going to get more than 36 wins with or without Scott. So let’s let him manage this painful year of growth as Clarkson, Randle, and Russell mature as players.

  • We are not going to be a good team this season. It is about building for the future. With that in mind, please move Russell back to the starting lineup.

  • JLIN tearing it up for the Hornets… all you people tearing him down last year bet you regret it now

    1. Nope… Leopards don’t change their spots.
      And Lin won’t be anything more than he’s ever been.

      I was hoping he could stick around this season as he would be a good backup and occasional starter.

      1. LOL.. JLIN is outplaying both Clarkson and Russell.. you calling Lin a leopard.. he’s more like a dragon and he’s going to unleash his super saiyan powers this year.. where Scott was dumb enough to hide them

        1. Lin will never be anything more than a 14ppg combo guard.
          And his strengths are also weaknesses.

          He COULD be the league’s best 6th man, but somewhere in his Harvard educated brain he has convinced himself that he’s good enough to start (and be elite).

          1. LOL.. thats where you are wrong.. he is more than just a 14ppg combo guard.. he is much more than that.. he can definitely be a starter in this league and THERE IS A REASON he believes that

            Coach Clifford is starting him tomorrow when they play the Clippers and there is a good chance he will start when the regular season begins.. Clifford is a smart coach unlike Scott and he will slowly realize Lin is better suited to run the team and Kemba may be the guy you want off your bench as your super sub

          2. To Show how much you guys really need him and all the disrespect you showed him last year.. hes shoving it right back in your face!

          3. more power to him. I hope he succeeds in Charlotte. It’s probably a better place for him. I’m glad he’s still in the NBA for that matter.

          4. He’s here because Lin will prove that Lakersnation were stupid for getting rid of him

        1. I’ll give you that, but the offense was pretty horrible around the 2nd quarter which was when Kobe started throwing up shots. We need guys to be consistent on offense and defense, the last few games they came out with energy, but tonight they didn’t look that energized

          1. I’d say on offense Kobe or Clarkson, defense I prefer Hibbert to set the tone in the paint.

  • We are not going to be a good team this season. It is about building for the future. With that in mind, please move Russell back to the starting lineup.

  • JLIN tearing it up for the Hornets… all you people tearing him down last year bet you regret it now

    1. Nope… Leopards don’t change their spots.
      And Lin won’t be anything more than he’s ever been.

      I was hoping he could stick around this season as he would be a good backup and occasional starter.

      1. LOL.. JLIN is outplaying both Clarkson and Russell.. you calling Lin a leopard.. he’s more like a dragon and he’s going to unleash his super saiyan powers this year.. where Scott was dumb enough to hide them

        1. Lin will never be anything more than a 14ppg combo guard.
          And his strengths are also weaknesses.

          He COULD be the league’s best 6th man, but somewhere in his Harvard educated brain he has convinced himself that he’s good enough to start (and be elite).

          1. LOL.. thats where you are wrong.. he is more than just a 14ppg combo guard.. he is much more than that.. he can definitely be a starter in this league and THERE IS A REASON he believes that

            Coach Clifford is starting him tomorrow when they play the Clippers and there is a good chance he will start when the regular season begins.. Clifford is a smart coach unlike Scott and he will slowly realize Lin is better suited to run the team and Kemba may be the guy you want off your bench as your super sub

          2. To Show how much you guys really need him and all the disrespect you showed him last year.. hes shoving it right back in your face!

          3. more power to him. I hope he succeeds in Charlotte. It’s probably a better place for him. I’m glad he’s still in the NBA for that matter.

          4. He’s here because Lin will prove that Lakersnation were stupid for getting rid of him

        1. I’ll give you that, but the offense was pretty horrible around the 2nd quarter which was when Kobe started throwing up shots. We need guys to be consistent on offense and defense, the last few games they came out with energy, but tonight they didn’t look that energized

          1. I’d say on offense Kobe or Clarkson, defense I prefer Hibbert to set the tone in the paint.

  • JLIN is outplaying both Russell and Clarkson combined.. haha and all you guys were disrespecting him last year.. told you it was the coachs fault

      1. Hes outplaying them BOTH COMBINED.. check the stats fool.. JLIN is tearing it up.. you see what he did in CHINA.. torched the Clippers by himself!

    1. LOL the kings are bottom feeders.. and Clarkson still coudlnt lead this team to a victory.. what are they 0-5 in preseason?

        1. JLIN goes to Charlotte and all of a sudden they are 3-0.. coincidence or just knowing how to use your players?

    2. 38 wins will get them into the playoffs?

      When did Sacramento get put into the Eastern Conference?

    3. They played us, and we’re not viewed as an elite team. A lot of people project us to be worse and they barely beat us by 7, yeah that’s a playoff team alright

  • Said it before I’ll say it again, I need more stalking of the glass from Randle. He’s playing more like a SF then a PF. Kelly played less minutes and almost doubled Randle’s rebounding. Same with Russell who had the second most boards behind Hibbert.

    1. Randle is playing by Hibbert though, only one basketball haha. He is also trying to be the guy that switches high to keep Hibbert in the middle. He is doing very good in every aspect considering he is a rookie

      1. I still need more glass activity from him. If Russell can grab 7 boards in 20 minutes Julius should have 10 in 28 minutes.

          1. No excuse. Pau and LO crashed the boards and there was no cannibalizing factor keeping one from getting his numbers in rebounds.

          2. Pau and Lamar weren’t on the floor together a lot of the time. Lamar was the sixth man. They did play together quite a bit though.

          3. Now I know you’re knowledge of the Lakers is suspect. Paul and LO were the preferred front court duo Phil used. Bynum was either hurt or in Phil’s doghouse half the time. Bynum rarely saw the floor in 4th quarters.

          4. Are you saying Lamar wasn’t the sixth man? He has an award that would say your knowledge is suspect. Obviously Pau played a lot of minutes without Lamar, or maybe you don’t know how that works.

          5. Are you thinking straight dude? What has 6th man got to do with minutes on the floor? LO played the third most mpg behind only Kobe and Pau. Again, Phil preferred LO and pau together. Stop arguing just to argue man.

          6. It means Pau was on the floor without Lamar. Do I really have to explain this? Is this basketball preschool?

          7. There are 48 minutes in an NBA game. Pau averaged 37 mpg. LO 32 MPG. Bynum 24 mpg. Simple math would tell you LO and Pau were on the floor together more of the three. That’s not even considering Bynum constantly being out injured or in Phil’s doghouse on the bench pouting. Then as you noted, Phil preferred to close with LO and Pau. You must be with that new math? O_O

          8. So then that is at least 11 minutes Pau played without Lamar per game. Seems right on target since Lamar cam in at the 5 to 6 minute mark of 1st and 3rd. Thanks for proving you were wrong

          9. You can’t be serious?!?. You’re just trolling now. Wow! I laid out pure unarguable details man. Bynum would go out at the 8 minute mark of the first quarter and it was pau together with LO. This is when he was not hurt or in Phil’s doghouse. Then you’re citing the full 11 minutes allocated as time they were not on the floor together. That leaves 26 minutes they could have been on the floor at the same time. I could go on… WOW

          10. Maybe you can’t read, but I never said they were not on the floor together. In fact I said they played together a lot. My point was there was a large chunk of the game when they were not competing for rebounds. Around 11 minutes in this case. Hibbert and Randle played almost the exact same minutes tonight, maybe 1 or two minutes not together. There is only one ball and King’s shot a high percentage. Randle will be fine. He is averaging around 7 boards in 27 minutes.

          11. He liked them on the floor together to close out the games, but Lamar led the second unit. They played a lot of minutes without each other. No reason to argue this, they actually have stats that show this now.

          12. Just cause they averaged that, doesn’t mean there weren’t games when Pau or Lamar had 5 or less rebounds. Especially when playing less than 30 minutes.

    2. I said this earlier, Randle looks like he has the potential to be an elite wing defender, but his post defense/rebounding still looks like a project. He should work with Metta on that.

      1. Metta was never a monster on the glass. He was a great wing defender and good scorer in his prime. Nothing about Metta says PF development. IJS

        1. Yeah man exactly. Randle has been defending wing players great and aggressive like Burke and tonight in Gay, but maybe Metta can’t preach post defense or rebounding as you pointed out. Wonder if the FO is trying to make Randle the next SF LeBron or PF Griffin. Randle also seems to hit his jump shots in practice, but in game hasn’t looked that great, so more questions

          1. Don’t get me wrong, I’m sure Metta knows a lil something bout low post D but crashing the glass like Barkley or Rodman is another thing.

  • JLIN is outplaying both Russell and Clarkson combined.. haha and all you guys were disrespecting him last year.. told you it was the coachs fault

      1. Hes outplaying them BOTH COMBINED.. check the stats fool.. JLIN is tearing it up.. you see what he did in CHINA.. torched the Clippers by himself!

    1. 38 wins will get them into the playoffs?

      When did Sacramento get put into the Eastern Conference?

    2. They played us, and we’re not viewed as an elite team. A lot of people project us to be worse and they barely beat us by 7, yeah that’s a playoff team alright

  • Said it before I’ll say it again, I need more stalking of the glass from Randle. He’s playing more like a SF then a PF. Kelly played less minutes and almost doubled Randle’s rebounding. Same with Russell who had the second most boards behind Hibbert.

    1. Randle is playing by Hibbert though, only one basketball haha. He is also trying to be the guy that switches high to keep Hibbert in the middle. He is doing very good in every aspect considering he is a rookie

      1. I still need more glass activity from him. If Russell can grab 7 boards in 20 minutes Julius should have 10 in 28 minutes.

          1. No excuse. Pau and LO crashed the boards and there was no cannibalizing factor keeping one from getting his numbers in rebounds.

          2. Pau and Lamar weren’t on the floor together a lot of the time. Lamar was the sixth man. They did play together quite a bit though.

          3. Now I know you’re knowledge of the Lakers is suspect. Paul and LO were the preferred front court duo Phil used. Bynum was either hurt or in Phil’s doghouse half the time. Bynum rarely saw the floor in 4th quarters.

          4. Are you saying Lamar wasn’t the sixth man? He has an award that would say your knowledge is suspect. Obviously Pau played a lot of minutes without Lamar, or maybe you don’t know how that works.

          5. Are you thinking straight dude? What has 6th man got to do with minutes on the floor? LO played the third most mpg behind only Kobe and Pau. Again, Phil preferred LO and pau together. Stop arguing just to argue man.

          6. It means Pau was on the floor without Lamar. Do I really have to explain this? Is this basketball preschool?

          7. There are 48 minutes in an NBA game. Pau averaged 37 mpg. LO 32 MPG. Bynum 24 mpg. Simple math would tell you LO and Pau were on the floor together more of the three. That’s not even considering Bynum constantly being out injured or in Phil’s doghouse on the bench pouting. Then as you noted, Phil preferred to close with LO and Pau. You must be with that new math? O_O

          8. So then that is at least 11 minutes Pau played without Lamar per game. Seems right on target since Lamar cam in at the 5 to 6 minute mark of 1st and 3rd. Thanks for proving you were wrong

          9. You can’t be serious?!?. You’re just trolling now. Wow! I laid out pure unarguable details man. Bynum would go out at the 8 minute mark of the first quarter and it was pau together with LO. This is when he was not hurt or in Phil’s doghouse. Then you’re citing the full 11 minutes allocated as time they were not on the floor together. That leaves 26 minutes they could have been on the floor at the same time. I could go on… WOW

          10. Maybe you can’t read, but I never said they were not on the floor together. In fact I said they played together a lot. My point was there was a large chunk of the game when they were not competing for rebounds. Around 11 minutes in this case. Hibbert and Randle played almost the exact same minutes tonight, maybe 1 or two minutes not together. There is only one ball and King’s shot a high percentage. Randle will be fine. He is averaging around 7 boards in 27 minutes.

          11. He liked them on the floor together to close out the games, but Lamar led the second unit. They played a lot of minutes without each other. No reason to argue this, they actually have stats that show this now.

          12. Just cause they averaged that, doesn’t mean there weren’t games when Pau or Lamar had 5 or less rebounds. Especially when playing less than 30 minutes.

    2. I said this earlier, Randle looks like he has the potential to be an elite wing defender, but his post defense/rebounding still looks like a project. He should work with Metta on that.

      1. Metta was never a monster on the glass. He was a great wing defender and good scorer in his prime. Nothing about Metta says PF development. IJS

        1. Yeah man exactly. Randle has been defending wing players great and aggressive like Burke and tonight in Gay, but maybe Metta can’t preach post defense or rebounding as you pointed out. Wonder if the FO is trying to make Randle the next SF LeBron or PF Griffin. Randle also seems to hit his jump shots in practice, but in game hasn’t looked that great, so more questions

          1. Don’t get me wrong, I’m sure Metta knows a lil something bout low post D but crashing the glass like Barkley or Rodman is another thing.

  • Just face it.. the Lakers will have a worse record this year than last.. you guys were lucky to win 20 games last year

    1. Last year’s team would have done better if Byron wasn’t trying to tank. Marginalizing everyone by making them take turns in his dog house actually pisses people off.

    1. JLIN goes to Charlotte and all of a sudden they are 3-0.. coincidence or just knowing how to use your players?

  • Funny how you guys are debating which point guard is better between Clarkson and Russell.. but the best PG you guys had was the one you didnt re-sign.. Mr Jeremy Lin

    1. “We just got Jeremy Lin, who I think is going to be our biggest acquisition. His penetration, his shooting capability, his point guard savvy, he can really pass the basketball, his energy about the game of basketball is something.”
      – Michael Jordan.

      But what does he know about basketball?

        1. Huh?
          What does religion have to do with basketball?

          If it did, then God is a Lakers fan, and for all the praying Lin does, it still doesn’t make him anything more than a borderline starter.

          1. Your statements are a joke.. you will learn this season just how good Lin is.. stay tuned and be sure to turn in 8AM on NBATV to watch Clippers vs Hornets in SHANGHAI!

    1. LOL you just now realize how incompetent your coach is? I told you guys this last year but you didnt listen

  • Byron has to do a better job of getting his shooters open looks. Brown should be taking more shots

        1. And if Randy wasn’t here, it’d be a more pleasant website. But I’m sure we’d both agree to disagree. SMH.

        2. Especially if they had Steve Nash and Dirk Nowitzki right? SMH……

          This is preseason. The coach has a team full of players who have never played together. He has to take a look at what he has to work with and see what combinations will work best for the regular season.

          He is also trying to see what players to keep and which he will cut.

          Then players like Kobe who has been away from the game for 9 months needs to get some shots up in a game time situation to round himself back into high level playing condition.

          So winning a preseason is the least of anyone’s concern. Sure they are not going out there trying to lose. But they have a completely new group of players. Certainly we should expect the coach and the players to need some time to all get on the same page.

          If you hand Byron Scott or almost any CYO,AAU, or high school coach the roster Steve Kerr was given with a group of players who were as confident as Mark Jackson had that group playing sure they would be successful.

          Go Lakers !

          Paytc

  • Funny how you guys are debating which point guard is better between Clarkson and Russell.. but the best PG you guys had was the one you didnt re-sign.. Mr Jeremy Lin

    1. “We just got Jeremy Lin, who I think is going to be our biggest acquisition. His penetration, his shooting capability, his point guard savvy, he can really pass the basketball, his energy about the game of basketball is something.”
      – Michael Jordan.

      But what does he know about basketball?

      1. I guarantee you, the reason Kobe and Byron did not like Jeremy is because he is an outspoken Christian. I guarantee it.

        1. Huh?
          What does religion have to do with basketball?

          If it did, then God is a Lakers fan, and for all the praying Lin does, it still doesn’t make him anything more than a borderline starter.

          1. Your statements are a joke.. you will learn this season just how good Lin is.. stay tuned and be sure to turn in 8AM on NBATV to watch Clippers vs Hornets in SHANGHAI!

    1. LOL you just now realize how incompetent your coach is? I told you guys this last year but you didnt listen

  • Byron has to do a better job of getting his shooters open looks. Brown should be taking more shots

        1. And if Randy wasn’t here, it’d be a more pleasant website. But I’m sure we’d both agree to disagree. SMH.

        2. Especially if they had Steve Nash and Dirk Nowitzki right? SMH……

          This is preseason. The coach has a team full of players who have never played together. He has to take a look at what he has to work with and see what combinations will work best for the regular season.

          He is also trying to see what players to keep and which he will cut.

          Then players like Kobe who has been away from the game for 9 months needs to get some shots up in a game time situation to round himself back into high level playing condition.

          So winning in preseason is the least of anyone’s concern. Sure they are not going out there trying to lose. But they have a completely new group of players. Certainly we should expect the coach and the players to need some time to all get on the same page.

          If you hand Byron Scott or almost any CYO,AAU, or high school coach the roster Steve Kerr was given with a group of players who were as confident as Mark Jackson had that group playing sure they would be successful. The Warriors had the deepest team in the league. Kyrie Irving, Love, and Varejao all going down to injury didn’t hurt the Warriors chances either.

          Go Lakers !

          Paytc

  • Tonight’s game is just another example of bad coaching by B Scott. During the 3rd quarter, Scott should’ve put JC at shooting guard, Russell at point, clearly JC was not going to get teammates involved and do it all by himself. Bad defense overall, no communications on the defensive end, too many easy shots giving up. This game is a reality check from the previous game against Haifa. This Lakers team will not win many games if they keep this horrible defense up, and coach Scott needs to find the right rotation, Clarkson is NOT a PG, Lou Wills can run point better than him. Russell needs playing time, you bring him in during 4th quarter where the team already down 10+ points.

  • Tonight’s game is just another example of bad coaching by B Scott. During the 3rd quarter, Scott should’ve put JC at shooting guard, Russell at point, clearly JC was not going to get teammates involved and do it all by himself. Bad defense overall, no communications on the defensive end, too many easy shots giving up. This game is a reality check from the previous game against Haifa. This Lakers team will not win many games if they keep this horrible defense up, and coach Scott needs to find the right rotation, Clarkson is NOT a PG, Lou Wills can run point better than him. Russell needs playing time, you bring him in during 4th quarter where the team already down 10+ points.

  • Sometimes you have to focus on offense to get better effort on defense. When every player is involved on offense sharing the ball, they will play harder on defense.

  • Randles TO’s still worry me. Missed the game but is A. Brown afraid to shoot? 2 shots in 31 minutes?

    1. He didn’t get many touches, still a rook, he needs to know his spot, where to get his open looks.

    2. Kobe and Clarkson were shooting too much. No real facilitators in the starting lineup. Randle was the only guy passing

    3. I’m not sure Scott has given him the green light to shoot.
      He did the same with Kelly, Nance, and Frazier.

      His points came off hustle and the random chance that he happened to be standing completely open in the corner and passing him the ball for the shot was the correct move by ANY NBA player.

  • Sometimes you have to focus on offense to get better effort on defense. When every player is involved on offense sharing the ball, they will play harder on defense.

  • Randles TO’s still worry me. Missed the game but is A. Brown afraid to shoot? 2 shots in 31 minutes?