D’Angelo Russell Is Still Loading For Lakers
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“The more I watch D’Angelo Russell the more I think he’s just another guy. Doesn’t stick out, doesn’t seem to make impact plays.”

“Right now, he looks like a rich man’s Kendall Marshall.”

“Lakers should have drafted Okafor… Russell is extremely overrated.”

“D’Angelo Bust-ell.”

These are just a few quotes that I harvested from the internet following the Los Angeles Lakers debacle against the Sacramento Kings on Friday night. D’Angelo Russell, the No. 2 pick in the 2015 NBA Draft, had just shot 50 percent from the field and scored 13 points to go along with two rebounds and two assists. For a 19 year-old playing against veterans the likes of Rajon Rondo, Rudy Gay, and DeMarcus Cousins most would consider that a successful night.

However, that hasn’t been the case so far for Russell. Fans across the league are chomping at the bit to label him a bust, and consider his struggles to be proof that the Lakers organization is in shambles.

There are two reasons for this, with the first being that the Lakers were embarrassingly blown out by the Kings, and the blame has to fall somewhere. Most of it has been directed towards head coach Byron Scott, some at Kobe Bryant, but nearly everyone on the team has found themselves within the public blast radius during this string of three straight losses. These struggles are exactly what fans were praying they wouldn’t see.

While expectations are relatively low for this season’s Lakers (by their standards, anyway), supporters are anxious to see the purple and gold claw their way back to contention. After two seasons in a row of misery, fans are looking for something, anything to give them hope for the future. Consequently, anything less than domination from the team’s young core of Russell, Jordan Clarkson, and Julius Randle is met with a disproportionate amount of frustration.

Secondly, Russell’s rookie contemporaries have almost all had at least one big game at this point, or at the very least shown flashes of brilliance. To the Lakers weary, sometimes paranoid fan base, the strong play of Jahlil Okafor, Kristaps Porzingis, and Emmanuel Mudiay, who the Lakers passed on to select Russell, is proof positive that something is wrong in the front office.

To that I say: breathe. Take a long, deep breath, hold it in, and then slowly exhale. Everything is going to be OK.

I get it, the Lakers have a ton riding on the development of their young players. The draft is now the best method with which to build a team, and with their 2016 first-rounder likely going to Philadelphia next summer and another one owed to Orlando in 2018, the margin for error is nil. Simply put, in order for Los Angeles to fully recover from the “basketball reasons” fallout, each of their young players have to live up to their potential — and then some.

That’s a lot of pressure to put on a bunch of kids, but these are desperate times. As a result, Russell is being unfairly raked over the coals, even at this early stage of the season.

Russell has unquestionably been thrown into the proverbial deep end, thrust into a starting role in front of the league’s largest fan base with just a year of college experience under his belt. Let’s not forget that Russell came from almost out of nowhere in college; no one was expecting him to be one of the top picks in the draft when his stint at Ohio State began.

Players like Okafor and Mudiay were touted as blue chip prospects for years, and playing in the NBA seemed to be an inevitability for them. They have had time to mentally prepare for this NBA journey, while Russell has had just months. His rise has been a whirlwind that would leave anyone’s head spinning, and the burden of not only adapting to being a professional athlete but also having the kinds of expectations that Russell has on him doesn’t make things any easier.

Furthermore, Russell isn’t the freak athlete that some of his compatriots are. Mudiay has a chiseled frame to go along with elite quickness and strength. Okafor is a mountain of a human being with almost comically huge hands. Porzingis is essentially a human Imperial Walker, stepping over everyone and everything.

None of those things necessarily equate to being a good basketball player, but they help. Most importantly, those physical advantages create a little bit of leeway when it comes to competing at the NBA level. For Russell, whose game is based around the use of angles and trickery, the margin for error is much, much lower because he can’t rely on his athletic attributes to carry him through. If Mudiay doesn’t come off a screen just right, he has the strength and quickness to create space and absorb contact. However, for Russell misreading an angle often means his attack is thwarted or his pass will be picked off. He has to play things perfectly, but so far, Russell hasn’t been able to hit that level.

It’s something he can certainly overcome. The NBA has plenty of examples of guards who weren’t elite athletes but still found success like Steve Nash, John Stockton, and Jason Kidd. It’s just going to take time for Russell to adapt to the pace of the NBA game.

We also can’t forget that the Lakers have a bevy of players who are more than willing to attack when the ball is in their hands, and the offense is currently run around them. Russell hasn’t been as aggressive as he needs to be, but he hasn’t been forced to step up the way Mudiay and Okafor have because he plays alongside Randle, Bryant, and Clarkson.

To complicate matters, Russell isn’t being put into an ideal offense- one based around the high pick and roll. At his best right now, Russell is a phenomenal passer who reads the floor better than most and can step into space and consistently hit the 20-foot jumper. More often than not, he is currently being used off the ball or initiating the Princeton offense with a pass to the wing and then cutting to the basket. The Byron Scott offense simply doesn’t play to his strengths at this juncture.

It’s the equivalent to asking Mudiay to become a spot up shooter or Okafor to be a stretch four. Russell gets criticism for not standing out, but he has yet to truly have an opportunity to play his game. Again though, it takes time. Russell has to prove that he is ready for an offense to be built around him before it can be done.

Rome wasn’t built in a day, and NBA stars aren’t made overnight. For now, just enjoy the building process and remember that D’Angelo Russell is still just a 19 year old kid. The skill and talent are there, so let’s give him a chance to grow as a player and a person before we label him a bust.

if it’s any consolation, here are a few other quotes about NBA players early in their careers:

“James Harden is the biggest bust of the draft.”

“…to this point Steph Curry has been a tremendous bust.”

It’s far too early to give up on Russell. Hang in there, Lakers fans, and try to practice some patience.

great article. people need to calm down. russell will be fine.

        1. nah i disagree with you here BP.
          3 games VS 3 years for bob sacre.
          it aint even a contest bro……..
          let it go like Disney frozen.

        2. no dude I have to disagreerussellisbust repect your opinion but russellis a bad pick should of taken mudiay!

        3. trust me i dont like russell neither but i do respect his skills and talent.
          just give him time youll be a russell fan in no time!

    1. Bp hes not a bust.
      I might not like how he tweets and talks online but the kid still has alot of talent.
      We cannot deny that……
      Give him a year or two at least.
      and people better judge kelly and sacre way before they even speak about dangelo……
      Stupid fans say stupid things ya know?

      1. Hello dude on ffense butthis one we have to admit hes not the one like julius or clarkson has he shownanything!

        1. he hasnt been showing much but its 3 games into the season.
          to me it doesnt mean anything….
          bob sacre has been here for 3 years and done what?
          yet people attack russell and sit there and let sacre be a bench cheerleader.
          cmon man that aint right…….
          3 games isnt 3 years let Dangelo do his thing.
          and this is coming from a russell hater too.

        2. Rob Sacre wasn’t a #2 overall pick hoping to save this lakers sinking ship. Jim was recently quoted numerous times saying “I think we’ve turned the corner with the Russell pick”. Think again, Jim. You have failed us so many times it’s almost comical. Picking okafor or Mudiay was a no brainier, and we passed it up. #MajorFail

        3. I know its only 3 games but when you’re team has the #2 pick and skips over the player many believe to be the #1 overall pick in the 2015 draft since he was in high school and you go with the guy who many people didn’t know anything about until a month before the draft should be cause for concern. This is why I’m glad my Sixers got the 3rd pick because I really wasn’t sure about anyone other than Okafor and at the time it didn’t seem like center was a position of need, glad you’re Lakers made that decision for us. On the other hand Julius look like the beast I thought he would be.

        4. i want him to show me why i should be a fan.
          prove something to me.
          and dont make it some twitter statement or something.
          show me on the basketball court make us believers.

        5. Come on. Let him grow. At least let him have the half a year we gave Clarkson playing off the bench. Why is Byron not protecting this kid? Sometimes Byron is such a weakling! Huertas is much more ready to start than Russell, Let’s start him and let Russell grow up a little.

          Captain Obvious also mentioned the Mike Brown-Byron Scott Princeton offense. If there is such a thing as a breakfast of champions, this is the offense of schmoes. If Byron can’t simplify and use these young kids legs better, he needs to go.

          At the very least, let’s hire Thibs as a “special consultant.” Is anybody impressed with Byron Scott’s defense? It’s one thing to see that we need to defend better, but it is another to be able to implement a system these kids can play well enough to get stops from.

          I take DP’s timely recall of comments made when Byron was fired from his last job as emblematic of his shortcomings as a coach in general: He gets in his own way.

          Are there any quality coaches out there that are willing to work for Jim Buss? That is going to be the big question again real soon.

        6. Byron plays favorites. He loves Clarkson and gave him free rein (okay yes the team did have a lot of injuries but you can’t deny he loves that kid) yet he seems to hate Nick (no matter how good or bad he plays) and now he is benching Russell because God forbid a 19 year old has some struggles adjusting.

          You are right that he needs to use their young legs. They should be playing a faster offense. More fast breaks but I have a feeling Kobe doesn’t want to play that way.

          Also they need to start Huertas, Clarkson, Kobe, Randle, Hibbert.

          Bench needs to be Russell, Williams, Young, Bass, Black. Anthony Brown needs some minutes somewhere in the mix as well. Lou Williams IS NOT a PG. The assists totals for this team are a joke. I might even get desperate and say play Sacre too cause the defense is even worse but at least Bob is 7 feet tall. There is never an excuse for poor defense because all it takes is some effort and communication.

        7. I notice how many people say that. How is Thibs such a great defensive coach? Why does it take a great coach to teach defense? Why can’t average coaches teach such a simple thing? Maybe it’s not so simple.

    2. Let’s not forget that Russel kid is just a year 1/2 removed from high school basketball bruh…..But here’s a lil Lakers history for you champ….On 5/12/1997 a 18 year old kid by the name of Kobe Bryant shot 4 airballs vs The Utah Jazz and Laker fan all over the world lost they mind…They couldn’t believe that this kid had the nerves to take those shots and was screaming ‘he’s a bum, get rid of him, bring back Eddie Jones.” Give Russell time to develop bruh, and if he don’t, then we’ll call the him “Kwame Brown 2.5″…..LMAO….

  1. Certain portion of the cry baby fans will have to be patient .
    D’Angelo’s a hands on learner, thus best to throw him into the lion’s
    den and let him either sink or swim. May be the best way for him to
    adjust the fastest, but Russell has to be more assertive to run the
    first unit as he seems very passive at times.

      1. Nah shtface, you’ll just look like a moron when he shows otherwise. By then you’d changed name b*ttface LOL.

        1. wow jim looks like you are show hurt that people are telling the truth mad bro lol!

        2. Nah, can’t appease the dumb one’s who have nothing better to do than b*tch. They should be complaining about the FO mostly as opposed to the players the majority of the time.

        3. cant tell that Jim who is a Neanderthal cant see things and is dumber than three stooges

        4. This sounds like the just a thought/Lin Win troll lol. You must not have wiped your behind correctly b/c your foulness is coming through the keyboard. Boom!

        5. wow I am not even lin fan so you just dumbly made your comment look lame lol boom!

        6. and you are probably a computer loser who has no friends no girl or anybody and just a loser for life sadboy lol!

        7. No, unlike yourself don’t spend my time here trolling. Contrary to your troll life.

        8. It’s dimwit, Neanderthal, go back to vocabulary school 101 lol! goodbye loser!

    1. I find NOTHING wrong with Russells recent game except for he needs get past perimeter defense a little more and make more of his shot attempts.

      I DONT CARE ONE BIT ABOUT HIS SPEED/PACE AS LONG AS IT WORKS!

      1. Cool, but it relates to being more assertive as opposed to passive. Often times it seems as they’re not running set plays while settling for ISO plays or forcing plays inside the paint IMO.

        1. If thats being assertive then I agree, but I see it more as his pace is not a conventional pace but it can be very effective. We have seen that it can be very effective. Im not concerned about his assertiveness at all.

      2. i dont care much what he does but if hes on the court he has to score more and do a better job at defense if hes not doing anything on offense.
        hes the #2 pick bro.
        we invested alot into him and everyone is getting upset.
        something has to happen or change for this to work.
        like they said on NBA tv and lakers sportsnet.
        on both shows they claim jordan clarkson a #46 is outplaying and outshining a #2 pick but you know what they are right.
        jordan is simply outplaying dangelo right now and it shouldnt be happening this way.
        dangelo should be making clarkson sit on the bench and fight for mins.
        do you see what i mean?

    1. the only 1 i dont like too much is russell….
      i hope he does well but im not a fan nomore.
      after his comments im done.
      but the rest i can feel you on them.
      bass follow dunks is like nance jr.
      i wish they played larry nance jr more often.
      he has no chance to do anything.
      cmon coach scott.

  2. Look you might be right its really early in his career but he has looked bad thus far. Glad you guys got him which allowed my lowly Sixers to grab Okafor.

          1. nah i disagree with you here BP.
            3 games VS 3 years for bob sacre.
            it aint even a contest bro……..
            let it go like Disney frozen.

          2. no dude I have to disagreerussellisbust repect your opinion but russellis a bad pick should of taken mudiay!

          3. trust me i dont like russell neither but i do respect his skills and talent.
            just give him time youll be a russell fan in no time!

      1. Bp hes not a bust.
        I might not like how he tweets and talks online but the kid still has alot of talent.
        We cannot deny that……
        Give him a year or two at least.
        and people better judge kelly and sacre way before they even speak about dangelo……
        Stupid fans say stupid things ya know?

        1. Hello dude on ffense butthis one we have to admit hes not the one like julius or clarkson has he shownanything!

          1. he hasnt been showing much but its 3 games into the season.
            to me it doesnt mean anything….
            bob sacre has been here for 3 years and done what?
            yet people attack russell and sit there and let sacre be a bench cheerleader.
            cmon man that aint right…….
            3 games isnt 3 years let Dangelo do his thing.
            and this is coming from a russell hater too.

          2. Rob Sacre wasn’t a #2 overall pick hoping to save this lakers sinking ship. Jim was recently quoted numerous times saying “I think we’ve turned the corner with the Russell pick”. Think again, Jim. You have failed us so many times it’s almost comical. Picking okafor or Mudiay was a no brainier, and we passed it up. #MajorFail

            No one wanted a player who, in a couple years may develope into something mediocre. This is a huge pick that we wasted for a young kid who will take years to develope. You’re asking for too much patience for something that may not even turn into anything. Unless he turns into a steph curry (which I highly doubt), asking for patience from lakers fans is like asking your gf to be rational. It ain’t happening.

            And PS we have been patient. Three years of some of the worst basketball we’ve ever seen with no signs of improvement. I’m not asking for a championship. I’m just asking for a respectable brand of basketball where opposing mediocre players aren’t scoring career highs and bad teams aren’t coming into our building and running train on us night in night out scoring 120+ points per game, breaking records over our heads.

            What I don’t get is, we lack major defense, yet coach Scott refuses to play Metta World Peace and sits Roy Hibbert most of the fourth quarters. We get smashed on down low (Dallas scoring 80 in the paint), and yet he keeps giving Ryan Kelly, who is an absolute joke of an NBA player, major minutes. I’d put in Larry Nance over Kelly in a heartbeat… Kelly sucks sooo bad! you’re only a stretch four if you can defend the bigs and get rebounds AND also make the outside jumper and defend the perimeter if needed. Kelly can’t even do any of those things.

          3. I know its only 3 games but when you’re team has the #2 pick and skips over the player many believe to be the #1 overall pick in the 2015 draft since he was in high school and you go with the guy who many people didn’t know anything about until a month before the draft should be cause for concern. This is why I’m glad my Sixers got the 3rd pick because I really wasn’t sure about anyone other than Okafor and at the time it didn’t seem like center was a position of need, glad you’re Lakers made that decision for us. On the other hand Julius look like the beast I thought he would be.

          4. i want him to show me why i should be a fan.
            prove something to me.
            and dont make it some twitter statement or something.
            show me on the basketball court make us believers.

          5. Come on. Let him grow. At least let him have the half a year we gave Clarkson playing off the bench. Why is Byron not protecting this kid? Sometimes Byron is such a weakling! Huertas is much more ready to start than Russell, Let’s start him and let Russell grow up a little.

            Captain Obvious also mentioned the Mike Brown-Byron Scott Princeton offense. If there is such a thing as a breakfast of champions, this is the offense of schmoes. If Byron can’t simplify and use these young kids legs better, he needs to go.

            At the very least, let’s hire Thibs as a “special consultant.” Is anybody impressed with Byron Scott’s defense? It’s one thing to see that we need to defend better, but it is another to be able to implement a system these kids can play well enough to get stops from.

            I take DP’s timely recall of comments made when Byron was fired from his last job as emblematic of his shortcomings as a coach in general: He gets in his own way.

            Are there any quality coaches out there that are willing to work for Jim Buss? That is going to be the big question again real soon.

          6. Byron plays favorites. He loves Clarkson and gave him free rein (okay yes the team did have a lot of injuries but you can’t deny he loves that kid) yet he seems to hate Nick (no matter how good or bad he plays) and now he is benching Russell because God forbid a 19 year old has some struggles adjusting.

            You are right that he needs to use their young legs. They should be playing a faster offense. More fast breaks but I have a feeling Kobe doesn’t want to play that way.

            Also they need to start Huertas, Clarkson, Kobe, Randle, Hibbert.

            Bench needs to be Russell, Williams, Young, Bass, Black. Anthony Brown needs some minutes somewhere in the mix as well. Lou Williams IS NOT a PG. The assists totals for this team are a joke. I might even get desperate and say play Sacre too cause the defense is even worse but at least Bob is 7 feet tall. There is never an excuse for poor defense because all it takes is some effort and communication.

          7. I notice how many people say that. How is Thibs such a great defensive coach? Why does it take a great coach to teach defense? Why can’t average coaches teach such a simple thing? Maybe it’s not so simple.

      2. Let’s not forget that Russel kid is just a year 1/2 removed from high school basketball bruh…..But here’s a lil Lakers history for you champ….On 5/12/1997 a 18 year old kid by the name of Kobe Bryant shot 4 airballs vs The Utah Jazz and Laker fan all over the world lost they mind…They couldn’t believe that this kid had the nerves to take those shots and was screaming ‘he’s a bum, get rid of him, bring back Eddie Jones.” Give Russell time to develop bruh, and if he don’t, then we’ll call the him “Kwame Brown 2.5″…..LMAO….

    1. Certain portion of the cry baby fans will have to be patient .
      D’Angelo’s a hands on learner, thus best to throw him into the lion’s
      den and let him either sink or swim. May be the best way for him to
      adjust the fastest, but Russell has to be more assertive to run the
      first unit as he seems very passive at times.

        1. Nah bttface, you’ll just look like a moron when he shows otherwise. By then you’d changed name b*ttface LOL.

          1. wow jim looks like you are show hurt that people are telling the truth mad bro lol!

          2. Nah, can’t appease the dumb one’s who have nothing better to do than b*tch. They should be complaining about the FO mostly as opposed to the players the majority of the time.

          3. cant tell that Jim who is a Neanderthal cant see things and is dumber than three stooges

          4. This sounds like the just a thought/Lin Win troll lol. You must not have wiped your behind correctly b/c your foulness is coming through the keyboard. Boom!

          5. wow I am not even lin fan so you just dumbly made your comment look lame lol boom!

          6. and you are probably a computer loser who has no friends no girl or anybody and just a loser for life sadboy lol!

          7. No, unlike yourself don’t spend my time here trolling. Contrary to your troll life.

          8. It’s dimwit, Neanderthal, go back to vocabulary school 101 lol! goodbye loser!

      1. I find NOTHING wrong with Russells recent game except for he needs get past perimeter defense a little more and make more of his shot attempts.

        I DONT CARE ONE BIT ABOUT HIS SPEED/PACE AS LONG AS IT WORKS!

        1. Cool, but it relates to being more assertive as opposed to passive. Often times it seems as they’re not running set plays while settling for ISO plays or forcing plays inside the paint IMO.

          1. If thats being assertive then I agree, but I see it more as his pace is not a conventional pace but it can be very effective. We have seen that it can be very effective. Im not concerned about his assertiveness at all.

        2. i dont care much what he does but if hes on the court he has to score more and do a better job at defense if hes not doing anything on offense.
          hes the #2 pick bro.
          we invested alot into him and everyone is getting upset.
          something has to happen or change for this to work.
          like they said on NBA tv and lakers sportsnet.
          on both shows they claim jordan clarkson a #46 is outplaying and outshining a #2 pick but you know what they are right.
          jordan is simply outplaying dangelo right now and it shouldnt be happening this way.
          dangelo should be making clarkson sit on the bench and fight for mins.
          do you see what i mean?

    2. FAKE FANS SUCKKKKK!!!

      GO RUSSELL, KOBE, HUERTAS, RANDLE, HIBBERT, YOUNG, WILLIAMS, BASS, METTA!

      GOOOO LAKERS!!!

      1. the only 1 i dont like too much is russell….
        i hope he does well but im not a fan nomore.
        after his comments im done.
        but the rest i can feel you on them.
        bass follow dunks is like nance jr.
        i wish they played larry nance jr more often.
        he has no chance to do anything.
        cmon coach scott.

    3. Look you might be right its really early in his career but he has looked bad thus far. Glad you guys got him which allowed my lowly Sixers to grab Okafor.

  • Yeah, I think it is unfair to judge guys who are 19 years old as busts. Curry, Clarkson, Lillard etc wouldn’t have even been drafted if they had entered the draft at 19. That is a very young age and your body isn’t done developing.

    1. If you watched Curry in his freshman year he dominated the competition at every level of college hoop; Russell didn’t do that. For sure Curry would have been a lottery in his freshman year but everyone develop at different age progression.

      1. yeah he dominated against “big time” college programs like wofford and samford and western carolina. he was basically an unknown until the 08 run to the elite 8. even when drafted nobody thought he was going to be this good. just a catch and shoot type player like his dad. please educate yourself

        1. Davidson had less talent than OSU and he took them further. Curry proved he could do it. Russell never proved he could do that. So that’s a big difference. Everyone wants to look at Curry and extrapolate Russell to being a star. That makes as much sense as seeing a 6’4″ PF and expecting him to play like Barkley.

        2. Curry freshman year vs Duke,Missouri,Michigan. All powerhouses and Curry in November of his first month of college played well against all three schools leading his team in scoring. They went into the tournament and again he dominated #4 Maryland scoring 30 pts before losing 82-70. In his second year of college he led his team to the tournament dominating Kansas in scoring before losing by 2 points to the eventual champion Kansas.

          For a freshman in a small school like Davidson that is impressive and teams usually double team your best player.

          Know your basketball JOHN.

          1. Russell said it for one. Something like I see a lot of my game when I watch Curry.

          2. That’s not true. He only brought the Curry comparison about his non-athletic profile. When it comes to modelling his game, the player he mentions is Ginobili.

          3. Harden has been another comparison for him. Honestly, I’d rather just see him as Russell myself and see that there is this 19 y/o kid who needs 3 years before he really becomes anything.

          4. “Similarities D’Angelo Russell sees with Steph Curry: ball handling, shot selection and work ethic”

          5. Ummmm Russell said it LOL! You’re a Lakers fan and a Sixers fan is here telling you what you’re player said? Thats sad.

  • Yeah, I think it is unfair to judge guys who are 19 years old as busts. Curry, Clarkson, Lillard etc wouldn’t have even been drafted if they had entered the draft at 19. That is a very young age and your body isn’t done developing.

    1. If you watched Curry in his freshman year he dominated the competition at every level of college hoop; Russell didn’t do that. For sure Curry would have been a lottery in his freshman year but everyone develop at different age progression.

      1. yeah he dominated against “big time” college programs like wofford and samford and western carolina. he was basically an unknown until the 08 run to the elite 8. even when drafted nobody thought he was going to be this good. just a catch and shoot type player like his dad. please educate yourself

        1. Davidson had less talent than OSU and he took them further. Curry proved he could do it. Russell never proved he could do that. So that’s a big difference. Everyone wants to look at Curry and extrapolate Russell to being a star. That makes as much sense as seeing a 6’4″ PF and expecting him to play like Barkley.

        2. Curry freshman year vs Duke,Missouri,Michigan. All powerhouses and Curry in November of his first month of college played well against all three schools leading his team in scoring. They went into the tournament and again he dominated #4 Maryland scoring 30 pts before losing 82-70. In his second year of college he led his team to the tournament dominating Kansas in scoring before losing by 2 points to the eventual champion Kansas.

          For a freshman in a small school like Davidson that is impressive and teams usually double team your best player.

          Know your basketball JOHN.

          1. Russell said it for one. Something like I see a lot of my game when I watch Curry.

          2. That’s not true. He only brought the Curry comparison about his non-athletic profile. When it comes to modelling his game, the player he mentions is Ginobili.

          3. Harden has been another comparison for him. Honestly, I’d rather just see him as Russell myself and see that there is this 19 y/o kid who needs 3 years before he really becomes anything.

          4. “Similarities D’Angelo Russell sees with Steph Curry: ball handling, shot selection and work ethic”

          5. Ummmm Russell said it LOL! You’re a Lakers fan and a Sixers fan is here telling you what you’re player said? Thats sad.

  • Great article, up until this day I really can’t understand how easily most “fans” give up on our players, Russell still has 2 more years to increase his height and muscle mass and I do believe Russell will be shutting mouths just like Julius Randle is doing right now.

    1. I think its his brand of basketball more than anything. He’s not athletic, and people are not used to seeing unathletic guys dominate the game. Hence the skepticism. You can count on one hand the number of unathletic stars in the league.

      1. Name some guards in the last decade that were rated below nba level athletes that did well in the NBA. (Curry and Harden weren’t rated below average nba athletes).

        1. Steve Nash and Jason Kidd were never good athletes. Those guys it was their IQ’s and their passing ability.

          1. your a joke nash inhis prime was quick and speedy russell is sloweer than a snail get it right dumbo!

          2. From draftexpress: (Steve Nash)

            Not incredibly explosive. Has an extremely deceptive first step. Able to stop and change directions on a dime. Possesses unbelievable balance and body control.
            Has little trouble turning the corner due to his blend of tremendous quickness and ball handling ability.

            (Jason Kidd)

            Has clearly lost some of his explosiveness in recent years
            Considered one of the top defenders in the NBA for much of the past decade. Lateral quickness not what it used to be…

            So I’d say Nash sounds around average and Kidd is above average. Not below average.

          3. Nash dealt with many, many years of back issues and such that robbed him of any athleticism he had. When he was with Phoenix and was a superstar there, that’s when he had health issues and yet was a 2 time MVP. You’re talking early scouting reports. Look at their later years as superstars, they didn’t have that athleticism to them.

        2. Some actually did say that James Harden was not athletic enough coming out of college. Same with Curry…They didnt think he had the quickness or athleticism to be elite.. He proved them wrong though..Which is what Russell will have to do too. Also there was Steve Nash, John Stockton, Mark Jackson, Sam Cassell and Gary Payton just to name a few others.

          1. Reread the question. BELOW AVERAGE ATHLETE. Feel free to use quotes to substantiate your claims that any of these are BELOW AVERAGE ATHLETES. FYI they thought Harden was not athletic enough to be a star but rated him as an above average athlete.

          2. Same with D Angelo….You are the one who says he is a below average athlete…But thats just not true. He is not an “elite” would be a more accurate depiction of his abilities also…..Correct or No??

          3. Not correct. I am using the info from draftexpress which rates him as a below average NBA athlete.

        1. CP3 is above average nba level athlete. He just not a freak athlete like Westbrook. That’s nothing to do with non athletic.

          1. Agreed…Same thing with Russell though…he has a 39 inch vert, and some quickness….he is not an elite level athlete at all. But he is a better athlete than he has shown so far thats for sure.

          2. I would bet any amount of money that Russell does NOT have a 39″ vert. That was based on an unsubstantiated rumor and is definitely not true. He faked those results.

          3. Well I mean you would lose that bet buddy…..smh. I guess the numbers are all based on the unsubstantiated rumor that he worked out for teams…and then he tricked us all by doing his vertical jump off of a stepping stool.

          4. There are ways to manipulate that number such as making your standing reach smaller. If his vert was that high he should of allow himself to be tested at the combine. Until he’s formally tested it’s really just guesses and by watching him on the court it’s pretty apparent that he does not have a 39″ vert.

          5. Everybody knows when your guaranteed a top 5 draft spot that you dont work out at the combines bro…..Karl Anthony Towns didnt do it either so I guess we shouldnt believe his vert, standing reach, and length number either according to your theory…which is undeniably subpar.

      2. Describing Russell as not athletic is a very poor choice.

        Just because Russell’s pace and style dont agree with you or conform to the norm for a point guard doesnt mean that he is not athletic.

        This the same exact thing people said about Randle last year before he even played and through summer league.

        Can we still say the same of Randle, labeling his unique style of play as not athletic?

        Lets broaden our basketball vision and learn to refrain from prejudging please!!!

        1. I agree with you bro!! lol. I’m talking about the guys who are dismissing Russell this early

    2. Let all the complainers about his non-athletic play not forget that he does have the advantage of being 6’5. At that height, I don’t agree with the writer that he has even a smaller window for error. In fact he has views that most guards don’t have. At this point the jury should still be out.

    3. He should but what if he doesn’t? Players turn out to be bust all the time. One half of the fan base hates him for lack of production and the other half are delusional and act like the Lakers are incapable of drafting a bust.

  • Great article, up until this day I really can’t understand how easily most “fans” give up on our players, Russell still has 2 more years to increase his height and muscle mass and I do believe Russell will be shutting mouths just like Julius Randle is doing right now.

    1. I think its his brand of basketball more than anything. He’s not athletic, and people are not used to seeing unathletic guys dominate the game. Hence the skepticism. You can count on one hand the number of unathletic stars in the league.

      1. Name some guards in the last decade that were rated below nba level athletes that did well in the NBA. (Curry and Harden weren’t rated below average nba athletes).

        Edit: Not directing this at you Ray. More a general question.

        1. Steve Nash and Jason Kidd were never good athletes. Those guys it was their IQ’s and their passing ability.

          1. your a joke nash inhis prime was quick and speedy russell is sloweer than a snail get it right dumbo!

          2. From draftexpress: (Steve Nash)

            Not incredibly explosive. Has an extremely deceptive first step. Able to stop and change directions on a dime. Possesses unbelievable balance and body control.
            Has little trouble turning the corner due to his blend of tremendous quickness and ball handling ability.

            (Jason Kidd)

            Has clearly lost some of his explosiveness in recent years
            Considered one of the top defenders in the NBA for much of the past decade. Lateral quickness not what it used to be…

            So I’d say Nash sounds around average and Kidd is above average. Not below average.

          3. Nash dealt with many, many years of back issues and such that robbed him of any athleticism he had. When he was with Phoenix and was a superstar there, that’s when he had health issues and yet was a 2 time MVP. You’re talking early scouting reports. Look at their later years as superstars, they didn’t have that athleticism to them.

        2. Some actually did say that James Harden was not athletic enough coming out of college. Same with Curry…They didnt think he had the quickness or athleticism to be elite.. He proved them wrong though..Which is what Russell will have to do too. Also there was Steve Nash, John Stockton, Mark Jackson, Sam Cassell and Gary Payton just to name a few others.

          1. Reread the question. BELOW AVERAGE ATHLETE. Feel free to use quotes to substantiate your claims that any of these are BELOW AVERAGE ATHLETES. FYI they thought Harden was not athletic enough to be a star but rated him as an above average athlete.

          2. Same with D Angelo….You are the one who says he is a below average athlete…But thats just not true. He is not an “elite” would be a more accurate depiction of his abilities also…..Correct or No??

          3. Not correct. I am using the info from draftexpress which rates him as a below average NBA athlete.

        1. CP3 is above average nba level athlete. He just not a freak athlete like Westbrook. That’s nothing to do with non athletic.

          1. Agreed…Same thing with Russell though…he has a 39 inch vert, and some quickness….he is not an elite level athlete at all. But he is a better athlete than he has shown so far thats for sure.

          2. I would bet any amount of money that Russell does NOT have a 39″ vert. That was based on an unsubstantiated rumor and is definitely not true. He faked those results.

          3. Well I mean you would lose that bet buddy…..smh. I guess the numbers are all based on the unsubstantiated rumor that he worked out for teams…and then he tricked us all by doing his vertical jump off of a stepping stool.

          4. There are ways to manipulate that number such as making your standing reach smaller. If his vert was that high he should of allow himself to be tested at the combine. Until he’s formally tested it’s really just guesses and by watching him on the court it’s pretty apparent that he does not have a 39″ vert.

          5. Everybody knows when your guaranteed a top 5 draft spot that you dont work out at the combines bro…..Karl Anthony Towns didnt do it either so I guess we shouldnt believe his vert, standing reach, and length number either according to your theory…which is undeniably subpar.

      2. Describing Russell as not athletic is a very poor choice.

        Just because Russell’s pace and style dont agree with you or conform to the norm for a point guard doesnt mean that he is not athletic.

        This the same exact thing people said about Randle last year before he even played and through summer league.

        Can we still say the same of Randle, labeling his unique style of play as not athletic?

        Lets broaden our basketball vision and learn to refrain from prejudging please!!!

        1. I agree with you bro!! lol. I’m talking about the guys who are dismissing Russell this early

    2. Let all the complainers about his non-athletic play not forget that he does have the advantage of being 6’5. At that height, I don’t agree with the writer that he has even a smaller window for error. In fact he has views that most guards don’t have. At this point the jury should still be out.

    3. He should but what if he doesn’t? Players turn out to be bust all the time. One half of the fan base hates him for lack of production and the other half are delusional and act like the Lakers are incapable of drafting a bust.

    4. Russell is almost 20 years old. Dude is as tall as he’s going to be. Size also isn’t his main issue.

  • This is a weak article. Harden and Curry showed in SL that they had the potential to be stars so using them as examples is just dumb. Harden had a 40pt game and Curry average 17.4 for SL.

    Russell was definitely the man in SL but failed to deliver. What makes you believe that playing against NBA level talent he would now be able to? Sounds like wishful thinking.

    Using comps of guys who struggled initially in SL and their rookie season, and then were able to perform is reasonable. Stockton, Nash, Billups. Lazy journalism trying to equate what Curry did in his rookie season and somehow if given the chance Russell would that is just weak.

    1. Actually it’s a great article. Fact of the matter is, the article is simply trying to preach that fans need to be patient with Russell. Russell needs time to find his way. In college, he admitted it took him about half a season before he really started to put his stamp on the team, get things figured out and get rolling. He needs to adapt to the NBA game, learn his teammates, their tendencies, learn the plays, everything. Need it be reminded again that he’s 19? It’s going to be about 3 years before he really busts out.

    2. Highly disagree!

      The point of this article is that fans are quick to prejudge and have no patience, which is 100% true, especially the younger, casual, fake fans!

      1. WE are not fake fans or youngsters lakers no lie erwho does not knowtalent russell isbustface it!

          1. Go back and read your last 5 posts josh.

            They look like chicken scratch.

          2. I am not josh Neanderthal, look at my pic loser idiot,and chicken scratch thats lame dude, come up with something better!

    3. How many years in college Curry played before he played in Summer League and how much years Russ played

      1. It’s called the internet. Feel free to use it to look up information. I’m not Siri.

  • This is a weak article. Harden and Curry showed in SL that they had the potential to be stars so using them as examples is just dumb. Harden had a 40pt game and Curry average 17.4 for SL.

    Russell was definitely the man in SL but failed to deliver. What makes you believe that playing against NBA level talent he would now be able to? Sounds like wishful thinking.

    Using comps of guys who struggled initially in SL and their rookie season, and then were able to perform is reasonable. Stockton, Nash, Billups. Lazy journalism trying to equate what Curry did in his rookie season and somehow if given the chance Russell would that is just weak.

    1. Actually it’s a great article. Fact of the matter is, the article is simply trying to preach that fans need to be patient with Russell. Russell needs time to find his way. In college, he admitted it took him about half a season before he really started to put his stamp on the team, get things figured out and get rolling. He needs to adapt to the NBA game, learn his teammates, their tendencies, learn the plays, everything. Need it be reminded again that he’s 19? It’s going to be about 3 years before he really busts out.

    2. Highly disagree!

      The point of this article is that fans are quick to prejudge and have no patience, which is 100% true, especially the younger, casual, fake fans!

      1. WE are not fake fans or youngsters lakers no lie erwho does not knowtalent russell isbustface it!

          1. sorry no hablo idioso who is illiegal person to this country faker! and my computer has technical lissues no english boy!

          2. Go back and read your last 5 posts josh.

            They look like chicken scratch.

          3. I am not josh Neanderthal, look at my pic loser idiot,and chicken scratch thats lame dude, come up with something better!

    3. How many years in college Curry played before he played in Summer League and how much years Russ played

      1. It’s called the internet. Feel free to use it to look up information. I’m not Siri.

      1. Morrison was a great college player but everyone knew he was either going to be a good shooter in the league or a bust. His shot stopped falling. Oden had brittle knees but still displayed the talent, Kwame Brown had small hands and couldn’t handle the ball very well because of it, Beasley is too busy getting stoned, Bennett was a true bust, a 1st pick in a weak draft where no one but the Cavs expected him to be 1st pick talent and Thabeet, I don’t know anyone who took him seriously as being too talented to bust.

    1. Yeah anyone watching the lakers can clearly see russell does not feel comfortable out there yet. It’s his rookie year he is 19 years old. He is still in a sorta nervous staged right now once he gets used to the NBA more and the lakers system of course he will be much better. As for his potential and who we could compare him to I would go with Chris Paul. Westbrook as well but take away the crazy athletic ability westbrook has obviously. Again though he is clearly not comfortable out there yet. Could be nerves could be he is not NBA ready. Only time will tell. Id look for russell to look a lot better come Christmas time or after new years jan 2016. We will definitely see flashes of his potential once he is comfortable out there.

      1. Morrison was a great college player but everyone knew he was either going to be a good shooter in the league or a bust. His shot stopped falling. Oden had brittle knees but still displayed the talent, Kwame Brown had small hands and couldn’t handle the ball very well because of it, Beasley is too busy getting stoned, Bennett was a true bust, a 1st pick in a weak draft where no one but the Cavs expected him to be 1st pick talent and Thabeet, I don’t know anyone who took him seriously as being too talented to bust.

    1. Yeah anyone watching the lakers can clearly see russell does not feel comfortable out there yet. It’s his rookie year he is 19 years old. He is still in a sorta nervous staged right now once he gets used to the NBA more and the lakers system of course he will be much better. As for his potential and who we could compare him to I would go with Chris Paul. Westbrook as well but take away the crazy athletic ability westbrook has obviously. Again though he is clearly not comfortable out there yet. Could be nerves could be he is not NBA ready. Only time will tell. Id look for russell to look a lot better come Christmas time or after new years jan 2016. We will definitely see flashes of his potential once he is comfortable out there.

  • “Russell is a phenomenal passer who reads the floor better than most and
    can step into space and consistently hit the 20-foot jumper”

    I have not seen it yet; Russell is a shooter who needs screens because as I’ve stated he has a very slow delivery mechanic on his shooting and he has been trying to make adjustments to improve on it. I guarantee if anybody would go and ask Tracy Murray he would tell you he is working with Russell on that; also I’ve seen his adjustments to keep his foot together on his jump shots which previously they tend to spread wide on his lift off the court floor.

    “More often than not, he is currently being used off the ball or
    initiating the Princeton offense with a pass to the wing and then
    cutting to the basket. The current offense simply doesn’t play to his
    strengths.”

    I disagree, Russell have been mostly playing off the ball and getting wide open but he is just not hitting it. The shooting adjustments will take time; he just needs to continue playing off the ball and everyone need to lower the expectations and let him develop. He will get better because he is a natural scorer but he isn’t a natural point guard.

    1. Go watch him in college go look how comfortable he is with running the offense and dribbling. He is not there yet with lakers. He looks like he doesn’t want to run the offense or no how too I think its because he still a little nervous. It will wear off. Once he looks more comfortable with the ball in his hands he will show you. For those that actually watch the lakers and are lakers fan if you watch summer league he showed flashes of his phenomal court vision. Even in 1 game in the preseason. So don’t give me this bs that you have not seen him be a good passer.

  • “Russell is a phenomenal passer who reads the floor better than most and
    can step into space and consistently hit the 20-foot jumper”

    I have not seen it yet; Russell is a shooter who needs screens because as I’ve stated he has a very slow delivery mechanic on his shooting and he has been trying to make adjustments to improve on it. I guarantee if anybody would go and ask Tracy Murray he would tell you he is working with Russell on that; also I’ve seen his adjustments to keep his foot together on his jump shots which previously they tend to spread wide on his lift off the court floor.

    “More often than not, he is currently being used off the ball or
    initiating the Princeton offense with a pass to the wing and then
    cutting to the basket. The current offense simply doesn’t play to his
    strengths.”

    I disagree, Russell have been mostly playing off the ball and getting wide open but he is just not hitting it. The shooting adjustments will take time; he just needs to continue playing off the ball and everyone need to lower the expectations and let him develop. He will get better because he is a natural scorer but he isn’t a natural point guard.

  • He will be great once we start featuring more pnr action. He has a great mid range pull-up and he can see.The rest will come with game time. The real question is “can Byron Scott maximize his abilities?”

    1. I disagree P&R is going to help his game much at this point. In P&R the big will show to give the defender time to trail and contest. Russell looks to get easily bothered when people contest his shot.

      1. Bass, Black, Hibbert, and Randle would be great in the P&R with Russell. Having shooters on the team as well, if teams collapse on the roll man, you can then kick out to the open perimeter shooter and get open shots. This team is actually built to feature it.

  • He will be great once we start featuring more pnr action. He has a great mid range pull-up and he can see.The rest will come with game time. The real question is “can Byron Scott maximize his abilities?”

    1. I disagree P&R is going to help his game much at this point. In P&R the big will show to give the defender time to trail and contest. Russell looks to get easily bothered when people contest his shot.

      1. Bass, Black, Hibbert, and Randle would be great in the P&R with Russell. Having shooters on the team as well, if teams collapse on the roll man, you can then kick out to the open perimeter shooter and get open shots. This team is actually built to feature it.

  • All those saying he is a bust have their own agendas, they are Kobe fanboys looking to deflect the blame or just have no trust in the FO for their very many past poor decisions. Impatience is the biggest thing driving these people. DLo may not turn out to be what we hope, but that doesn’t mean he does not possess all the tools to be a star, those saying athleticism is key, should look at older Jason Kidd, Steve Nash, John Stockton even Chris Paul and Curry aren’t all that athletic. It’s the athletic ones who tend to also develop serious knee issues too.

    That the Lakers passed on Okafor was an excellent call, he is also not athletic (averaging 5.3 rebounds per game) and did not fit with the Lakers other long term project Julius Randle.

    The real thing I believe keeping Russell from flourishing, is this system and the team mates he is playing with. Russell thrives coming off screens and in the pick and roll, yet they are not a staple of this offense. Nor does playing with Kobe Bryant help any point guard’s numbers. He has always suited non ball dominant point guards and that is why Ronnie Price and Derek Fisher worked well with him.

    For the record the Lakers are dead last in the NBA in number of team passes (240 per game), a full 20 passes less than the next worse team (the biggest gap between any of the teams). Kobe Bryant has passed the ball 56 times, he has shot 51 times. This is the worst ratio of any player currently in the NBA. How do you expect a point guard to thrive in these conditions to begin with? Set up for failure.

    1. nothing about russels game is ready. hes overthinking passes. hes slow to get the offense running. he takes screens like a snail.hes not even a back up pg yet

          1. Okafor was known to have a pro-ready offensive game and a limited ceiling defensively. The game has changed from center-centric to guard-centric since the NBA instituted the Shaq rules several years ago.

            The Lakers are trying to hit a home run with a player that has an unteachable skill (passing). Will it work? I don’t know. But I think the Lakers drafted for potential upside rather than pick a player with a known ceiling.

          2. For a 19 year old rookie how’s style of play has been undermined by rule changes he’s doing rather well don’t you think.

          3. Yet the nba changed rules to diminish his style of play yet it’s effective. Russell perfectly fits the current style of play yet isn’t. Weird.

          4. What rule change has there been to diminish Okafor’s style of play? If that was true, Howard would suck much worse, Al Jefferson wouldn’t be successful, Pau Gasol wouldn’t be doing as well as he still is. Back to the basket players have always done well in the league, Okafor’s problem is his limited athleticism inhibits him defensively. You put Okafor and Randle together and you have a packed lane with little defensive resistance inside. The only big option on that board that would have been best for the Lakers was Towns and Minnesota nabbed him at #1. Okafor was the wrong choice to pair with Randle.

            Okafor has a polished offensive game that was scouted to be pro ready and beyond his age. He’s blessed with that. Okafor will only get better with experience, but only as far as experience will take him. He will not vastly improve athletically or defensively. At best he could be an average defender if that.

            Russell despite not having athleticism has size and very long arms which could help make him a much better defender. That’s going to come with experience. He has a lot to learn as well with the team, carve out his role, figure where he fits in terms of plays, where his teammates like the ball, adjusting to the pace of the game, learning to let the game come to him and waiting for the game to slow down for him. Once the kid puts the whole package together, he’s going to be an amazing player. He has the talent and skill to do it, it’s putting it all together at the pro level.

          5. dudewhatswithyou andokafor hes doing something where isrussells heart and playDLO IS ABUST fact IT!

          6. Maybe you should look up several poster. DanFromMV states “The game has changed from center-centric to guard-centric since the NBA instituted the Shaq rules several years ago.”

            He’s referring to the rules that previously only allowed man-to-man defense to the present which allow zones.

          7. The best way to bust a zone is with a skilled big who can expose the middle of a zone when executed properly. The weakest part of a zone is the middle.

          8. And how many rebounds did he grab ? How about his defense in the PnR ?
            Okafor is going to get +20 shots per game as their first option. Towns has had a great night, but expect some lows as well. And to his own good, Garnett doesn’t monopolize the ball or take all the shots.

            You are quite the one sided type of fan.

          1. Dude I sware your like a propaganda machine with this bull man. Cut the hate and let the team play. You are WRONG mr. Stats are more important than any thing and are the absolute end all answer to everything go look up how many games in the nba d’angelo has played and u will see it is not 13 games It is 3!

            Even if you want to roll with the 13 games figure that you keep shoving down people’s throats, we will still know NOTHING about this guy even if hr dominates for the next 20 or cponpletely sucks! How many good games did linsanity have before the league put an end to that rubbish. Shut the F up and let’s see what happens. PATIENCE!!!! This is not a video game

          2. Lol I’m not even going to waste my time with you, your hopeless.

          3. Summer League doesn’t count and Preseason is all about getting guys time, getting them to learn some of the basics and for Scott to figure out what guys he wants to keep and his rotation. They don’t count.

          4. No they do not. Summer League is about getting guys feet wet, help them sort of pick up the speed a bit of the NBA game. He played with Clarkson, Black, and a bunch of guys that didn’t make the Lakers. There is nothing to be had other than a little extra experience. That’s it. Preseason, that has it’s purpose. The games don’t count, starters see limited minutes, each teams job is to use that to try out and see who they’re keeping. The games start when the season starts. Game 1 of the season is game 1.

          5. They are Summer League and preseason. Summer League especially is NOT an NBA game. It’s an NBA Try-out with hopes of locking a training camp invite. It’s also for freshman and sophmore guys in the league to get a little extra burn in to work on their games. That’s the equivalent of saying the Drew League is an NBA game. It’s not. It’s NBA sanctioned yes, but NOT an NBA game. Preseason doesn’t count either because of how it’s used and what it’s used for. It’s effectively practice games against other teams and training camp try outs to make the official roster. The 82 game season, those are the games, those are the real deal. Those are when you see a 12 man roster sitting at the bench with 8-10 guys being used in a regular rotation. Those are when the games matter. The season is all that counts. 4 games.

          6. they are nba game they are ran the the teams that own them under nba rules. they are nba games

          7. If the pre-season games count why don’t the pre-season stats also being calculated into the players’ stats?

          8. does that mean the playoff dont count? because the playoff stats dont count to player stats.

    2. What does Kobe have to do with this Russell article?

      IM A PROUD KOBE FANBOY AND I SUPPORT RUSSELL!

      NOW WHAT?

    3. Actually it’s Okafor fanboys looking to declare him a bust so soon, thinking that somehow Okafor would have been the saving grace of the team as a big. The only big on that board that could have been was Towns. Towns was the one guy who after all the constant evalutation, re-evaluation, reading up, everything that I would have taken over Russell. I was hoping and praying that Minnesota was going to take Okafor #1 when all the rumors were saying so.

      1. its not okafor fanboys dumb russelll fanboy hes the worst draft pick, are you in love with russell dude your acting like aweirdo?!

  • Is almost funny these guys who call D’angelo a bust. The guy is so smooth… All he have to do is work in his body, be more agily, increase his range for three (the touch he already has).
    He will be a superstar down the line…

    Same for the guys who call Clarkson better than Exum too… My goodness! Exum will dominate the league, but has only 19 years old. Sadly injuried his self.

    1. I wouldn’t say he will be a superstar. Maybe a all-star once or twice. I don’t see him being on Curry, Harden, or Lebron kind of superstar level. Randle I see is the real superstar for the Lakers.

      1. Randle’s skillsets are more apparent from day 1. he’s not perfect but having athleticism will help him be more.

      2. I actually don’t see curry as curry either. The curry that enter the league is weak and had bad ankles but look at him now.

    2. Those explosive athletic types are also far more likely to pick up those serious knee injuries too.

  • All those saying he is a bust have their own agendas, they are Kobe fanboys looking to deflect the blame or just have no trust in the FO for their very many past poor decisions. Impatience is the biggest thing driving these people. DLo may not turn out to be what we hope, but that doesn’t mean he does not possess all the tools to be a star, those saying athleticism is key, should look at older Jason Kidd, Steve Nash, John Stockton even Chris Paul and Curry aren’t all that athletic. It’s the athletic ones who tend to also develop serious knee issues too.

    That the Lakers passed on Okafor was an excellent call, he is also not athletic (averaging 5.3 rebounds per game) and did not fit with the Lakers other long term project Julius Randle.

    The real thing I believe keeping Russell from flourishing, is this system and the team mates he is playing with. Russell thrives coming off screens and in the pick and roll, yet they are not a staple of this offense. Nor does playing with Kobe Bryant help any point guard’s numbers. He has always suited non ball dominant point guards and that is why Ronnie Price and Derek Fisher worked well with him.

    For the record the Lakers are dead last in the NBA in number of team passes (240 per game), a full 20 passes less than the next worse team (the biggest gap between any of the teams). Kobe Bryant has passed the ball 56 times, he has shot 51 times. This is the worst ratio of any player currently in the NBA. How do you expect a point guard to thrive in these conditions to begin with? Set up for failure.

    1. nothing about russels game is ready. hes overthinking passes. hes slow to get the offense running. he takes screens like a snail.hes not even a back up pg yet

          1. Okafor was known to have a pro-ready offensive game and a limited ceiling defensively. The game has changed from center-centric to guard-centric since the NBA instituted the Shaq rules several years ago.

            The Lakers are trying to hit a home run with a player that has an unteachable skill (passing). Will it work? I don’t know. But I think the Lakers drafted for potential upside rather than pick a player with a known ceiling.

          2. For a 19 year old rookie how’s style of play has been undermined by rule changes he’s doing rather well don’t you think.

          3. Yet the nba changed rules to diminish his style of play yet it’s effective. Russell perfectly fits the current style of play yet isn’t. Weird.

          4. What rule change has there been to diminish Okafor’s style of play? If that was true, Howard would suck much worse, Al Jefferson wouldn’t be successful, Pau Gasol wouldn’t be doing as well as he still is. Back to the basket players have always done well in the league, Okafor’s problem is his limited athleticism inhibits him defensively. You put Okafor and Randle together and you have a packed lane with little defensive resistance inside. The only big option on that board that would have been best for the Lakers was Towns and Minnesota nabbed him at #1. Okafor was the wrong choice to pair with Randle.

            Okafor has a polished offensive game that was scouted to be pro ready and beyond his age. He’s blessed with that. Okafor will only get better with experience, but only as far as experience will take him. He will not vastly improve athletically or defensively. At best he could be an average defender if that.

            Russell despite not having athleticism has size and very long arms which could help make him a much better defender. That’s going to come with experience. He has a lot to learn as well with the team, carve out his role, figure where he fits in terms of plays, where his teammates like the ball, adjusting to the pace of the game, learning to let the game come to him and waiting for the game to slow down for him. Once the kid puts the whole package together, he’s going to be an amazing player. He has the talent and skill to do it, it’s putting it all together at the pro level.

          5. dudewhatswithyou andokafor hes doing something where isrussells heart and playDLO IS ABUST fact IT!

          6. Maybe you should look up several poster. DanFromMV states “The game has changed from center-centric to guard-centric since the NBA instituted the Shaq rules several years ago.”

            He’s referring to the rules that previously only allowed man-to-man defense to the present which allow zones.

          7. The best way to bust a zone is with a skilled big who can expose the middle of a zone when executed properly. The weakest part of a zone is the middle.

          8. And how many rebounds did he grab ? How about his defense in the PnR ?
            Okafor is going to get +20 shots per game as their first option. Towns has had a great night, but expect some lows as well. And to his own good, Garnett doesn’t monopolize the ball or take all the shots.

            You are quite the one sided type of fan.

          1. Dude I sware your like a propaganda machine with this bull man. Cut the hate and let the team play. You are WRONG mr. stats are more important than any thing and are the absolute end all answer to everything, go look up how many games in the nba d’angelo has played and u will see it is not 13, games It is 3!

            Even if you want to roll with the 13 games figure that you keep shoving down people’s throats, we will still know NOTHING about this guy even if he dominates for the next 20 or completely sucks! How many good games did linsanity have before the league put an end to that rubbish. Shut the F up and let’s see what happens. PATIENCE!!!! This is not a video game

          2. Lol I’m not even going to waste my time with you, your hopeless.

          3. Summer League doesn’t count and Preseason is all about getting guys time, getting them to learn some of the basics and for Scott to figure out what guys he wants to keep and his rotation. They don’t count.

          4. No they do not. Summer League is about getting guys feet wet, help them sort of pick up the speed a bit of the NBA game. He played with Clarkson, Black, and a bunch of guys that didn’t make the Lakers. There is nothing to be had other than a little extra experience. That’s it. Preseason, that has it’s purpose. The games don’t count, starters see limited minutes, each teams job is to use that to try out and see who they’re keeping. The games start when the season starts. Game 1 of the season is game 1.

          5. They are Summer League and preseason. Summer League especially is NOT an NBA game. It’s an NBA Try-out with hopes of locking a training camp invite. It’s also for freshman and sophmore guys in the league to get a little extra burn in to work on their games. That’s the equivalent of saying the Drew League is an NBA game. It’s not. It’s NBA sanctioned yes, but NOT an NBA game. Preseason doesn’t count either because of how it’s used and what it’s used for. It’s effectively practice games against other teams and training camp try outs to make the official roster. The 82 game season, those are the games, those are the real deal. Those are when you see a 12 man roster sitting at the bench with 8-10 guys being used in a regular rotation. Those are when the games matter. The season is all that counts. 4 games.

          6. they are nba game they are ran the the teams that own them under nba rules. they are nba games

          7. If the pre-season games count why don’t the pre-season stats also being calculated into the players’ stats?

          8. does that mean the playoff dont count? because the playoff stats dont count to player stats.

    2. What does Kobe have to do with this Russell article?

      IM A PROUD KOBE FANBOY AND I SUPPORT RUSSELL!

      NOW WHAT?

    3. Actually it’s Okafor fanboys looking to declare him a bust so soon, thinking that somehow Okafor would have been the saving grace of the team as a big. The only big on that board that could have been was Towns. Towns was the one guy who after all the constant evalutation, re-evaluation, reading up, everything that I would have taken over Russell. I was hoping and praying that Minnesota was going to take Okafor #1 when all the rumors were saying so.

      1. its not okafor fanboys dumb russelll fanboy hes the worst draft pick, are you in love with russell dude your acting like aweirdo?!

  • Is almost funny these guys who call D’angelo a bust. The guy is so smooth… All he have to do is work in his body, be more agily, increase his range for three (the touch he already has).
    He will be a superstar down the line…

    Same for the guys who call Clarkson better than Exum too… My goodness! Exum will dominate the league, but has only 19 years old. Sadly injuried his self.

    1. I wouldn’t say he will be a superstar. Maybe a all-star once or twice. I don’t see him being on Curry, Harden, or Lebron kind of superstar level. Randle I see is the real superstar for the Lakers.

      1. Randle’s skillsets are more apparent from day 1. he’s not perfect but having athleticism will help him be more.

      2. I actually don’t see curry as curry either. The curry that enter the league is weak and had bad ankles but look at him now.

    2. Those explosive athletic types are also far more likely to pick up those serious knee injuries too.

  • Its not just Russle the entire team isn’t good and this is probably going to be the same as it was for the last 3 years. Lakers just couldn’t get lucky with the right team.

    1. The team isn’t good “now”. Randle needs to develop his jump shot, Kobe needs to get his timing back and his legs under him again after that calf injury, Russell needs to put everything together (which probably won’t start coming together until All Star break at the earliest), the defense needs to learn how to rotate and cover Hibbert’s man when Hibbert is helping, Bass needs to knock down his mid range jumper again consistently.

      Sadly, one of the brightest spots right now to the team is Nick Young lol. 50% from the field, 50% from beyond the arc, he’s made a few nice defensive plays too. Same guy everyone wanted gone during the offseason is one of the brightest spots right now. With him, I said that when there were other scoring options around and teams couldn’t load up on him like they did last year when everyone got hurt, he’d improve. His shot would fall again. Everyone got hurt, he became the primary guy, teams loaded up and he struggled and kept getting hurt. Now, he’s showing again why he’s Swaggy P.

  • Its not just Russle the entire team isn’t good and this is probably going to be the same as it was for the last 3 years. Lakers just couldn’t get lucky with the right team.

    1. The team isn’t good “now”. Randle needs to develop his jump shot, Kobe needs to get his timing back and his legs under him again after that calf injury, Russell needs to put everything together (which probably won’t start coming together until All Star break at the earliest), the defense needs to learn how to rotate and cover Hibbert’s man when Hibbert is helping, Bass needs to knock down his mid range jumper again consistently.

      Sadly, one of the brightest spots right now to the team is Nick Young lol. 50% from the field, 50% from beyond the arc, he’s made a few nice defensive plays too. Same guy everyone wanted gone during the offseason is one of the brightest spots right now. With him, I said that when there were other scoring options around and teams couldn’t load up on him like they did last year when everyone got hurt, he’d improve. His shot would fall again. Everyone got hurt, he became the primary guy, teams loaded up and he struggled and kept getting hurt. Now, he’s showing again why he’s Swaggy P.

  • his ability to drive to the basket is a thing of beauty, he obviously doesn’t have the confidence(yet) or the physique to translate that to the nba yet. he has to hit basketball puberty to fully show what he can do……………… and in the process recruit ben simmons(i know I’m obsessed)

  • his ability to drive to the basket is a thing of beauty, he obviously doesn’t have the confidence(yet) or the physique to translate that to the nba yet. he has to hit basketball puberty to fully show what he can do……………… and in the process recruit ben simmons(i know I’m obsessed)

  • yea it does look like Russel body needs 2 develope still got sum baby fat so does J. Okafor n Jabari Parker. I noticed in SL he had a hard time beating guys off the dribble as da #2 pick unacceptable

  • yea it does look like Russel body needs 2 develope still got sum baby fat so does J. Okafor n Jabari Parker. I noticed in SL he had a hard time beating guys off the dribble as da #2 pick unacceptable

  • I can’t say i’ve seen much of the superstar talent from Russell. His passing hasn’t worked as often as it should if he has the uncanny ability to read the floor. His shooitng is just average. His quickness to create space and score is not there. He is very young and I sure hope he can develop his body and skills, because it sure ain’t there yet and if he doesn’t continue to grow he will just be a mediocre backup. Scott sure isn’t helping him with the style of play though.

  • I can’t say i’ve seen much of the superstar talent from Russell. His passing hasn’t worked as often as it should if he has the uncanny ability to read the floor. His shooitng is just average. His quickness to create space and score is not there. He is very young and I sure hope he can develop his body and skills, because it sure ain’t there yet and if he doesn’t continue to grow he will just be a mediocre backup. Scott sure isn’t helping him with the style of play though.

  • I think in order for russell to become a star, he needs to become a great shooter. He cant get to the basket at will, but becoming a dead eye shooter will unlock alot of the rest of his offense

  • I think in order for russell to become a star, he needs to become a great shooter. He cant get to the basket at will, but becoming a dead eye shooter will unlock alot of the rest of his offense

  • “Furthermore, Russell isn’t the freak athlete that some of his compatriots are. Mudiay has a chiseled frame to go along with elite quickness and strength. Okafor is a mountain of a human being with almost comically huge hands. Porzingis is essentially a human Imperial Walker, stepping over everyone and everything.”

    ….So why didn’t we choose them instead? Why did we choose Russell over them??

    1. Curry is one of the best 3 players in the league right now… and he is not “athletic” if you compare him to Lebron… but he is the current MVP and his team won the tittle… not bad for someone who isn’t a freak atlete.

      Athletic bodies isn’t everything, I prefer basketball IQ over big muscles, it’s harder to find.

      1. Curry isn’t an elite athlete but he still drives to the basket with ease. D Russell hasn’t hit shots, he doesn’t drive. Curry was the #7 pick. In his first game he had 14 pts/7assts and only took only 1 3ptr. First 3 games. 33 pts/ 20 assts/ 7 steals. 3/6 on 3 ptrs. DLO is already at 4/15 on 3 ptrs. No comparison between 2 “non athletes.”

        1. Curry was 21 not 19 when played his first nba game. Two years at that age are a lot, but that was not the point, I’m not saying that he will become Curry or something like that.

          I’m just saying that Basketball IQ it’s harder to find, Curry strenghts are his shoot and his basketball iq, Russell strenght it’s his basketball IQ. That’s all…

          1. Actually you used their similar athlecism together with iQ to make the comparison. Curry’s athleticism hasn’t change that much over his career, let alone 19 to 21. I’d expect D’angelo to remain below par athletic for the remainder of his career. The question is how will he get over that deficiency.

          2. What I said is that Currys main strenght is not atlecism, he is far away of some nba players.

            And about the age, is not only about the body, is madurity, experience in life and in games, etc.

          3. Russell has a shot as well, he just needs to settle in, get comfortable, stop overthinking and adjust to the game.

      2. Curry is a better athlete than Russell, and it’s highly unlikely Russell ever reaches Curry’s level of skill which is in the realm of best ever. Curry is elite or best ever in so many shooting categories it’s just ridiculous.

        1. Another one… I’m not saying russell is better than Curry, just that both of them have high basketball IQ.

          1. They wanted to believe they did. They saw what they wanted to see. Common mistake.

  • “Furthermore, Russell isn’t the freak athlete that some of his compatriots are. Mudiay has a chiseled frame to go along with elite quickness and strength. Okafor is a mountain of a human being with almost comically huge hands. Porzingis is essentially a human Imperial Walker, stepping over everyone and everything.”

    ….So why didn’t we choose them instead? Why did we choose Russell over them??

    1. Curry is one of the best 3 players in the league right now… and he is not “athletic” if you compare him to Lebron… but he is the current MVP and his team won the tittle… not bad for someone who isn’t a freak atlete.

      Athletic bodies isn’t everything, I prefer basketball IQ over big muscles, it’s harder to find.

      1. Curry isn’t an elite athlete but he still drives to the basket with ease. D Russell hasn’t hit shots, he doesn’t drive. Curry was the #7 pick. In his first game he had 14 pts/7assts and only took only 1 3ptr. First 3 games. 33 pts/ 20 assts/ 7 steals. 3/6 on 3 ptrs. DLO is already at 4/15 on 3 ptrs. No comparison between 2 “non athletes.”

        1. Curry was 21 not 19 when played his first nba game. Two years at that age are a lot, but that was not the point, I’m not saying that he will become Curry or something like that.

          I’m just saying that Basketball IQ it’s harder to find, Curry strenghts are his shoot and his basketball iq, Russell strenght it’s his basketball IQ. That’s all…

          1. Actually you used their similar athlecism together with iQ to make the comparison. Curry’s athleticism hasn’t change that much over his career, let alone 19 to 21. I’d expect D’angelo to remain below par athletic for the remainder of his career. The question is how will he get over that deficiency.

          2. What I said is that Currys main strenght is not atlecism, he is far away of some nba players.

            And about the age, is not only about the body, is madurity, experience in life and in games, etc.

          3. Russell has a shot as well, he just needs to settle in, get comfortable, stop overthinking and adjust to the game.

      2. Curry is a better athlete than Russell, and it’s highly unlikely Russell ever reaches Curry’s level of skill which is in the realm of best ever. Curry is elite or best ever in so many shooting categories it’s just ridiculous.

        1. Another one… I’m not saying russell is better than Curry, just that both of them have high basketball IQ.

          1. They wanted to believe they did. They saw what they wanted to see. Common mistake.

  • Russell has great court vision, he read his teammates moves different than the rest of the players. I think this is the hardest thing to teach… so he will be fine, he need more nba games to addapt, but he will be a great pg…

    1. You can’t teach quickness or length. You do realize Curry was rated as a better athlete than Russell (average vs below average)? It’s hard seeing him reaching Curry level skill that just doesn’t seem humanly possible.

      1. Yeap, Curry is quicker, and you can’t teach quickness, but we are talking about the best basketball player in the league right now.

        But my point is that you don’t have to be Usain Bolt to be a good pg. If you see the court in a different way the rest of the players do, that’s a great weapon to use.

        1. IQ is great weapon if you have other tools. Luke has great IQ and great court vision but guys like Grainger get to the all-star game.

          1. Let’s give Russell a little time, is to soon to judge, and I think putting a lot of pressure over his shoulders is the worst thing we can do. We have to let him develop, support him as Lakers fan, I think we all want to see him become a true NBA player.

          2. hes the idiot who said he could contribute quick and is the best in the draft if you talk then prove that talk!

          3. That prooves he is immature, he needs time to become a mature player and a mature guy.

          4. I doubt the LAL give him that time. We’re suppose to be back in the WCF in two years remember (according to Jim and Jeanie Buss).

          5. Yes, but I see some bright spots, Randle, Clarkson, Hibbert is doing better that I expected, we will have some cap space, and with some work, Russell will be much better in 2 years.

          6. how will he if hes suckingnowusually even if theystruglefirstyear topplayers showflashes and terror to teams that theregood,did you seetheteamsrecently justletrussell outthere likehe not athreat!

          7. I hear what you’re saying, but you should affirm that fans aren’t thrilled with the progress. Summer league. Camp. Go time. Like other people said, he hyped himself up, time is already passed to show who he is.

            The last thing I want to see is Steve Blake Jr. Hi IQ. Not too athletic. Doesn’t drive. Shoots from the perimeter all the time.

          8. dontinsilt steve at least he madeshots andsomeclutch ones and he did make some shots going inthe lane, Russellhas notdrivenand thetimehedid okafor smashed his lay-up1

        2. So your point is correct but it’s a hard analogy to make when it implies developing some insane level skill to compensate. All Curry’s success flow directly from the ability to shoot the quickest ever, at an extremely high level of accuracy, with a defender glued next to him. Curry is going to be considered the greatest shooter to play in the NBA of all time. That’s a very high bar.

          1. Here are a few reasons why I don’t think Russell is, or potentially will be anything special.

            Athletically – sub par. He’s on the Kendall Marshall level here in terms of quickness and speed. I get it, there are guards in the NBA without much athleticism and have been highly successful; Curry, Kyrie, Conley(even he is quick though) that brings me to the next point.

            Handles – mediocre at best. Curry, yes, known for his quick jumpshot, but more so. Have you seen this guys handle? He dribbles through 4 defenders with ease and gets to where he wants. The issue with Russell is that his handle is just mediocre. That’s an issue when a big switches onto him after a screen and he isn’t able to beat him off the dribble. I’ve seen so many instances where Russell has to settle for a step back contested jumper because of this.

            Defense – PPG, ASST, REB are all where we point to, to define a good point guard, or star but what use is it of you score 15, and the opposing point guard scores 25. It’s a losing battle. Russell is athletically challenged so much so that he isn’t able to guard any of the top guys in the league. That’s an issue!

            Like others have mentioned, stars in the league have shown flashes. Whether in per minute efficiency, or when they’re placed among lesser competition and they dominate (Lillard and all other SL killers).

            All this to say, he’s got some serious hills to climb to be the guy that everyone imagines him to be at the #2 pick. I’d much prefer Mudiay and Randle, or better yet Okafor and Payton.

          2. Agreed. people usually dismiss my criticism as learning curve but that’s a lot for someone to overcome. As I stated earlier if he was a mid-first people would be more patient. As a #2 he doesn’t have that time.

  • Russell has great court vision, he read his teammates moves different than the rest of the players. I think this is the hardest thing to teach… so he will be fine, he need more nba games to addapt, but he will be a great pg…

    1. You can’t teach quickness or length. You do realize Curry was rated as a better athlete than Russell (average vs below average)? It’s hard seeing him reaching Curry level skill that just doesn’t seem humanly possible.

      1. Yeap, Curry is quicker, and you can’t teach quickness, but we are talking about the best basketball player in the league right now.

        But my point is that you don’t have to be Usain Bolt to be a good pg. If you see the court in a different way the rest of the players do, that’s a great weapon to use.

        1. IQ is great weapon if you have other tools. Luke has great IQ and great court vision but guys like Grainger get to the all-star game.

          1. Let’s give Russell a little time, is to soon to judge, and I think putting a lot of pressure over his shoulders is the worst thing we can do. We have to let him develop, support him as Lakers fan, I think we all want to see him become a true NBA player.

          2. hes the idiot who said he could contribute quick and is the best in the draft if you talk then prove that talk!

          3. That prooves he is immature, he needs time to become a mature player and a mature guy.

          4. I doubt the LAL give him that time. We’re suppose to be back in the WCF in two years remember (according to Jim and Jeanie Buss).

          5. Yes, but I see some bright spots, Randle, Clarkson, Hibbert is doing better that I expected, we will have some cap space, and with some work, Russell will be much better in 2 years.

          6. how will he if hes suckingnowusually even if theystruglefirstyear topplayers showflashes and terror to teams that theregood,did you seetheteamsrecently justletrussell outthere likehe not athreat!

          7. I hear what you’re saying, but you should affirm that fans aren’t thrilled with the progress. Summer league. Camp. Go time. Like other people said, he hyped himself up, time is already passed to show who he is.

            The last thing I want to see is Steve Blake Jr. Hi IQ. Not too athletic. Doesn’t drive. Shoots from the perimeter all the time.

          8. dontinsilt steve at least he madeshots andsomeclutch ones and he did make some shots going inthe lane, Russellhas notdrivenand thetimehedid okafor smashed his lay-up1

        2. So your point is correct but it’s a hard analogy to make when it implies developing some insane level skill to compensate. All Curry’s success flow directly from the ability to shoot the quickest ever, at an extremely high level of accuracy, with a defender glued next to him. Curry is going to be considered the greatest shooter to play in the NBA of all time. That’s a very high bar.

          1. Here are a few reasons why I don’t think Russell is, or potentially will be anything special.

            Athletically – sub par. He’s on the Kendall Marshall level here in terms of quickness and speed. I get it, there are guards in the NBA without much athleticism and have been highly successful; Curry, Kyrie, Conley(even he is quick though) that brings me to the next point.

            Handles – mediocre at best. Curry, yes, known for his quick jumpshot, but more so. Have you seen this guys handle? He dribbles through 4 defenders with ease and gets to where he wants. The issue with Russell is that his handle is just mediocre. That’s an issue when a big switches onto him after a screen and he isn’t able to beat him off the dribble. I’ve seen so many instances where Russell has to settle for a step back contested jumper because of this.

            Defense – PPG, ASST, REB are all where we point to, to define a good point guard, or star. He’s standing still out there.. What use is it of you score 15, and the opposing point guard scores 25. It’s a losing battle. Russell is athletically challenged so much so that he isn’t able to guard any of the top guys in the league. That’s an issue!

            Like others have mentioned, stars in the league have shown flashes. Whether in per minute efficiency, or when they’re placed among lesser competition and they dominate (Lillard and all other SL killers). None of which Russell seems to have been able to do.

            All this to say, he’s got some serious hills to climb to be the guy that everyone imagines him to be at the #2 pick. I’d much prefer Mudiay and Randle, or better yet Okafor and Payton.

          2. Agreed. people usually dismiss my criticism as learning curve but that’s a lot for someone to overcome. As I stated earlier if he was a mid-first people would be more patient. As a #2 he doesn’t have that time.

  • Kobe’s first season stats: 71 games, 15.5 MPG, 1.9 Reb, 1.3 Ast, 7.6 Ppg, 1.6 tov.

    So, if we go with some NBA fans logic, Kobe is a bust…

    You can’t judge a 19 years old kid with his 3 first games.

    1. Here is quote from Alan Gentry about Kobe’s play during SL his rookie season: “He’s impressive. I’ve never seen a better player at his age at his position.”

      Seems most good players show flashes early on. Even 3 games in.

      1. Also worth noting that many coaches and scouts said the same thing about Russell last season during college ball.

        1. College doesn’t count. Talent level is too all over the place or else Jimmer Fredette would be a great NBA player.

          1. Summer league isn’t much different. Especially back when Kobe was a rookie where not very many teams participated or cared about it.

      2. Duncan said my pick Porzingis was impressive. Dirk sees Randle as a special player. MJ saw alot of himnself in Kobe. Stars get noticed.

        1. dont forget randolph said of clarkson last year2nd round pick whos scouting these guys today, hes a top pick!

    2. I picked Kobe for ROY, so yeah, that was kinda of disappointing. But that was because he didn’t get any minutes behind Eddie Jones. 8pts in 16 min as a role player ain’t a bust, especially with the skillset he showed – every bit jordanesque.

      Russell gets 25 min/game in a starter role. a good pass here and there.

          1. and russell has been clanking shots dumbo its usual for guard to make turnover they handle the ball the most and rusell has made turnovers himself!s

          2. He hasn’t had in 11 in a game yet and thats too high regardless…last time I checked Mudiay is clanking shots as well lol

          3. last I checked russellhad 0assistslatgame and really nogoodpointsso your invalid lol!

        1. It’s a stupid stat because this season just started but, Mudiay 6.3 TOV vs 1.7 Russell

          I’m not saying Russell is better than Mudiay, it’s to early to know that, but we have to be pacient and let Russell develop. The worst thing we can do it’s put a lot of pressure on him, and that’s what we are doing.

          1. actually mudiayiswayfarout better thanrusell thereason forturnovers isbecause he isdriving and doing something ratherhave that thanpathetic weakling dlo stupid!

          2. Same conclusion, give the kid some time to develop, stop putting that pressure over him.

          3. Russell ain’t that much better in the TOV department. 5 assts to 5 TO. EM has 16 assts to 19 TO. Mudiay just has more opportunities to screw up because his coach told him he could make mistakes.

          4. I said that because sometimes we just see the good things in other team players and we don’t see their mistakes. Maybe if Byron let Russell be the true pg he will have the same numbers as Mudiay in ast and tov, but some people will just see the tovs…

    3. But Kobe was a bench player getting crumb minutes, Russell is the starting point guard with starters minutes. Get it now?

      1. Kobe has 15.5 MPG in his first season, not bad for a rookie.

        Russell average 25 MPG with 9 PPG, 2.7 RPG and 1.7 APG and he has only 3 games.

        I’m not saying he is like Kobe or anything like that, I’m just saying that is normal to have those numbers at his age, in his first season, and in his first 3 games, it doesn’t matter if he starts or play from the bench, these are his first 3 games at nba level, you can’t judge anyone in this situation, he may become a star, he may be a bust, but you don’t know yet… get it now?

  • Kobe’s first season stats: 71 games, 15.5 MPG, 1.9 Reb, 1.3 Ast, 7.6 Ppg, 1.6 tov.

    So, if we go with some NBA fans logic, Kobe is a bust…

    You can’t judge a 19 years old kid with his 3 first games.

    1. Here is quote from Alan Gentry about Kobe’s play during SL his rookie season: “He’s impressive. I’ve never seen a better player at his age at his position.”

      Seems most good players show flashes early on. Even 3 games in.

      1. Also worth noting that many coaches and scouts said the same thing about Russell last season during college ball.

        1. College doesn’t count. Talent level is too all over the place or else Jimmer Fredette would be a great NBA player.

          1. Summer league isn’t much different. Especially back when Kobe was a rookie where not very many teams participated or cared about it.

      2. Duncan said my pick Porzingis was impressive. Dirk sees Randle as a special player. MJ saw alot of himnself in Kobe. Stars get noticed.

        1. dont forget randolph said of clarkson last year2nd round pick whos scouting these guys today, hes a top pick!

    2. I picked Kobe for ROY, so yeah, that was kinda of disappointing. But that was because he didn’t get any minutes behind Eddie Jones. 8pts in 16 min as a role player ain’t a bust, especially with the skillset he showed – every bit jordanesque.

      Russell gets 25 min/game in a starter role. a good pass here and there.

          1. and russell has been clanking shots dumbo its usual for guard to make turnover they handle the ball the most and rusell has made turnovers himself!s

          2. He hasn’t had in 11 in a game yet and thats too high regardless…last time I checked Mudiay is clanking shots as well lol

          3. last I checked russellhad 0assistslatgame and really nogoodpointsso your invalid lol!

        1. It’s a stupid stat because this season just started but, Mudiay 6.3 TOV vs 1.7 Russell

          I’m not saying Russell is better than Mudiay, it’s to early to know that, but we have to be pacient and let Russell develop. The worst thing we can do it’s put a lot of pressure on him, and that’s what we are doing.

          1. actually mudiayiswayfarout better thanrusell thereason forturnovers isbecause he isdriving and doing something ratherhave that thanpathetic weakling dlo stupid!

          2. Same conclusion, give the kid some time to develop, stop putting that pressure over him.

          3. Russell ain’t that much better in the TOV department. 5 assts to 5 TO. EM has 16 assts to 19 TO. Mudiay just has more opportunities to screw up because his coach told him he could make mistakes.

          4. I said that because sometimes we just see the good things in other team players and we don’t see their mistakes. Maybe if Byron let Russell be the true pg he will have the same numbers as Mudiay in ast and tov, but some people will just see the tovs…

    3. But Kobe was a bench player getting crumb minutes, Russell is the starting point guard with starters minutes. Get it now?

      1. Kobe has 15.5 MPG in his first season, not bad for a rookie.

        Russell average 25 MPG with 9 PPG, 2.7 RPG and 1.7 APG and he has only 3 games.

        I’m not saying he is like Kobe or anything like that, I’m just saying that is normal to have those numbers at his age, in his first season, and in his first 3 games, it doesn’t matter if he starts or play from the bench, these are his first 3 games at nba level, you can’t judge anyone in this situation, he may become a star, he may be a bust, but you don’t know yet… get it now?

  • This kid barely gets a chnace to run the offense. Give him some time, you can tell he has a good fell for the game.

  • This kid barely gets a chnace to run the offense. Give him some time, you can tell he has a good feel for the game.

  • If we are going to use Summer League as a measuring stick. Anthony Randolph will be the best NBA player to ever play the game.. Just keep waiting for it.

    1. yes summer league counts lookat clarkson he dominated summerleague and give teams fits whydidyouthinkmemphis put tony allen onclarkson a defesive sf!

  • If we are going to use Summer League as a measuring stick. Anthony Randolph will be the best NBA player to ever play the game.. Just keep waiting for it.

    1. yes summer league counts lookat clarkson he dominated summerleague and give teams fits whydidyouthinkmemphis put tony allen onclarkson a defesive sf!

  • I know one thing the Lakers and Byron Scott are tanking! & a few of the players are furious about it, they keep dropping seeds in their post game interview.
    Just listen to certain things they say about the offense, positioning, or defense, etc.

        1. Probably means Hibbert will not resign unless we give him an overpay.

          Maybe we should trade Hibbert and get something before we let him walk away.

  • I know one thing the Lakers and Byron Scott are tanking! & a few of the players are furious about it, they keep dropping seeds in their post game interview.
    Just listen to certain things they say about the offense, positioning, or defense, etc.

        1. Probably means Hibbert will not resign unless we give him an overpay.

          Maybe we should trade Hibbert and get something before we let him walk away.

  • lane, russell is a bust, noi.q. whatsoevre, hestupidlyfouled gobertandalmost injured himself, you have nojournalistic things inyoulane, pathetic journalism!

  • lane, russell is a bust, noi.q. whatsoevre, hestupidlyfouled gobertandalmost injured himself, you have nojournalistic things inyoulane, pathetic journalism!

  • Byron Scott is tanking early and it doesn’t sit to well with Kobe Bryant also is the Lakers system a good fit for players like Russell, Randle, and Clarkson?
    The Lakers would be better off if Kobe Bryant retired, John Smallwood of the Philadelphia Daily News opines. Bryant hasn’t been an impact player since the 2012/13 season and no longer serves a useful role on a rebuilding team, Smallwood continues. The veteran wing player doesn’t have the mentality to help develop the Lakers’ younger players and his burning desire to win actually hurts the team’s chances of holding onto its first-round pick, Smallwood adds. The Lakers must convey their 2016 pick to the Sixers unless it’s in the top three. Becoming a role player on a contending team via a trade or buyout doesn’t suit Bryant’s personality or ego, so there’s no point in Bryant continuing his career, Smallwood concludes.

      1. Lol idk either wsy Byron Scott not trying to win games he’s trying to win the lottery because his rotation sucks, his decisions suck, and when key players wind up do getting hot, he takes them out sooo yea maybe even by playing kobe

        1. Yeah, I mean I just don’t think this roster is built to win. To me this season was always just about development.

          1. Yeah I’m starting to see that now, i may be blinded by my own expectations, but really i see the tank, because we can win games and develop, their gonna get their development just by being at the game! Their tanking, I’m accepting it because I see it, Byron Scott slick man

          2. I see no rotation that will win games on this team. Not yet anyway. Maybe in a few months once the young guys get more comfortable with the NBA pace and competition. We have one good vet right now in Hibbert. Going to take time to develop some help for him.

  • Byron Scott is tanking early and it doesn’t sit to well with Kobe Bryant also is the Lakers system a good fit for players like Russell, Randle, and Clarkson?
    The Lakers would be better off if Kobe Bryant retired, John Smallwood of the Philadelphia Daily News opines. Bryant hasn’t been an impact player since the 2012/13 season and no longer serves a useful role on a rebuilding team, Smallwood continues. The veteran wing player doesn’t have the mentality to help develop the Lakers’ younger players and his burning desire to win actually hurts the team’s chances of holding onto its first-round pick, Smallwood adds. The Lakers must convey their 2016 pick to the Sixers unless it’s in the top three. Becoming a role player on a contending team via a trade or buyout doesn’t suit Bryant’s personality or ego, so there’s no point in Bryant continuing his career, Smallwood concludes.

      1. Lol idk either wsy Byron Scott not trying to win games he’s trying to win the lottery because his rotation sucks, his decisions suck, and when key players wind up do getting hot, he takes them out sooo yea maybe even by playing kobe

        1. Yeah, I mean I just don’t think this roster is built to win. To me this season was always just about development.

          1. Yeah I’m starting to see that now, i may be blinded by my own expectations, but really i see the tank, because we can win games and develop, their gonna get their development just by being at the game! Their tanking, I’m accepting it because I see it, Byron Scott slick man

          2. I see no rotation that will win games on this team. Not yet anyway. Maybe in a few months once the young guys get more comfortable with the NBA pace and competition. We have one good vet right now in Hibbert. Going to take time to develop some help for him.

  • Randle was just voted most disappointing summer league player a month ago by CBS Sports. Look at him now. Give Russell a chance to figure the NBA game out. He is looking better each game.

  • Randle was just voted most disappointing summer league player a month ago by CBS Sports. Look at him now. Give Russell a chance to figure the NBA game out. He is looking better each game.

  • Now I know its too early for tanking but…at this rate anyone thinking of Ben Simmons? Top 3 pick hm???

  • Now I know its too early for tanking but…at this rate anyone thinking of Ben Simmons? Top 3 pick hm???

  • Byron Scott, the Tanking-Award winner of 2014-2015 is back. His co-recipient, Derek Fisher, will co-win with Byron again this year. Prediction…Jim Short Buss will be back next year after some dramatic marketing gestures

  • Byron Scott, the Tanking-Award winner of 2014-2015 is back. His co-recipient, Derek Fisher, will co-win with Byron again this year. Prediction…Jim Short Buss will be back next year after some dramatic marketing gestures

  • What you failed to mention is that he and the Lakers organization invited the criticism by calling him the future. We had quotes from everyone with nothing but praise, yet through summer league, preseason, and the first 3 games there have been no flashes to give us hope. I understand it’s not completely his fault. But don’t tease me with I’m going to have the greatest burger and then drive me through McD’s!

          1. after 3 games we’re sure that Towns deserves the top spot. Okafor deserves at least the #3 spot. 3 year project Porzingis clearly ahead of his curve and worthy of at least the #4.

    1. Yes! and comps like Harden level scorer but the passing of Magic didn’t help his cause. I think the FO just overthought this one, he’s a mid-level first round pick.

      1. agreed wealeadyhad ourstating pg in clarkson weneeded asflikebensimmonsorsomething likethatin thatdraft!

  • What you failed to mention is that he and the Lakers organization invited the criticism by calling him the future. We had quotes from everyone with nothing but praise, yet through summer league, preseason, and the first 3 games there have been no flashes to give us hope. I understand it’s not completely his fault. But don’t tease me with I’m going to have the greatest burger and then drive me through McD’s!

          1. after 3 games we’re sure that Towns deserves the top spot. Okafor deserves at least the #3 spot. 3 year project Porzingis clearly ahead of his curve and worthy of at least the #4.

    1. Yes! and comps like Harden level scorer but the passing of Magic didn’t help his cause. I think the FO just overthought this one, he’s a mid-level first round pick.

      1. agreed wealeadyhad ourstating pg in clarkson weneeded asflikebensimmonsorsomething likethatin thatdraft!

    1. I agree he’s underperformed but let’s not call him a bust. He just should of never been picked #2. If he was a mid-level first, I think everyone would be fine with him.

      1. your rightI think even if wegothibbertweshould ofgotmudiay or a wingsf or a backuprookiebig like kristapsto back uphibbert!

        1. Bpowell1 you need a new computer. I feel like I am trying to translate a foreign language LOL

          1. sorry my computer type writer gives but yeah no offense to the kid russell but should of taken a wing or big!

      2. I wouldn’t call him a bust yet either, I’m on him because of he presents himself as elite. We had other choices. So far my pick, another 19 year old, has vastly out shined DLO and will continue to do so.

    1. I agree he’s underperformed but let’s not call him a bust. He just should of never been picked #2. If he was a mid-level first, I think everyone would be fine with him.

      1. your rightI think even if wegothibbertweshould ofgotmudiay or a wingsf or a backuprookiebig like kristapsto back uphibbert!

        1. Bpowell1 you need a new computer. I feel like I am trying to translate a foreign language LOL

          1. sorry my computer type writer gives but yeah no offense to the kid russell but should of taken a wing or big!

      2. I wouldn’t call him a bust yet either, I’m on him because of he presents himself as elite. We had other choices. So far my pick, another 19 year old, has vastly out shined DLO and will continue to do so.

  • I for one have been very pleased with Russell. He’s not the fastest or strongest, but he’s only 19 years old! Give him time for his body to catch up with his mind.

      1. Different positions. Not many PG’s doing that well. Mudiay looks exciting but also leading the NBA in turnovers.

        1. That’s a good argument. Yet I feel (which is a bad argument) that he should be doing more based on my basketball intuition. So we wait.

        2. Generally speaking too, bigs are the ones that need to get use to their body because of a sudden growth spurt. Which explains the lack of coordination. Usually guards have been guards. Not much of a difference in 6′ to 6’3.

          Mudiay leads the league in turnovers because he’s a rookie that is getting a feel for the nba speed. He of course also has the ball in his hands a ton. John Wall, and Russell Westbrook probably came in 1 & 2 in TO’s last season, yet it hasn’t diminished their return as super stars in the league.

          1. Mudiay is doing ok. He looks exciting, I see the potential, but he is a turnover machine right now.

          2. Russell’s turnovers are actually almost non existent. Very impressed with his control. Although Summer League was a different story.

          3. Russell isn’t even passing the ball enough to be a turn over machine. If he were passing the ball and turning it over at least we can say he aggressive. He not even doing that.

          4. He is trying. If Kobe could hit the broad side of a barn it would definitely help with assists for everyone on the starting unit.

  • I for one have been very pleased with Russell. He’s not the fastest or strongest, but he’s only 19 years old! Give him time for his body to catch up with his mind.

      1. Different positions. Not many PG’s doing that well. Mudiay looks exciting but also leading the NBA in turnovers.

        1. That’s a good argument. Yet I feel (which is a bad argument) that he should be doing more based on my basketball intuition. So we wait.

        2. Generally speaking too, bigs are the ones that need to get use to their body because of a sudden growth spurt. Which explains the lack of coordination. Usually guards have been guards. Not much of a difference in 6′ to 6’3.

          Mudiay leads the league in turnovers because he’s a rookie that is getting a feel for the nba speed. He of course also has the ball in his hands a ton. John Wall, and Russell Westbrook probably came in 1 & 2 in TO’s last season, yet it hasn’t diminished their return as super stars in the league.

          When you watch Mudiay play though, he’s 2 steps ahead of the play. His summer league highlights really give a glimpse of his court vision. It’s John Wall-esque

          1. Mudiay is doing ok. He looks exciting, I see the potential, but he is a turnover machine right now.

          2. Russell’s turnovers are actually almost non existent. Very impressed with his control. Although Summer League was a different story.

          3. Russell isn’t even passing the ball enough to be a turn over machine. If he were passing the ball and turning it over at least we can say he aggressive. He not even doing that.

          4. He is trying. If Kobe could hit the broad side of a barn it would definitely help with assists for everyone on the starting unit.

  • I might be sticking my neck under the guillotine by saying this, but I don’t think any player can bring out their TRUE potential unless being COACHED properly, and I have completely given up on Byron Scott. In my honest opinion, I don’t think this team wants the Princeton at all, nor his half-assed decision making. Nash questioned the Princeton, Lin couldn’t operate under it, the NBA practically defend easily against it, takes too much time do learn it, so on and so forth. Literally EVERY PG in the league has out-performed our PGs last and this yr so far. I bet if Russell was under Steve Kerr, or Eric Spaulstra, this would not be a discussion at all. Coaching plays a key roll in development, and I don’t think our team has that.

    1. I agree, Another coach could get more out of D’angelo. Not a big fan of Mark Jackson, but he’s a coach who could relate to DLO’s physical deficiencies and use him accordingly.

    2. This may be true but unfortunately LAL are not going to fire BS right now. At best they’d end up with an interm coach and still have to pay BS, and look like idiots. We’re just going to have to suck it up till the FO moves on.

    3. Agreed. Had Russell been running pick and roll in Summer and even preseason you would see much better numbers. It is what he is used to.

          1. they are. but in order to make the pnr work you need shooters at the 2 and 3 something clark and kobe are not

          2. Clarkson and Kobe are pretty bad 3 point shooters, but they will either have to get better at it, or make way for Lou, Young, Brown, Kelly.

          3. or you run the princton and russ just needs to hit open threes something he has not been doing

          4. That is fine, but just know it isn’t a system he knows or is comfortable in. Expect the learning curve to be much higher.

          5. i do. however when the draft was comming i pointed out why i would not draft russel and so far i have been 100% right. and im not seeing the flashes like i was hoping.

            i have seen a few but clark and randle showed me more flashes last season then russ has this season.

          6. Well Clarkson was 22. At 19 Clarkson wasn’t even good enough to make a high division college team. Randle is special, I admit. He is just an explosive player.

          7. I have nothing against russ. but we never should have drafted him he does not fit the needs of the team

      1. Exactly, an we have a coach only running a system based on his own liking as opposed to the strength of the players. Russell is not the problem at all.

        1. most coach’s run their own systems its the job of the fo to give the coach a team that fits their system

          1. Good coaches change their system based on personnel. Good coaches also run two different systems based on starter talents and bench talents. Pop is know to change his style every year and he’s has had the same players every year.

          2. Yes, and he let Kobe do his thing with was definitely not the triangle 🙂

          3. Don’t act like MJ fully ran the Triangle either. The difference is that MJ was NEVER the facilitator of the offense, whereas Kobe was. MJ was always on the back side where he could isolate. Kobe was always one of the parts of the triangle so the only way he could do his thing was to break away from it. Pippen was the facilitator for the Bulls. The Lakers didn’t have another guy during the Shaq and Kobe years. Odom did it a little during his time though.

          4. So your proving my point? Coaches adapt to their personnel and their system is just a framework from which to start.

          5. What Pop did was adapt. To say that Phil has ever adapted really shows how little you really know the game. Adapting is changing from being a half court team to being a transition team because you have the roster to do so. That’s adapting. Letting one player freelance at times is being flexible BECAUSE YOU’RE WINNING but is anything but adapting.

          6. Look at what Fisher is doing with the Knicks. It’s not the Phil triangle. Phil ran to different triangle offense with two different squads, I assume if the league was changing he’d change with it.

          7. First of all, Phil cleaned house with the roster for the expressed reason of getting players that fit the system. What system do you think he was talking about?

          8. They gave up on JR Smith, not exactly the same as getting rid of good players.

      2. I don’t see Russell as being a good P&R guard right now. The big shows and the guard contests from behind. Sounds like a bad recipe for a slow player who is easily bothered by contests. I watched Knicks vs Wiz and Sasha was able to do this to Beal. Sasha would be able to block Russell I would think (or at least make it a low percentage shot).

        1. I see it, even saw some of it last game. Couple of great PNR plays with Russell and Randle last game. It usually ended up with Randle giving the ball back to Russell but it was very effective. It was how Russell played in college. He would give up the ball, then rotate to the three point for an open catch and shoot.

          1. I don’t know. Defenses just don’t respect his game. It’s hard to draw conclusions when they go under screens leaving him open at the 3pt line type defense. When they are forced to guard him then we will see what he can do.

          2. They are actually pressuring him pretty hard. I think the scouting report on Russell is to apply pressure since he has trouble beating guys one on one.

          3. They usually lay off once they build a lead in the first. I was surprised Dallas hardly pressured him at all.

  • I might be sticking my neck under the guillotine by saying this, but I don’t think any player can bring out their TRUE potential unless being COACHED properly, and I have completely given up on Byron Scott. In my honest opinion, I don’t think this team wants the Princeton at all, nor his half-assed decision making. Nash questioned the Princeton, Lin couldn’t operate under it, the NBA practically defend easily against it, takes too much time do learn it, so on and so forth. Literally EVERY PG in the league has out-performed our PGs last and this yr so far. I bet if Russell was under Steve Kerr, or Eric Spaulstra, this would not be a discussion at all. Coaching plays a key roll in development, and I don’t think our team has that.

    1. I agree, Another coach could get more out of D’angelo. Not a big fan of Mark Jackson, but he’s a coach who could relate to DLO’s physical deficiencies and use him accordingly.

    2. This may be true but unfortunately LAL are not going to fire BS right now. At best they’d end up with an interm coach and still have to pay BS, and look like idiots. We’re just going to have to suck it up till the FO moves on.

    3. Agreed. Had Russell been running pick and roll in Summer and even preseason you would see much better numbers. It is what he is used to.

          1. they are. but in order to make the pnr work you need shooters at the 2 and 3 something clark and kobe are not

          2. Clarkson and Kobe are pretty bad 3 point shooters, but they will either have to get better at it, or make way for Lou, Young, Brown, Kelly.

          3. or you run the princton and russ just needs to hit open threes something he has not been doing

          4. That is fine, but just know it isn’t a system he knows or is comfortable in. Expect the learning curve to be much higher.

          5. i do. however when the draft was comming i pointed out why i would not draft russel and so far i have been 100% right. and im not seeing the flashes like i was hoping.

            i have seen a few but clark and randle showed me more flashes last season then russ has this season.

          6. Well Clarkson was 22. At 19 Clarkson wasn’t even good enough to make a high division college team. Randle is special, I admit. He is just an explosive player.

          7. I have nothing against russ. but we never should have drafted him he does not fit the needs of the team

      1. Exactly, an we have a coach only running a system based on his own liking as opposed to the strength of the players. Russell is not the problem at all.

        1. most coach’s run their own systems its the job of the fo to give the coach a team that fits their system

          1. Good coaches change their system based on personnel. Good coaches also run two different systems based on starter talents and bench talents. Pop is know to change his style every year and he’s has had the same players every year.

          2. Yes, and he let Kobe do his thing with was definitely not the triangle 🙂

          3. Don’t act like MJ fully ran the Triangle either. The difference is that MJ was NEVER the facilitator of the offense, whereas Kobe was. MJ was always on the back side where he could isolate. Kobe was always one of the parts of the triangle so the only way he could do his thing was to break away from it. Pippen was the facilitator for the Bulls. The Lakers didn’t have another guy during the Shaq and Kobe years. Odom did it a little during his time though.

          4. So your proving my point? Coaches adapt to their personnel and their system is just a framework from which to start.

          5. What Pop did was adapt. To say that Phil has ever adapted really shows how little you really know the game. Adapting is changing from being a half court team to being a transition team because you have the roster to do so. That’s adapting. Letting one player freelance at times is being flexible BECAUSE YOU’RE WINNING but is anything but adapting.

          6. Look at what Fisher is doing with the Knicks. It’s not the Phil triangle. Phil ran to different triangle offense with two different squads, I assume if the league was changing he’d change with it.

          7. First of all, Phil cleaned house with the roster for the expressed reason of getting players that fit the system. What system do you think he was talking about?

          8. They gave up on JR Smith, not exactly the same as getting rid of good players.

      2. I don’t see Russell as being a good P&R guard right now. The big shows and the guard contests from behind. Sounds like a bad recipe for a slow player who is easily bothered by contests. I watched Knicks vs Wiz and Sasha was able to do this to Beal. Sasha would be able to block Russell I would think (or at least make it a low percentage shot).

        1. I see it, even saw some of it last game. Couple of great PNR plays with Russell and Randle last game. It usually ended up with Randle giving the ball back to Russell but it was very effective. It was how Russell played in college. He would give up the ball, then rotate to the three point for an open catch and shoot.

          1. I don’t know. Defenses just don’t respect his game. It’s hard to draw conclusions when they go under screens leaving him open at the 3pt line type defense. When they are forced to guard him then we will see what he can do.

          2. They are actually pressuring him pretty hard. I think the scouting report on Russell is to apply pressure since he has trouble beating guys one on one.

          3. They usually lay off once they build a lead in the first. I was surprised Dallas hardly pressured him at all.

  • Im a Heat fan and Winslow is looking much better than Russell, yes its early but if the pup doesn’t bite while young it will never bite…

    1. Winslow looks great, congrats. He is in the most perfect situation for him too. You’re going to have a great player in Winslow.

      1. Yea thanks. I actually want to see the Lakers back on top. Historic franchises needs to return to relevance

    2. Winslow was my pick coming into the draft! I really like him. He was the reason Duke won a championship!

          1. I felt there was a lot of talent in this draft. People were going to fall.

  • Im a Heat fan and Winslow is looking much better than Russell, yes its early but if the pup doesn’t bite while young it will never bite. The thing about Russell is he’s not overly athletic, not very tall, fast or agile. SO what exactly does he do great?

    1. Winslow looks great, congrats. He is in the most perfect situation for him too. You’re going to have a great player in Winslow.

      1. Yea thanks. I actually want to see the Lakers back on top. Historic franchises needs to return to relevance

    2. Winslow was my pick coming into the draft! I really like him. He was the reason Duke won a championship!

          1. I felt there was a lot of talent in this draft. People were going to fall.

  • After looking at the way he played against us, we should have signed Rondo to start at PG. We should have drafted Winslow, so we would actually have an impact player at SF. Then we could have rolled with Rondo, Clarkson, Winslow, Randle and Hibbert. Kobe and Young would come off the bench to provide firepower. I was ridiculing Rondo after last season with the Mavs, but he has definitely found new life with the Kings. At the end of the day, he’s a seasoned, savvy PG.

      1. Actually Kobe could start at SG, which is a much better position for him that SF. And yes, it would have required a different coach. Winslow isn’t putting up big numbers for the Heat, but he’s been steady and consistent.. high shooting percentage, low turnovers.

  • After looking at the way he played against us, we should have signed Rondo to start at PG. We should have drafted Winslow, so we would actually have an impact player at SF. Then we could have rolled with Rondo, Clarkson, Winslow, Randle and Hibbert. Kobe and Young would come off the bench to provide firepower. I was ridiculing Rondo after last season with the Mavs, but he has definitely found new life with the Kings. At the end of the day, he’s a seasoned, savvy PG.

      1. Actually Kobe could start at SG, which is a much better position for him that SF. And yes, it would have required a different coach. Winslow isn’t putting up big numbers for the Heat, but he’s been steady and consistent.. high shooting percentage, low turnovers.

  • Steph curry was my bust. I always thought he would never make it in the nba with his skinny frame and the only ankles he’s going to break are his. I was wrong and I hope I am right that D’Angelo Russell will be a star.

  • Steph curry was my bust. I always thought he would never make it in the nba with his skinny frame and the only ankles he’s going to break are his. I was wrong and I hope I am right that D’Angelo Russell will be a star.

  • Still loading? He must be using a dial-up 14.4kbps modem…. Ha couldn’t resist.

    I actually agree with giving the guy some time. How he gets through this season (including the criticism) will determine what this guy’s made of.

  • Still loading? He must be using a dial-up 14.4kbps modem…. Ha couldn’t resist.

    I actually agree with giving the guy some time. How he gets through this season (including the criticism) will determine what this guy’s made of.

  • You know it’s bad when only hardcore Lakers fans stick up for the guy.

    Meanwhile as soon as you watch Okafor, Mudiay, Towns and Porzingis you see flashes of greatness within 5 minutes. I have seen nothing from Russell in 13 Summer League games, 8 Preseason games and 3 regular season games. So that only 3 games narrative is BS the kid has been in over 20 games and shown ABSOLUTELY NOTHING besides being an above average passer that can occasionally hit a wide open jumper.

        1. I rather have a guard playing aggressively while turning the ball over. Than a PG that acts as passive as Russell does.

          1. He’s not passive, he doesn’t have the ball in his hands ! Randle/Kobe/JC touch it more often than he does.
            And excuse me, I’d rather have a PG that plays under control.
            What would you have said if D’Angelo had turned the ball 11 freaking times ?

          2. I would say well at least he being aggressive. But even when he does have the ball he not being aggressive. But i understand he not being allowed to bring the ball up as much.

        1. naw Mitch said hes the future and Clarkson will be kept, Byron influenced him to think Clarkson was not a pg true fact byrons fault!never listen to Byron Mitch, he does not know talent,

          1. They look a bad pairing. Either they double down on Russell or cash in on Clarkson. I just get the feeling like they don’t believe in Clarkson.

          2. not them byron dude mitch said russell has to earn things byron said he was better than clarkson!

          3. Yet Russell seems to get more touches on offense and Clarkson is iced in the corner as the #4 option on offense. Not how I’d coach them if I thought Clarkson the better player.

        1. Who’s not a PG? Clarkson? He played great at the position in the second half of last season.

      1. Not a PG. Combo guard. I honestly see Clarkson as a second string energy player for his career. Which is fine. It is an important role.

        1. second string are you stupid he could be a starter on other teams if they did not have star pgs themselves he is all-star calibur!

          1. What device are you using? Never seen spell check go so wrong. Anyhow, yes I see him as a 6th man type of player similar to Lou is now. He isn’t big enough or shoot well enough to play the 2 and he isn’t a good enough playmaker to be a 1.

          1. yes did you hear what Memphis said they would trade Courtney lee for Clarkson!

          2. actually hes better than russell is suppose to be so thats good trashy player I would want!

          3. Clarkson wouldn’t start in GSW, PHO, MIA, DET, SAS, WASH, TOR, HOU, CHI, CHA, LAC. Don’t know if he would start in: ATL, CLE, IND, ORL, POR. There just named 16 teams there are probably more but don’t have the time

          4. are you serious if we dont sign clarkson this offseason teams would scoop him up even if they have a star guard as a legitimate backup!

          5. you said starter. so I named some teams. Pick one or more and tell me where he would start