Byron Scott Uses Magic Johnson Analogy To Describe D’Angelo Russell

The Los Angeles Lakers practiced Monday morning before hopping on a plane to Las Vegas for their next preseason game on Tuesday night against the Sacramento Kings. Lakers head coach Byron Scott anticipates having the same starting lineup as Sunday night of Kobe Bryant, Jordan Clarkson, Julius Randle, Anthony Brown and Roy Hibbert. However, Hibbert is currently listed as probable for tomorrow night’s game with a sore right knee.

Though Russell is also officially listed as probable (bruised glute), he will likely be available for tomorrow’s game, but will come off the bench.

Russell had 11 assists in his 18 minutes off the bench last night, with just two turnovers, another solid performance. A lot of talk has been made about Russell’s ability to see when his teammates are open before the players themselves know they are open, and even though this will likely lead to turnovers early on, Scott wants Russell to have that freedom to make those risky passes.

“I think you’ve got to let his instincts kind of take over,” Scott said about Russell after Monday’s practice. “I think guys are starting to realize that when they don’t think they’re open, sometimes he thinks you are and you’ve got to be ready for it. It was the same with Magic, when he came down the court, you made sure that your hands were ready and that you were looking at him, because even if he wasn’t looking at you, he could fire a pass to you. D’Angelo has a lot of that type of instinct in him. I think the guys are learning that when they’re playing with him, to always be ready.”

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Scott specifically liked what he saw when Russell was on the court, with veterans like Lou Williams and Nick Young in Sunday’s win over Maccabi Haifa.

“Those guys have some experience and they are used to getting open and he was hitting them (Nick Young and Lou Williams) right on the button where they don’t have to do nothing but shoot it.”

On where Russell can improve, Scott would like him to do a better job of managing the shot clock, learning that he cannot attempt to set up a new play after the first play breaks down. Instead, Scott reminds Russell that he needs to play off his instincts with time ticking, like using a high pick-and-roll to make a quick play.

As a point guard who sees the floor a couple steps ahead of most everyone else, Russell said it’s important for him to positively reinforce his teammates that they’re open, encouraging them to continue running the floor.

“If you just feed them that knowledge to them everyday, they realize it,” Russell said.

The Lakers take on the Kings in Las Vegas on Tuesday night at the MGM Grand Garden Arena. Scott said it’s possible the Lakers make a couple roster cuts by the end of the week, which currently stands at 19 players. Expect to see players like Michael Frazier, Robert Upshaw, Jonanthan Holmes, Jabari Brown and others, fighting for roster spots on Tuesday night.

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Russell’s passing instincts are amazing in transition, but once the offense gets set, he has to learn how to be a normal PG.

    1. He’ll be fine. Will probably never shut anybody down but good size and quick hands should mean steals and transition buckets.

      1. agreed. he likely won’t ever be a shut down defender, but his size and huge wingspan for a PG should mitigate a lot of his deficiencies on that side of the ball. his steal rate at OSU was actually quite good.

        1. I dont think its his defense as much as it is his conditioning. Once he gets in NBA shape we’ll see him using that long wingspan alot more actively and getting in better position

        2. We don’t need him to be a “lock down” defender, we only need consistent defensive pressure.

      2. We won’t know how good he is defensively until he is in front of an elite point guard. After Collison it’s Curry, Lillard, and then Curry again. So we should know what he can do defensively by the time the season starts as long as he can stay healthy and gets enough minutes against those guys.

        1. Lillard and Curry make the leagues’ elite defenders look bad…pretty sure they’ll do the same to Russell.

        2. Nah, I think players just get “broken” when they aren’t NBA material. The last guy I remember that happening to was Khalid El-Amin playing against Baron Davis in the Rookies vs 2nd year game.

          Curry didn’t really make Chris Paul fall so much as Chris Paul got his foot tangled and fell. That didn’t mean anything really. It’s the casual fans that made a big deal out of it with the memes and other nonsense.

          I’m not really with that And1 mentality. If Russell can play solid defense he can solidify his starting spot. That’s really all I’m concerned about at this point.

          Curry did some move that got him on Sports Center against Russell Westbrook, but Curry only had to get creative because Westbrook was playing such tight D in the first place.

        3. cp3 tripped on his own? LOL. go watch the replays again. it’s the change of direction he couldn’t keep up with.

          Lebron didn’t dunk on me, I just was in the way….

        4. Nah, it wasn’t that. I just remember he got his foot tangled a little bit. The move wasn’t that crazy.

    2. I’m not, much as the others have said here. His size and wingspan will mitigate many issues. We have Hibbert back there if he loses his man though. Someone just has to learn to rotate to Hibbert’s man though.

      1. great point. idk how many open shots ive seen from that exact situation during this preseason. all rotations prior to the one that gets roy hibbert out of position seem to be coming along though.

  1. How can you say that if you never seen him play a real NBA game? I’m concerned about his lack of quickness, turnovers.

    1. Mind J (like talking to a wall), Sunday’s game say’s otherwise. Not all of the assists came from transition.

    2. On the other hand, john wall had a lot of trouble finding his own rythm because he was too fast and too quick for his teammates on half court.

  • Russell’s passing instincts are amazing in transition, but once the offense gets set, he has to learn how to be a normal PG.

      1. He’ll be fine. Will probably never shut anybody down but good size and quick hands should mean steals and transition buckets.

        1. agreed. he likely won’t ever be a shut down defender, but his size and huge wingspan for a PG should mitigate a lot of his deficiencies on that side of the ball. his steal rate at OSU was actually quite good.

          1. I dont think its his defense as much as it is his conditioning. Once he gets in NBA shape we’ll see him using that long wingspan alot more actively and getting in better position

          2. We don’t need him to be a “lock down” defender, we only need consistent defensive pressure.

        2. We won’t know how good he is defensively until he is in front of an elite point guard. After Collison it’s Curry, Lillard, and then Curry again. So we should know what he can do defensively by the time the season starts as long as he can stay healthy and gets enough minutes against those guys.

          1. Lillard and Curry make the leagues’ elite defenders look bad…pretty sure they’ll do the same to Russell.

            EDIT: it will be a good test of his mettle….getting your tail handed to you in consecutive games can build character – or break you. We’ll see.

          2. Nah, I think players just get “broken” when they aren’t NBA material. The last guy I remember that happening to was Khalid El-Amin playing against Baron Davis in the Rookies vs 2nd year game.

            Curry didn’t really make Chris Paul fall so much as Chris Paul got his foot tangled and fell. That didn’t mean anything really. It’s the casual fans that made a big deal out of it with the memes and other nonsense.

            I’m not really with that And1 mentality. If Russell can play solid defense he can solidify his starting spot. That’s really all I’m concerned about at this point.

            Curry did some move that got him on Sports Center against Russell Westbrook, but Curry only had to get creative because Westbrook was playing such tight D in the first place.

          3. cp3 tripped on his own? LOL. go watch the replays again. it’s the change of direction he couldn’t keep up with.

            Lebron didn’t dunk on me, I just was in the way….

          4. Nah, it wasn’t that. I just remember he got his foot tangled a little bit. The move wasn’t that crazy.

      2. I’m not, much as the others have said here. His size and wingspan will mitigate many issues. We have Hibbert back there if he loses his man though. Someone just has to learn to rotate to Hibbert’s man though.

        1. great point. idk how many open shots ive seen from that exact situation during this preseason. all rotations prior to the one that gets roy hibbert out of position seem to be coming along though.

    1. How can you say that if you never seen him play a real NBA game? I’m concerned about his lack of quickness, turnovers.

      1. Mind J (like talking to a wall), Sunday’s game say’s otherwise. All assists didn’t come from transition.

      2. On the other hand, john wall had a lot of trouble finding his own rythm because he was too fast and too quick for his teammates on half court.

  • russell, clarkson and Randle are looking pretty good so far. Lakers just need a SF like Tobias harris or Harrison Barnes

    1. Kobe is their SF already. They aren’t getting rid of him so thinking about Harris or Barnes is a pipe dream. Unless you’re talking next season of course.

      1. Plus, Harris was already resigned this off season. Barnes will be restricted and likely to be brought back. Durant is the only real good option to bring in and even that’s slim, I’d rather have Kobe be the SF.

        1. DeMar DeRozan may be available tho he plays the 2 mostly but can play the 3. I’d pass on a 3 if the Lakers can’t find a top stretch 3.

          1. Nicolas batum might be a good choice. He can do it all on the court. Shoot, defend, pass, rebound. We need versatility.

          2. Batum would be very high on my list if he’s actually available. I’ve always loved his game and versatility. The backup plan would be to continue to develop Anthony Brown who I really like also.

        2. Durant is an option next year when Kobe likely retires. I’d love to have him on this team. He’s got a few good years left in him and is definitely LA material. The other guys are simply pipe dreams for the reasons mentioned. Many here have no concept of the CBA, how free agency and trades work. They think you can simply sign a guy for the sake of signing him salary cap and luxury taxed be damned or trade someone for a hot dog and Robert Sacre (though we know the hot dog is more valuable and useful than Sacre).

      2. Kobe has a season or 2 left, but KD can also play the 2. Unlikely to happen IMO given if he has trouble dealing with the media in OKC things would go up ten fold in dealing with the Lakers media.

        1. KD doesn’t have problems with OKC’s media, he has a problem with certain media morons who try to create stories out of so-called stories from “sources”. ESPN Stephen A Smith for example. Stories like that lead to stupid questions from stupid people. It’s why he nipped the offseason rumor thing in the bud by saying what he said about his whereabouts.

          1. Stephen A. Smith is a IDIOT an so are those that even listen to him and has been for years.

          2. Most of the time he is. When he mentioned the KD rumors the first thing that came to mind is “This didn’t come from KD’s 3, himself and his 2 guys”.

          3. I don’t always believe SAS. Sometimes he says something true, other times he says things that are complete hyperbole. ESPN sometimes says things that are true, much of the time they say things that are complete hyperbole. It’s all the same.

    2. In my opinion, the SF spot is the trickiest position to find. There’s really no one to grab this off season (other than Durant), but even then I think Durant is a slim possibility. Butler, Harris, Middleton, etc. have all been signed and Barnes will be restricted. It’d be nice to add another young SF, but there’s no one to grab right now. My guess is Kobe comes back for a season or few more, then when it’s time to retire Anthony Brown will take over because he might have emerged by then.

      1. Time will tell but I’d consider moving Randle to the 3 if things don’t pan out at the 4. He has the speed and athleticism to keep up with the runners. Then I’d go for a stretch 4, tho there’s 1 or 2 good/ decent players available the next few years as stretch 4’s.

        1. We don’t need to put RANDLE @ the 3 and have him run his legs off chasing guys when he is doing so good @ PF and what he can do there, plus his RB and AST. it would be a waste of a good player to put him @ the 3.

    3. Harris signed an extension with the Magic, Like Barnes, but for 4/$64 mil which was the offer made by Golden State not sure. However, the upcoming season will be telling.

      1. Just OK for now, hopefully better for the rest of the season.
        He was scouted for his defense on the perimeter and also his deadly accuracy from 3 point land.

        PLUS, hes from LA (Bellflower)!

  • russell, clarkson and Randle are looking pretty good so far. Lakers just need a SF like Tobias harris or Harrison Barnes

    1. Kobe is their SF already. They aren’t getting rid of him so thinking about Harris or Barnes is a pipe dream. Unless you’re talking next season of course.

      1. Plus, Harris was already resigned this off season. Barnes will be restricted and likely to be brought back. Durant is the only real good option to bring in and even that’s slim, I’d rather have Kobe be the SF.

        1. DeMar DeRozan may be available tho he plays the 2 mostly but can play the 3. I’d pass on a 3 if the Lakers can’t find a top stretch 3.

          1. Nicolas batum might be a good choice. He can do it all on the court. Shoot, defend, pass, rebound. We need versatility.

          2. Batum would be very high on my list if he’s actually available. I’ve always loved his game and versatility. The backup plan would be to continue to develop Anthony Brown who I really like also.

        2. Durant is an option next year when Kobe likely retires. I’d love to have him on this team. He’s got a few good years left in him and is definitely LA material. The other guys are simply pipe dreams for the reasons mentioned. Many here have no concept of the CBA, how free agency and trades work. They think you can simply sign a guy for the sake of signing him salary cap and luxury taxed be damned or trade someone for a hot dog and Robert Sacre (though we know the hot dog is more valuable and useful than Sacre).

      2. Kobe has a season or 2 left, but KD can also play the 2. Unlikely to happen IMO given if he has trouble dealing with the media in OKC things would be ten fold in dealing with the Lakers media.

        1. KD doesn’t have problems with OKC’s media, he has a problem with certain media morons who try to create stories out of so-called stories from “sources”. ESPN Stephen A Smith for example. Stories like that lead to stupid questions from stupid people. It’s why he nipped the offseason rumor thing in the bud by saying what he said about his whereabouts.

          1. Stephen A. Smith is a IDIOT an so are those that even listen to him and has been for years.

          2. Most of the time he is. When he mentioned the KD rumors the first thing that came to mind is “This didn’t come from KD’s 3, himself and his 2 guys”.

          3. I don’t always believe SAS. Sometimes he says something true, other times he says things that are complete hyperbole. ESPN sometimes says things that are true, much of the time they say things that are complete hyperbole. It’s all the same.

          4. LOL, Stephen is funny but he has allot of insight to his claims.

            BSpn , just plain sucks.

    2. In my opinion, the SF spot is the trickiest position to find. There’s really no one to grab this off season (other than Durant), but even then I think Durant is a slim possibility. Butler, Harris, Middleton, etc. have all been signed and Barnes will be restricted. It’d be nice to add another young SF, but there’s no one to grab right now. My guess is Kobe comes back for a season or few more, then when it’s time to retire Anthony Brown will take over because he might have emerged by then.

      1. Time will tell but I’d consider moving Randle to the 3 if things don’t pan out at the 4. He has the speed and athleticism to keep up with the runners. Then I’d go for a stretch 4, tho there’s 1 or 2 good/ decent players available the next few years as stretch 4’s.

        1. We don’t need to put RANDLE @ the 3 and have him run his legs off chasing guys when he is doing so good @ PF and what he can do there, plus his RB and AST. it would be a waste of a good player to put him @ the 3.

    3. Harris signed an extension with the Magic, Like Barnes, but for 4/$64 mil which was the offer made by Golden State not sure. However, the upcoming season will be telling.

      1. Just OK for now, hopefully better for the rest of the season.
        He was scouted for his defense on the perimeter and also his deadly accuracy from 3 point land.

        PLUS, hes from LA (Bellflower)!

  • russell’s court vision is other-worldly. and like he himself said, he loves to pass and he sees guys are open even when those guys themselves have no idea that they are. once he gets used to his teammates, watch out. i think byron is having him come off the bench until huertas is ready to run the second unit.

    1. I think he’s coming off the bench because of the glute injury and I think Byron wants to see more of Anthony Brown. It’s about looking at different combinations. I know ultimately it’s going to be Russell starting, but I think Clarkson and Kobe go out at the 6 minute mark with Young and Williams coming in. He’ll run with them until probably the 10 minute mark or for the rest of the quarter before either Clarkson checks back in or Huertas checks in. It’s going to be interesting to see how the sub patterns go. So I think he wants to get Russell minutes to work with those guys in prep for the season.

    2. After Russell get’s a little more comfortable running the floor and finding his teammates, I would love for him to start looking for his own shots within the flow of the offense. He has a silky-smoothness to his game similar to Harden, he could use that to his advantage

      1. He is silky-smooth on the court. His smoothness reminds me a lot of a young Michael Jordan. In fact, I think Russell is the most talented guard that I’ve ever seen come into the league since Jordan. The similarities with Russell n 2015 draft with the ’84 draft n Jordan : both were considered the most talented of their respective draft but were pushed down due to the focus on the big men. Even though it may be premature to say this now but in some ways I’m very happy the Lakers got the #2 pick instead of 1st. There was too much pressure on the big men. Yes if I was the GM, Russell is still my guy even with the 1st pick. Just my opinion but Towns lacks the “it” factor , the coordination, and polish of a true #1 pick big man.

          1. For me, the only true #1 pick big men over the last 25 years are Shaq and Duncan. Those 2 guys are my criteria/standard for being safe #1 big man. If you don’t see those type of potential and dominance, then you go with the most talented player and Russell is clearly in a class by himself here. Great job by Mitch and the rest of the staff. If Russell lives up to his potential, not to mention Clarkson and Randle, then Mitch will have cement his status as one of the all time great GMs in sports.

          2. I agree, but I did see that potential in both, Okafor and Towns and so did the consensus of analysts. Okafor has been compared to a young Duncan.

            Okafors foot woork is no accident, that takes years to master and hes got it!

            I don’t know if Okafor will bust or explode but he is definitely a force to be reckoned with.

            Did Mitch pick the right guy….of course he did.
            Did it make sense at the time….to me it did not, but we didnt have Hibbert then.
            Will Mitch go down as a GM GOAT….fair to say its a lock!

          3. For this particular class, yes those 2 big mean easily stood out. But if you look at them from a historical standpoint (which was what Mitch and his staff smartly did), there is no question that Russell is the best player in the draft. My brief but detailed study on them provided me with some observations: Towns to me looks bit clumsy n uncoordinated, however he has good potential on defense but is very raw elsewhere. Okafor is undersized and he’s def no Duncan. The only similarities to Duncan are the sweet post moves and big hands but he is around 2 inches shorter than Duncan and doesn’t have anywhere near Duncan’s defensive abilities in college. Also neither of them has the “it” factor that it takes to be very special player in this league. What is this “it” factor? Hard to say or explain but like his OSU coach says, Russell’s got it.

        1. I like russell, but there were alot of talented guards before him. Kobe, iversom mc grady ,kidd.

          1. There were definitely some talented guards before Russell but I’ve never seen a single guard has as much potential based on their total skillset as I’ve seen from Russell since Jordan and Magic. I mean the guy has the potential for shooting like Curry, the offensive versatility of Harden(maybe even Kobe), ball-handling of CP3 and Nash, and the court vision and passing of Magic. His poise, maturity and mental IQ is on another level. You combine all this with his potential on defense due to his size, length, underrated athleticism ( near 6’10” wingspan and 39″ vertical). He is even an excellent rebounder for his position as evidence by all the triple doubles he got at OSU. Like I said before his ceiling is near limitless if he continues to hone his body, refine his game, and display the same fire and passion that has gotten him this far. Most intriquing to me, Russell reminds me of a guard version of Tim Duncan because his game is mostly based on skill but there is some athleticism there if needed and as a result its very smart athleticism. Another reason for the Duncan comparisons, his whole game thus far is so fundamentally sound already ( his movement/footwork, shot, and passes are near textbook in execution). For these reasons, he is a very special prospect and I feel we need to pray for his health ( n the rest of the Lakers) and longevity for him to realize his true potential and destiny in this game.

          2. But how does Russell fair against his generation?

            I think Russell is very close to being just as good as CP3 right now. Yes i said it and I believe it!

            Russells passing and court vision are beautiful to observe in action.

            His calmness under pressure is amazing and comforting!

            His control and protection of the ball is reassuring !

            This guy is on his way, I’m telling you.

          3. I found out he practice against cp3 pretty well in june, russell is ob his way

      1. Go back and look at film and watch how Russell looks one way and passes the other way. He can pass between two opponents accurately to the receiving teammate. BEFORE Russell pases he surveys the court with his court vision and predicts where players will end up and computes which is the most effective play to execute almost before the players are even in position!

        Heres a great one for you:
        Coaches cringe when point gaurds jump up to bounce pass, look for Russells jump bounce pass to Randle in summer league!

  • russell’s court vision is other-worldly. and like he himself said, he loves to pass and he sees guys are open even when those guys themselves have no idea that they are. once he gets used to his teammates, watch out. i think byron is having him come off the bench until huertas is ready to run the second unit.

    1. I think he’s coming off the bench because of the glute injury and I think Byron wants to see more of Anthony Brown. It’s about looking at different combinations. I know ultimately it’s going to be Russell starting, but I think Clarkson and Kobe go out at the 6 minute mark with Young and Williams coming in. He’ll run with them until probably the 10 minute mark or for the rest of the quarter before either Clarkson checks back in or Huertas checks in. It’s going to be interesting to see how the sub patterns go. So I think he wants to get Russell minutes to work with those guys in prep for the season.

    2. After Russell get’s a little more comfortable running the floor and finding his teammates, I would love for him to start looking for his own shots within the flow of the offense. He has a silky-smoothness to his game similar to Harden, he could use that to his advantage

      1. He is silky-smooth on the court. His smoothness reminds me a lot of a young Michael Jordan. In fact, I think Russell is the most talented guard that I’ve ever seen come into the league since Jordan. The similarities with Russell n 2015 draft with the ’84 draft n Jordan : both were considered the most talented of their respective draft but were pushed down due to the focus on the big men. Even though it may be premature to say this now but in some ways I’m very happy the Lakers got the #2 pick instead of 1st. There was too much pressure on the big men. Yes if I was the GM, Russell is still my guy even with the 1st pick. Just my opinion but Towns lacks the “it” factor , the coordination, and polish of a true #1 pick big man.

          1. For me, the only true #1 pick big men over the last 25 years are Shaq and Duncan. Those 2 guys are my criteria/standard for being safe #1 big man. If you don’t see those type of potential and dominance, then you go with the most talented player and Russell is clearly in a class by himself here. Great job by Mitch and the rest of the staff. If Russell lives up to his potential, not to mention Clarkson and Randle, then Mitch will have cement his status as one of the all time great GMs in sports.

          2. I agree, but I did see that potential in both, Okafor and Towns and so did the consensus of analysts. Okafor has been compared to a young Duncan.

            Okafors foot woork is no accident, that takes years to master and hes got it!

            I don’t know if Okafor will bust or explode but he is definitely a force to be reckoned with.

            Did Mitch pick the right guy….of course he did.
            Did it make sense at the time….to me it did not, but we didnt have Hibbert then.
            Will Mitch go down as a GM GOAT….fair to say its a lock!

          3. For this particular class, yes those 2 big mean easily stood out. But if you look at them from a historical standpoint (which was what Mitch and his staff smartly did), there is no question that Russell is the best player in the draft. My brief but detailed study on them provided me with some observations: Towns to me looks bit clumsy n uncoordinated, however he has good potential on defense but is very raw elsewhere. Okafor is undersized and he’s def no Duncan. The only similarities to Duncan are the sweet post moves and big hands but he is around 2 inches shorter than Duncan and doesn’t have anywhere near Duncan’s defensive abilities in college. Also neither of them has the “it” factor that it takes to be very special player in this league. What is this “it” factor? Hard to say or explain but like his OSU coach says, Russell’s got it.

        1. I like russell, but there were alot of talented guards before him. Kobe, iversom mc grady ,kidd.

          1. There were definitely some talented guards before Russell but I’ve never seen a single guard has as much potential based on their total skillset as I’ve seen from Russell since Jordan and Magic. I mean the guy has the potential for shooting like Curry, the offensive versatility of Harden(maybe even Kobe), ball-handling of CP3 and Nash, and the court vision and passing of Magic. His poise, maturity and mental IQ is on another level. You combine all this with his potential on defense due to his size, length, underrated athleticism ( near 6’10” wingspan and 39″ vertical). He is even an excellent rebounder for his position as evidence by all the triple doubles he got at OSU. Like I said before his ceiling is near limitless if he continues to hone his body, refine his game, and display the same fire and passion that has gotten him this far. Most intriquing to me, Russell reminds me of a guard version of Tim Duncan because his game is mostly based on skill but there is some athleticism there if needed and as a result its very smart athleticism. Another reason for the Duncan comparisons, his whole game thus far is so fundamentally sound already ( his movement/footwork, shot, and passes are near textbook in execution). For these reasons, he is a very special prospect and I feel we need to pray for his health ( n the rest of the Lakers) and longevity for him to realize his true potential and destiny in this game.

          2. But how does Russell fair against his generation?

            I think Russell is very close to being just as good as CP3 right now. Yes i said it and I believe it!

            Russells passing and court vision are beautiful to observe in action.

            His calmness under pressure is amazing and comforting!

            His control and protection of the ball is reassuring !

            This guy is on his way, I’m telling you.

          3. I found out he practice against cp3 pretty well in june, russell is ob his way

      1. Go back and look at film and watch how Russell looks one way and passes the other way. He can pass between two opponents accurately to the receiving teammate. BEFORE Russell pases he surveys the court with his court vision and predicts where players will end up and computes which is the most effective play to execute almost before the players are even in position!

        Heres a great one for you:
        Coaches cringe when point gaurds jump up to bounce pass, look for Russells jump bounce pass to Randle in summer league!

  • Being a PG in this league is probably the hardest position to learn from. Russell definitely has the potential to be great and become a future star in this league, but this year is going to be definitely full of ups and downs and growing pains. And the Lakers haven’t had a true amazing PG since Magic. It would be awesome if Magic could mentor him, since Worthy is already mentoring the bigs!

    1. Magic was the star during his time but there were a lot of amazing PGs who shadowed Kobe. There was Nash and Payton (although they never really had much success in lakers jerseys). And there was Derek Fisher who won Championships with Kobe.

  • Being a PG in this league is probably the hardest position to learn from. Russell definitely has the potential to be great and become a future star in this league, but this year is going to be definitely full of ups and downs and growing pains. And the Lakers haven’t had a true amazing PG since Magic. It would be awesome if Magic could mentor him, since Worthy is already mentoring the bigs!

    1. Magic was the star during his time but there were a lot of amazing PGs who shadowed Kobe. There was Nash and Payton (although they never really had much success in lakers jerseys). And there was Derek Fisher who won Championships with Kobe.

    1. probably Holmes and Frazier, J Brown was on the roster last season after all, they will evaluate him for at least another game or two.

    2. If J. Brown is to be cut it will be the last one, there is to much value with his game, plus he also is a great locker room guy.

    1. probably Holmes and Frazier, J Brown was on the roster last season after all, they will evaluate him for at least another game or two.

    2. If J. Brown is to be cut it will be the last one, there is to much value with his game, plus he also is a great locker room guy.

  • I sense a collective gasp among fans when they hear the Magic and Dshow comparison.

    We now have Byron and Worthy saying this along with Rick Pitino and others.

    I’ve been saying it as well… This guy can be better than Magic because of his shooting ability.

    I don’t know about the rest of you but I’m excited to see the Dshow begin 🙂

    1. Better than magic, if thats the case he will be a top 5 player of all time, i dont know if he be that good. He has the talent but do he have the heart and desire

          1. It’s disrespectful to even compare a rookie to a legend in my book. And Magic may be the best player in NBA history because he transformed the game and was the best point guard to date. Not saying for sure he is the best but he’s in the conversation in my book.

            Obviously the initial comment came from someone too young to have seen Magic.

            Paytc

          2. Yeah magic is in the conversation, but i have magic as the best point jordan the best shooting guard

          3. Perhaps, but I personally think Kobe is as good but different than Jordan. Because Kobe had the advantage by studying Jordan. And of course Jordan studied Dr. J, and DR.J studied Elgin Baylor.

            Paytc

          4. Its not fair to be comparing the two, @ this point in his career, lets enjoy Russell this season because there will most likely be low periods in his game as with his high points, don’t judge him let him judge his self he will tell us that’s the type of guy he is.

        1. We have seen 1 1/2 games with RUSSELL and we believe he is going to be one of the best ever, I think we should wait till the end of the year and not put too much pressure on the 19 year old KID, GIVE IT A BREAK.

      1. Now that doesn’t mean he can’t be the best D’ Angelo Russell the world has ever seen. That has potential to be great too. But people are way to mature even mentioning a rookie who has never played an NBA game in the same breath as a legend. It actually shows off one’s ignorance in opinion more than anything else IMO.

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        1. Okay peeps I’m super excited about both D’Angelo and Julius and them leading the future but to hear Hibbert talk about JR being “the future face of the league” and know this talk about DR on a Magic freaking Johnson level is too much. Let’s all get a grip. These kids have yet to play a complete regular season game! I get the excitement, I’m super excited too, but we gotta slow our roll.

          1. I’m with you on that ! I am perhaps the most optimistic person in the world. But I never present an MVP or a championship before a team or player earns it.

            I really dislike “hype.” That’s why I don’t like much of today’s pop music. Sure I’ll clap for a good effort. But you have to actually deliver something special to get me out of my seat.

            We haven’t seen anything special from any of our rookie or second year players at this point. It’s all hype and untapped potential.

            Which rookie or second year player has led us to a meaningful victory?

            I am excited but they have much to prove and a long way to go.
            They will experience both highs and lows. So we must remain patient, not overly excited.

            Go Lakers !

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    2. Heresy! You must be very young, and never watched Magic play. I don’t think anyone on earth is “better” than Magic. Different. But not better. And unless Russell can grow another four inches, he will never have the advantage Magic did.

      Remember, in his rookie year, in the sixth game of the NBA finals when Kareem was injured, Magic played all five positions and scored 42 points, had 15 rebounds and 7 assists. ESPN ranks it as the #2 game performance of all time.

      Yeah, I don’t think Russell will be better than Magic.

        1. Let’s hope Magic be willing to teach Russell a few things next off-season or a few yrs from now when Russell is more well versed with the game.

          1. Won’t happen. Magic was the best, but he loves his money ( Dodgers) more than the new Lakers.
            P.s. there is only one player that makes it hard for me to say Magic was the best. Kareem!

          2. I’m with you he has yet to learn his team, and they are making him out to be the next best player in the history of the NBA.

    3. Since a few of you said the same things I will just reply to everyone:

      If you read my comment properly you would see that I said he CAN be better than Magic – not that he will be. I say that because he is a better shooter than Magic was to go along with similar passing gifts.

      In this era of the NBA 3pt shooting is more valuable than ever and this kid can shoot the lights out. He shot 41% fro 3 on 7 attempts per game in college. He will have to adjust to the NBA line and also the speed and pressure etc but shooting is a skill that translates very well from college to the NBA.

      If he can shoot 41% from 3 in the NBA and Pass the way I think he is and run the team by getting everyone open looks in the spot they like…

      He’s going to be an all time great

      Don’t forget that he may not be 6’8 like Magic or have that charisma and smile – but he is 6’5 which is huge for a PG and his wingspan is the longest of any PG in the NBA I believe. He also has a 39″ vertical leap.

      So keep in mind that he has many physical gifts and advantages to go along with his very valuable skillset.

      He may not be as good as Magic – but hes got a chance to be in my opinion. I’m tickled to death that the Lakers drafted this young man and that he will be bringing back Showtime to my favorite team 🙂

      1. I have to agree with your view of Russells potential and while we can’t predict the future, what you see is what I also see in Russell.

        Good post.

        1. Slow way down putting the kid’s name in the same breath with a legend. That’s what gets me about the “now” microwave on demand social media spoiled, I want it all instantly generation. During Magic’s era players went out and earned the right to be called great. The kid is not even a good NBA player yet so like Ali said”if he even dreams of being in Magic’s class he better wake up and apologize” (smile).

          It’s good to be excited about Russell, Clarkson, and Randle, but I personally dont see a Magic, Kobe , or Jordan in either of them.

          Let’s at least wait until they even win one significant NBA regular season game before even considering them as a “good” NBA player.

          They all have long way to go to even be considered an elite active player. And there so far from a legend it’s criminal to even have that thought IMO.

          I will wait until they make it to the playoffs before I’ll give them even elite class active player consideration. But I am pulling for them all and see a lot of un tapped potential in them.

          Go Lakers !

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          1. If Russell continues to progress and impress at this rate, I have no doubt he will eventually be the best PG in this CURRENT league, NO DOUBT!

            No sane person can state that this kid is a Magic Johnson, but what we can say is Russell poses qualities that are undeniably elite at this stage of his young career.

            In my opinion there are only 4 proven players ever with elite championship DNA. Three out of the four are Lakers, and one of those Lakers is a playing legend! They are Kareem Abdul Jabar, Kobe Bean Bryant, Magic Johnson, and Michael Jordan. To me, based on adversity faced and longevity, pound for pound, Kobe is the Greatest Of All Time. Based on the best over all well rounded game, Kareem Abdul Jabar by far is the Greatest Of All Time. Best Point Guard ever unquestionably goes to Magic Johnson, but he meant much more than that to the NBA . Magic Johnson arguably should be the logo of the NBA. Jordan goes without saying, but I’m partial to my Lakers.

            The key to Russells development is:
            1) Remaining a Laker with a great supportive staff.
            2) Maintain that high confidence, never second guess himself.
            3) He must shadow Kobe in every aspect!
            4) He must commit to doing everything advised by Magic (no shortcuts).
            5) Maintain healthy!!!

            If he does this then he will be on his way to greatness. Its not a question of if, its a question of when.

          2. Perhaps and I wish him the best career he could imagine.
            I would be thrilled to one day mention his name among the greats.

            There still are no guarantees or short cuts.

            Many thought the same about Tracy Mcgrady and Derrick Rose.
            Thus far we have only seen glimpse’s of brilliance from them.

            Then there is Danny Ferry, Reggie Williams, Phil Ford, Mookie Blaylock, Danny Manning, Christian Laettner, and others who had promising careers that didn’t pan out.

            I say keep reasonable expectations especially for young promising players.

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          3. That’s the only way you should look at this, we can never predict what is going to happen to any one of them, just hope and watch the LAKERS games and enjoy. What not to do is miss the games and then start telling all kinds of crap that cant be backed up and make LAKERS NATION look like a grade school debate.

          4. I think the players should set their own expectations and personal standards high because they are the only ones who can and will have to live up to them. We just need to support and share positive encouragement. They will have ups and downs like every player before them.

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          5. The biggest advantage that Russell has on all the players you mentioned is….he is with the best development organization, The Lakers!

          6. Just try to remember Magic’s career stats and he retired with many years still in front of him.

            19.5 PPG, 11.2 ASSIST PG, 7.2 Rebounds pg, 2 steals pg, played all 5 positions, won 5 championships, first team all rookie, multiple league and finals MVP’S, Olympic Gold medal champ, college national championship and MVP, won the title his rookie season transforming the game as the first 6’9 point guard…… Those shoes are too large for Kyrie Irving, Westbrook, CP3, Anthony Davis, Lebron James, Derrick Rose, and other active elite players to fill. So it’s quite big shoes to ask a un proven rookie with a lot of promise to fill IMO.

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          7. Biggest areas where Russell can improve:

            1) The synchronicity of the game with his team mates. Russell is awesome at controlling the pace of the game but he has to get used to his teammates and their timing and their style of play. This is not a fault of his, its something that only comes with knowing your teammates and a PERMANENT roster.

            2) Russel has to show a little more of his offensive shooting, which we know he possesses. The good thing is he is not pushing the issue. He is being smart about picking and choosing when to take a shot. But make no mistake Russell is a sharp shooter! Lets go back and watch the last summer league game where you will see that Russell can light it up.

          8. Fair enough. Definitely agree with offensive shooting. I might also add that he needs to work on his change in direction. Magic had this ability. He wasn’t lightning quick but his height and length together with change in direction allowed him to get to the rim with ease.

            Nash could get to the rim because people feared his accurate shooting ability. And his change in direction was pretty crafty. So if DR can get people to respect the shooting then the next step is getting to the rim.

          9. Couldn’t agree more. Health, focus, and desire will be the only variables standing in the way of Russell and the all-time greats of the game.

          10. Where are all those RUSSELL haters that was saying watch what you say and all kinds of hate crap, what has happened to make the difference between then and just a month ago, or did every one forget , I have never seen so many BAD Lakers fans in 20 years, your like monkey see monkey do, so now I will just sit back and see how much hate I can get for telling the truth.

          11. I agree with you Al that we should support all of our players. Especially the young players who have the biggest pressure and expectations to live up to. I don’t think we should add pressure and expectations by being too cocky with our predictions on what type of career a young un proven player will have.

            I wish Clarkson, Russell, Randle, Nance, Jabari, A.B.,Upshaw, Black, Frazier, Holmes, and all vets and players that make the team nothing but the best.

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          12. It is so hard to sit back and listen to most of these guy who are younger then RUSSELL making so many stupid POST and want to argue about every thing with out so much of a small amount of knowledge.

      2. LA Native,
        You will never get us old timers to agree with you. Magic brought something you would never believe to L.A.. l

        1. It was much bigger than what Magic brought to L.A.

          Magic changed and/or transformed the league. Never before was there a 6’9 point guard. Never before was there a player who played all 5 positions on the floor. Never before was the NBA lifted as high as the Magic and Bird rivalry had it.

          Magic won the NBA title and finals MVP and rookie of the year all in his rookie season after winning the college national championship at Michigan state. And may have led the league in assist his rookie year if I’m not mistaken?

          Magic was ridiculous !

          I don’t claim to guarantee all of Magic’s rookie accomplishments so feel free to correct me if I’m wrong. But one thing I do guarantee is there was only one Magic and there will never be another one.

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          1. Yeah he was. He shared point guard time with norm nixon, if not for thar he would have lead the lead earlier

          2. MAGIC and BIRD changed the NBA to what it is now, I don’t believe I have ever seen two guys that wanted to win as those two did, and yet ended up being the best of friends two different guys from two different worlds–THANKS GUYS.

          3. Yes Al they did. Actually we would not know Michael Jordan as we do today had it not been for the Magic and Bird rivalry.

            Magic and Bird brought a level of excitement and viewership like never before. So the league panicked with Magic’s sudden retirement and threw everything they had behind Jordan to keep the high level of interest and popularity Bird and Magic started.

            Before that Jordan was just a great player. After he became the first face of the game. Jerry West was the first logo of the game. Lebron James was chosen as the second face of the game in hopes he could carry the type of excitement that Magic, Bird, and Jordan did.

            I personally thought Kobe should have been selected as that guy.

            They are putting everything behind Lebron and he is very good just not as exciting as the era before him IMO.

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          4. To me JAMES is boring, I don’t watch his games, he has always been a power player the power is the guys around him, his a TEAM jumper turned me off ,

          5. Yes I too am not crazy watching Lebron jump from one stacked all star filled team to find another. And I don’t like the way he gets away pushing off when players defend him close. He definitely gets the benefit of the calls and league support.

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      3. “he can be better than Magic” still a horrible comment. What rookie, who has never played an NBA game, has been told he can be that great (realistically). In the preseason did people say possibly DRose can be better than MJ? Is anyone saying KAT realistically can be better than Kareem? Mudiay can be better than Kobe? MAYBE LeBron. But he still cant win the top 5 Alltime argument now. So as a rookie (before playing an NBA game) it was an uphill battle to argue “he can be the greatest ever”. To say any of those things along with what you said is grasping at straws. Don’t hide behind the “can” word. So I can say “Anthony Bennett can be better than Blake Griffin”. NO. Just because you say “can” it doesn’t remove reality. We can start setting ceilings for DLO in two years and many games.

        1. What is wrong with believing he can based on his obvious visible talent?

          What is wrong with having the champion mentality? Thats what we Lakers expect, nothing less!

    4. Russell has the potential, if he continues to hone his body, refine his game, and display the same fire and passion year in and out, to cement his name among the all-time greats. There will never be another Magic but talent wise and mentally, Russell is on that same level. Due to Magic’s height and shooting mechanics, there were positives and negatives to his game and the same with Russell. Magic could play power forward or even center if need to but could never hang with the fast elite small guards and his shot was more stand-still push. Russell is an underrated athlete for sure: he has good lateral quickness and length combine with a 39inch vertical. In today’s small ball league, Russell could play small forward on some occasions based on matchups. Also, Russell has a true jump shot with a silky smooth release so he has a lot more potential and variety to his outside game. The parallels between them are amazing court vision, basketball IQ, passing ability and rare gift to make others around them much better. Only time will tell but we must all pray for the Lakers and Russell’s health and well-being because that is the one uncontrolled variable that can derail the true path and destiny of an elite prospect like Russell.

    5. Not even close. The thought shouldn’t even be a legal comparison until a rookie at least plays “one” meaningful NBA game. What has Russell even done to even be compared to Nick Van Exel or Jordan Farmar?

      Let’s have the conversation that Russell is a “good” NBA player before considering him a great one. And then once he has a couple of great years we could start the thought of his legacy scratching the surface of “great” consideration.

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      1. I do know is that russell more of a pure point than van exel, and a better passer than bot him and farmer

        1. Perhaps? But my point is at least Nick Van Excel and Farmar played well in preseason, regular season, post season, and I believe they both made it to the championship round.

          So we have to at least let Russell prove he can play well in the regular season. There is no merit or justification on comparing him to any legend especially Magic Johnson.

          But I think Byron Scott said what he said because he wants to give the kid the best model to pattern after.

          Then ignorant and excited fans take things the wrong way and make ridiculous comparisons and predictions.

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          1. Yeah but none of them came in at 19 either. I can see his potential, and has much more than farmer, i love van exel, a scoring point guard that can pass, but not the classic point like russell

          2. Ok it’s hard to argue the ceiling for Russell. He has game. But lets pull for him to max out and reach the top of it. Not crown him a champion before he wins a regular season or playoff game.

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          3. Not crowning him, just saying jes more of the classic point that all. He does things you cant teach. We just dont know yet if hes mentally tough, and thats whatwe have to find out

          4. Fair and true statement. I am leaning in the same direction you are with the young man. I’m pulling for him and see what you see in him.

            But I was also the biggest Bo Jackson fan. Bo Jackson is still the only player to date who every time he touched the ball you held your breath knowing he could go all the way. Bo was too big to grab and too fast to catch. Unfortunately Bo Jackson never got to give us all he had to offer on the football field. He still will go down as the only player ever you feared would go all the way every time.

            There is big time excitement in Laker land again.

            I will be watching and pulling for all our young players.
            And I would be surprised if Russell doesn’t become one of the leagues best.

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          5. That’s monkey see monkey do one makes a statement not knowing if he is right or wrong and the lesser follow his lead and every thing gets out of control.

          1. Me I am always here just most of the time not interested in arguing over bad post, so today I could not hold back plus the wife and our daughters went out shopping and for lunch, they try to get together a few time a month, how you doing?

          2. Im doing good, and am very very excited from what I have seen so far from our great organization. Thank you for asking.

            I can feel the chemistry coming together well with our new talented roster. So different from Lin and Hill last year.

          3. Its going to be OK this year but like all team it will have those up and down days, I just hope they can handle those days and understand those are learning days not bad days.

  • I sense a collective gasp among fans when they hear the Magic and Dshow comparison.

    We now have Byron and Worthy saying this along with others.

    I’ve been saying it as well… This guy can be better than Magic because of his shooting ability.

    I don’t know about the rest of you but I’m excited to see the Dshow begin 🙂

    1. Better than magic, if thats the case he will be a top 5 player of all time, i dont know if he be that good. He has the talent but do he have the heart and desire

          1. It’s disrespectful to even compare a rookie to a legend in my book. And Magic may be the best player in NBA history because he transformed the game and was the best point guard to date. Not saying for sure he is the best but he’s in the conversation in my book.

            Obviously the initial comment came from someone too young to have seen Magic.

            You see there are five levels to prove yourself on.

            1. pre season

            2. regular season.

            3. post season/playoffs

            4. conference championship

            5. championship finals

            Do well on those levels you may get selected as a league all star.

            Then “great” players do those things for multiple years.

            Go Lakers !

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          2. Yeah magic is in the conversation, but i have magic as the best point jordan the best shooting guard

          3. Perhaps, but I personally think Kobe is as good but different than Jordan. Because Kobe had the advantage by studying Jordan. And of course Jordan studied Dr. J, and DR.J studied Elgin Baylor.

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          4. Its not fair to be comparing the two, @ this point in his career, lets enjoy Russell this season because there will most likely be low periods in his game as with his high points, don’t judge him let him judge his self he will tell us that’s the type of guy he is.

        1. We have seen 1 1/2 games with RUSSELL and we believe he is going to be one of the best ever, I think we should wait till the end of the year and not put too much pressure on the 19 year old KID, GIVE IT A BREAK.

      1. Now that doesn’t mean he can’t be the best D’ Angelo Russell the world has ever seen. That has potential to be great too. But people are way to mature even mentioning a rookie who has never played an NBA game in the same breath as a legend. It actually shows off one’s ignorance in opinion more than anything else IMO.

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        1. Okay peeps I’m super excited about both D’Angelo and Julius and them leading the future but to hear Hibbert talk about JR being “the future face of the league” and know this talk about DR on a Magic freaking Johnson level is too much. Let’s all get a grip. These kids have yet to play a complete regular season game! I get the excitement, I’m super excited too, but we gotta slow our roll.

          1. I’m with you on that ! I am perhaps the most optimistic person in the world. But I never present an MVP or a championship before a team or player earns it.

            I really dislike “hype.” That’s why I don’t like much of today’s pop music. Sure I’ll clap for a good effort. But you have to actually deliver something special to get me out of my seat.

            We haven’t seen anything special from any of our rookie or second year players at this point. It’s all hype and untapped potential.

            Which rookie or second year player has led the Lakers to a meaningful victory?

            I am excited for them all too, but they have much to prove and a long way to go.

            They will experience both highs and lows. So we must remain supportive and patient, not overly excited.

            You see there are five levels to prove yourself on.

            1. pre season

            2. regular season.

            3. post season/playoffs

            4. conference championship

            5. championship finals

            Do well on those levels you may get selected as a league all star.

            Then “great” players do those things for multiple years.

            Go Lakers !

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    2. Heresy! You must be very young, and never watched Magic play. I don’t think anyone on earth is “better” than Magic. Different. But not better. And unless Russell can grow another four inches, he will never have the advantage Magic did.

      Remember, in his rookie year, in the sixth game of the NBA finals when Kareem was injured, Magic played all five positions and scored 42 points, had 15 rebounds and 7 assists. ESPN ranks it as the #2 game performance of all time.

      Yeah, I don’t think Russell will be better than Magic.

        1. Let’s hope Magic be willing to teach Russell a few things next off-season or a few yrs from now when Russell is more well versed with the game.

          1. Won’t happen. Magic was the best, but he loves his money ( Dodgers) more than the new Lakers.
            P.s. there is only one player that makes it hard for me to say Magic was the best. Kareem!

          2. I’m with you he has yet to learn his team, and they are making him out to be the next best player in the history of the NBA.

    3. Since a few of you said the same things I will just reply to everyone:

      If you read my comment properly you would see that I said he CAN be better than Magic – not that he will be. I say that because he is a better shooter than Magic was to go along with similar passing gifts.

      In this era of the NBA 3pt shooting is more valuable than ever and this kid can shoot the lights out. He shot 41% fro 3 on 7 attempts per game in college. He will have to adjust to the NBA line and also the speed and pressure etc but shooting is a skill that translates very well from college to the NBA.

      If he can shoot 41% from 3 in the NBA and Pass the way I think he is and run the team by getting everyone open looks in the spot they like…

      He’s going to be an all time great

      Don’t forget that he may not be 6’8 like Magic or have that charisma and smile – but he is 6’5 which is huge for a PG and his wingspan is the longest of any PG in the NBA I believe. He also has a 39″ vertical leap.

      So keep in mind that he has many physical gifts and advantages to go along with his very valuable skillset.

      He may not be as good as Magic – but hes got a chance to be in my opinion. I’m tickled to death that the Lakers drafted this young man and that he will be bringing back Showtime to my favorite team 🙂

      1. I have to agree with your view of Russells potential and while we can’t predict the future, what you see is what I also see in Russell.

        Good post.

        1. Slow way down putting the kid’s name in the same breath with a legend. That’s what gets me about the “now” microwave on demand social media spoiled, I want it all instantly generation. During Magic’s era players went out and earned the right to be called great. The kid is not even a good NBA player yet so like Ali said”if he even dreams of being in Magic’s class he better wake up and apologize” (smile).

          It’s good to be excited about Russell, Clarkson, and Randle, but I personally dont see a Magic, Kobe , or Jordan in either of them.

          Let’s at least wait until they even win one significant NBA regular season game before even considering them as a “good” NBA player.

          They all have a long way to go to even be considered an elite active player. And their so far from a legend it’s criminal to even have that thought IMO.

          I will wait until they make it to the playoffs before I’ll give them even elite class active player consideration. But I am pulling for them all and see a lot of un tapped potential in them.

          Let’s see if they’re able to tap the potential? In regular season, then playoffs, then at championship time.

          You see there are five levels to prove yourself on.

          1. pre season

          2. regular season.

          3. post season/playoffs

          4. conference championship

          5. championship finals

          Do well on those levels you may get selected as a league all star and/or a member of the U.S. Olympic team.

          Then “great” players do those things for multiple years.

          Go Lakers !

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          1. If Russell continues to progress and impress at this rate, I have no doubt he will eventually be the best PG in this CURRENT league. NO DOUBT!

            No sane person can state that this kid is a Magic Johnson, but what we can say is Russell poses qualities that are undeniably elite at this stage of his young career.

            In my opinion there are only 4 proven players ever with elite championship DNA. Three out of the four are Lakers, and one of those Lakers is a playing legend! They are Kareem Abdul Jabar, Kobe Bean Bryant, Magic Johnson, and Michael Jordan. To me, based on adversity faced and longevity, pound for pound, Kobe is the Greatest Of All Time. Based on the best over all well rounded game, Kareem Abdul Jabar by far is the Greatest Of All Time. Best Point Guard ever unquestionably goes to Magic Johnson, but he meant much more than that to the NBA . Magic Johnson arguably should be the logo of the NBA. Jordan goes without saying, but I’m partial to my Lakers.

            The key to Russells development is:
            1) Remaining a Laker for life.
            2) Maintain that high confidence, never second guess himself.
            3) He must shadow Kobe in every aspect!
            4) He must commit to doing everything advised by Magic (no shortcuts).
            5) Maintain healthy!!!

            If he does this then he will be on his way to greatness. Its not a question of if, its a question of when.

          2. Perhaps and I wish him the best career he could imagine.
            I would be thrilled to one day mention his name among the greats.

            There still are no guarantees or short cuts.

            Many thought the same about Tracy Mcgrady and Derrick Rose.
            Thus far we have only seen glimpse’s of brilliance from them.

            Then there is Danny Ferry, Reggie Williams, Phil Ford, Mookie Blaylock, Danny Manning, Christian Laettner, and others who had promising careers that didn’t pan out.

            I say keep reasonable expectations especially for young promising players.

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          3. That’s the only way you should look at this, we can never predict what is going to happen to any one of them, just hope and watch the LAKERS games and enjoy. What not to do is miss the games and then start telling all kinds of crap that cant be backed up and make LAKERS NATION look like a grade school debate.

          4. I think the players should set their own expectations and personal standards high because they are the only ones who can and will have to live up to them. We just need to support and share positive encouragement. They will have ups and downs like every player before them.

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          5. The biggest advantage that Russell has on all the players you mentioned is….he is with the best development organization, The Lakers!

            Also, what I think LA Native was trying to say is that there might be ONE quality or skill that Russell can EVENTUALLY be better than Magic at, not that he currently is better.

          6. Just try to remember Magic’s career stats and he retired with many years still in front of him.

            19.5 PPG, 11.2 ASSIST PG, 7.2 Rebounds pg, practically a triple double ! 2 steals pg, played all 5 positions, won 5 championships, first team all rookie, multiple league and finals MVP’S, Olympic Gold medal champ, college national championship and MVP, won the title his rookie season transforming the game as the first 6’9 point guard among other things…… Those shoes are too large for Kyrie Irving, Westbrook, CP3, Anthony Davis, Lebron James, Derrick Rose,Melo, Durant,Curry, and other active elite players to fill. So it’s quite big shoes to ask a un proven rookie with a lot of promise to fill IMO.

            Much too soon to even have anything close to the conversation IMO.

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          7. Biggest areas where Russell can improve:

            1) The synchronicity of the game with his team mates. Russell is awesome at controlling the pace of the game but he has to get used to his teammates and their timing and their style of play. This is not a fault of his, its something that only comes with knowing your teammates and a PERMANENT roster.

            2) Russel has to show a little more of his offensive shooting, which we know he possesses. The good thing is he is not pushing the issue. He is being smart about picking and choosing when to take a shot. But make no mistake Russell is a sharp shooter! Lets go back and watch the last summer league game where you will see that Russell can light it up.

          8. Fair enough. Definitely agree with offensive shooting. I might also add that he needs to work on his change in direction. Magic had this ability. He wasn’t lightning quick but his height and length together with change in direction allowed him to get to the rim with ease.

            Nash could get to the rim because people feared his accurate shooting ability. And his change in direction was pretty crafty. So if DR can get people to respect the shooting then the next step is getting to the rim.

          9. Couldn’t agree more. Health, focus, and desire will be the only variables standing in the way of Russell and the all-time greats of the game.

          10. Where are all those RUSSELL haters that was saying watch what you say and all kinds of hate crap, what has happened to make the difference between then and just a month ago, or did every one forget , I have never seen so many BAD Lakers fans in 20 years, your like monkey see monkey do, so now I will just sit back and see how much hate I can get for telling the truth.

          11. I agree with you Al that we should support all of our players. Especially the young players who have the biggest pressure and expectations to live up to. I don’t think we should add pressure and expectations by being too cocky with our predictions on what type of career a young un proven player will have.

            I wish Clarkson, Russell, Randle, Nance, Jabari, A.B.,Upshaw, Black, Frazier, Holmes, and all vets and players that make the team nothing but the best.

            Paytc

          12. It is so hard to sit back and listen to most of these guy who are younger then RUSSELL making so many stupid POST and want to argue about every thing with out so much of a small amount of knowledge.

      2. LA Native,
        You will never get us old timers to agree with you. Magic brought something you would never believe to L.A.. l

        1. It was much bigger than what Magic brought to L.A.

          Magic changed and/or transformed the league. Never before was there a 6’9 point guard. Never before was there a player who played all 5 positions on the floor. Never before was the NBA lifted as high as the Magic and Bird rivalry had it.

          Magic won the NBA title and finals MVP and rookie of the year all in his rookie season after winning the college national championship at Michigan state. And may have led the league in assist his rookie year if I’m not mistaken?

          Magic was ridiculous ! The man averaged 11.2 career assist pg, 19.5 ppg, 7.2 rebounds, and about 2 steal pg. and got 5 rings retiring only halfway through his career. Those are career stats.

          I don’t claim to guarantee all of Magic’s rookie accomplishments so feel free to correct me if I’m wrong. But one thing I do guarantee is there was only one Magic and there will never be another one.

          You see there are five levels to prove yourself on.

          1. pre season

          2. regular season.

          3. post season/playoffs

          4. conference championship

          5. championship finals

          Do well on those levels you may get selected as a league all star.

          Then “great” players do those things for multiple years.

          Go Lakers !

          Paytc

          1. Yeah he was. He shared point guard time with norm nixon, if not for thar he would have lead the lead earlier

          2. MAGIC and BIRD changed the NBA to what it is now, I don’t believe I have ever seen two guys that wanted to win as those two did, and yet ended up being the best of friends two different guys from two different worlds–THANKS GUYS.

          3. Yes Al they did. Actually we would not know Michael Jordan as we do today had it not been for the Magic and Bird rivalry.

            Magic and Bird brought a level of excitement and viewership like never before. So the league panicked with Magic’s sudden retirement and threw everything they had behind Jordan to keep the high level of interest and popularity Bird and Magic started.

            Before that Jordan was just a great player. After he became the first face of the game. Jerry West was the first logo of the game. Lebron James was chosen as the second face of the game in hopes he could carry the type of excitement that Magic, Bird, and Jordan did.

            I personally thought Kobe should have been selected as that guy.

            They are putting everything behind Lebron and he is very good just not as exciting as the era before him IMO.

            paytc

          4. PERFECTLY SAID!
            100 % ACCURATE.

            To this day NBA politics uses the BS media to manipulate the minds of fans.

            Who does Adam Silver frequently spend time with….top execs of BSpn.

            That says it all.

          5. To me JAMES is boring, I don’t watch his games, he has always been a power player the power is the guys around he is, a TEAM jumper that turned me off ,

          6. Yes I too am not crazy watching Lebron jump from one stacked all star filled team to find another. And I don’t like the way he gets away pushing off when players defend him close. He definitely gets the benefit of the calls and league support.
            But he is a great player I can’t deny him of that. Not at the level of MJ, Magic, and Kobe IMO. But great non the less.

            Paytc

      3. “he can be better than Magic” still a horrible comment. What rookie, who has never played an NBA game, has been told he can be that great (realistically). In the preseason did people say possibly DRose can be better than MJ? Is anyone saying KAT realistically can be better than Kareem? Mudiay can be better than Kobe? MAYBE LeBron. But he still cant win the top 5 Alltime argument now. So as a rookie (before playing an NBA game) it was an uphill battle to argue “he can be the greatest ever”. To say any of those things along with what you said is grasping at straws. Don’t hide behind the “can” word. So I can say “Anthony Bennett can be better than Blake Griffin”. NO. Just because you say “can” it doesn’t remove reality. We can start setting ceilings for DLO in two years and many games.

        1. What is wrong with believing he can based on his obvious visible talent?

          What is wrong with having the champion mentality? Thats what we Lakers expect, nothing less!

    4. Russell has the potential, if he continues to hone his body, refine his game, and display the same fire and passion year in and out, to cement his name among the all-time greats. There will never be another Magic but talent wise and mentally, Russell is on that same level. Due to Magic’s height and shooting mechanics, there were positives and negatives to his game and the same with Russell. Magic could play power forward or even center if need to but could never hang with the fast elite small guards and his shot was more stand-still push. Russell is an underrated athlete for sure: he has good lateral quickness and length combine with a 39inch vertical. In today’s small ball league, Russell could play small forward on some occasions based on matchups. Also, Russell has a true jump shot with a silky smooth release so he has a lot more potential and variety to his outside game. The parallels between them are amazing court vision, basketball IQ, passing ability and rare gift to make others around them much better. Only time will tell but we must all pray for the Lakers and Russell’s health and well-being because that is the one uncontrolled variable that can derail the true path and destiny of an elite prospect like Russell.

    5. Not even close. The thought shouldn’t even be a legal comparison until a rookie at least plays “one” meaningful NBA game. What has Russell done to even be compared to Nick Van Exel or Jordan Farmar?

      I don’t think Byron Scott was comparing Russell to Magic. I think Byron Scott is hoping Russell will study Magic and use Magic as a model to pattern after. He just has a bit of Magic like potential in some aspects. The uncanny ability to see things before they develop. But that doesn’t allow Russell to skip over all Magic accomplished in the league. He can’t be a “great” player until he can have great seasons back to back and hopefully win at least one playoff game. Then at least one championship.

      Let’s have the conversation that Russell is a “good” NBA player before considering him a great one. And then once he has a couple of great years we could start the thought of his legacy scratching the surface of “great” consideration.

      You see there are five levels to prove yourself on.

      1. pre season

      2. regular season.

      3. post season/playoffs

      4. conference championship

      5. championship finals

      Do well on those levels you may get selected as a league all star.

      Then “great” players do those things for multiple years.

      Go Lakers !

      Paytc

      1. I do know is that russell more of a pure point than van exel, and a better passer than bot him and farmer

        1. Perhaps? But my point is at least Nick Van Excel and Farmar played well in preseason, regular season, post season, and I believe they both made it to the championship round.

          So we have to at least let Russell prove he can play well in the regular season. There is no merit or justification on comparing him to any legend especially Magic Johnson.

          But I think Byron Scott said what he said because he wants to give the kid the best model to pattern after.

          Then ignorant and excited fans take things the wrong way and make ridiculous comparisons and predictions.

          Paytc

          1. Yeah but none of them came in at 19 either. I can see his potential, and has much more than farmer, i love van exel, a scoring point guard that can pass, but not the classic point like russell

          2. Ok it’s hard to argue the ceiling for Russell. He has game. But lets pull for him to max out and reach the top of it. Not crown him a champion before he wins a regular season or playoff game.

            Paytc

          3. Not crowning him, just saying jes more of the classic point that all. He does things you cant teach. We just dont know yet if hes mentally tough, and thats whatwe have to find out

          4. Fair and true statement. I am leaning in the same direction you are with the young man. I’m pulling for him and see what you see in him.

            But I was also the biggest Bo Jackson fan. Bo Jackson is still the only player to date who every time he touched the ball you held your breath knowing he could go all the way. Bo was too big to grab and too fast to catch. Unfortunately Bo Jackson never got to give us all he had to offer on the football field. He still will go down as the only player ever you feared would go all the way every time.

            There is big time excitement in Laker land again.

            I will be watching and pulling for all our young players.
            And I would be surprised if Russell doesn’t become one of the leagues best.

            You see there are five levels to prove yourself on.

            1. pre season

            2. regular season.

            3. post season/playoffs

            4. conference championship

            5. championship finals

            Do well on those levels you may get selected as a league all star.

            Then “great” players do those things for multiple years.

            Go Lakers !

            Paytc

          5. That’s monkey see monkey do one makes a statement not knowing if he is right or wrong and the lesser follow his lead and every thing gets out of control.

          1. Me I am always here just most of the time not interested in arguing over bad post, so today I could not hold back plus the wife and our daughters went out shopping and for lunch, they try to get together a few time a month, how you doing?

          2. Im doing good, and am very very excited from what I have seen so far from our great organization. Thank you for asking.

            I can feel the chemistry coming together well with our new talented roster. So different from Lin and Hill last year.

          3. Its going to be OK this year but like all team it will have those up and down days, I just hope they can handle those days and understand those are learning days not bad days.

  • :D!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! suck up bryon is :D!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i remember bryon said in summer league russel is not magic johnson and now hes saying comparing him to him. it shows the credibility of bryon scott

    1. Russell is not Magic is true.
      Players around Russell have to stay ready just like players around Magic had to stay ready is true. Conclusion, non credibleness in these statements are nowhere to be found.

  • :D!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! suck up bryon is :D!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i remember bryon said in summer league russel is not magic johnson and now hes saying comparing him to him. it shows the credibility of bryon scott

    1. ‘Russell is not Magic’ — true.
      ‘Players around Russell have to stay ready just like players around Magic had to stay ready’ — true. Conclusion, Byron Scott is credible in these two statements.

  • Wonder who the next Lakers coach will be. I would offer Becky Hammon the job. I think she’ll be a great coach for these young guys

      1. Mark Jackson isn’t a very good x’s and o’s coach. Same with Brooks. Watching OKC play iso ball was awful. Thib another old school coach.

        1. I like mark because he worked with Curry (a young shooting PG), worked with a young team, and every year he coached the team record improved.

  • Wonder who the next Lakers coach will be. I would offer Becky Hammon the job. I think she’ll be a great coach for these young guys

      1. Mark Jackson isn’t a very good x’s and o’s coach. Same with Brooks. Watching OKC play iso ball was awful. Thib another old school coach.

        1. I like mark because he worked with Curry (a young shooting PG), worked with a young team, and every year he coached the team record improved.

  • A few years ago I wanted Kendall Marshall to be our PG of the future based on his passing. Then we got JC I thought he would be the future PG. But Now D’angelo is having me all excited about the future team. Clarkson is thing to be in the shadows of Randle & Russell. That just shows the talent we now have on the team.

    1. Good problems to have.

      Let’s give credit to the Lakers vets for being fundamental to the quick development we have seen so far in these rookies.

      Without the advice of the vets they would be struggling a little more. They are off to a good start.

  • A few years ago I wanted Kendall Marshall to be our PG of the future based on his passing. Then we got JC I thought he would be the future PG. But Now D’angelo is having me all excited about the future team. Clarkson is going to be in the shadows of Randle & Russell. That just shows the talent we now have on the team.

    1. Good problems to have.

      Let’s give credit to the Lakers vets for being fundamental to the quick development we have seen so far in these rookies.

      Without the advice of the vets they would be struggling a little more. They are off to a good start.

  • Remember joshhh who said that DLo was a bust after only watching him for 20 minutes, or that Thomas guy who wanted the Lakers to send DLo to the DLeague. Or the myriad of Fat’lil Okafor lovers….crickets.

    1. I have been a big vocal supporter of Russell since he started playing for us but I was one of those who initially believed passing on a big like Towns and Okafor, PRIOR TO LANDING Hibbert, was a huge mistake.

      Maybe the FO knew they were going to land a good center or maybe there were secret considerations of Hibbert via the Kareem connection prior to the draft. Who knows.
      All that we do know is that the FO was pretty confident we had the center position covered, because the Lakers shocked every pro analyst with their decision.

      1. They supposedly had a deal with Hibbert before the draft happen. Which makes since why the picked DLo

        1. How do you know that Dubz?

          Did you read that somewhere? I would be interested in reading that. I know you pull stuff like that from other sites from time to time.

          Thanks.

          1. It was a Lakers reporter. I’m gonna try and find it. I believe he was having a conversation with Mitch.

  • Remember joshhh who said that DLo was a bust after only watching him for 20 minutes, or that Thomas guy who wanted the Lakers to send DLo to the DLeague. Or the myriad of Fat’lil Okafor lovers….crickets.

    1. I have been a big vocal supporter of Russell since he started playing for us but I was one of those who initially believed passing on a big like Towns and Okafor, PRIOR TO LANDING Hibbert, was a huge mistake.

      Maybe the FO knew they were going to land a good center or maybe there were secret considerations of Hibbert via the Kareem connection prior to the draft. Who knows.
      All that we do know is that the FO was pretty confident we had the center position covered, because the Lakers shocked every pro analyst with their decision.

      1. They supposedly had a deal with Hibbert before the draft happen. Which makes since why the picked DLo

        1. How do you know that Dubz?

          Did you read that somewhere? I would be interested in reading that. I know you pull stuff like that from other sites from time to time.

          Thanks.

          1. It was a Lakers reporter. I’m gonna try and find it. I believe he was having a conversation with Mitch.

  • Larry Sanders is reportedly interested in signing with a western conference team.
    Lakers is the team of ‘comebacks’:
    Bryant, Hibbert, Randle, the team itself, Upshaw, Metta and Young can all relate to that word. Just saying..

  • Larry Sanders is reportedly interested in signing with a western conference team.
    Lakers is the ‘comeback’ team this year:
    Bryant, Hibbert, Randle, the team itself, Upshaw, Metta and Young can all relate to that. Just saying..

  • Beat Kings Showcase 6’9″ F Holmes – Solid Like to see if can play Defense. Showcase
    Frazier G – Defense, is what I’am looking for. DR & JC have been
    allowing TOO many guards deep into paint, and unable SO Far to slow down
    Opponents on D. Showcase 7’0″ Upshaw – let Hibbert rest sore knees. (No
    MORE Sacre, Black, Kelly – they had years to showcase)

  • Beat Kings Showcase 6’9″ F Holmes – Solid Like to see if can play Defense. Showcase
    Frazier G – Defense, is what I’am looking for. DR & JC have been
    allowing TOO many guards deep into paint, and unable SO Far to slow down
    Opponents on D. Showcase 7’0″ Upshaw – let Hibbert rest sore knees. (No
    MORE Sacre, Black, Kelly – they had years to showcase)

  • Clearly the Lakers are trying to re-create the showtime era Lakers. This has been Jim Buss’ wish for a very long time. With the sudden resurgence of the 3-and-D, this could be a good gamble for the Lakers.

    Hibbert had been tutored by Kareem. Randle currently being mentored by James Worthy. Russell’s ball passing is being compared to Magic’s ball passing. JC could certainly reprise the role of Byron Scott. Anthony Brown’s defense if developed could be something to compared to Cooper. Nance can fill in as Rambis. That leaves Kobe to play the role of AC Green. LOL

  • Clearly the Lakers are trying to re-create the showtime era Lakers. This has been Jim Buss’ wish for a very long time. With the sudden resurgence of the 3-and-D, this could be a good gamble for the Lakers.

    Hibbert had been tutored by Kareem. Randle currently being mentored by James Worthy. Russell’s ball passing is being compared to Magic’s ball passing. JC could certainly reprise the role of Byron Scott. Anthony Brown’s defense if developed could be something that can be compared to Cooper. Nance can fill in as Rambis. That leaves Kobe to play the role of AC Green. LOL

    1. Well he does know Magic better than almost anyone. They we’re teammates & are friends. So Imma believe Scott. & he’s a great passer & already a better shooter than magic

    1. Well he does know Magic better than almost anyone. They we’re teammates & are friends. So Imma believe Scott. & he’s a great passer & already a better shooter than magic

  • Is Byron saying if the guys fail to anticipate some visionary but unexpected pass from Russell, the resulting TOs will be on them? Oh no, guys, you gotta expect the unexpected now. Byron somehow always find ways for me to doubt his coaching ability. You can’t throw things out like that to the guys without preparing properly. BTW, the Magic comparison is way too much AND a PG’s vision is meaningless if the other four guys on the floor don’t make it work.
    OK, I admit it, I can’t stand it having Byron as our coach. NONO NO NO NO LOL.

      1. How about a response with more context? Of course, Byron knows more. What’s your point? We lesser beings can’t comment at all? Or we should limit ourselves to be cheerleaders only?

        1. Hating and dissing at byron wońt make us move forward. Pg are risky type of player. If you’ve watched magic you Know that sometimes he was throwing the ball to man’s land at the very beginning and when his friends were not used to play with him. Showtime was unbelievable to watch but it could turn into a farce when they were not clicking and playing on the same page. Players were not always ready to catch magic’s pass. Byron knows what he is talking about. He played with magic and he caoched and teached some of thé best all Time Pg. He knows more than you do on the subject.

          1. I don’t hate Byron. Hate is a big no no for me. I just don’t think Byron is good enough for my team. First the Magic comparison is too much of a hype. The kid has done nothing yet. Next, asking the rest to be ready for an unexpected pass is like saying be warned you may not know what he will be doing? LOL. I think that is bad for team chemistry. My problem with Byron is that he is always too Star player-driven. With Kobe, I will give him a pass but the kid is still unproven rookie.

          2. But you’re taking “unexpected pass” and translating that into “Russell doesn’t know what he’s doing” which isn’t at all what Scott saying (or implying).

            Russell knows what he’s doing and it’ll only help those around him to get used to getting passes that someone with a lack of court vision would not be able to pull off.

            Just saying, there’s a difference between Magic/Nash getting you the ball and Mario Chalmers/Chucky Atkins getting you the ball. With one pair, you’re lucky to get a pass that doesn’t result in a TO if they do anything outside of their skill level. With the other, you’re wondering “how in the world did he see me?” as you’re running down the court after a made shot.

          3. I have nothing against Russell except that he has yet to show why he deserves all those hype. Let me make really clear what I meant, I just dislike the way Byron made his point about how good Russell can be. If you tell me, ‘hey you better be ready to catch that ball even if you least expect to see it coming. Because that rookie is that good, like Magic’. My first response will be, so it will be my fault if I miss that wonder pass? Isn’t Byron warning guys to be prepared for that wonder pass? Byron loves his stars too much, the rest not too much. That’s MY POINT.

          4. Let’s remind, D’Angelo is 19. I see some of the things that he does and sees and like what I see. It’s going to take about 3 years before you really, really see what this kid can do.

          5. I have nothing against the kid. I hope he will be the next Magic for us. My observation is simply he may not be ready to start and contribute like a star now. You are right, he’s just 19. So, why all the hurry? Why is he designated starter so early on?

          6. Designating him as a starter has less to do with hurrying him and more to do with the logic of, Russell, Clarkson and Hibbert are your future 3. Everyone thinks your starters MUST be your best 3, like there is this huge pressure that comes with starting. Actually, I’d argue that’s who finishes your games but I digress that when you look at the team as constructed that this isn’t a team that’s going to the Finals this year. The pressure on the Lakers right now is low. They aren’t expected to make the Finals.

            Going back to your 3 though, what starting all 3 is about is getting them used to playing together, developing habits together, building the on court chemistry and continuity. Everyone has this particular view about starting, that it’s very much different than playing the same number of minutes off the bench. In a sense, they’re right it is different, but where it’s different their wrong about. The difference is, now you put Russell with Williams, Young, Bass, and either Upshaw or Black. You’ve put him in position to play most of his minutes with the bench guys, developing said things with them. You’ve taken him away from the bulk minutes with Randle and Clarkson, whom he’s supposed to be developing these things with. They aren’t going to win a title this year. Chances are, they aren’t making the playoffs this year. Any expectations they have are what they put on themselves. So you can throw them in the deep end where the deep end is 6′ instead of 15′ and let them learn to swim together.

          7. Magic as a comparative isn’t too much hype. There is a difference between comparing greatness of Magic to what Russell could be, that’s hype. But comparing a detail such as this is logical. He’s using a player with a particular style of passing and playmaking. The no looks, things like that. Magic knew where his guys were and made passes to them when he saw they were open, he made plays. Players are used to getting passed to through set plays, Russell can run those sets but when he sees an open guy, those guys need to be ready with hands up because he’s seeing something the defense is giving him. That’s what Magic is. It’s just logic.

    1. Your eyes and hands are supposed to be up at all times. Scott is right. In Phoenix when Nash was running the plays, every guy needed to have his eyes on Nash and his hands up ready for that pass.

      1. I don’t disagree with that. All eyes should be on the player with the ball. My problem is the way Byron put it out there. He’s a star player coach. Well, maybe it’s me. That’s ok.

        1. You’re right, all eyes should be, but it’s not always the case, players are rotating and doing and moving into their particular sets. Most sets though are already pre-defined and the players already know where the ball is expected to go and don’t always look up. You see it on every team. Now players have to adjust to someone like Russell who can pass the ball and break the play like Nash or Magic did when he sees an opening that others aren’t seeing.

  • Is Byron saying if the guys fail to anticipate some visionary but unexpected pass from Russell, the resulting TOs will be on them? Oh no, guys, you gotta expect the unexpected now. Byron somehow always find ways for me to doubt his coaching ability. You can’t throw things out like that to the guys without preparing properly. BTW, the Magic comparison is way too much AND a PG’s vision is meaningless if the other four guys on the floor don’t make it work.
    OK, I admit it, I can’t stand it having Byron as our coach. NONO NO NO NO LOL.

      1. How about a response with more context? Of course, Byron knows more. What’s your point? We lesser beings can’t comment at all? Or we should limit ourselves to be cheerleaders only?

        1. Hating and dissing at byron wońt make us move forward. Pg are risky type of player. If you’ve watched magic you Know that sometimes he was throwing the ball to man’s land at the very beginning and when his friends were not used to play with him. Showtime was unbelievable to watch but it could turn into a farce when they were not clicking and playing on the same page. Players were not always ready to catch magic’s pass. Byron knows what he is talking about. He played with magic and he caoched and teached some of thé best all Time Pg. He knows more than you do on the subject.

          1. I don’t hate Byron. Hate is a big no no for me. I just don’t think Byron is good enough for my team. First the Magic comparison is too much of a hype. The kid has done nothing yet. Next, asking the rest to be ready for an unexpected pass is like saying be warned you may not know what he will be doing? LOL. I think that is bad for team chemistry. My problem with Byron is that he is always too Star player-driven. With Kobe, I will give him a pass but the kid is still unproven rookie.

          2. But you’re taking “unexpected pass” and translating that into “Russell doesn’t know what he’s doing” which isn’t at all what Scott saying (or implying).

            Russell knows what he’s doing and it’ll only help those around him to get used to getting passes that someone with a lack of court vision would not be able to pull off.

            Just saying, there’s a difference between Magic/Nash getting you the ball and Mario Chalmers/Chucky Atkins getting you the ball. With one pair, you’re lucky to get a pass that doesn’t result in a TO if they do anything outside of their skill level. With the other, you’re wondering “how in the world did he see me?” as you’re running down the court after a made shot.

          3. I have nothing against Russell except that he has yet to show why he deserves all those hype. Let me make really clear what I meant, I just dislike the way Byron made his point about how good Russell can be. If you tell me, ‘hey you better be ready to catch that ball even if you least expect to see it coming. Because that rookie is that good, like Magic’. My first response will be, so it will be my fault if I miss that wonder pass? Isn’t Byron warning guys to be prepared for that wonder pass? Byron loves his stars too much, the rest not too much. That’s MY POINT.

          4. Let’s remind, D’Angelo is 19. I see some of the things that he does and sees and like what I see. It’s going to take about 3 years before you really, really see what this kid can do.

          5. I have nothing against the kid. I hope he will be the next Magic for us. My observation is simply he may not be ready to start and contribute like a star now. You are right, he’s just 19. So, why all the hurry? Why is he designated starter so early on?

          6. Designating him as a starter has less to do with hurrying him and more to do with the logic of, Russell, Clarkson and Hibbert are your future 3. Everyone thinks your starters MUST be your best 3, like there is this huge pressure that comes with starting. Actually, I’d argue that’s who finishes your games but I digress that when you look at the team as constructed that this isn’t a team that’s going to the Finals this year. The pressure on the Lakers right now is low. They aren’t expected to make the Finals.

            Going back to your 3 though, what starting all 3 is about is getting them used to playing together, developing habits together, building the on court chemistry and continuity. Everyone has this particular view about starting, that it’s very much different than playing the same number of minutes off the bench. In a sense, they’re right it is different, but where it’s different their wrong about. The difference is, now you put Russell with Williams, Young, Bass, and either Upshaw or Black. You’ve put him in position to play most of his minutes with the bench guys, developing said things with them. You’ve taken him away from the bulk minutes with Randle and Clarkson, whom he’s supposed to be developing these things with. They aren’t going to win a title this year. Chances are, they aren’t making the playoffs this year. Any expectations they have are what they put on themselves. So you can throw them in the deep end where the deep end is 6′ instead of 15′ and let them learn to swim together.

          7. Magic as a comparative isn’t too much hype. There is a difference between comparing greatness of Magic to what Russell could be, that’s hype. But comparing a detail such as this is logical. He’s using a player with a particular style of passing and playmaking. The no looks, things like that. Magic knew where his guys were and made passes to them when he saw they were open, he made plays. Players are used to getting passed to through set plays, Russell can run those sets but when he sees an open guy, those guys need to be ready with hands up because he’s seeing something the defense is giving him. That’s what Magic is. It’s just logic.

    1. Your eyes and hands are supposed to be up at all times. Scott is right. In Phoenix when Nash was running the plays, every guy needed to have his eyes on Nash and his hands up ready for that pass.

      1. I don’t disagree with that. All eyes should be on the player with the ball. My problem is the way Byron put it out there. He’s a star player coach. Well, maybe it’s me. That’s ok.

        1. You’re right, all eyes should be, but it’s not always the case, players are rotating and doing and moving into their particular sets. Most sets though are already pre-defined and the players already know where the ball is expected to go and don’t always look up. You see it on every team. Now players have to adjust to someone like Russell who can pass the ball and break the play like Nash or Magic did when he sees an opening that others aren’t seeing.

  • Russell “IS BNOT A 2ND PICK IN THE DRAFT” they made a huge mistake once again in the front office so no way will they be honest & admit that, so they spend all the time talking about how great the guy pass’s the ball. Hello, it’s called basketball because the ball is supposed to go into the basket, maybe Russell needs to learn how to do that s well as pass. He will start a few games & more stuff about his passing will be printed & in the end we will end up looking for a point guard in free agency next year with this man coming off the bench at best….

    1. who should the lakers have drafted?enlighten us. if i were you i would shut up and let the people that drafted clarkson and randle do the drafting.

    2. Who should the pick have been? Okafor has looked horrible and has a knee injury already, Porzingis has had 2 injuries already and mudiay is shooting 2-11 every night. Besides trading down and getting Stanley Johnson, who looks like a beast, dlo appears to have been the right choice.

      1. if we can get a re do, with knowing what we know now, im pretty sure it would be Stanley J.. that kid is a nice..but besides that Russ was the next best pick

        1. Yeah, hindsight being 20/20 I wonder if Sacramento would have gone for Clarkson swaggy and the #2 for cousins and the #6. We had rondo at pg if we wanted him.

          Rondo
          Kobe
          Johnson
          Randle
          Cousins

          And then make a hard push for Conley in 2016. I do dig the Clarkson/dlo/Randle young 3 thing we have going on…so maybe it’ll all work out.

          1. exactly. that was the problem. I would have done the trade he proposed above because it heavily favors LA. It wasn’t even in the discussion.
            Mudiay
            L. Williams
            Kobe
            Randle
            Cousins

          2. Mudiay, Clarkson, Kobe, Randle, Cousins. Lou is considered a 6th man Scott would be playing him off the bench regardless.

          3. but we wouldn’t have gotten the 6th pick. Im going off of reporting done by Stein and Woj. Including the trade potentially including ORL

          4. Rondo is highly overrated and isn’t something we need. I wish people would get over their hardon for him. Once he blew his achilles that was it. His defense isn’t there, he can’t run plays anymore really, he’s never had an outside jumper, he can’t drive the lane anymore for inside buckets. Losing that quickness he had killed any value he had.

    3. Dude, Russell is 19. He’s 2-3 years away from actually showing or doing anything to be considered consistent. Do you actually know anything about basketball? Developing young guys? Or are you one of those “give me now, what have you done for me lately?” kinda guys? When you bring in a young guy, they can be impactful yes, but never always consistent. The guy isn’t the rare breed Kobe Bryant or LeBron James. He’s likely not going to be a once in a generation guy. Even guys like Chris Paul, Steph Curry and other point guards took a couple years or so before they actually broke out and were impactful superstars. Curry has been in the league for 6 years, it’s only over the last 3 seasons that he was actually impactful, especially because of injury. Chris Paul put up nice numbers his first 2 years in, his 3 year he got much better. Let the kid has his summer league mistakes, let the kid learn the players, the plays, etc. Let him find his way and find his groove and stop expecting him to simply plug in like you’d expect in NBA2k. Had some idiot behind me at the Lakers game against Maccabi who was doing that stupid crap, talking about how he does all these amazing passes in 2k and wanted to see something amazing on the court. Video games vs reality don’t mix.

  • Russell “IS BNOT A 2ND PICK IN THE DRAFT” they made a huge mistake once again in the front office so no way will they be honest & admit that, so they spend all the time talking about how great the guy pass’s the ball. Hello, it’s called basketball because the ball is supposed to go into the basket, maybe Russell needs to learn how to do that s well as pass. He will start a few games & more stuff about his passing will be printed & in the end we will end up looking for a point guard in free agency next year with this man coming off the bench at best….

    1. who should the lakers have drafted?enlighten us. if i were you i would shut up and let the people that drafted clarkson and randle do the drafting.

    2. Who should the pick have been? Okafor has looked horrible and has a knee injury already, Porzingis has had 2 injuries already and mudiay is shooting 2-11 every night. Besides trading down and getting Stanley Johnson, who looks like a beast, dlo appears to have been the right choice.

      1. if we can get a re do, with knowing what we know now, im pretty sure it would be Stanley J.. that kid is a nice..but besides that Russ was the next best pick

        1. Yeah, hindsight being 20/20 I wonder if Sacramento would have gone for Clarkson swaggy and the #2 for cousins and the #6. We had rondo at pg if we wanted him.

          Rondo
          Kobe
          Johnson
          Randle
          Cousins

          And then make a hard push for Conley in 2016. I do dig the Clarkson/dlo/Randle young 3 thing we have going on…so maybe it’ll all work out.

          1. exactly. that was the problem. I would have done the trade he proposed above because it heavily favors LA. It wasn’t even in the discussion.
            Mudiay
            L. Williams
            Kobe
            Randle
            Cousins

          2. Mudiay, Clarkson, Kobe, Randle, Cousins. Lou is considered a 6th man Scott would be playing him off the bench regardless.

          3. but we wouldn’t have gotten the 6th pick. Im going off of reporting done by Stein and Woj. Including the trade potentially including ORL

          4. Rondo is highly overrated and isn’t something we need. I wish people would get over their hardon for him. Once he blew his achilles that was it. His defense isn’t there, he can’t run plays anymore really, he’s never had an outside jumper, he can’t drive the lane anymore for inside buckets. Losing that quickness he had killed any value he had.

    3. Dude, Russell is 19. He’s 2-3 years away from actually showing or doing anything to be considered consistent. Do you actually know anything about basketball? Developing young guys? Or are you one of those “give me now, what have you done for me lately?” kinda guys? When you bring in a young guy, they can be impactful yes, but never always consistent. The guy isn’t the rare breed Kobe Bryant or LeBron James. He’s likely not going to be a once in a generation guy. Even guys like Chris Paul, Steph Curry and other point guards took a couple years or so before they actually broke out and were impactful superstars. Curry has been in the league for 6 years, it’s only over the last 3 seasons that he was actually impactful, especially because of injury. Chris Paul put up nice numbers his first 2 years in, his 3 year he got much better. Let the kid has his summer league mistakes, let the kid learn the players, the plays, etc. Let him find his way and find his groove and stop expecting him to simply plug in like you’d expect in NBA2k. Had some idiot behind me at the Lakers game against Maccabi who was doing that stupid crap, talking about how he does all these amazing passes in 2k and wanted to see something amazing on the court. Video games vs reality don’t mix.

  • i think the starting line up should be Russ/JC, Kobe, Young/Mettta, JR and HIbb.. have JC/Russ come in for Kobe.. i like that line up .. i dont like the feel of Kobe at SF ..

    1. Kobe can play the 3 fool, at the 3 he doesnt handle the ball much hes a 2 guard but if u paid attention to his career u see that hes played alot of small forward too my blood

  • i think the starting line up should be Russ/JC, Kobe, Young/Mettta, JR and HIbb.. have JC/Russ come in for Kobe.. i like that line up .. i dont like the feel of Kobe at SF ..

    1. Kobe can play the 3 fool, at the 3 he doesnt handle the ball much hes a 2 guard but if u paid attention to his career u see that hes played alot of small forward too my blood

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