Byron Scott Explains Lakers Decision To Cut Robert Upshaw

The Los Angeles Lakers announced two roster cuts on Tuesday morning, waiving center Robert Upshaw and guard Michael Frazier II, bringing their roster to 17 players. Head coach Byron Scott said that both decisions were based on experience. Specifically with Robert Upshaw, though the Lakers saw “flashes” of what he could do, ultimately, there was a “big time learning curve on both ends of the floor.”

If things fall in the Lakers favor, the hope is for both Upshaw and Frazier II to clear waivers and for the Lakers to sign both to their D-League team, the Los Angeles D-Fenders. Scott specifically mentioned that they’d like to keep their eyes on Upshaw, should he find himself on the D-Fenders.

Regarding Upshaw’s off-the-court issues that had him dismissed from two college programs, Scott suggested they will likely be a concern for several NBA teams, until Upshaw proves otherwise.

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“Heโ€™s going to have that stigma with him for awhile, until he can kind of erase it, and thatโ€™s probably going to be one of his biggest problems to deal with,” Scott said, while also mentioning that team camaraderie factored into the Lakers decision.

Upshaw told LakersNation.com during their first week of training camp that he was extremely confident that he would make the final roster, after sizing himself up against the competition in practices. On Tuesday, Scott admitted that Upshaw’s upside is “big time,” but also said experience and creating a balanced roster outweighed his unknown potential.

After shedding about 25 pounds from the end of Summer League to the start of training camp, Scott said Upshaw’s transformation over the past couple months clearly shows his “desire to play,” but the Lakers did what was in the best interest of their team.

Both Jabari Brown and Metta World Peace will be battling for a roster spot this week. The Lakers also have an interesting case with Jonathan Holmes, who dislocated his shoulder in the Lakers win over the Portland Trail Blazers on Monday, and are responsible for his salary while he’s injured. With the NBA regular season roster maximum set at 15, expect a couple more cuts to follow for the Lakers.

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Wait, what?! A team that is building for the future cuts a guy because he has a “big time learning curve”?!!

  1. To say the guy has “big time” upside then cut him. That’s exactly what happened to whiteside who continues to show that big time upside that the lakers FO declined on . yes Byron likes Sacre as a person, we get that. Don’t throw away talent for ego or friendship. Miami is a contender and Whiteside is a big part of it. Riley is not afraid of upside.

    1. Everyone passed on Whiteside Miami found him in desperation let’s not make Rikey look like a genius,he had so many injuries that he gave Whiteside a chance.,Upshaw will need to prove himself in the D League.. The 35,000 guarantee was telling everyone that they weren’t going to put much investment in his early development. He had himself to blame.

      1. Miami didn’t just find him . Their assistant GM was on top of it for a long time. He actually made it happen. But Riley made the final decision. Genius or not, bottom line, he has the diamond you threw away.

        If you say Upshaw is to blame, I can agree with that too. If I was going after that position I wouldn’t let someone with less talent take my spot.

        1. Injuries forced Miami to look at him….At any rate…I’m bit going to cry over someone who has been given many opportunities… Like it or not it’s up to him to change the narrative…. He is another just like Whiteside who has to prove himself again.

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    2. He also said “team camaraderie” played a role, which suggests Upshaw wasn’t making many friends in the locker room.

    3. Whiteside’s an idiot who got himself on Shaqtin a Fool for brainlessly walking out of bounds at the most critical time of a game.

      1. so what? is he not going to be a key cog in Miami’s playoff run. Do you think Miami is a weaker team with Whiteside? All NBA analysts will say no. The Heat will laugh at that notion. He’s a huge part of their new big 4.

        Also, if costing 1 game is an unforgivable sin, what does it say about Sacre who did it 3 straight games.

        1. So why does Vegas have the same odds for the Heat as the Bulls at winning the title (both 7th best overall, but tied for second in the east behind Clevleand).If they’re not gonna doing anything, vegas wouldn’t hedge money on them doing so.

          You’re not talking about sacre but if you indict 1 person for 1 particular brainfart, it would be within reason to indict another far worse when he has multiple infractions.

        2. you want me to chill but you take a parting shot. Nice. Why don’t you go cuddle up with your sister’s play toy, you seem a bit butt hurt.

        3. You can say whatever about Whiteside you want, if it’s not fair, then I’ll call you out on it. You’re the one who started the personal attack. Sure sign of big butthurt.

        4. You didn’t call me out on being unfair. I mentioned one incident, you made assumptions, then went into a rant because you saw an opportunity to profess your undying love for Whiteside.

        5. Yes you injected a comment to add nothing to the conversation, since you believe it means nothing. At least you profess to be a nothing.

        6. By the way, I didn’t indict him. I mentioned one incident, you’re the one who got butthurt and went off into tangents. You ok buddy?

        7. Of course you indicted him. You used an example of bonehead play to make your point that he isn’t a good player. You want to make a case, make it fair.

        8. I mentioned an instance and said it was idiotic. Do you disagree? Where in my statement did I say he isn’t a good player?

        9. So what’s the point of saying he made one bad play. Some random thought to prove nothing? You’re that kind of guy?

        10. Dude, it was just the mention of a bad play because it stood out and supplied quite a bit of entertainment. It’s a comment section on a fan blog site, don’t be so sensitive.You’re that kind of guy?

        11. If you want to comment take in consideration what was said in the post that you are commenting on. people assume you are talking about a topic, as oppose putting down random thoughts for the sake of doing nothing. If you want to put down random thoughts try your own twitter page. People respond to my post, i assume they have something to say.

        12. Congratulations on your acceptance into the Internet Police Jr Merit Volunteer Program.

        13. Sorry, never was asked. Wouldn’t want it. I’m already 100% invested in the kicksomedisrecpectfulfoofacein dojo.

        14. Sacre is relevent because of the fact that as of now he was saved over Upshaw who was waived first.

        15. In the last 3 minutes of the Portland game, Sacre missed a hook shot when he could’ve gone to the rim on two guards. Turned it over on an errant pass to MWP, got ripped by a guard on an inbound pass. Was heckled with MVP chants, then fouled a 3 point shooter in crunch time. He did every thing he could to cause a collapse. And Scott wants to keep him, as if the previous few years hasn’t been enough time to determine he’s a trash bball player. So dumb.

        16. Hahaha, exactly. The only thing I can think of is Sacre must be a genuinely very nice person (cheerleader) otherwise they would have let him go a while back.

          The Lakers obviously dont want to admit they were wrong in picking him in the draft by waiving him.

        17. Yea I don’t get it either. Sacre made Chris Kaman look like a baller. If it wasn’t for Huertas he would’ve looked like ish all preseason. He better thank Huertas for his job.

        18. Honestly without Huertas poor Sacre is exposed as the liability that he is to our team.

          They better not even play Sacre all year unless we are on top by a 30 point margin in the 4th, and even then I would be worried. Just look at what happened last game!

        19. I’m not sure thats Scott’s decision to NOT cut Sacre, he’s best Buds with Trainer and Mitch.. He should Have left when D’Antoni left… He does not jump or stop anybody in the paint, why force us to see him another season,also Kelley too WHY????????

        20. Let’s just be clear, having Upshaw over Sacre will not affect the Lakers chances at the playoffs for the duration of Sacre’s extended contract.

  2. WE ARE NOT BEING TOLD THE WHOLE STORY!

    On the one hand Byron says Upshaw has BIGTIME upside, and on the other he says he has a big learning curve before he is ready. What the heck?

    This makes zero sense!

    1. I do believe that BS & the FO makes those decisions, YESTER DAY THE FO WAS THE BEST, now some guys that are not paying the bills say how bad they are, cant keep every body happy.

        1. I don’t use cable I use DISH FOR 28 YEARS @ one time I had one of those 12 dishes on my roof, with a remote in the house and if you wanted to watch some thing else you had to go to a different satellite, you spent most of your time moving the dish.

        2. It cost 2.44 per game to watch any game being played that night, I cant say I am spending to much to for BB And that’s the full season.. That covers any or all games.

  3. Exactly, these jokers are morons. You don’t let a talented young big man that can be your star center for the next decade go because he needs to get more experience. Seems he has the same experience as Russell and he is a point guard that has to learn much more. You could have easily got rid of Scarce. No offense to the guy, but he is easily replacable. Upshaw showed that he is serious and ready to put in the work by losing 25 pounds to help his game to get ready for camp. Yes he has a troubled past, but from what I have been seeing is a young man maturing and realizing he has a once in a lifetime shot to use his talents to achieve what most basketball players dreaming of one day playing in the NBA. I seriously doubt he will make it through waivers, too much talent and there must be a team that is bad that figures it can gamble on a guy who would’ve been a lottery pick if not for his troubles. And as far as learning, Roy Hibbert is a great player for him to learn to really get the most out of his talents on the defensive end.

    1. Agreed. I blame that dumb Lakers fan who was heckling Sacre with an MVP chant at the end of the Blazers game. Dumb dumb Byron Scott probably thought they meant it and was convinced Sacre was the people’s choice.. Fail.

  4. The Lakers ultimately need to decide whether they are rebuilding or contending and stop trying to fool fans into buying tickets.

  • Wait, what?! A team that is building for the future cuts a guy because he has a “big time learning curve”?!!

    1. To say the guy has “big time” upside then cut him. That’s exactly what happened to whiteside who continues to show that big time upside that the lakers FO declined on . yes Byron likes Sacre as a person, we get that. Don’t throw away talent for ego or friendship. Miami is a contender and Whiteside is a big part of it. Riley is not afraid of upside.

      1. Everyone passed on Whiteside Miami found him in desperation let’s not make Rikey look like a genius,he had so many injuries that he gave Whiteside a chance.,Upshaw will need to prove himself in the D League.. The 35,000 guarantee was telling everyone that they weren’t going to put much investment in his early development. He had himself to blame.

        1. Miami didn’t just find him . Their assistant GM was on top of it for a long time. He actually made it happen. But Riley made the final decision. Genius or not, bottom line, he has the diamond you threw away.

          If you say Upshaw is to blame, I can agree with that too. If I was going after that position I wouldn’t let someone with less talent take my spot.

          1. Injuries forced Miami to look at him….At any rate…I’m bit going to cry over someone who has been given many opportunities… Like it or not it’s up to him to change the narrative…. He is another just like Whiteside who has to prove himself again.

      2. He also said “team camaraderie” played a role, which suggests Upshaw wasn’t making many friends in the locker room.

      3. Whiteside’s an idiot who got himself on Shaqtin-a-Fool for brainlessly walking out of bounds with the ball in the final minutes of a game they could’ve won.

        1. so what? is he not going to be a key cog in Miami’s playoff run. Do you think Miami is a weaker team with Whiteside? All NBA analysts will say no. The Heat will laugh at that notion. He’s a huge part of their new big 4.

          Also, if costing 1 game is an unforgivable sin, what does it say about Sacre who did it 3 straight games.

          1. So why does Vegas have the same odds for the Heat as the Bulls at winning the title (both 7th best overall, but tied for second in the east behind Clevleand).If they’re not gonna doing anything, vegas wouldn’t hedge money on them doing so.

            You’re not talking about sacre but if you indict 1 person for 1 particular brainfart, it would be within reason to indict another far worse when he has multiple infractions.

          2. you want me to chill but you take a parting shot. Nice. Why don’t you go cuddle up with your sister’s play toy, you seem a bit butt hurt.

          3. You can say whatever about Whiteside you want, if it’s not fair, then I’ll call you out on it. You’re the one who started the personal attack. Sure sign of big butthurt.

          4. You didn’t call me out on being unfair. I mentioned one incident, you made assumptions, then went into a rant because you saw an opportunity to profess your undying love for Whiteside.

          5. Yes you injected a comment to add nothing to the conversation, since you believe it means nothing. At least you profess to be a nothing.

          6. By the way, I didn’t indict him. I mentioned one incident, you’re the one who got butthurt and went off into tangents. You ok buddy?

          7. Of course you indicted him. You used an example of bonehead play to make your point that he isn’t a good player. You want to make a case, make it fair.

          8. I mentioned an instance and said it was idiotic. Do you disagree? Where in my statement did I say he isn’t a good player?

          9. So what’s the point of saying he made one bad play. Some random thought to prove nothing? You’re that kind of guy?

          10. Dude, it was just the mention of a bad play because it stood out and supplied quite a bit of entertainment. It’s a comment section on a fan blog site, don’t be so sensitive.You’re that kind of guy?

          11. If you want to comment take in consideration what was said in the post that you are commenting on. people assume you are talking about a topic, as oppose putting down random thoughts for the sake of doing nothing. If you want to put down random thoughts try your own twitter page. People respond to my post, i assume they have something to say.

          12. Congratulations on your acceptance into the Internet Police Jr Merit Volunteer Program.

          13. Sorry, never was asked. Wouldn’t want it. I’m already 100% invested in the kicksomedisrecpectfulfoofacein dojo.

          14. Sacre is relevent because of the fact that as of now he was saved over Upshaw who was waived first.

          15. In the last 3 minutes of the Portland game, Sacre missed a hook shot when he could’ve gone to the rim on two guards. Turned it over on an errant pass to MWP, got ripped by a guard on an inbound pass. Was heckled with MVP chants, then fouled a 3 point shooter in crunch time. He did every thing he could to cause a collapse. And Scott wants to keep him, as if the previous few years hasn’t been enough time to determine he’s a trash bball player. So dumb.

          16. Hahaha, exactly. The only thing I can think of is Sacre must be a genuinely very nice person (cheerleader) otherwise they would have let him go a while back.

            The Lakers obviously dont want to admit they were wrong in picking him in the draft by waiving him.

          17. Yea I don’t get it either. Sacre made Chris Kaman look like a baller. If it wasn’t for Huertas he would’ve looked like ish all preseason. He better thank Huertas for his job.

          18. Honestly without Huertas poor Sacre is exposed as the liability that he is to our team.

            They better not even play Sacre all year unless we are on top by a 30 point margin in the 4th, and even then I would be worried. Just look at what happened last game!

          19. I’m not sure thats Scott’s decision to NOT cut Sacre, he’s best Buds with Trainer and Mitch.. He should Have left when D’Antoni left… He does not jump or stop anybody in the paint, why force us to see him another season,also Kelley too WHY????????

          20. Let’s just be clear, having Upshaw over Sacre will not affect the Lakers chances at the playoffs for the duration of Sacre’s extended contract.

    2. WE ARE NOT BEING TOLD THE WHOLE STORY!

      On the one hand Byron says Upshaw has BIGTIME upside, and on the other he says he has a big learning curve before he is ready. What the heck?

      This makes zero sense!

      1. I do believe that BS & the FO makes those decisions, YESTER DAY THE FO WAS THE BEST, now some guys that are not paying the bills say how bad they are, cant keep every body happy.

          1. I don’t use cable I use DISH FOR 28 YEARS @ one time I had one of those 12 dishes on my roof, with a remote in the house and if you wanted to watch some thing else you had to go to a different satellite, you spent most of your time moving the dish.

          2. It cost 2.44 per game to watch any game being played that night, I cant say I am spending to much to for BB And that’s the full season.. That covers any or all games.

    3. Exactly, these jokers are morons. You don’t let a talented young big man that can be your star center for the next decade go because he needs to get more experience. Seems he has the same experience as Russell and he is a point guard that has to learn much more. You could have easily got rid of Scarce. No offense to the guy, but he is easily replacable. Upshaw showed that he is serious and ready to put in the work by losing 25 pounds to help his game to get ready for camp. Yes he has a troubled past, but from what I have been seeing is a young man maturing and realizing he has a once in a lifetime shot to use his talents to achieve what most basketball players dreaming of one day playing in the NBA. I seriously doubt he will make it through waivers, too much talent and there must be a team that is bad that figures it can gamble on a guy who would’ve been a lottery pick if not for his troubles. And as far as learning, Roy Hibbert is a great player for him to learn to really get the most out of his talents on the defensive end.

      1. Agreed. I blame that dumb Lakers fan who was heckling Sacre with an MVP chant at the end of the Blazers game. Dumb dumb Byron Scott probably thought they meant it and was convinced Sacre was the people’s choice.. Fail.

    4. The Lakers ultimately need to decide whether they are rebuilding or contending and stop trying to fool fans into buying tickets.

  • Enough already lol. Sad times for Laker fans when you’re mad at cutting an undrafted rookie with issues

    1. That’s not what fans are mad about. It’s not that Upshaw is gone, but that fact Sacre is still here.

        1. Just look no further than the team we played last night, Portland. They had three 7-footers all 10 times better than Sacre.

          1. Ya that has never been one of my favorite sides, but some times my wife laughs at me but I believe its for some other thing I have done.

          2. Watch that language Al. LOL.

            Its always good that others know it too. lol.

          3. First of all that is a stupid question. Why they won or lost in preseason has nothing to do with Sacre. They are playing to see who will make the team, they are playing to get used to playing together. This is practice. these games don’t count so who cares if they won.

          4. One of those 7 footers was a ex Laker, Chris Kaman, and he SMOKES Sacre as a center, he’s also at least 4X more $$$

          5. And honestly, Chris Kaman shouldn’t be smoking anyone, let alone a 7-foot center.

          1. If you don’t have nothing better to do tonight watch THE CLIPPERS/WARRIORS @ 7:30 pm on espn just to have some thing to compare for the 22nd with the LAKERS.

          2. Oh thats right! I saw that announced on the news yeterday.

            Theres a little trash talking by doc rivers going on. Should be good.

            THANKS BUDDY! Very good comparison to see how chokers do against Golden State vs how we did.

          3. Normally I dont watch the chokers but this will be a good study to compare to how we did.

            Plus I like the trash talking going back and forth between the chokers and Jerry West!

          4. I like to compare, I only do it with the KLAPPERS, and I have a feeling they are going to get after it. this could be good. this way we see two of our tougher teams.

          5. Well I got a bowl of ice cream and now to settle down for the day , catch ya later.

          6. Boring game so far between chokers and Warriors.

            I feel sorry for Blake, all that talent on a choke prone team. Waste of talent.

            I’ll tell you right now
            Huertas > CP3
            Hibbert > D Jordan
            (Future) Randle > Blake

            Yes I’m saying it.

          7. And you are a documented troll who is one complaint away from being banned from this site,not to mention you are a coward and a child.

            PS Lin succcks but not as much his fans!

          8. Lol look in the mirror buddy. All you do is post biased nonsense on every article. You’re the real troll here.

            You throw a temper tantrum whenever someone tells you the facts or the stats.

            I agree that Jeremy Lin sucks. I just don’t get why you are so obsessed with him.

            Kobe isn’t god and the Lakers are not a playoff team right now. Get over it lol.

          9. Right. And I foresee Huertas starting for us at the 1 for a while and letting Russell run the subs. Move Clarkson back to the 2 and Kobe back to the 3 to start. Randle probably at the 4, depending on the matchup.

          10. Well, ma’am, Russell may very well start, but he would be well-served by running the second team against our opponent’s scrubs for a while.

          11. Usually i agree with u but saying huertas is better than chris paul, is way overboard. Paul is the best pure point guard in the league

          12. Im confident about what I’m saying, If Im wrong then I’m wrong but :
            Huertas is better than CP3 , YES I SAID IT!

          13. Very wrong huertas has yet to play in regular season. Just because hes played well in pre season doesnt mean its going to work in real season

          14. Remember your opinion, I AM CONFIDENT about mine.

            Lets revisit this conversation mid season. Don’t forget!

            And If I’m wrong, you can let me know.

        2. yes but wouldn’t it be better to have your third center a guy who can be a star center?

      1. AND the ANSWER is BECAUSE THE FO RUNS THE LAKERS and is their choice, your either a LAKER fan or not.

      2. I would feel really bad if Sacre ever read these forums. There’s no reason to hate the darn guy. He’s everything you want for a backup center. Laker fans are way too hard on the guy.

        Let’s just be clear. It’s really unreasonable to expect every third string center to have the potential to become Hassan Whiteside.

    2. Truly sad isn’t it. 29 other teams passed on Upshaw also but Lakers fans jumping off bridges cause we cut him. Hilarious

          1. Technically yes but technically he is also correct, 29 other teams did pass on Clarkson.

            Theres no guarantee that Clarkson gets picked up if we dont pick him up at 46.

            I havent read any report where a team has publicly stated they were specifically going after Clarkson.

          2. I was very happy we got him but I understood his uphill battle. He did not cut the cake. Folks are tired of Sacre, I get it but those same folks were tired of Wes Johnson. Doc Rivers did not hesitate to scoop him up. Let’s not forget the Cavs wanted Sacre. Obviously there’s a market out there for him.

          3. Agree but the fact that doc picked up Wes Johnson proves that doc is not that bright.

            This is the same doc that let the chokers choke back to back with arguably the most stacked team. This is also the same doc rivers that is claiming the warriors were lucky and shouldnt have won last year. This is also the same doc rivers that acted a fool and physically blocked anyone from communicating with D Jordan in his own home. Who in their right mind resorts to that!

          4. I’m not gonna defend anything Clippers. My point is other teams will pick up A Wes, Kendall Marshall, Lin and Sacre as the Cavs wanted him.

          5. You trust Sacre? I don’t have faith in him being able to stay consistent.

            You think he will help or hinder our team? I think hinder.

          6. He wont have that big of a role this season. 3rd string cheerleading less there’s injury.

          7. Hope so. Because its ok to mess up preseason but imagine the last game instead being an important late season game and then not winning but loosing? He would be hated.

          8. Exactly the reason Upshaw would’ve been a better choice. 3rd string center won’t play much of a role which would’ve been perfect to let a guy sit back and develop for a year. Either way, if we’re forced to rely on either Sacre or Upshaw for big minutes we’re screwed. Might as well keep the guy with upside.

          9. Mike Bresnahan:

            “Upshaw often left practice without doing extra work.”

          10. OK, so he doesn’t have Kobe’s drive. He didn’t do over time, not exactly grounds to say he wasn’t deserving of a roster spot over Sacre. With or without the extra work he still has better long term outlook then Sacre.

          11. That’s your opinion on who deserved what. Coaches decide who they see fit based on what their criteria of what they want out of a player. BTW, there is more than just that as to the reason they let Upshaw go. Hopefully he lands with the Defenders. Obviously the kid is not ready for the NBA.

          12. I agree with you Daryl, but this is what does not make sense.

            If there are good unknown reasons why he was waived, then those same reasons should stand as reasons not to allow him on our DLeague. If its that big of a concern, why risk bringing him into our D League. Makes NO sense.

            I really wish we would be told the truth!

          13. Scott said he did not do enough to warrant a roster spot. Sacre has a guaranteed contract and knows the system better, therefore it makes more sense to keep him given the luxury tax implication coupled with the other stuff.

            While Upshaw has a higher, potential ceiling, he did not show the desire, Scott and the FO expected from a kid looking for a second chance. Why invest luxury taxes into that? The lack of enthusiasm in wanting to do more in practice was the nail in his coffin. Now couple that with his inconsistent play in summer league and the preseason. They do like the kid but would rather chance a Defenders stint or nothing right now. Understandable if you take fandom personal feeling/preference out.

          14. What exactly does that mean though.

            Does it mean that Byron felt Upshaw was not willing to put the extra work in, or does it mean Upshaw was slacking?

          15. If you are looking for a second chance wouldn’t you be all in going above and beyond to prove yourself?

          16. Yes we did. We bought the pick and directed the team to pick Clarkson on our behalf.

          17. Passing on a player during the draft is way different from passing on an undrafted player… surely you guys would know that

          18. So your point is Upshaw was not deserving of a first round pick as previously projected? Or what point are you trying to make?

          19. No, my point was clarifying that there is a big difference between JC getting passed up in the first round and Upshaw never getting drafted.
            About Upshaw not deserving a first round pick… how is that even a question? According to every NBA scout, he didn’t deserve a first OR second round pick. Keep in mind that these are professional NBA scouts with years of experience evaluating talent just like Upshaw. They’ve also had way more than clips of practices and glimpses of preseason performances to work off of.

          20. Although I do want to add that I am actually with you in the Upshaw camp. Really wanted to see him develop on the Lakers and would be a great player to root for…

            I just don’t know why you would ask if he was deserving of a first round pick when even the biggest Upshaw fans know he needs more work to even be signed now

          21. You were bragging about our having grabbed Sacre at the 60th pick. I like Rob, but not as much as you, apparently.

          22. Was Sacre our legitimate pick or did we buy his rights like we did with Clarkson? I forget.

            Do you think the staff just questioned Upshaw’s drive or character? Maybe he was just too “strange” for the Lakers. I know I would be…:-)

          1. That doesnt explain their contradictions.

            Why highly praise someone and at the same time say there is a big learning curve.

            I suspect Upshaw was insubordinate. Maybe he expressed or acted out his discontent by not putting in extra work. Who knows.

          2. Yeah I agree with you on that last part. Seems like he wasn’t giving 100% to the team like he said he would. It’s really unfortunate considering how good he could have been.

      1. And 12 teams passed on Kobe. Should the Lakers have followed suit? You always post dumb comments.

        1. Boy oh boy. The idiots on the web. It’s amazing. WTH has Kobe got to do with this? He was a lotto pick and was not gonna fall out of the top 14 due to character issues or other things. Kick rocks fool.

          1. Are you referring to yourself? Does logic escape you? You said 29 other teams passed so the point is other teams passed on Kobe too so does that mean we should have done the same? If you can’t see the correlation its probably because you aren’t very smart.

          2. The fact that you continue to argue this shows your ignorance. Kobe’s situation was far and away different than Upshaw and has no correlation at all. Kobe was passed on only due to high school jumps to the pros being rare back then. Upshaw got kicked out of two college’s and no one wanted to touch him. He also had a heart condition in question.

          3. No it shows yours. The fact that you can’t see that its the same thing shows your ignorance and lack of awareness. Every team passed on Clarkson too. You think they don’t regret that? Is that a better example for you? What goes on in your brain that prohibits you from understanding analogies and logical reasoning?

          4. Dumb smart people are a trip. Upshaw was not drafted at all. That means 30 teams passed on him twice.TWICE! Had character issues and a heart condition that made him poison in the eyes of GM’s around the league. You cited Kobe and Clarkson but they had none of those issues as hinderance on draft day. Please stop comparing apples to oranges. Wow

          5. Wesley Matthews wasn’t drafted either, neither was your boyfriend Jeremy Lin. So what!

            WHY he wasn’t drafted is irrelevant. Your argument is that every team passed on him thus we should too yet here are instances in which the Lakers took players others passed on as well and it worked out well for us. Dumb smart? You aren’t even smart, you’re just dumb.

            Its not apples to oranges. Both Kobe and Clarkson were passed on, moreso Clarkson than Kobe. You can’t even argue against that.

          6. Why he wasn’t drafted irrelevant? Byron Scott explained that was a factor in his release and how it is something he will have hang over him till he proves otherwise. Were done here cause I can’t take anymore of your ignorance.

          7. Shut up short bus Daryl. It’s a real simple concept yet you still can’t grasp it. Poor thing.

    3. Sacre is one of the worst NBA players I’ve seen. He has zero upside. Does he make a play once in a while or make a basket once a game yes. But he is a complete moron. and has no upside what so ever. he is not getting better and never will. Every single one of us that watches feels the same way. We let better plays go like Ed Davis, and I will be pissed if he makes the team. Russel sucks too. Just saying he is maybe the third best PG on the team and the 5th best 2 guard. That is a fact. I like most everything else we have done and we do have a better season ahead. Upshaw simply looked lost at times, made bad decisions on shots and did not dominate the boards at all. He is a major project.

      1. The question is, is that project worth developing for the minimal price that we had him for and just stash him away as a third string.

        The obvious answer is yes. It wasnt costing us anything to keep him, but we stood to gain ALL the benefits if and when he became ready.

        There has to be another unannounced reasons, that they are not telling us. Maybe he had an insubordination issue and talked back to the managers.

        Who knows.

    4. It is certainly a sign of the times. The last name is still Buss. But Jimmy is no Jerry, and we have years of desolation to endure before contending again.

  • Enough already lol. Sad times for Laker fans when you’re mad at cutting an undrafted rookie with issues

    1. That’s not what fans are mad about. It’s not that Upshaw is gone, but the mind-boggling fact that Sacre is still here.

        1. Just look no further than the team we played last night, Portland. They had three 7-footers all 10 times better than Sacre.

          1. Ya that has never been one of my favorite sides, but some times my wife laughs at me but I believe its for some other thing I have done.

          2. Watch that language Al. LOL.

            Its always good that others know it too. lol.

          3. First of all that is a stupid question. Why they won or lost in preseason has nothing to do with Sacre. They are playing to see who will make the team, they are playing to get used to playing together. This is practice. these games don’t count so who cares if they won.

          4. One of those 7 footers was a ex Laker, Chris Kaman, and he SMOKES Sacre as a center, he’s also at least 4X more $$$

          5. And honestly, Chris Kaman shouldn’t be smoking anyone, let alone a 7-foot center.

          1. If you don’t have nothing better to do tonight watch THE CLIPPERS/WARRIORS @ 7:30 pm on espn just to have some thing to compare for the 22nd with the LAKERS.

          2. Oh thats right! I saw that announced on the news yeterday.

            Theres a little trash talking by doc rivers going on. Should be good.

            THANKS BUDDY! Very good comparison to see how chokers do against Golden State vs how we did.

          3. Normally I dont watch the chokers but this will be a good study to compare to how we did.

            Plus I like the trash talking going back and forth between the chokers and Jerry West!

          4. I like to compare, I only do it with the KLAPPERS, and I have a feeling they are going to get after it. this could be good. this way we see two of our tougher teams.

          5. Well I got a bowl of ice cream and now to settle down for the day , catch ya later.

          6. Boring game so far between chokers and Warriors.

            I feel sorry for Blake, all that talent on a choke prone team. Waste of talent.

            I’ll tell you right now
            Huertas > CP3
            Hibbert > D Jordan
            (Future) Randle > Blake

            Yes I’m saying it.

          7. And you are a documented troll who is one complaint away from being banned from this site,not to mention you are a coward and a child.

            PS Lin succcks but not as much his fans!

          8. Lol look in the mirror buddy. All you do is post biased nonsense on every article. You’re the real troll here.

            You throw a temper tantrum whenever someone tells you the facts or the stats.

            I agree that Jeremy Lin sucks. I just don’t get why you are so obsessed with him.

            Kobe isn’t god and the Lakers are not a playoff team right now. Get over it lol.

          9. Right. And I foresee Huertas starting for us at the 1 for a while and letting Russell run the subs. Move Clarkson back to the 2 and Kobe back to the 3 to start. Randle probably at the 4, depending on the matchup.

          10. Well, ma’am, Russell may very well start, but he would be well-served by running the second team against our opponent’s scrubs for a while.

          11. Usually i agree with u but saying huertas is better than chris paul, is way overboard. Paul is the best pure point guard in the league

          12. Im confident about what I’m saying, If Im wrong then I’m wrong but :
            Huertas is better than CP3 , YES I SAID IT!

          13. Very wrong huertas has yet to play in regular season. Just because hes played well in pre season doesnt mean its going to work in real season

          14. Remember your opinion, I AM CONFIDENT about mine.

            CP3 does not have the court vision amd passing skills that Huertas has. The only thing Chris Paul has over Huertas is his offense, thats it. And that offense does not outweigh the qualities of Huertas which make our entire team better!

            Lets revisit this conversation mid season. Don’t forget!

            And If I’m wrong, you can let me know. If I’m right allot of people are going to forget I called it this day.

        2. yes but wouldn’t it be better to have your third center a guy who can be a star center?

      1. AND the ANSWER is BECAUSE THE FO RUNS THE LAKERS and is their choice, your either a LAKER fan or not.

      2. I would feel really bad if Sacre ever read these forums. There’s no reason to hate the darn guy. He’s everything you want for a backup center. Laker fans are way too hard on the guy.

        Let’s just be clear. It’s really unreasonable to expect every third string center to have the potential to become Hassan Whiteside.

    2. Truly sad isn’t it. 29 other teams passed on Upshaw also but Lakers fans jumping off bridges cause we cut him. Hilarious

          1. Technically yes but technically he is also correct, 29 other teams did pass on Clarkson.

            Theres no guarantee that Clarkson gets picked up if we dont pick him up at 46.

            I havent read any report where a team has publicly stated they were specifically going after Clarkson.

          2. I was very happy we got him but I understood his uphill battle. He did not cut the cake. Folks are tired of Sacre, I get it but those same folks were tired of Wes Johnson. Doc Rivers did not hesitate to scoop him up. Let’s not forget the Cavs wanted Sacre. Obviously there’s a market out there for him.

          3. Agree but the fact that doc picked up Wes Johnson proves that doc is not that bright.

            This is the same doc that let the chokers choke back to back with arguably the most stacked team. This is also the same doc rivers that is claiming the warriors were lucky and shouldnt have won last year. This is also the same doc rivers that acted a fool and physically blocked anyone from communicating with D Jordan in his own home. Who in their right mind resorts to that!

          4. I’m not gonna defend anything Clippers. My point is other teams will pick up A Wes, Kendall Marshall, Lin and Sacre as the Cavs wanted him.

          5. You trust Sacre? I don’t have faith in him being able to stay consistent.

            You think he will help or hinder our team? I think hinder.

          6. He wont have that big of a role this season. 3rd string cheerleading less there’s injury.

          7. Hope so. Because its ok to mess up preseason but imagine the last game instead being an important late season game and then not winning but loosing? He would be hated.

          8. Exactly the reason Upshaw would’ve been a better choice. 3rd string center won’t play much of a role which would’ve been perfect to let a guy sit back and develop for a year. Either way, if we’re forced to rely on either Sacre or Upshaw for big minutes we’re screwed. Might as well keep the guy with upside.

          9. Mike Bresnahan:

            “Upshaw often left practice without doing extra work.”

          10. OK, so he doesn’t have Kobe’s drive. He didn’t do over time, not exactly grounds to say he wasn’t deserving of a roster spot over Sacre. With or without the extra work he still has better long term outlook then Sacre.

          11. That’s your opinion on who deserved what. Coaches decide who they see fit based on what their criteria of what they want out of a player. BTW, there is more than just that as to the reason they let Upshaw go. Hopefully he lands with the Defenders. Obviously the kid is not ready for the NBA. Again, not every prospect with upside will become a Whiteside.

          12. I agree with you Daryl, but this is what does not make sense.

            If there are good unknown reasons why he was waived, then those same reasons should stand as reasons not to allow him on our DLeague. If its that big of a concern, why risk bringing him into our D League. Makes NO sense.

            I really wish we would be told the truth!

          13. Scott said he did not do enough to warrant a roster spot. Sacre has a guaranteed contract and knows the system better, therefore it makes more sense to keep him given the luxury tax implication coupled with the other stuff.

            While Upshaw has a higher, potential ceiling, he did not show the desire, Scott and the FO expected from a kid looking for a second chance. Why invest luxury taxes into that? The lack of enthusiasm in wanting to do more in practice was the nail in his coffin. Now couple that with his inconsistent play in summer league and the preseason. They do like the kid but would rather chance a Defenders stint or nothing right now. Understandable if you take fandom personal feeling/preference out.

          14. What exactly does that mean though.

            Does it mean that Byron felt Upshaw was not willing to put the extra work in, or does it mean Upshaw was slacking?

          15. If you are looking for a second chance wouldn’t you be all in going above and beyond to prove yourself?

          16. Yes we did. We bought the pick and directed the team to pick Clarkson on our behalf.

          17. Passing on a player during the draft is way different from passing on an undrafted player… surely you guys would know that

          18. So your point is Upshaw was not deserving of a first round pick as previously projected? Or what point are you trying to make?

          19. No, my point was clarifying that there is a big difference between JC getting passed up in the first round and Upshaw never getting drafted.
            About Upshaw not deserving a first round pick… how is that even a question? According to every NBA scout, he didn’t deserve a first OR second round pick. Keep in mind that these are professional NBA scouts with years of experience evaluating talent just like Upshaw. They’ve also had way more than clips of practices and glimpses of preseason performances to work off of.

          20. Although I do want to add that I am actually with you in the Upshaw camp. Really wanted to see him develop on the Lakers and would be a great player to root for…

            I just don’t know why you would ask if he was deserving of a first round pick when even the biggest Upshaw fans know he needs more work to even be signed now

          21. You were bragging about our having grabbed Sacre at the 60th pick. I like Rob, but not as much as you, apparently.

          22. Was Sacre our legitimate pick or did we buy his rights like we did with Clarkson? I forget.

            Do you think the staff just questioned Upshaw’s drive or character? Maybe he was just too “strange” for the Lakers. I know I would be…:-)

          1. That doesnt explain their contradictions.

            Why highly praise someone and at the same time say there is a big learning curve.

            I suspect Upshaw was insubordinate. Maybe he expressed or acted out his discontent by not putting in extra work. Who knows.

          2. Yeah I agree with you on that last part. Seems like he wasn’t giving 100% to the team like he said he would. It’s really unfortunate considering how good he could have been.

      1. And 12 teams passed on Kobe. Should the Lakers have followed suit? You always post dumb comments.

        1. Boy oh boy. The idiots on the web. It’s amazing. WTH has Kobe got to do with this? He was a lotto pick and was not gonna fall out of the top 14 due to character issues or other things. Kick rocks fool.

          1. Are you referring to yourself? Does logic escape you? You said 29 other teams passed so the point is other teams passed on Kobe too so does that mean we should have done the same? If you can’t see the correlation its probably because you aren’t very smart.

          2. The fact that you continue to argue this shows your ignorance. Kobe’s situation was far and away different than Upshaw and has no correlation at all. Kobe was passed on (but still drafted in the lotto) only due to high school jumps to the pros being rare back then. Upshaw got kicked out of two college’s and no one wanted to touch him. He also had a heart condition in question.

          3. No it shows yours. The fact that you can’t see that its the same thing shows your ignorance and lack of awareness. Every team passed on Clarkson too. You think they don’t regret that? Is that a better example for you? What goes on in your brain that prohibits you from understanding analogies and logical reasoning?

          4. Dumb smart people are a trip. Upshaw was not drafted at all. That means 30 teams passed on him twice.TWICE! Had character issues and a heart condition that made him poison in the eyes of GM’s around the league. You cited Kobe and Clarkson but they had none of those issues as hinderance on draft day. Please stop comparing apples to oranges. Wow

          5. Wesley Matthews wasn’t drafted either, neither was your boyfriend Jeremy Lin. So what!

            WHY he wasn’t drafted is irrelevant. Your argument is that every team passed on him thus we should too yet here are instances in which the Lakers took players others passed on as well and it worked out well for us. Dumb smart? You aren’t even smart, you’re just dumb.

            Its not apples to oranges. Both Kobe and Clarkson were passed on, moreso Clarkson than Kobe. You can’t even argue against that.

          6. Why he wasn’t drafted irrelevant? Byron Scott explained that was a factor in his release and how it is something he will have hang over him till he proves otherwise. Were done here cause I can’t take anymore of your hard headed ignorance.

          7. Shut up short bus Daryl. It’s a real simple concept yet you still can’t grasp it. Poor thing.

          8. Also why do you have a new account? They banned you too? lol

    3. Sacre is one of the worst NBA players I’ve seen. He has zero upside. Does he make a play once in a while or make a basket once a game yes. But he is a complete moron. and has no upside what so ever. he is not getting better and never will. Every single one of us that watches feels the same way. We let better plays go like Ed Davis, and I will be pissed if he makes the team. Russel sucks too. Just saying he is maybe the third best PG on the team and the 5th best 2 guard. That is a fact. I like most everything else we have done and we do have a better season ahead. Upshaw simply looked lost at times, made bad decisions on shots and did not dominate the boards at all. He is a major project.

      1. You triping saying that a 19 year old rookie with skills suck. He be a great player one day

      2. The question is, is that project worth developing for the minimal price that we had him for and just stash him away as a third string.

        The obvious answer is yes. It wasnt costing us anything to keep him, but we stood to gain ALL the benefits if and when he became ready.

        There has to be another unannounced reasons, that they are not telling us. Maybe he had an insubordination issue and talked back to the managers.

        Who knows.

    4. It is certainly a sign of the times. The last name is still Buss. But Jimmy is no Jerry, and we have years of desolation to endure before contending again.

  • as far as this article goes, BS didnt really give a decent reason as to why he cut Upshaw, but what can you do now

        1. This is exactly why fans are frustrated Randy.

          There has to be other reasons, because this makes NO sense.

          1. Lakers FO knows the details. As well as reporters. It will come out eventually. Most if not all teams think he is toxic

          2. What source did you use to determine that:
            “Most if not all teams think he is toxic”.

            I do believe the truth will come out eventually.

          3. what that hes a crackhead? Ive heard that but who cares. He is 7ft tall with major upside.

  • as far as this article goes, BS didnt really give a decent reason as to why he cut Upshaw, but what can you do now

        1. This is exactly why fans are frustrated Randy.

          There has to be other reasons, because this makes NO sense.

          1. Lakers FO knows the details. As well as reporters. It will come out eventually. Most if not all teams think he is toxic

          2. What source did you use to determine that:
            “Most if not all teams think he is toxic”.

            I do believe the truth will come out eventually.

          3. what that hes a crackhead? Ive heard that but who cares. He is 7ft tall with major upside.

  • Sacre has experience, big time experience in dropping the ball, giving up rebounds and cheerleading. Guess Sacre’s cheerleading ways is now paying off, camaraderie stuff. Can’t believe they went for a player who hasn’t improved since he was a rookie rather than someone that can be developed alongside Randle, Clarkson & Russell. Some decision makers in the FO are really making the fan base scratch their heads big time.

      1. She has given Jimmy 1 more year to “contend”. She committed that if they don’t win the first round playoff series in 2016-17 league year, he will be “let go”. I doubt that will happen though.

  • Sacre has experience, big time experience in dropping the ball, giving up rebounds and cheerleading. Guess Sacre’s cheerleading ways is now paying off, camaraderie stuff. Can’t believe they went for a player who hasn’t improved since he was a rookie rather than someone that can be developed alongside Randle, Clarkson & Russell. Some decision makers in the FO are really making the fan base scratch their heads big time.

      1. She has given Jimmy 1 more year to “contend”. She committed that if they don’t win the first round playoff series in 2016-17 league year, he will be “let go”. I doubt that will happen though.

  • Management/coaching must know that Upshaw’s issues are still lingering.

    This “lack of experience” excuse just doesn’t hold weight. Yea Sacre has a few more years in the league, but he still sucks.

    1. I think they are worried about the issues, but it’s true that Upshaw was pretty lost out there and *right now* is not good enough to make the team. Sad to say, but Sacre actually is better *right now*.

      1. Your right, but the key word is Right Now, Sacre has four years in the NBA, and two years at Gonzaga behind him, Upshaw has 1/2 a year of college ball and Summer league.

      2. Thought I was the only one who saw how lost Upshaw was on the court.

        Upshaw “might” be an asset in the future, but a few here has neglected the fact that the Lakers are trying to squeeze in the play off on Kobe’s swan song.

        Sacre might be a third string center would no more upside. But the Chemistry he brings to the team is invaluable.

        1. So invaluable in fact that they had their worst record ever last year. You just can’t buy that kind of chemistry.

      3. Hahahaha, no sorry Dana, Sacre only looked good these last two games because of Huertas. Sacre is no way better than Upshaw. This I can not be convinced of.

      4. Being pretty lost and/or out of position is expected out of a rookie. As a young player the great Kobe Bryant himself often went for the flashy play than the simple one, was turnover prone, and deviated from the system often (still does actually). The talent was obviously there with Kobe then and it’s obvious with Upshaw now.

        Even with his inexperience, Upshaw made some plays in this pre-season that Sacre can only dream of.

        Him getting cut is due solely to Upshaw’s “other issues”. It sucks but the FO and coaching staff had a better idea of his issues than we did.

  • Management/coaching must know that Upshaw’s issues are still lingering.

    This “lack of experience” excuse just doesn’t hold weight. Yea Sacre has a few more years in the league, but he still sucks.

    1. I think they are worried about the issues, but it’s true that Upshaw was pretty lost out there and *right now* is not good enough to make the team. Sad to say, but Sacre actually is better *right now*.

      1. Your right, but the key word is Right Now, Sacre has four years in the NBA, and two years at Gonzaga behind him, Upshaw has 1/2 a year of college ball and Summer league.

      2. Thought I was the only one who saw how lost Upshaw was on the court.

        Upshaw “might” be an asset in the future, but a few here has neglected the fact that the Lakers are trying to squeeze in the play off on Kobe’s swan song.

        Sacre might be a third string center would no more upside. But the Chemistry he brings to the team is invaluable.

        1. So invaluable in fact that they had their worst record ever last year. You just can’t buy that kind of chemistry.

      3. Hahahaha, no sorry Dana, Sacre only looked good these last two games because of Huertas. Sacre is no way better than Upshaw. This I can not be convinced of.

      4. Being pretty lost and/or out of position is expected out of a rookie. As a young player the great Kobe Bryant himself often went for the flashy play than the simple one, was turnover prone, and deviated from the system often (still does actually). The talent was obviously there with Kobe then and it’s obvious with Upshaw now.

        Even with his inexperience, Upshaw made some plays in this pre-season that Sacre can only dream of.

        Him getting cut is due solely to Upshaw’s “other issues”. It sucks but the FO and coaching staff had a better idea of his issues than we did.

  • So, it is Still up to Upshaw to remain a Laker? Choose LA Bruh, Hibbert will need a break, from time to time. Keep eyes on Big Upshaw, in Defenders (and by the way here is a couple mill to stay put, while develop)

    1. He has to clear waivers, which means when a team waives a player, they go on the waiver wire, the other 29 teams have the option to select them off of waivers, there is a set amount of time, and then they become a F/A. So if nobody picks him up, he could sign with the Defenders, but I bet, there’s a team that could use Upshaw.

      1. I dunno. 30 teams passed on him in the draft. I’m not sure anyone is eager to pick him up. Maybe. I do hope he gets an NBA job. But I wouldn’t bet on it.

  • So, it is Still up to Upshaw to remain a Laker? Choose LA Bruh, Hibbert will need a break, from time to time. Keep eyes on Big Upshaw, in Defenders (and by the way here is a couple mill to stay put, while develop)

    1. He has to clear waivers, which means when a team waives a player, they go on the waiver wire, the other 29 teams have the option to select them off of waivers, there is a set amount of time, and then they become a F/A. So if nobody picks him up, he could sign with the Defenders, but I bet, there’s a team that could use Upshaw.

      1. I dunno. 30 teams passed on him in the draft. I’m not sure anyone is eager to pick him up. Maybe. I do hope he gets an NBA job. But I wouldn’t bet on it.

    1. Face it, man. Upshaw is worse than all those guys. Someday he may be good, but right now he’s not. What Scott said in the video above is absolutely accurate.

      Now quit whining and get excited about the Lakers’ season!

      1. i hate to say it but your right. I was pulling for him and I really do think he is better than sacre and has a better upside, but he was taking too long to learn the offense and on most plays he was slow and confused. i think he lost too much weight or didnt gain any muscle because he was being pushed around too much out there. He needs time in the DL then we can call him up later in the year or even bring him back next year.

        1. Hope Upshaw choose LA too – Stick around Brother, forgive them, for they not Know what they do . . .

          1. bro, upshaw CANNOT set a screen for his life. the potential is there, but many don’t even get to touch their ceiling and with drug issues…. I would of cut the dude as well.

          2. not saying that bro, i dont like sacre, and i perfered to keep upshaw over sacre, im just stating facts. FO has said that it wasnt due to on court stuff so just like everything else in upshaws life he has let off court issues and or heart health stop his progress from basketball. ALSO FO does want to sign him to DL so not all is lost here.

      2. I hope Upshaw really wants to become a Laker, and stay on Defenders !! Actually, I would rather the Lakers play against a Black / Kelly / Sacre rather then an Upshaw

    2. I would hardly call Hibbert weak in the middle, he was a DPOY candidate just two seasons ago, Black is undersized but a capable backup when we go small, which will be the 2nd unit. Huertas and Black running the high screen and roll will be beautiful, and if the opposition cheats, Williams, and Swaggy will make them pay. MWP or Nance will round out the 2nd unit, one with experience and toughness, one with athleticism and defense.

        1. Hibbert will play 28-32 mpg, Black 15-18 mpg, I don’t see much of a drop off when the bench comes in, Black, Bass, Young, Williams, Huertas will put points on the board and may even extend leads against some benches.

        2. Right now Black is the best backup we have. He’s way stronger than Upshaw and can set a brick screen.

    1. Face it, man. Upshaw is worse than all those guys. Someday he may be good, but right now he’s not. What Scott said in the video above is absolutely accurate.

      Now quit whining and get excited about the Lakers’ season!

      1. i hate to say it but your right. I was pulling for him and I really do think he is better than sacre and has a better upside, but he was taking too long to learn the offense and on most plays he was slow and confused. i think he lost too much weight or didnt gain any muscle because he was being pushed around too much out there. He needs time in the DL then we can call him up later in the year or even bring him back next year.

        1. Hope Upshaw choose LA too – Stick around Brother, forgive them, for they not Know what they do . . .

          1. bro, upshaw CANNOT set a screen for his life. the potential is there, but many don’t even get to touch their ceiling and with drug issues…. I would of cut the dude as well.

          2. not saying that bro, i dont like sacre, and i perfered to keep upshaw over sacre, im just stating facts. FO has said that it wasnt due to on court stuff so just like everything else in upshaws life he has let off court issues and or heart health stop his progress from basketball. ALSO FO does want to sign him to DL so not all is lost here.

      2. I hope Upshaw really wants to become a Laker, and stay on Defenders !! Actually, I would rather the Lakers play against a Black / Kelly / Sacre rather then an Upshaw

    2. I would hardly call Hibbert weak in the middle, he was a DPOY candidate just two seasons ago, Black is undersized but a capable backup when we go small, which will be the 2nd unit. Huertas and Black running the high screen and roll will be beautiful, and if the opposition cheats, Williams, and Swaggy will make them pay. Bass, MWP or Nance will round out the 2nd unit, two with experience and toughness, one with athleticism and defense.

        1. Hibbert will play 28-32 mpg, Black 15-18 mpg, I don’t see much of a drop off when the bench comes in, Black, Bass, Young, Williams, Huertas will put points on the board and may even extend leads against some benches.

        2. Right now Black is the best backup we have. He’s way stronger than Upshaw and can set a brick screen.

  • If FO traded Kelly / Sacre / Black in package deal, ummm, we may get: a discount on a sm Popcorn, at the Budget movies

    1. Kelly isn’t going anywhere, he’s a stretch four, he is playing well this year so far, and he is under contract for 1.7 million dollars.

      1. at this point, trying to figure how to get Upshaw to stick around. so in my current frustration. . what a WASTE of 1.7 mil

      2. Of all those reasons, the $1.7M is the one that will keep him on the team. He is a proven scrub. This is the new Lakers, run (ruined?) by Jimmy Buss

  • If FO traded Kelly / Sacre / Black in package deal, ummm, we may get: a discount on a sm Popcorn, at the Budget movies

    1. Kelly isn’t going anywhere, he’s a stretch four, he is playing well this year so far, and he is under contract for 1.7 million dollars.

      1. at this point, trying to figure how to get Upshaw to stick around. so in my current frustration. . what a WASTE of 1.7 mil

      2. Of all those reasons, the $1.7M is the one that will keep him on the team. He is a proven scrub. This is the new Lakers, run (ruined?) by Jimmy Buss

  • CUT BYRON S-CUT NOW!!! He’s not doing the team any good and everyone should realize that by now. This is a new Laker’s team and needs new coaching style and strategies. BS is better off at being an opponent’s coach not the Lakers Nyahahahahahahahaha!!!!

    1. I agree. Byron doesn’t know how to coach defense or offense and he throws his players under the bus.

          1. Maybe. But Byron hasn’t been known to be great at drawing up plays. That’s something D’Antoni was good at

        1. IF he did draw that play then good. BUT I see that last play as Kelly’s judgement and guts on display. He was determined to make up for the errant inbound pass he made earlier.

          1. BS said himself that kelly ran the pay perfectly and that brown did a great job selling it. so yeah that tells me he drew it up. but kelly bet had made that shot the way he messed up on the inbounds play.

      1. Last year they had an awful roster and Byron managed to make them play with effort every game.

  • CUT BYRON S-CUT NOW!!! He’s not doing the team any good and everyone should realize that by now. This is a new Laker’s team and needs new coaching style and strategies. BS is better off at being an opponent’s coach not the Lakers Nyahahahahahahahaha!!!!

    1. I agree. Byron doesn’t know how to coach defense or offense and he throws his players under the bus.

          1. Maybe. But Byron hasn’t been known to be great at drawing up plays. That’s something D’Antoni was good at

        1. IF he did draw that play then good. BUT I see that last play as Kelly’s judgement and guts on display. He was determined to make up for the errant inbound pass he made earlier.

          1. BS said himself that kelly ran the pay perfectly and that brown did a great job selling it. so yeah that tells me he drew it up. but kelly bet had made that shot the way he messed up on the inbounds play.

      1. Last year they had an awful roster and Byron managed to make them play with effort every game.

  • Yes, Sacre is a little “better” than Upshaw at the moment, but we’re going nowhere this season. Seem it would have been a better investment on the potential upside of Upshaw than the obvious mediocrity of Sacre.

    Oh well. Hopefully Sacre proves me wrong.

    1. I dunno, I think this team will surprise you, come January. Give them some time. You might find yourself happy with this team.

        1. idk who that Dana person is, but shes a Sacre fan, he’s been with us how long, and what have we seen? Whats Jan going to show us, we havent already seen ..

          1. Actually Dana is now suddenly a Sacre fan but to her defense she has called it like it is in the past about Sacre being a liability.

            I guess shes going based on this seasons games but Huertas had allot to do with Sacre doing OK.

            Take Huertas out of the equation and the real Sacre is exposed.

          2. Actually, I’ve watch Sacre move his feet well and play good positional defense. He has even altered shots. But I’m still not a Sacre fan. It’s a false choice to say if you’re down on Upshaw you’re high on Sacre. I’m not thrilled with either one, but looking at it dispassionately I have to admit that between the two of them, Sacre has more to offer right now than Upshaw does. That only makes me a Sacre fan in the minds of simple people who can’t think deeply or with complexity.

            I had high hopes for Upshaw, but he was unable to deliver in time. I don’t get why everyone is so crazy over him. He isn’t showing anything at all. And Sacre has some skills and is a good teammate, which anyone looking it honestly has to admit. I hope he rides the pine the whole season and he never needs to play except in practice.

            Choosing Sacre over Upshaw doesn’t mean I’m a big Sacre fan. The choice is kind of like choosing whether you’d rather have your shin hit with a hammer or your tongue scraped with a potato peeler. Neither one is a very good option.

          3. I like you Dana well said and also having a great locker room guy is very underated it keeps the younger players pump up and encourage its clear that Sacre is a person easy to like and good to have around but once again i hope we only need to use him in practice lol.

      1. I have been happy since summer league.

        No surprise on Huerta and Randle for me.

        The only surprise has been the Upshaw cut, which Im sure the TRUE reason for the cut will be revealed soon enough.

  • Yes, Sacre is a little “better” than Upshaw at the moment, but we’re going nowhere this season. Seem it would have been a better investment on the potential upside of Upshaw than the obvious mediocrity of Sacre.

    Oh well. Hopefully Sacre proves me wrong.

    1. I dunno, I think this team will surprise you, come January. Give them some time. You might find yourself happy with this team.

        1. idk who that Dana person is, but shes a Sacre fan, he’s been with us how long, and what have we seen? Whats Jan going to show us, we havent already seen ..

          1. Actually Dana is now suddenly a Sacre fan but to her defense she has called it like it is in the past about Sacre being a liability.

            I guess shes going based on this seasons games but Huertas had allot to do with Sacre doing OK.

            Take Huertas out of the equation and the real Sacre is exposed.

          2. Actually, I’ve watch Sacre move his feet well and play good positional defense. He has even altered shots. But I’m still not a Sacre fan. It’s a false choice to say if you’re down on Upshaw you’re high on Sacre. I’m not thrilled with either one, but looking at it dispassionately I have to admit that between the two of them, Sacre has more to offer right now than Upshaw does. That only makes me a Sacre fan in the minds of simple people who can’t think deeply or with complexity.

            I had high hopes for Upshaw, but he was unable to deliver in time. I don’t get why everyone is so crazy over him. He isn’t showing anything at all. And Sacre has some skills and is a good teammate, which anyone looking it honestly has to admit. I hope he rides the pine the whole season and he never needs to play except in practice.

            Choosing Sacre over Upshaw doesn’t mean I’m a big Sacre fan. The choice is kind of like choosing whether you’d rather have your shin hit with a hammer or your tongue scraped with a potato peeler. Neither one is a very good option.

          3. I like you Dana well said and also having a great locker room guy is very underated it keeps the younger players pump up and encourage its clear that Sacre is a person easy to like and good to have around but once again i hope we only need to use him in practice lol.

      1. I have been happy since summer league.

        No surprise on Huerta and Randle for me.

        The only surprise has been the Upshaw cut, which Im sure the TRUE reason for the cut will be revealed soon enough.

  • Here’s the real; how many times and how many teams passed on and cut Whiteside multiple times? How many teams overseas cut him loose? For every Whiteside there’s hundreds of Malcolm Thomas’s, Benoit Benjamin’s, ETC…

    Danny Green bounced around before finding his way. Trevor Ariza and so on… people need to calm down! Again, not everyone reaches upsides potential.

  • Here’s the real; how many times and how many teams passed on and cut Whiteside multiple times? How many teams overseas cut him loose? For every Whiteside there’s hundreds of Malcolm Thomas’s, Benoit Benjamin’s, ETC…

    Danny Green bounced around before finding his way. Trevor Ariza and so on… people need to calm down! Again, not everyone reaches upsides potential.

  • If Upshaw clears waivers and choose to gain experience in the D-league that could help him improve just like Jordan did without rushing. Although I agree with most here, why keep Sacre when Upshaw could be learning on the fly if placed in that situation. Sacre has hit his ceiling , theres just no where to go with him on a rebuilding team unless they plan to cut him down the road , middle of the season .. Hope FO gets it right this time.

  • If Upshaw clears waivers and choose to gain experience in the D-league that could help him improve just like Jordan did without rushing. Although I agree with most here, why keep Sacre when Upshaw could be learning on the fly if placed in that situation. Sacre has hit his ceiling , theres just no where to go with him on a rebuilding team unless they plan to cut him down the road , middle of the season .. Hope FO gets it right this time.

      1. True but one who is a provenNBA talent. If Sanders is ready to return, multiple teams will be after him.

      1. True but one who is a provenNBA talent. If Sanders is ready to return, multiple teams will be after him.

  • i like upshaw i was pulling for him to make the team, and we all agree that he has more upside than suckrea, but they said that the reason he was cut was not due to talent, which leads me to think it had something to due with either his heart or his drug problems. which in that case I can agree with the decision to cut him. the only thing we can hope for now at this point is that noone else picks him up (which i doubt cause i dont think he showed enough during the summer to change teams mind about him) and then we can sign him to the defenders and work with him. so hopefully this is not the last we seen of him in purple and gold

    1. check out the interview at their website — Scott makes it clear the Lakers expect Upshaw to clear waivers and sign with the D-Fenders

        1. “Clear waivers” just means that no other teams claim him and he becomes a free agent.

          The Lakers can then sign him to the D-Fenders, but he would be free to sign with another team until the Lakers actually offer him a roster spot.

          1. gotcha, thank you for that . . . Upshaw would have to agree to being claimed right? Like with an offer ?

          2. I’m not sure, to be honest. I would imagine there’s some kind of “out” language for both the player and the team in the waiver process buried deep within the recesses of the CBA.

    2. Yeah I just hope for Upshaw’s sake he doesn’t spiral down the drain over this and resort to his past off court behavior. That would truly be a shame.
      I was pulling for him cuz you like to hear of people overcoming their own demons and making something out of themselves when there is obviously some God-given ability.

  • i like upshaw i was pulling for him to make the team, and we all agree that he has more upside than suckrea, but they said that the reason he was cut was not due to talent, which leads me to think it had something to due with either his heart or his drug problems. which in that case I can agree with the decision to cut him. the only thing we can hope for now at this point is that noone else picks him up (which i doubt cause i dont think he showed enough during the summer to change teams mind about him) and then we can sign him to the defenders and work with him. so hopefully this is not the last we seen of him in purple and gold

    1. check out the interview at their website — Scott makes it clear the Lakers expect Upshaw to clear waivers and sign with the D-Fenders

        1. “Clear waivers” just means that no other teams claim him and he becomes a free agent.

          The Lakers can then sign him to the D-Fenders, but he would be free to sign with another team until the Lakers actually offer him a roster spot.

          1. gotcha, thank you for that . . . Upshaw would have to agree to being claimed right? Like with an offer ?

          2. I’m not sure, to be honest. I would imagine there’s some kind of “out” language for both the player and the team in the waiver process buried deep within the recesses of the CBA.

    2. Yeah I just hope for Upshaw’s sake he doesn’t spiral down the drain over this and resort to his past off court behavior. That would truly be a shame.
      I was pulling for him cuz you like to hear of people overcoming their own demons and making something out of themselves when there is obviously some God-given ability.

  • Look, if Black plays decent like he has, Sacre isn’t going to see the light of day anyway…. 28-30 minutes for Hibbert per game, 15-18 for Black, what’s that leave Sacre, 2-6 minutes of garbage time when the game is all but decided.

    1. Thank you. We’re talking third center.

      Taking fouls and waiting for somebody to get hurt is pretty much all they ever do.

      1. Exactly, unless Hibbert get’s in foul trouble, which he very rarely does, because he’s good with the verticality stuff, Sacre is just going to be waiving towels all year for $958 million dollars.

    2. That’s not my concern, I’m confident Black will put together a good season, it’s just injuries. As much as I want us to stay healthy, we haven’t been for the past 3 seasons, so if Hibbert or Black were to go down, that leaves big minutes on Sacre which I’d be crazy scared of.

      I’m ok with the Lakers not bringing in Upshaw if it was due to off the court issues, but if there were no red flags, then I’d really question not bringing him in

  • Look, if Black plays decent like he has, Sacre isn’t going to see the light of day anyway…. 28-30 minutes for Hibbert per game, 15-18 for Black, what’s that leave Sacre, 2-6 minutes of garbage time when the game is all but decided.

    1. Thank you. We’re talking third center.

      Taking fouls and waiting for somebody to get hurt is pretty much all they ever do.

      1. Exactly, unless Hibbert get’s in foul trouble, which he very rarely does, because he’s good with the verticality stuff, Sacre is just going to be waiving towels all year for $958 million dollars.

    2. That’s not my concern, I’m confident Black will put together a good season, it’s just injuries. As much as I want us to stay healthy, we haven’t been for the past 3 seasons, so if Hibbert or Black were to go down, that leaves big minutes on Sacre which I’d be crazy scared of.

      I’m ok with the Lakers not bringing in Upshaw if it was due to off the court issues, but if there were no red flags, then I’d really question not bringing him in

  • Upshaw now must turn down – CAVS; Clippers; Suns, jeez . . the list keeps growing! Choose Lakers, Choose Lakers . . .

    1. i doubt they even want him. we was the only team that wanted him out of the draft. and to me he didnt do enough this summer to change anyones mind about him. ounce you get bounced from two colleges, then go undrafted the get waived by team that picked you up NO ONe is really looking at y ou like yeah we need this guy. everyone is saying that dang there must be something there that he is still dealing with so we dont need him.

  • Upshaw now must turn down – CAVS; Clippers; Suns, jeez . . the list keeps growing! Choose Lakers, Choose Lakers . . .

    1. i doubt they even want him. we was the only team that wanted him out of the draft. and to me he didnt do enough this summer to change anyones mind about him. ounce you get bounced from two colleges, then go undrafted the get waived by team that picked you up NO ONe is really looking at y ou like yeah we need this guy. everyone is saying that dang there must be something there that he is still dealing with so we dont need him.

    1. ah…is that what the “camaraderie” point was all about? I can’t believe nobody followed up on it.

      1. Yup…it actually applies to both Sacre (who loves to hang out with training staff) & MWP (who has close ties to FO & randle).
        Reporters get tunnel vision…only focus on their questions

    2. I think he should make the team, he brings more than Holmes or even Jabari at this point, we have enough guards, and MWP is a better reserve 3 than Holmes.

      1. Holmes shouldn’t be in the discussion.

        Jabari can score. He’s also in his second yr. He had trade value…should have traded him if they are gonna cut him. But as I’ve previously mentioned, jabari is useful when lou/young have to sit out. Especially now with huertas.

        MWP and jabari should stay. We have Kelly, bass, hibbert, black, and randle. We don’t need sacre at all

        1. Big Game went out of his way to praise Holmes’ effort in practice and Scott is an effort guy. I agree with you that they’ll probably go with MWP, but I wouldn’t have a problem if they gave the spot to Holmes and sent him to the d-league for a year.

          If they decide not to re-sign Kelly or Bass doesn’t work out, they’ll have a grinder with some range waiting in the wings.

    1. ah…is that what the “camaraderie” point was all about? I can’t believe nobody followed up on it.

      1. Yup…it actually applies to both Sacre (who loves to hang out with training staff) & MWP (who has close ties to FO & randle).
        Reporters get tunnel vision…only focus on their questions

    2. I think he should make the team, he brings more than Holmes or even Jabari at this point, we have enough guards, and MWP is a better reserve 3 than Holmes.

      1. Holmes shouldn’t be in the discussion.

        Jabari can score. He’s also in his second yr. He had trade value…should have traded him if they are gonna cut him. But as I’ve previously mentioned, jabari is useful when lou/young have to sit out. Especially now with huertas.

        MWP and jabari should stay. We have Kelly, bass, hibbert, black, and randle. We don’t need sacre at all

        1. Big Game went out of his way to praise Holmes’ effort in practice and Scott is an effort guy. I agree with you that they’ll probably go with MWP, but I wouldn’t have a problem if they gave the spot to Holmes and sent him to the d-league for a year.

          If they decide not to re-sign Kelly or Bass doesn’t work out, they’ll have a grinder with some range waiting in the wings.

  • in hind sight its genuis of them to do this. they get to stash him on the defenders for maybe a year while they coach him up then next year bring him back. at which time hibberts contract is up. now if they extend hibbert then we get upshaw back backup center ready, and we 1 dont have to waste a pick on a center and two dont have to pay him that much. smart very smart

  • in hind sight its genuis of them to do this. they get to stash him on the defenders for maybe a year while they coach him up then next year bring him back. at which time hibberts contract is up. now if they extend hibbert then we get upshaw back backup center ready, and we 1 dont have to waste a pick on a center and two dont have to pay him that much. smart very smart

  • Eric Pincus- “I’ve heard execs say they would pay Upshaw to NOT be around their locker room”

  • plus by keeping both kelly and sacre that gives us trade bait before the dead line, especially if kelly keeps playing good.

  • plus by keeping both kelly and sacre that gives us trade bait before the dead line, especially if kelly keeps playing good.

  • Thats not an explanation coach . . . Kobe feels most confident with Sacre / Kelly / Black protecting Rim? REALLY ??? Not !! We are weak, vulnerable while Hibbert on Bench . . So if Hibbert, god forbid, gets injured, were back to last Yr??

      1. What could Mitch want in Sacre / Kelly / Black, again? Allowing that many points in the paint, equals high percentage points too

  • Thats not an explanation coach . . . Kobe feels most confident with Sacre / Kelly / Black protecting Rim? REALLY ??? Not !! We are weak, vulnerable while Hibbert on Bench . . So if Hibbert, god forbid, gets injured, were back to last Yr??

      1. What could Mitch want in Sacre / Kelly / Black, again? Allowing that many points in the paint, equals high percentage points too

  • See how dumb Byron Scott decisions, and you people still support this dumb-ass coach? Now is the time Fire Byron Scott!

  • See how dumb Byron Scott decisions, and you people still support this dumb-ass coach? Now is the time Fire Byron Scott!

  • Every single reporter who knows about Upshaw are holding back on his issues. Very serious stuff they don’t want to report on him.

  • Every single reporter who knows about Upshaw are holding back on his issues. Very serious stuff they don’t want to report on him.

  • So you guys want the Lakers to make the playoffs, but are mad that they’re putting together the best possible roster for the season? Smh make up your mind, roster spots are too valuable to waste just because a guy has potential.

      1. You sound like a kid who’s jealous that another kid is line leader and tells on him because his shoelace is untied. Grow up.

        1. Jealous? Lol. The guy can’t play. It’s nothing personal. I’m sure he’s a nice guy or whatever like people say. He simply doesn’t help the team, which means he’s hurting the team really. Where do you get jealousy from?

          1. But that’s the thing….Upshaw cannot play yet either. We are not talking about big minutes here. Backups and role minutes. You need a guy who can come in and fill minutes on the NBA level while providing something for the team. Upshaw wasn’t there yet.

  • So you guys want the Lakers to make the playoffs, but are mad that they’re putting together the best possible roster for the season? Smh make up your mind, roster spots are too valuable to waste just because a guy has potential.

      1. You sound like a kid who’s jealous that another kid is line leader and tells on him because his shoelace is untied. Grow up.

        1. Jealous? Lol. The guy can’t play. It’s nothing personal. I’m sure he’s a nice guy or whatever like people say. He simply doesn’t help the team, which means he’s hurting the team really. Where do you get jealousy from?

          1. But that’s the thing….Upshaw cannot play yet either. We are not talking about big minutes here. Backups and role minutes. You need a guy who can come in and fill minutes on the NBA level while providing something for the team. Upshaw wasn’t there yet.

  • disapointed day should waive sacre , anthony brown, homles, frazier ll not upshaw deserving the roster spot 15 complete roster ๐Ÿ™

  • disapointed day should waive sacre , anthony brown, homles, frazier ll not upshaw deserving the roster spot 15 complete roster ๐Ÿ™

  • Another stupid move. Damn jim and mitch and eapecially byron. You guys wouldnt know talent if it knocked on the door came in cooked cleaned and had your baby.. sacre should be on macabi haiffa not the lakera.. upshaw looked good.. thanks i love the team but not when saxre is in. I get frustrated just looking at his no talent having cheerleader

      1. You must be a clipper fan if you rather have sacre than upshaw.. laker fan since 88 and besides kwame and morrison hes the worst player weve had in a while.. sacre couldn’t play in the wnba. Were byrin Scott coulsnt coach either.

    1. You guys wouldn’t know talent if it knocked on the door, came in, cooked, cleaned and had your baby.

      That’s an odd comment to make given the talent the squad has and were picked by the FO. Or does Hibbert, Randle, Clarkson, Huertas, Russell, Lou and Bass not count? ‘Specially since the Lakers took a chance and went by their gut on a second rounder in Clarkson.

      1. Youre the dum idiot who doesnt see sacre is lost even on the bench, and so is russell, he looks overwhelmed. Mance will be good but anthony briwn he is bo bo.

  • Another stupid move. Damn jim and mitch and eapecially byron. You guys wouldnt know talent if it knocked on the door came in cooked cleaned and had your baby.. sacre should be on macabi haiffa not the lakera.. upshaw looked good.. thanks i love the team but not when saxre is in. I get frustrated just looking at his no talent having cheerleader

      1. You must be a clipper fan if you rather have sacre than upshaw.. laker fan since 88 and besides kwame and morrison hes the worst player weve had in a while.. sacre couldn’t play in the wnba. Were byrin Scott coulsnt coach either.

    1. You guys wouldn’t know talent if it knocked on the door, came in, cooked, cleaned and had your baby.

      That’s an odd comment to make given the talent the squad has and were picked by the FO. Or does Hibbert, Randle, Clarkson, Huertas, Russell, Lou and Bass not count? ‘Specially since the Lakers took a chance and went by their gut on a second rounder in Clarkson.

      1. Youre the dum idiot who doesnt see sacre is lost even on the bench, and so is russell, he looks overwhelmed. Mance will be good but anthony briwn he is bo bo.

  • BS you are truly an idiot if the reason you cut Upshaw is that because there is a learning curve !!! He is a 20 yr. old rookie just as all the rest of the rooks with physical skills not seen in 25 yrs. , 9’5 reach , 16 inch hands and all upside , I hope you are next BS !!!!

  • BS you are truly an idiot if the reason you cut Upshaw is that because there is a learning curve !!! He is a 20 yr. old rookie just as all the rest of the rooks with physical skills not seen in 25 yrs. , 9’5 reach , 16 inch hands and all upside , I hope you are next BS !!!!

      1. That’s dependant on the organization. On the Spurs, for example, Pop, the GM, and the Owner all work close and decide together what’s good for the team.

      1. That’s dependant on the organization. On the Spurs, for example, Pop, the GM, and the Owner all work close and decide together what’s good for the team.

  • BS is such an incompetent coach sometimes
    I hope some other team claims Upshaw and he becomes a beast

    1. 30 teams passed on him in the draft. Another 29 teams will pass on him when he goes unclaimed on waivers.

    2. I hope so too…but not because BS is incompetent but because I like to see people succeed. The reality is a lot of teams passed on the kid and we gave him a shot. It just did not work out this year. Lot’s of players are going to be cut the next few days. The League is rough like that. Hope the kid gets another chance. Trust that the Front Office knows what they are doing.

  • BS is such an incompetent coach sometimes
    I hope some other team claims Upshaw and he becomes a beast

    1. 30 teams passed on him in the draft. Another 29 teams will pass on him when he goes unclaimed on waivers.

    2. I hope so too…but not because BS is incompetent but because I like to see people succeed. The reality is a lot of teams passed on the kid and we gave him a shot. It just did not work out this year. Lot’s of players are going to be cut the next few days. The League is rough like that. Hope the kid gets another chance. Trust that the Front Office knows what they are doing.

  • They vaguely explained why the kid got cut and the experience part seems kinda like a very lame cover to what the real reason is especially they also mentioned something about his off court issues, whatever it is it must have scared them enough for them to waive him right away,they just haven’t mentioned it coz it might be embarrassing on Upshaws part

  • They vaguely explained why the kid got cut and the experience part seems kinda like a very lame cover to what the real reason is especially they also mentioned something about his off court issues, whatever it is it must have scared them enough for them to waive him right away,they just haven’t mentioned it coz it might be embarrassing on Upshaws part

      1. all those players gave it all, showed all, for our 21 wins. Can we demand more, out of these guys ?

          1. Don’t agree . . . not sure what FO was looking for, protecting rim. But this yr, Lakers will be hurting AGAIN, should Hibbert need a rest – God Help Us

          2. It was obvious Upshaw’s issues trumped the Lakers’ need for a rim protector

          3. Try to think how he list 20+ lbs so quickly between sl and pre season

          4. I wouldn’t even want to insinuate about drug use, that is just hate . . . speaking of losing weight, I lost 30 pounds in three months – just SERIOUSLY reduced my food intake, drank plenty of water thou

          5. Not hate it’s a fact some drugs can make a person loose weight fast like meth and between summer league and pre season is a very short period of time to loose 20+ lbs that fast

        1. At the end of the day they waived the kid for a reason, whatever it is who knows they’re very vague on what the real reason is but it seems it has something to do with his off court issues which is drugs ,it might be too embarrassing on Upshaws part that’s why they haven’t really explained why he got cut

          1. don’t know what can be more embarrassing then being waived (what ever that means?). Don’t think its drugs, I think FO is just unwilling to work with Upshaw – Some team will, very certain of that

          2. Like I said they’re very vague at their explanation and the experience part seems like a crotch to the real reason which they just said his off court issues, which is DRUGS

          3. drugs WAS probably, but if FO is dragging up past, I’m sure there are alot of closets that may be quite embarrassing to Most players, with their skeletons

          4. Dude the league has a yearly mandatory drug test and the kid has a history of drug abuse that’s why he got kicked out on two college programs, he lost 20 lbs so fast between sl and pre season , if it is drugs they probably just don’t wanna embarrass the kid that’s why they are vague on their explanation

      1. all those players gave it all, showed all, for our 21 wins. Can we demand more, out of these guys ?

          1. Don’t agree . . . not sure what FO was looking for, protecting rim. But this yr, Lakers will be hurting AGAIN, should Hibbert need a rest – God Help Us

          2. It was obvious Upshaw’s issues trumped the Lakers’ need for a rim protector

          3. Try to think how he lost 20+ lbs so quickly between sl and pre season

          4. I wouldn’t even want to insinuate about drug use, that is just hate . . . speaking of losing weight, I lost 30 pounds in three months – just SERIOUSLY reduced my food intake, drank plenty of water thou

          5. Not hate it’s a fact some drugs can make a person loose weight fast like meth and between summer league and pre season is a very short period of time to loose 20+ lbs that fast

        1. At the end of the day they waived the kid for a reason, whatever it is who knows they’re very vague on what the real reason is but it seems it has something to do with his off court issues which is drugs ,it might be too embarrassing on Upshaws part that’s why they haven’t really explained why he got cut

          1. don’t know what can be more embarrassing then being waived (what ever that means?). Don’t think its drugs, I think FO is just unwilling to work with Upshaw – Some team will, very certain of that

          2. Like I said they’re very vague at their explanation and the experience part seems like a crotch to the real reason which they just said his off court issues, which is DRUGS

          3. drugs WAS probably, but if FO is dragging up past, I’m sure there are alot of closets that may be quite embarrassing to Most players, with their skeletons

          4. Dude the league has a yearly mandatory drug test and the kid has a history of drug abuse that’s why he got kicked out on two college programs, he lost 20 lbs so fast between sl and pre season , if it is drugs they probably just don’t wanna embarrass the kid that’s why they are vague on their explanation

          1. Nance has looked good. Anthony hasn’t yet but I have high hopes! Kelly surprisingly has looked very good!

          1. Nance has looked good. Anthony hasn’t yet but I have high hopes! Kelly surprisingly has looked very good!

  • Yes smart move 4 the Lakers nows the time to lock sacre in for a 5 year 26 million contract lakers are sharp

    Can we please get a new coach

  • Yes smart move 4 the Lakers nows the time to lock sacre in for a 5 year 26 million contract lakers are sharp

    Can we please get a new coach

  • Vet experience? Sacre!? I hope Scott is used to cuts because the Lakers are going to cut the coaching staff after a season full of Sacre’s “veteran” fouls

    1. I don’t know who you’re quoting but Not what Bresnahan said.

      “often left the training facility after practice without putting in extra work”

      Big difference between leaving practice and leaving after practice.

  • Vet experience? Sacre!? I hope Scott is used to cuts because the Lakers are going to cut the coaching staff after a season full of Sacre’s “veteran” fouls

    1. I don’t know who you’re quoting but Not what Bresnahan said.

      “often left the training facility after practice without putting in extra work”

      Big difference between leaving practice and leaving after practice.

  • Just so Sad, when FO is sooo misguided and allows such poor decisions – Wonder if I can hold my tongue, at my next meeting with either Mitch or JBuss – or will I say, “You are such a stupid person”. Knowing Me, I will end up verbalizing myself:)

  • Just so Sad, when FO is sooo misguided and allows such poor decisions – Wonder if I can hold my tongue, at my next meeting with either Mitch or JBuss – or will I say, “You are such a stupid person”. Knowing Me, I will end up verbalizing myself:)

  • Doubtful other team would pick him up since they mentioned something about his off court issues which is a big red flag already to other teams he might end up with the defenders

    1. Byron mentioning Upshaw past possibly being an issue to other teams . It could be a preventive talk. Scare tactic. They do want Upshaw to clear waiver and go to the defenders. That’s his gamble. Teams may believe and not pick him up. I doubt.

  • Doubtful other team would pick him up since they mentioned something about his off court issues which is a big red flag already to other teams he might end up with the defenders

    1. Byron mentioning Upshaw past possibly being an issue to other teams . It could be a preventive talk. Scare tactic. They do want Upshaw to clear waiver and go to the defenders. That’s his gamble. Teams may believe and not pick him up. I doubt.

    1. I just don’t understand, thought Lakes were on road to re-building the middle on D. Looks pretty much the same, once Hibbert sits, unless Roy can play all games. just smh, wow

    1. I just don’t understand, thought Lakes were on road to re-building the middle on D. Looks pretty much the same, once Hibbert sits, unless Roy can play all games. just smh, wow

    1. How do you know? Did you spot him smoking crack out in the parking lot instead of in the layup line during drills?

    1. How do you know? Did you spot him smoking crack out in the parking lot instead of in the layup line during drills?

  • I actually was having improved hopes for Mitch, in re-building our Middle for Defense – then Mitch goes back to what we had last yr. I’m just so Stunned. Not too certain about winning more then 21 games now, without adequate rim protection, when Hibbert sits. I’m TRYING, i’m trying to get over it . . . Now it is just wait and see if Robert Upshaw ends up with Defenders – then my hopes of going beyond 21 wins will be revived once again

    1. I know, right? They admit they had a problem keeping teams out of the paint so they got Hibbert. None of the bigs from last year did the job and 2 of them have spots on the team. I, mean do we only need 1 shot blocker? problem solved? Hibbert gets hurt, where is the defense gonna be at?

      1. But….watching the game last night it looked clear (to me at least) that Upshaw just isn’t ready. Flashes of what could be….but still so raw. He needs time to develop and this just isn’t the spot for him right now.

  • I actually was having improved hopes for Mitch, in re-building our Middle for Defense – then Mitch goes back to what we had last yr. I’m just so Stunned. Not too certain about winning more then 21 games now, without adequate rim protection, when Hibbert sits. I’m TRYING, i’m trying to get over it . . . Now it is just wait and see if Robert Upshaw ends up with Defenders – then my hopes of going beyond 21 wins will be revived once again

    1. I know, right? They admit they had a problem keeping teams out of the paint so they got Hibbert. None of the bigs from last year did the job and 2 of them have spots on the team. I, mean do we only need 1 shot blocker? problem solved? Hibbert gets hurt, where is the defense gonna be at?

      1. But….watching the game last night it looked clear (to me at least) that Upshaw just isn’t ready. Flashes of what could be….but still so raw. He needs time to develop and this just isn’t the spot for him right now.

  • all yall typing with your emotions. I like upshaw and wanted him to make the team. HE DIDNT BECAUSE OF OFF COURT ISSUES. damn i wish some of yall would read the whole thing. FO office basically said in so many words that he is better than sacre but because of these issues he was cut. now when they sign him to a GUARANTEED contract im sure they had some stipulations that went along with that, apparently upshaw didn’t hold up his end of the bargain. noone is to blame here but upshaw himself not the FO. lossen up your panties with all this crying. it really didnt matter which one made the 3rd string center (3RD FREAKING STRING) THEY WASNT GETTING ANY PLAYING TIME ANYWAYS) atleast in the DL upshaw we get better for next year.

    1. Not sure if emotions were involved . . . just based on what I was shown, raw talent. I had already seen the other three last year. I’m really concerned should Hibbert need time away.

  • all yall typing with your emotions. I like upshaw and wanted him to make the team. HE DIDNT BECAUSE OF OFF COURT ISSUES. damn i wish some of yall would read the whole thing. FO office basically said in so many words that he is better than sacre but because of these issues he was cut. now when they sign him to a GUARANTEED contract im sure they had some stipulations that went along with that, apparently upshaw didn’t hold up his end of the bargain. noone is to blame here but upshaw himself not the FO. lossen up your panties with all this crying. it really didnt matter which one made the 3rd string center (3RD FREAKING STRING) THEY WASNT GETTING ANY PLAYING TIME ANYWAYS) atleast in the DL upshaw we get better for next year.

    1. Not sure if emotions were involved . . . just based on what I was shown, raw talent. I had already seen the other three last year. I’m really concerned should Hibbert need time away.

  • I think it’s apparent when Scott said team comraderie was an issue, they didn’t like him. You have to admit that Upshaw gave off that “crackhead” vibe. He’s a project and one that needs babysitting, we have too many young players to spend time and energy on him apparently. With all of sacres shortcomings he seems like a great dude…that’s apparently enough in the NBA to be a 3rd string center on a low end team.

  • I think it’s apparent when Scott said team comraderie was an issue, they didn’t like him. You have to admit that Upshaw gave off that “crackhead” vibe. He’s a project and one that needs babysitting, we have too many young players to spend time and energy on him apparently. With all of sacres shortcomings he seems like a great dude…that’s apparently enough in the NBA to be a 3rd string center on a low end team.

  • Theres no excuse. Lakers are now a dismal franchise. I was born a lakers fan. Kobe #8 poster on my wall still. Im now embarassed at how the FO are handling things smh. Even Towns has bad nights with more PT but they cut this guy smh

  • Theres no excuse. Lakers are now a dismal franchise. I was born a lakers fan. Kobe #8 poster on my wall still. Im now embarassed at how the FO are handling things smh. Even Towns has bad nights with more PT but they cut this guy smh

  • All this does, is show that in order to be a member of the greatest basketball franchise in the world for 4 years, you just have to be 7 feet tall and waive a towel over your head like a spastic.

  • All this does, is show that in order to be a member of the greatest basketball franchise in the world for 4 years, you just have to be 7 feet tall and waive a towel over your head like a spastic.

  • From Robert Upshaw’s point of view, I can empathize and see that Big Upshaw, if any thing managed to showcase his skills to entire NBA. Thats whats really scary to me, that Upshaw may not last waiting in waivers or D League, without being lured to another team. Lakers may lose again . . .

  • From Robert Upshaw’s point of view, I can empathize and see that Big Upshaw, if any thing managed to showcase his skills to entire NBA. Thats whats really scary to me, that Upshaw may not last waiting in waivers or D League, without being lured to another team. Lakers may lose again . . .

  • I think it was in their plans all along for him to go to the d league which would make a lot of sense because he needs a lot of work

  • I think it was in their plans all along for him to go to the d league which would make a lot of sense because he needs a lot of work

  • Either way, Buss Family, Mitch are still getting their MILLIONS – whether Lakers win 21 games or make the playoffs. They just keep filling up the seats, and their pockets – got to love that model. win win for Buss and Mitch. Poor Laker Fans are at their mercy, at the end of the day

    1. what are you implying that upshaw would make them a playoff team? he didnt hold that much weight on the roster, and the team is wayy better then 21 wins.

  • Either way, Buss Family, Mitch are still getting their MILLIONS – whether Lakers win 21 games or make the playoffs. They just keep filling up the seats, and their pockets – got to love that model. win win for Buss and Mitch. Poor Laker Fans are at their mercy, at the end of the day