Byron Scott Didn’t Consider Playing D’Angelo Russell Late Against Heat

Los Angeles Lakers head coach Byron Scott has been criticized quite a bit as of late for his usage of rookie point guard D’Angelo Russell. That criticism is bound to kick into high gear once again after the loss to the Miami Heat on Tuesday night with Russell not playing a minute in the fourth quarter.

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After the loss to the Heat, Coach Scott talked about not playing Russell in the fourth on TWCSportsNet. Scott said Russell didn’t get back in the game because Miami’s lead was too big, via Lakers Nation reporter Serena Winters:

Recently, Scott has said that he values winning over developing the young players on the squad. Although the Lakers are clearly rebuilding, Scott doesn’t want to sacrifice a chance to win in order to test players like Russell late in games. Scott’s philosophy has left many confused about his intentions with Russell. Not playing the rookie in garbage time is a questionable move to say the least and at times it seems to leave the rookie wondering where he fits on this team. Russell has been making progress with every passing game. The 19-year-old may not be as far along as fellow rookies like Jahlil Okafor or Karl-Anthony Towns, but it seems difficult for him to get into a rhythm with no telling when he’ll be back on the floor once he initially heads to the bench. Along with Kobe Bryant’s day-to-day status, Russell’s minutes late in games and the development of the young players on the squad will continue to be a hot topic of discussion. The Lakers will be back in action tomorrow night against the Orlando Magic at the Amway Center before heading to Texas for a Friday night showdown with the Dallas Mavericks.

cant fire another coach it won’t look good, just to get rid of scott as a coach i would promote him to something else

  1. Just because it does not look good? He has to be fired. The FO cannot continue to gloss over their mistakes. They have to own up to their mistakes, fire Scott, get rid of dead weight like Kelly, Sacre and move on

  • cant fire another coach it won’t look good, just to get rid of scott as a coach i would promote him to something else

    1. Just because it does not look good? He has to be fired. The FO cannot continue to gloss over their mistakes. They have to own up to their mistakes, fire Scott, get rid of dead weight like Kelly, Sacre and move on

  • the lakers will never be good again garbage coach garbage front office.. I can’t even enjoy them when it doesn’t matter if they win or lose because they don’t know how to develop anyone. Its a joke towns okafor mudiay all get to play and get better while russell rides the bench… clarkson plays worse than russell but he gets to play through it while russell never comes back in… whatever man

  • the lakers will never be good again garbage coach garbage front office.. I can’t even enjoy them when it doesn’t matter if they win or lose because they don’t know how to develop anyone. Its a joke towns okafor mudiay all get to play and get better while russell rides the bench… clarkson plays worse than russell but he gets to play through it while russell never comes back in… whatever man

    1. I agree that Clarkson did not look good at all yesterday but would still remain on the floor!

      Plus, why not unleash Russel so he can express his talent?!

      Unless the plan is to get yet another top pick, I can’t understand what we’re doing. I now hope that BS is gone this summer.

  • Russell needs the PT to get more experience and keep learning, no matter how the game is going, whether they’re leading or falling behind. He needs PT to get a better feeling of the pace and rhythm of the NBA games. COME ON BYRON!!!

  • Russell needs the PT to get more experience and keep learning, no matter how the game is going, whether they’re leading or falling behind. He needs PT to get a better feeling of the pace and rhythm of the NBA games. COME ON BYRON!!!

  • BS is wrong to play protective daddy here. I think he has overdone it. If the kid is a bust, let it be known ASAP so we can move on!!!!!!

  • BS is wrong to play protective daddy here. I think he has overdone it. If the kid is a bust, let it be known ASAP so we can move on!!!!!!

    1. The kid was never expected to be a top pick. Now if the FO saw great potential in him (Okafor was the n°1 choice here if I recall well), they should give him as much PT as possible. At first, I wanted him to come off th bench but since this team is going nowhere no matter what for unit we use and this for the third consecutive year, I suggest we develop the kids (aside from Russel’s struggles, let me remind you that Randle’s shooting ability is still a work in progress…).

    2. He coached Kyrie and Chris Paul so you have to trust his judgment for now but I do think it’s odd that he doesn’t play a starter till the 4th quarter is more than half over and the game is out of hand.

  • Byron’s talking out of so many sides of his mouth that he’s not longer making any sense. D’antoni got more out of his Lakers team and we all know how little that was. Bummer!!

    1. damn, when you said d’antoni i actually got this thought of him coaching this team…and he probably would be doing a better job than BS. something i thought i would never think

      1. We’d have at least two more wins if MDA was coaching this group. 3-4 sounds decent right now if you ask me.

      2. The problem with D’antoni is that he doesn’t teach fundamentals and every player that thrives under his system sucks when they get anywhere else.

        While I agree that he’s revolutionized modern basketball, teaching guys to shoot the ball whenever they are open doesn’t really make them better players. It gives them the confidence to be shooters, and is exciting to watch, but it’s not really good for development.

  • Byron’s talking out of so many sides of his mouth that he’s not longer making any sense. D’antoni got more out of his Lakers team and we all know how little that was. Bummer!!

    1. damn, when you said d’antoni i actually got this thought of him coaching this team…and he probably would be doing a better job than BS. something i thought i would never think

      1. We’d have at least two more wins if MDA was coaching this group. 3-4 sounds decent right now if you ask me.

        1. Stop it…..No Defense D’Atoni?….Get real….You’re all over the place….Next it’ll be somebody else..

          1. And Byron is known for his defense?

            He talked about it, but I don’t see it.
            And haven’t taken any blame for losses yet…this last 2 seasons.

      2. The problem with D’antoni is that he doesn’t teach fundamentals and every player that thrives under his system sucks when they get anywhere else.

        While I agree that he’s revolutionized modern basketball, teaching guys to shoot the ball whenever they are open doesn’t really make them better players. It gives them the confidence to be shooters, and is exciting to watch, but it’s not really good for development.

  • Russell is the 2nd pick, he needs to play period! Of the other top picks, are any of them riding the pine as much as Russell? I can see with each game he is getting it & the game is slowing down for him. He made some really nice passes tonight, but the other players were not ready for them so it resulted in turnovers. The only way for the other players to get used to Russell & his passing is for him to be in the game. I hate to say this, but Scott needs to go. It took him what? 5 games until he realized the Kelly/Bass duo wasn’t working? And I do not like Williams as the pg when Russell sits. How long until Scott figures that out? Truth be told if the Lakers were not such a bad team would Kelly be on a NBA roster? I think not.

  • Russell is the 2nd pick, he needs to play period! Of the other top picks, are any of them riding the pine as much as Russell? I can see with each game he is getting it & the game is slowing down for him. He made some really nice passes tonight, but the other players were not ready for them so it resulted in turnovers. The only way for the other players to get used to Russell & his passing is for him to be in the game. I hate to say this, but Scott needs to go. It took him what? 5 games until he realized the Kelly/Bass duo wasn’t working? And I do not like Williams as the pg when Russell sits. How long until Scott figures that out? Truth be told if the Lakers were not such a bad team would Kelly be on a NBA roster? I think not.

    1. yes! williams should only be backup SG. huertas as backup PG. nick as backup SF or SG. and thats that. Having williams (at PG) and young on court at the same time results in ZERO ball-movement.

      such obvious things that byron is not seeing. he is doing a terrible job in EVERY aspect!

      1. I really don’t like them 2 on the court together. You would think they could break down a defense and get open, but Nick Young shoots the ball within 1 second of touching it no matter where he is, and Lou just gets stuck having to drive through 2 players when he gets Nick’s rebound with 5 seconds left on the clock.

    2. He’s playing the 4th most minutes of all rookies. It just seems like he plays less because he is invisible when he is on the court

    3. Russell is averaging more minutes that Porzingis. Just because you are the 2nd pick, you should still earn your minutes. Russell hasn’t shown that he has earned more than 23-24 minutes per game if that.

    1. Russell needs to contribute more.
      He needs to score more.

      Having a starter play 30 minutes score 6 points, and get 2 assists is a liability to ANY team. Until he finds atleast 12 points and 3 assists in 30 minutes, he’s going to be a bench guy and will never be on the floor during crunch time.

      The team will never win playing 4-on-5 basketball. Russell needs to step up.

      1. But Russell needs more minutes in order to be able to contribute more. 21 minutes aren’t gonna do it.

        1. Don’t mind this guy. His whole Russell rant is sheer buffoonery. Russell had better numbers than he stated in only 21 minutes.

          1. Russell scored 4 points tonight in 21 minutes.
            That’s fact.

            With basic math, that’s only 6 points if he had played a full 30.

            No team wins when ANY starter only contributes 6 points. Average bench guys get 6 points in 18 minutes…..

          2. LAWD help this child, as his mind is not right.

            There’s more to the game than just scoring, and you said Russell only had 2 assists? Russell had 4 points, 4 rebounds, 4 assists, 1 steal and two turnovers in those 21 minutes. Those two turnovers were really Clarkson’s fault in part. Dragic was held in check when Russell was on the court. Furthermore, Russell checked out at 4:52 in the third quarter with the score 63-60 Miami. With Russell on the bench the Heat went off on that run to put the game out of reach as Russell never saw the court again. Huertas was awful and so was Williams. Scott is completely blowing this when it comes to PT for Russell.

    1. Russell needs to contribute more.
      He needs to score more.

      Having a starter play 30 minutes score 6 points, and get 2 assists is a liability to ANY team. Until he finds atleast 12 points and 3 assists in 30 minutes, he’s going to be a bench guy and will never be on the floor during crunch time.

      The team will never win playing 4-on-5 basketball. Russell needs to step up.

      1. But Russell needs more minutes in order to be able to contribute more. 21 minutes aren’t gonna do it.

        1. Don’t mind this guy. His whole Russell rant is sheer buffoonery. Russell had better numbers than he stated in only 21 minutes.

          1. Russell scored 4 points tonight in 21 minutes.
            That’s fact.

            With basic math, that’s only 6 points if he had played a full 30.

            No team wins when ANY starter only contributes 6 points. Average bench guys get 6 points in 18 minutes…..

          2. LAWD help this child, as his mind is not right.

            There’s more to the game than just scoring, and you said Russell only had 2 assists? Russell had 4 points, 4 rebounds, 4 assists, 1 steal and two turnovers in those 21 minutes. Those two turnovers were really Clarkson’s fault in part. Dragic was held in check when Russell was on the court. Furthermore, Russell checked out at 4:52 in the third quarter with the score 63-60 Miami. With Russell on the bench the Heat went off on that run to put the game out of reach as Russell never saw the court again. Huertas was awful and so was Williams. Scott is completely blowing this when it comes to PT for Russell.

          3. Naw those TO was Russel fault the ball didn’t pop up right off the bounce but it was with good intent…russel get his minutes I like to see Anthony Brown and finally seeing black and Nance by default is good, Randle really struggles with length and JC right now is a volume scorer right now

      1. Numbers say if Russell played Jahlil Okafor minutes he’d avg:
        14.8ppg, 1.7stls, 6.4ast, 4.6rbs
        Not bad for 19yr old pg

          1. No he’s not
            Would you have preferred Okafor? Because he wouldn’t have helped defensively if that’s what you’re getting at
            Offense is not our problem
            Look at Marc gasoline he’s arguably a top 3 center in the west and look at how the grizzlies are doing right now
            It’s a pg conference and D’lo is still progressing each game open your eyes and see that BS is holding him back right now. The nuggets traded Ty Lawson to let Mudiay run the ball and Okafor is getting good numbers on a bad team
            as far as Towns everyone knew he was gonna beast
            Stop making us fans look bad the draft is over and Russell is a laker get used to it he’s gonna be fine soon

          2. The excuse is Okafor’s defense but Russell for damn sure won’t be mistaken for Gary Payton either.

          3. he doesn’t have to be no pg in the west is Gary Payton but as long as he’s capable he has 7 steals in the last 3 games alone
            Okafor wouldn’t have helped our defensive woes either
            And Russell most likely won’t either
            Point is everyone’s putting the blame on Russell as if it’s his fault we’ve been losing so much without seeing all these circumstances
            But oh well that’s how some lakers fans are

          4. Russell will be a lot better than you think.
            He’s playing pretty good despite his box score.

            He’s learning that the NBA is a lot tougher than he thought and that Lakers fans are spoiled because we expect high standards.

            He’s gonna take a year…. just like the scouting reports said.

      1. Numbers say if Russell played Jahlil Okafor minutes he’d avg:
        14.8ppg, 1.7stls, 6.4ast, 4.6rbs
        Not bad for 19yr old pg

          1. No he’s not
            Would you have preferred Okafor? Because he wouldn’t have helped defensively if that’s what you’re getting at
            Offense is not our problem
            Look at Marc gasol he’s arguably a top 3 center in the west and look at how the grizzlies are doing right now
            It’s a pg conference and D’lo is still progressing each game open your eyes and see that BS is holding him back right now. The nuggets traded Ty Lawson to let Mudiay run the ball and Okafor is getting good numbers on a bad team
            as far as Towns everyone knew he was gonna beast
            Stop making us fans look bad the draft is over and Russell is a laker get used to it he’s gonna be fine soon

          2. The excuse is Okafor’s defense but Russell for damn sure won’t be mistaken for Gary Payton either.

          3. he doesn’t have to be no pg in the west is Gary Payton but as long as he’s capable he has 7 steals in the last 3 games alone
            Okafor wouldn’t have helped our defensive woes either
            And Russell most likely won’t either
            Point is everyone’s putting the blame on Russell as if it’s his fault we’ve been losing so much without seeing all these circumstances
            But oh well that’s how some lakers fans are

          4. Russell will be a lot better than you think.
            He’s playing pretty good despite his box score.

            He’s learning that the NBA is a lot tougher than he thought and that Lakers fans are spoiled because we expect high standards.

            He’s gonna take a year…. just like the scouting reports said.

          5. lol 4 games into the season… moronic Lakers fans are why the FO is cracking under the pressure. We need a Zen master that can block out the loud idiots.

  • this is what happens when the team and the coach aren’t on the same page. The Lakers want to have a young core developed within the next few years, but Byron is trying to win and grab the 8th seed so he plays the veterans more than the young dudes. We need a coach that understands that developing the young guys is the priority right now.

  • this is what happens when the team and the coach aren’t on the same page. The Lakers want to have a young core developed within the next few years, but Byron is trying to win and grab the 8th seed so he plays the veterans more than the young dudes. We need a coach that understands that developing the young guys is the priority right now.

  • I’ll be happy if Russell can average anything as close as MCW produced in his rookie season, But, I think that is so far from reality.

  • I’ll be happy if Russell can average anything as close as MCW produced in his rookie season, But, I think that is so far from reality.

      1. Well if he does end up being a bust, Byron will probably get fired before it’s official and another coach will be hired before he goes to the D league, and after that Jim Buss is finally done. So it wouldn’t be the worst thing in the world if he busts out but honestly I don’t see him being a bust. He’s only 19 and is dealing with pressure from frothing laker’s fans, getting his body in shape, and learning the game. He’s looked better every game too.

  • Byron needs to get his head out his a**… Russell should have be in the game. No excuse to leave him sitting on the bench from the middle of the third quarter on. I understand this isn’t the best situation but this is NOT making the playoffs. Let the trio grow together.

      1. Not at all. Have u watched him play? He has the intangibles. He needs to play more minutes. He’s not going to be a star overnight. But he NEEDS to play.

          1. i wasn’t talking about you i was talking about lakeshow, I’m agreeing with you but you’re right it didn’t sound that way my bad

          2. Got it. Sorry for the confusion. Russell needs to play. He has the skills. Clarkson couldn’t catch half of his great passes… That takes chemistry. Which means more time.

          3. yup i think this lakeshow guy and many other fans were expecting a magic like rookie season

          4. I expected us to draft someone who’s ready for this level at #2. I’m ready to trade this bust first chance we get.

          5. if thats how you feel cool, I’m more than convinced that all russell needs is time and he will be something special and you will remember all the smack you said about him. look at ny fans they booed porzingis and now they are on his nuts

          6. Yeah and I booed when our idiotic management drafted Russell and look at him now lol

          7. No we are just expecting a Pozingis like rookie season. Hey 2nd pick … who can u blame.

      2. He’s far from being a bust, you’re just another Jahlil “5 rebounds per game soon to get injured” Okafor.

  • Byron needs to get his head out his a**… Russell should have be in the game. No excuse to leave him sitting on the bench from the middle of the third quarter on. I understand this isn’t the best situation but this is NOT making the playoffs. Let the trio grow together.

      1. Not at all. Have u watched him play? He has the intangibles. He needs to play more minutes. He’s not going to be a star overnight. But he NEEDS to play.

          1. i wasn’t talking about you i was talking about lakeshow, I’m agreeing with you but you’re right it didn’t sound that way my bad

          2. Got it. Sorry for the confusion. Russell needs to play. He has the skills. Clarkson couldn’t catch half of his great passes… That takes chemistry. Which means more time.

          3. yup i think this lakeshow guy and many other fans were expecting a magic like rookie season

          4. I expected us to draft someone who’s ready for this level at #2. I’m ready to trade this bust first chance we get.

          5. if thats how you feel cool, I’m more than convinced that all russell needs is time and he will be something special and you will remember all the smack you said about him. look at ny fans they booed porzingis and now they are on his nuts

          6. Yeah and I booed when our idiotic management drafted Russell and look at him now lol

          7. Exactly. Who drafts a project as the 2nd overall pick in a talented drafted with many other who could have been drafted 2nd overall.

          8. No we are just expecting a Pozingis like rookie season. Hey 2nd pick … who can u blame.

        1. A PG with no First Step, terrible defense, no explosion at the rim and a poor free throw rate. What ‘intangible’ do you see

      2. He’s far from being a bust, you’re just another Jahlil “5 rebounds per game soon to get injured” Okafor.

    1. agree with you 100 percent. Scott is NOT the coach 4 dis TEAM. right now he’s making it all mental 4 Russell instead of just playing basketball

    1. we cant just fire another coach though its not going to look good to other coaches and players

        1. get off my nuts groupie, if you really want to talk $#!t we can meet somewhere I’m in LA by griffith park

          1. Dont shoot!! My hands are up!!! Nothing scare me more than an old xxxx asking to see you in the park!!! Sorry, no way I am meeting you there. No. LOL

          2. I don’t spend a lot of time on this website but everytime I get in here it’s always FULL of people picking up fights just because, they’re not even fighting because of basketball reasons, they simply start fights, not sure if they’re narcissistic or if they’re kids that get bullied at school everyday.

    1. we cant just fire another coach though its not going to look good to other coaches and players

        1. get off my nuts groupie, if you really want to talk $#!t we can meet somewhere I’m in LA by griffith park

          1. Dont shoot!! My hands are up!!! Nothing scare me more than an old xxxx asking to see you in the park!!! Sorry, no way I am meeting you there. No. LOL

          2. I don’t spend a lot of time on this website but everytime I get in here it’s always FULL of people picking up fights just because, they’re not even fighting because of basketball reasons, they simply start fights, not sure if they’re narcissistic or if they’re kids that get bullied at school everyday.

  • Russell has potential and he HAS been making strides. He needs to play more. Huertas should not be playing sadly. THIS TEAM IS NOT MAKING THE PLAYOFFS. Let’s develop the trio… Very frustrated fan

    1. He’s playing 25 minutes per game which is more than most rookies. That’s enough playing time to impact a game. He’s just not getting the job done. If he played better, he’d get a few more minutes.

      1. Look I mean its tough when all are players run is isolation sets. Russell needs the ball and he needs to create. There needs to be ball movement. Clarkson needs to learn how to slash. It will take time. But it takes a coach who knows what he’s doing. Scott acts like he’s Pat Riley. He’s absolutely clueless.

      2. He’s actually playing pretty good. He’s not making a lot of mistakes and overall he’s not a horrible player. But it’s the lack of scoring and overall contribution that’s killing the team and him.

  • Russell has potential and he HAS been making strides. He needs to play more. Huertas should not be playing sadly. THIS TEAM IS NOT MAKING THE PLAYOFFS. Let’s develop the trio… Very frustrated fan

    1. He’s playing 25 minutes per game which is more than most rookies. That’s enough playing time to impact a game. He’s just not getting the job done. If he played better, he’d get a few more minutes.

      1. Look I mean its tough when all are players run is isolation sets. Russell needs the ball and he needs to create. There needs to be ball movement. Clarkson needs to learn how to slash. It will take time. But it takes a coach who knows what he’s doing. Scott acts like he’s Pat Riley. He’s absolutely clueless.

      2. He’s actually playing pretty good. He’s not making a lot of mistakes and overall he’s not a horrible player. But it’s the lack of scoring and overall contribution that’s killing the team and him.

  • Look on the bright side Russell, you are getting less minutes than both Kobe and Lou Williams but you are still shooting better than either of them. Keep your head up, you’re only 19, those guys are veterans and are playing like trash. You just have to wait out this “coach”. I’m pretty sure it won’t be long.

    1. Yeah, clowns like you were claiming Kobe was making him play bad. Now the blame shifts to Scott right?

      1. No I said Kobe was making the team play bad, which in some ways was proven tonight, Lakers team high in both assists and 3 point shooting. Byron has been keeping DLo down every game, that narrative has not changed. It’s also not just DLo, it’s all the young guys, Randle and A Brown too, even Clarkson. What is Byron’s fascination with Lou Williams? The guy is shooting 18 percent from deep. It’s ridiculous.

        1. Williams and Swaggy can’t even play relaxed and patient because by the time they check in the game, they’re always trailing by double digits. Maybe they should start and see what they do then.

        2. When Kobe plays, the team scores 100+ points.
          When he doesn’t it scores 88.

          To me, it seems like Kobe makes the team better. Or atleast helps hide the fact that this is a team that would only score 88 points without him (and still suck).

    2. How can you compare shooting averages when one guy ends with 17 points and the other gets 4.

      If Scott let Russell play 30 minutes he’d have a whopping 6 points.

      Russell is playing like trash and barely a bench grade player, let alone a starter.

  • Look on the bright side Russell, you are getting less minutes than both Kobe and Lou Williams but you are still shooting better than either of them. Keep your head up, you’re only 19, those guys are veterans and are playing like trash. You just have to wait out this “coach”. I’m pretty sure it won’t be long.

      1. Did you get banned bpowell and have to make a new account? Awww i wonder how long this one lasts. Keep on russell hating im sure someone will listen to you eventually… right…? Im just gonna sit back and watch him get better and better while u continue to look more and more stupid.

    1. Yeah, clowns like you were claiming Kobe was making him play bad. Now the blame shifts to Scott right?

      1. No I said Kobe was making the team play bad, which in some ways was proven tonight, Lakers team high in both assists and 3 point shooting. Byron has been keeping DLo down every game, that narrative has not changed. It’s also not just DLo, it’s all the young guys, Randle and A Brown too, even Clarkson. What is Byron’s fascination with Lou Williams? The guy is shooting 18 percent from deep. It’s ridiculous.

        1. Williams and Swaggy can’t even play relaxed and patient because by the time they check in the game, they’re always trailing by double digits. Maybe they should start and see what they do then.

          1. Wrong!!!!!! U just make this stuff up cuz u think it sounds like it supports your crazy way of thinking huh?

        2. When Kobe plays, the team scores 100+ points.
          When he doesn’t it scores 88.

          To me, it seems like Kobe makes the team better. Or atleast helps hide the fact that this is a team that would only score 88 points without him (and still suck).

          1. The team scored more efficiently tonight and had more assists than they have had all season. The only reason the total was so low was because they had less offensive possessions due to turnovers and most importantly poor rebounding. They shot 50 percent from down town, no way they do that with Kobe playing.

          2. You’re wasting your breath trying to explain better overall TEAM efficiency to a Kobe first Laker fan.

    2. How can you compare shooting averages when one guy ends with 17 points and the other gets 4.

      If Scott let Russell play 30 minutes he’d have a whopping 6 points.

      Russell is playing like trash and barely a bench grade player, let alone a starter.

      1. The sooner Russell gets that getting Free Throws is a huge part of success of any good player, the sooner he’s going to get out of the dog house.

      2. I think the point is that, as bad as Russell has played the vets haven’t been that much better.

    3. Shooting % is an overrated stat. For example a guy can go 5-10 on 2pters and give you 10 points, shooting 50%. Another guy can go 4-10 on 3pters and give you 12 pts, shooting 40%. Bet you want the guy who is shooting 50% because he is more “efficient” but the guy shooting 40% is actually getting you more points in the same number of shots. Look at PPG against FGA. Russell is averaging less than a point per FGA. Kobe and Lou are averaging higher points per FGA because they make more 3s and get to the line.

  • Right now we have been playing close for most the quarters in the last two games with Russell in there; might as well keep Russell in there and see how far we go with him. We are not even going to be close to the playoffs anyways

      1. Cant you see what’s happening? BS is protecting the KID. He doesnt want to expose him when he’s not ready. BS is a lousy coach but he looks after his fav players.

  • Right now we have been playing close for most the quarters in the last two games with Russell in there; might as well keep Russell in there and see how far we go with him. We are not even going to be close to the playoffs anyways

      1. Cant you see what’s happening? BS is protecting the KID. He doesnt want to expose him when he’s not ready. BS is a lousy coach but he looks after his fav players.

        1. Nice you see that as well… teams just play around with lakers and when it gets serious they pour it on, in the second half they really targeting him by going at him with whomever he is gaurding

  • Lakers played a great 1st half, the 2nd half tonight though was one of the worst I’ve ever seen. Countless layups, players like Randle and Lou Williams playing 0 defense at times

    1. Randle shows great defense at times but he’s a little lazy on that end. Lou Williams is just a weak defender who can get an occasional steal

  • who has had a better season: Mudiay or Russell? Mudiay worse FG %, 5 TO’s a game, and a less PER (8 vs 12), less steals. Mudiay has slightly more points, assists, and slightly more rebounds with a higher usage percentage and 30 minutes every night. Who you liking?

    1. Russell so far. Both have a long ways to go, but Russell is making better decisions and shooting better

        1. “who’s had a better season” sounds funny 2 weeks into the season but to me theyre both off to a slow start

    2. Mudiay would be my guess. His game has warts (like Randle) but you see the star in him (like Randle).

    3. Russell..
      Check out the draft express video (on youtube) comparing the two when they played head to head.

      They pretty much called out Mudiay.

  • Lakers played a great 1st half, the 2nd half tonight though was one of the worst I’ve ever seen. Countless layups, players like Randle and Lou Williams playing 0 defense at times

    1. Randle shows great defense at times but he’s a little lazy on that end. Lou Williams is just a weak defender who can get an occasional steal

  • who has had a better season: Mudiay or Russell? Mudiay worse FG %, 5 TO’s a game, and a less PER (8 vs 12), less steals. Mudiay has slightly more points, assists, and slightly more rebounds with a higher usage percentage and 30 minutes every night. Who you liking?

    1. Russell so far. Both have a long ways to go, but Russell is making better decisions and shooting better

        1. “who’s had a better season” sounds funny 2 weeks into the season but to me theyre both off to a slow start

    2. Mudiay would be my guess. His game has warts (like Randle) but you see the star in him (like Randle).

    3. Russell..
      Check out the draft express video (on youtube) comparing the two when they played head to head.

      They pretty much called out Mudiay.

    4. lets see one is running a team where teams actually scout and plan against and the other is hidden on the steam that teams don’t have to account for… to early for this comparison

  • Starting lineup should be Russell, Kobe, Young, Randle, Hibbert

    Bench: Clarkson, Lou, Metta, Nance, Black

  • Starting lineup should be Russell, Kobe, Young, Randle, Hibbert

    Bench: Clarkson, Lou, Metta, Nance, Black

    1. they’re saying the samething about hornets coach and they said the same thing about houston’s coach, were they right about all of them?

    1. they’re saying the samething about hornets coach and they said the same thing about houston’s coach, were they right about all of them?

      1. actually, no…. lin fans & hornets fans are mesh well right now

        clifford is a real coach… he gets all the respect include lin fans

    2. Lin fans are never right. Not even when they claim the grass is green. Even if they say Scott sucks, which is an absolute truth, they – are – NEVER – right! 😀

  • We should have picked Okafor – there is no argument of who is the better player – Huertas posted the same line as Russell tonight

    1. The Lakers lost tonight because they got absolutely killed on the glass. Do you think Okafor’s 5 rebounds a game would cut it?

        1. It’s not surprising though, he has never been known as a rebounder. Remember in the playoffs he had that zero rebound game.

          1. He’s focused on protecting the paint, and as such is *kinda* out of position to get easy rebounds. Either you jump to stop the shot, or you jump to grab the rebound.

            Imagine how effective Hibbert would be if he were playing beside Kevin Love?

        2. Can’t rebound my himself. He is the only one defending the paint as well. He is not Wilt he is Roy.

    2. Yeah because Okafor and his 5 rebounds per game has made such an impact in Philadelphia…lmao

    3. with okafor what you see is what you get he’s a good fundamentally offensive player, we seen it at duke and we’re seeing it now but this is his ceiling. as for russell, he’s building confidence and getting mentally and physically stronger, when he reaches his potential he will break defenses down with finnese dribbling, high IQ passing, and lil quick jumpers not to mention his 3 point ability. we made the right choice

      1. So your calling the ceiling of a 19 year old after 7 games? Can’t we wait till after the ASB for that lol.

          1. So your saying a 19 year has no development left to make? He’d be the first one in history.

          2. no I’m saying he’s already pretty much there he doesn’t need much work he’s pretty close to “nba ready” is he not?

          3. NBA ready just means people can see how they will make an immediate impact not to the completeness of their game. You can be unstoppable in the post but still have a ton of areas to improve at 19.

            Okafor just has a pretty complete post move repetoir. He’s far from his ceiling.

          4. if thats your opinion thats cool i dont know why my opinion is getting your panties wet, all I’m saying is that with okafor you can already tell what kind of nba player he’s going to be and its going to be pretty similar to what we’ve already seen from him this far, but with russell we are going to see his potential as he grows, can you agree with that?

          5. I just don’t get how you can be so sure that Okafor is a know quantity after 7 games but Russell will someday become a star while showing so much less. Seems you are seeing what you want to see in those two, but that’s cool with me.

          6. okafor and russell have 2 different objectives, okafor needs to polish his game russell needs to reach his potential

          1. Duncan was 2nd team all nba defense last year. It certainly wasn’t for his quickness and leaping ability. I think Okafor can make a lot of improvements there. He also can learn to pass better out of the double team. Would make him a very potent offensive weapon. Stuff like that and why not a 3pt shot since apparently his able to master soo much at 19.

          2. maybe okafor will develop some athleticism over night and start taking off from the free-throw line on his dunks

          3. So Duncan didn’t make all nba defensive team last year, or are you agreeing with me that he can improve a lot and is far from his ceiling?

          4. no imo okafor is close to his ceiling, obviously he will get better with more experience and stronger as he gets older but his game is what it is and he is a pretty dam good player but i believe russell will reach a higher level of basketball

      2. If he’s so good fundamentally, why does the opposing team outscore him in the paint? Why does the opposing center and PF have banner nights?

        He will never have anything remotely called defense and is nothing more than a 1-dimensional scorer who might not get much better.

        1. you’re so focused on getting attention from me that you didn’t even realize you just said the samething i said

          1. edit? do you ever post your own comments or are you always a diva that likes to argue?

  • We should have picked Okafor – there is no argument of who is the better player – Huertas posted the same line as Russell tonight

    1. The Lakers lost tonight because they got absolutely killed on the glass. Do you think Okafor’s 5 rebounds a game would cut it?

        1. It’s not surprising though, he has never been known as a rebounder. Remember in the playoffs he had that zero rebound game.

          1. He’s focused on protecting the paint, and as such is *kinda* out of position to get easy rebounds. Either you jump to stop the shot, or you jump to grab the rebound.

            Imagine how effective Hibbert would be if he were playing beside Kevin Love?

          2. no excuses Roy sucked in last years in Indiana on D and on O and barely no rebounds and is a mediocre defender here which is why he got his lunch ate by whitside, he gets a few blocks just by being 7-2
            sacre might have more hops

          3. his defense was great last season and has been great this season the issue is perimiter defense

          4. using the word great to loosely he is an emerging player not great! no allstar or any other awards fresh from the Dleague and bubbling up to be more than a role player! but if he consistently dispatch of his competition like he did with hibbert he is on his way

          5. That is true – but i dont get why we sign a non rebounding center when that was one of our biggest shortcomings last year. I would have rather signed Kyle O’Quinn to plug up the paint and some better role players to run the floor.

        2. Can’t rebound my himself. He is the only one defending the paint as well. He is not Wilt he is Roy.

          1. So we purposefully sign a center that cant rebound when that was one of our biggest problems last year?

    2. Yeah because Okafor and his 5 rebounds per game has made such an impact in Philadelphia…lmao

        1. And still their record is 0-7, I guess Okafor’s 5 rebounds aren’t really doing it are they?

          1. the fanboy’s mad? lmao you’re the clear example of a FAKE FAN, we don’t appreciate people like you here.

          2. LOL. Speak for yourself clown baby – I have been a regular poster on this site for the past 5 years – all the real people on this site know and have appreciated the insight. You just showed up a few days ago.

            Been to every single NBA finals over the past 20 years – my pops played ball with Magic at the YMCA in LA – grew up in the same apt complex as james worthy. I bleed purple and gold – in the BAY for the past 17 years no less. Withstanding more hater brigades than you could fathom.

            I’m not a sucker that wears V-necks and eyeliner like you do breh. You add no basketball insight – just a little keyboard warrior.

        1. Oh wow and the 76ers are still 0-7 I guess he isn’t much of a impact player is he? oh and Okafor is getting 30+ minutes per game while Russell is barely playing 20+ minutes per game.

          1. If all you are getting is 20 minutes…you go out there and you kill it for 20 minutes.

          2. I did. You think Russell would do better if given as much time as Okafor during a game.

          3. For sure, especially when Russell is capable of getting the same amount of rebounds as Okafor even though Russell is like what, 5 inches shorter than Okafor? lmao

          4. I wasn’t agreeing with you. I letting you know that I understood your point…you indicated that i didn’t.

          5. Did you not say “uuuugh ok you CLEARLY didn’t get the point. good job.” I was simply letting you know that CLEARLY I did get your point. I just don’t agree with that point.

    3. with okafor what you see is what you get he’s a good fundamentally offensive player, we seen it at duke and we’re seeing it now but this is his ceiling. as for russell, he’s building confidence and getting mentally and physically stronger, when he reaches his potential he will break defenses down with finnese dribbling, high IQ passing, and lil quick jumpers not to mention his 3 point ability. we made the right choice

      1. So your calling the ceiling of a 19 year old after 7 games? Can’t we wait till after the ASB for that lol.

          1. So your saying a 19 year has no development left to make? He’d be the first one in history.

          2. no I’m saying he’s already pretty much there he doesn’t need much work he’s pretty close to “nba ready” is he not?

          3. NBA ready just means people can see how they will make an immediate impact not to the completeness of their game. You can be unstoppable in the post but still have a ton of areas to improve at 19.

            Okafor just has a pretty complete post move repetoir. He’s far from his ceiling.

          4. if thats your opinion thats cool i dont know why my opinion is getting your panties wet, all I’m saying is that with okafor you can already tell what kind of nba player he’s going to be and its going to be pretty similar to what we’ve already seen from him this far, but with russell we are going to see his potential as he grows, can you agree with that?

          5. I just don’t get how you can be so sure that Okafor is a know quantity after 7 games but Russell will someday become a star while showing so much less. Seems you are seeing what you want to see in those two, but that’s cool with me.

          6. okafor and russell have 2 different objectives, okafor needs to polish his game russell needs to reach his potential

          7. okafor still have a ton of improvements he can make to his game.

            his passing out of double teams can and should improve.

            his rebounding can and should improve.

            just go watch a rookie demarcus cuz and you can see what okafor could turn into

          8. you shouldn’t argue with guys who just regurgitate B.S. from supposed scouts who usually don’t know who develops to what which is why in redrafts usually never go in the same order… You cant measure greatness and desire and or when it ignite and catches fire ie whiteside, Curry, Harden etc…

          1. Duncan was 2nd team all nba defense last year. It certainly wasn’t for his quickness and leaping ability. I think Okafor can make a lot of improvements there. He also can learn to pass better out of the double team. Would make him a very potent offensive weapon. Stuff like that and why not a 3pt shot since apparently his able to master soo much at 19.

          2. maybe okafor will develop some athleticism over night and start taking off from the free-throw line on his dunks

          3. So Duncan didn’t make all nba defensive team last year, or are you agreeing with me that he can improve a lot and is far from his ceiling?

          4. no imo okafor is close to his ceiling, obviously he will get better with more experience and stronger as he gets older but his game is what it is and he is a pretty dam good player but i believe russell will reach a higher level of basketball

          5. Yeah, I was thinking the same thing about D’ slo, So slo, More slo, Oh how slo, or whatever, he stink.

      2. If he’s so good fundamentally, why does the opposing team outscore him in the paint? Why does the opposing center and PF have banner nights?

        He will never have anything remotely called defense and is nothing more than a 1-dimensional scorer who might not get much better.

        1. you’re so focused on getting attention from me that you didn’t even realize you just said the samething i said

          1. edit? do you ever post your own comments or are you always a diva that likes to argue?

      1. You may be right in the long run – I just dont know how well he eventually meshes with this squad – considering how much JC and JR need to put the ball on the floor to get buckets.

  • At 1-6, I won’t be surprise if Lakers Fire Byron Scott.
    Russel and Clarkson at 1&2 is not working, and Kobe is shooting poorly as SF.

    Russel, Kobe, MWP/Bass, Randle, Hibbert
    Clarkson, Williams, Young, Nance/Bass, Black.

    Kobe become a LEGEND as SHOOTING GUARD, put him BACK as SG.

    1. Clarkson and Russell will just have to learn how to play together, Kobe won’t be with us forever, basketball is a sport where you need PATIENCE something that most people in this page don’t have.

      1. I honestly have patience, I just don’t have patience for the people that don’t have patience.

      2. exactly. russell and clarkson can work together — but they need as much time as possible on the floor together!

  • At 1-6, I won’t be surprise if Lakers Fire Byron Scott.
    Russel and Clarkson at 1&2 is not working, and Kobe is shooting poorly as SF.

    Russel, Kobe, MWP/Bass, Randle, Hibbert
    Clarkson, Williams, Young, Nance/Bass, Black.

    Kobe become a LEGEND as SHOOTING GUARD, put him BACK as SG.

    1. Clarkson and Russell will just have to learn how to play together, Kobe won’t be with us forever, basketball is a sport where you need PATIENCE something that most people in this page don’t have.

      1. I honestly have patience, I just don’t have patience for the people that don’t have patience.

        1. Yeah I’ve noticed this page is full of wannabe Coaches and fake fans and for some reason they think they know what’s better for the team and they call our rookies “trash” even though none of them even made it to the elementary-primary school basketball team lmao.

          1. That’s how it is, if people feel offended by my comment it’s because they know they’re part of the people that i’m describing in my comment.

      2. exactly. russell and clarkson can work together — but they need as much time as possible on the floor together!

        1. they should work. clark so far has proven he can play some sg because he has improved his jumper greatly. however both have issues they need to improve

      3. That’s why it’s a f*****g headscratcher why they drafted Russell, knowing that they already have an all-rookie PG in Clarkson. Clarkson’s advantage is he’s bigger and stronger than other PG’s, like Westbrook he is also aggressive in attacking the rim. Put him in the 2 spot and that advantage is gone because now he’s matched up with guys bigger or stronger than him. Just plain dumb move by FO. I like Russell no doubt about it, but one of these guys have to go just like what happened to Ellis & Curry in GSW.

        1. Yep, and they got rid of Ellis because he couldn’t see the floor like Curry could. DLo already has a better feel for getting team mates involved than Clarkson whose only passes appear to be basic, simple transition passes and kick outs. He is not a point guard who will get others involved.

          1. wile i do agree with you they also went with curry because he was a great shooter and looked like he could be a future star. atm russel has nothing that looks nba lvl

  • Scott said he values winning over developing young players? Well haven’t seen either one so……

    1. No he values toughness. You’ve got to man-up and not be soft. Why would he value anything else?

  • Scott said he values winning over developing young players? Well haven’t seen either one so……

    1. No he values toughness. You’ve got to man-up and not be soft. Why would he value anything else?

  • Man, what a mess. BS was a public relations hire from the start. It gave fans something to feel good about because “Ooooh, he comes from the Laker family etc etc”. They ignored the fact that his success as coach came with Veteran laden teams, but when he had a young rebuilding team, he fell flat on his face.

  • Man, what a mess. BS was a public relations hire from the start. It gave fans something to feel good about because “Ooooh, he comes from the Laker family etc etc”. They ignored the fact that his success as coach came with Veteran laden teams which had CP3 and Jkidd who lets face it, probably did as much or more coaching on those Hornets/Nets teams as BS. But when he had a young rebuilding team in CLE, he fell flat on his face.

  • Can mr scott also consider to resign..i want HIM to leave LA so BADLY!!HE IS A POISON THAT WOULD KILL YOUNG GUYS LIKE RUSSELL & BROWN

  • Can mr scott also consider to resign..i want HIM to leave LA so BADLY!!HE IS A POISON THAT WOULD KILL YOUNG GUYS LIKE RUSSELL & BROWN

  • tough loss…..we play tomorrow just suck it up and move on.
    ready for the next game..cmon Lakers!

  • tough loss…..we play tomorrow just suck it up and move on.
    ready for the next game..cmon Lakers!

  • This is for the morons who are calling Russell a bust and those who cosign Scott’s benching of DR…

    Baxter Holmes ‏@BaxterHolmes 2h2 hours ago

    D’Angelo Russell checked out with 4:52 in 3Q. He never checked back in. That’s the third 4Q that he’s spent on the bench so far this season.

    Baxter Holmes ‏@BaxterHolmes 2h2 hours ago

    When Russell checked out, the Heat led the Lakers, 63-60. Scott said he never put him back in later on because the game got out of control.

    Baxter Holmes ‏@BaxterHolmes 3h3 hours ago

    D’Angelo Russell on playing late in games: “I’ve got to figure out what I’m doing wrong so I can correct it.”

    Byron explain why?

    “No.”

    Scott is blowing it! He’s hazing Russell. SMH His ego is out of control and was called into question in the past by Jason Kidd and David West. Wes Johnson said you never know what’s going on, in regards to playing for the Lakers under Scott. Lin, Boozer, Ellington and Hill all scratched their heads at time last season also. I’m trying real hard to be patient with Scott but he’s staying true to these past concerns.

    1. What ived noticed too the sports nets lakers analyst dont even criticize BS they way he coach, but when the lakers had D’Antoni as a coach every single game their criticizing him.

    2. agreed 100% what is this bull he did not play cause its out of hand yet you had clark and randle in?????????

      scott cant coach

      1. Clark and Randle can score….. What can Russel do besides bricks and turnovers?

        But yes, this game was a lost, should have just thrown Russle in so the can get use to the speed and physicality of the NBA. Build up his confidence.

        But again, this is BS we’re talking about. He’s known for destroying confidence and throwing players under the bus who aren’t on his good side.

  • FO should fire Scott he doesn’t know how to win, doesn’t know how to develop these players, no offensive system in place, no defense. And most importantly doesn’t have good chemistry with players. He thinks very highly of himself and it shows in the way he conducts himself during interviews.

  • Jeannie need to do something, fired his brother and BS. This team is far better than we have last year, the record supposed to be 6-1 instead of 1-6.

  • Fire Scott , get rid of the Princeton. 3 coaches waiting to be hired – Jackson , Thibs and Brooks. Any of these 3 will work , more so the first 2 mentioned. This season is starting to look real bad. Here is a part of an article I read in bleacher the other day written by David Murphy, he hit this one on the lakers biggest flaws. “Scott is not a tactician, nor is he a motivator of men. And unfortunately, he doesn’t have the kind of support staff that can make up for his own deficiencies. His chain of command remains curiously unchanged from last season’s epic 21-61 disaster, with Paul Pressey, Jim Eyen and MarkMadsen still sitting alongside him. Despite whatever expertise these three basketball pros possess, they seem to serve as little more than yes-men to their commander’s stubborn resolve.” And that my friends is the biggest issue on this team.

    1. Thibs wont coach this season(vacation)
      Scott Brooks has KD and RussWB
      Jackson had beef with the FO in GSW(lakers wont hire him)

      real options are: JVG,Mike Malone,Brian Shaw….Ollie better be hired in 5 yrs

      1. My moneys on Ollie. His coaching style can relate to this young team better. I think the other coaches would rather be coaching a contending or established team. Not a dysfunctional one.

        1. yeah, but he just re-signed with his team last year(5 year contract), he will be available later rather than sooner

    2. compared to Mike Brown’s staff who had legit minds sitting next to him. Messina and Snyder both head coach worthy

    3. Wait the season out and hire Luke Walton, if GS doesn’t first. Worried Kerr might step away. He doesn’t seem to like doing one role very long.

  • Oh man… That 4th qt was pure blasphemy. Totally urinating in the face of the basketball gods. How’s that defence coming Scott? What we see is utter confusion. The players are confused. Billy Mac and Stu are appalled and we fans are in shock.

    Nice of Lou to seamlessly step in to the role of bricklayer with Kobe out.

    Positives? Metta looking fantastic compared to expextations of him. Swaggy P showing the haters he still can put the biscuit in the basket (even though he joined the brick party in the 4th).

    Playoffs, here we come!!! o_O

  • Oh man… That 4th qt was pure blasphemy. Totally urinating in the face of the basketball gods. How’s that defence coming Scott? What we see is utter confusion. The players are confused. Billy Mac and Stu are appalled and we fans are in shock.

    Nice of Lou to seamlessly step in to the role of bricklayer with Kobe out.

    Positives? Metta looking fantastic compared to expextations of him. Swaggy P showing the haters he still can put the biscuit in the basket (even though he joined the brick party in the 4th).

    Playoffs, here we come!!! o_O

  • Scott has been pretty good with PG’s……Kyrie Irving was a young Guard when he came into the league…as well as CP3….It’s very possible that Russell may not be as Advertised……He could just be a Bust…….Let’s Hope not…at least the FO should.

    1. They were also point guards in high school and college. Lakers are trying to turn Russell into a point guard after playing the 2 guard in high school and college. It won’t happen overnight.

      And there was a reason he wasn’t a PG college, he will never be a prototypical Point Guard. Just not how he is built.

      He led Ohio State in assists as the 2 guard. But if you watched his games, his assists were never of the probing variety, he just had great vision and was good at finding the open man quickly once he got the ball.

      1. This is what I saw of him the few Ohio St. games I watched. I wondered why everyone was so high on his PG abilities? All I saw was some highlight reel passes with a smooth scoring ability.

        1. I don’t think many people expect him to be a prototypical PG, well maybe Truth B Told does, but most saw him coming out of college as being more in the mold of Curry, who plays off the ball most of the game. And I do think Russell can be that type of player. Curry relies on being on a great passing team though, and the Lakers don’t have that, not yet. They will get there.

          1. Exactly what I said about us not being a good passing team, as our assist totals are on the lower end of the league at about 18 per game. Lots of layers as to why that is. Easy to point fingers at Scott, Kobe, Russell, the FO ETC… in looking for who’s to blame.

  • Scott has been pretty good with PG’s……Kyrie Irving was a young Guard when he came into the league…as well as CP3….It’s very possible that Russell may not be as Advertised……He could just be a Bust…….Let’s Hope not…at least the FO should.

    1. They were also point guards in high school and college. Lakers are trying to turn Russell into a point guard after playing the 2 guard in high school and college. It won’t happen overnight.

      And there was a reason he wasn’t a PG college, he will never be a prototypical Point Guard. Just not how he is built.

      He led Ohio State in assists as the 2 guard. But if you watched his games, his assists were never of the probing variety, he just had great vision and was good at finding the open man quickly once he got the ball.

      1. This is what I saw of him the few Ohio St. games I watched. I wondered why everyone was so high on his PG abilities? All I saw was some highlight reel passes with a smooth scoring ability.

        1. I don’t think many people expect him to be a prototypical PG, well maybe Truth B Told does, but most saw him coming out of college as being more in the mold of Curry, who plays off the ball most of the game. And I do think Russell can be that type of player. Curry relies on being on a great passing team though, and the Lakers don’t have that, not yet. They will get there.

          1. Exactly what I said about us not being a good passing team, as our assist totals are on the lower end of the league at about 18 per game. Lots of layers as to why that is. Easy to point fingers at Scott, Kobe, Russell, the FO ETC… in looking for who’s to blame.

          1. I think Mitch wanted him to play along side Clarkson. Russell is a off-ball guard who can shoot and dish(when needed) like Curry. I can guess Mitch wanted Clarkson to be the main PG who runs the PnR because he is way better at Russell at getting into the lanes with his speed and once Clarkson court vision gets better, he should see them working great with each other. I think the development of Clarkson court vision has a tole on how well Russell develops. Russell also needs to learn how to move off-ball better. He is lazy getting around screens.

          2. Russell has that Curry look in his game but not near as polished. Remember Curry took time to shine and it was not till they let Monta go that he really stepped up.

          3. So you saying we should let Clarkson walk in Free Agency? Because Clarkson does have the slash, pull-up jumper and ball-dominant type of game like Monta. Russell will benefit from a natural floor general. Not someone who is score-first Clarkson, but right now he is not in type of situation like Curry is. He has two damn good Point-Forward’s in Iggy and Dray with the Warriors who doesn’t care about scoring. Lakers only have one floor general who is right now just a 3rd string PG with a team full of score-first players. Somebody’s got to go or get trade and I mean SOON.

          4. Not implying JC should go. Just showing how Curry ascended. Magic played SG next to Norm Nixon for 4 years. It can be done but it depends on the willingness of the players involved to concede to team needs in adapting.

            Example; Lin and JC were seen as the same and had difficulty playing off ball with each other at first. But as time went on they found a groove and really started to shine in PNR offense. Scott was against that for some reason?

            Williams and Bass were addition we didn’t need. I like Williams but Scott is not using him right and I fear he never will on this team. Same goes for Bass. Bass in no all-star but he’s much better than he’s showing with us. We would have been better off paying Davis.He would at least be an option at center. Bass is not a center.

          5. Yea you are right but Clarkson is not a shooter meaning he is not really a off-ball type of guy. I seen flashes at times but that’s not his game at all. Russell is a great off-ball option but who will get him the ball with no floor general? I mean this team is already not a passing team so many scorers and scorers. I still blame the FO for not putting together a team that doesn’t complement each other style of play.

            I completely agree on the Davis would have been the better option than Davis than Bass would. Right now we are seeing Black getting more minutes which is great but Black isn’t just a defensive player like Davis. He is at least a better rebounder than both Davis and Bass.

          6. I feel you on the initial thought of the JC Russell combo but I believe they can grow into a dynamic duo once they find their groove. The problem is getting Russell involved. JC and Randle have a better connection already and Julius handles the ball quite often. Then you have Kobe commanding his ISO touches. There’s not much room for Russell to develop floor general chemistry with all of those hands on the ball. Then you have Scott, who does not trust DR, and has not given him play calling duties yet. Look at Mudiay in Denver? They gave him the keys no questions asked. Imagine Russell averaging 6 turnovers a game? Scott would yank him so fast! Denver is allowing Mudiay to work through that. Gary Harris is not your classic SG in Denver. Then Mudiay has a real NBA PG backing him up in Jameer. That falls on the FO as you state.

            Bottom line, we all need to calm down and let a 15-20 game sample size give us a better look at things. By then trades can be made and coaching change if deemed necessary.

            IDK if Black is a better rebounder than Davis. Matters not as we just blew that one. Hard to build team chemistry when you have as much turnover season to season as we’ve had the last 4 years.

          7. They are thinking GS modern basketball. Look at how much PNR we now run? Top 3 in the league and tops in scoring from it. Strange how different that is compared to last season when Scott was thwarting Lin from PNR. Man oh man would MDA be great for this group!

          8. Oh boy, here we go…

            Steve Blake has never been a pure PG. He looked like Steve Nash playing PG for MDA. Jeremy Lin is not a pure PG, he’s a combo guard who’s score first. MDA, Linsanity ring a bell?!? Gentry runs MDA’s system exclusively. Dragic is not a pure PG. Dragic is struggling outside of that system. Leandro Barbosa. He’s not even a PG by nature but he ran as back up to Nash with the Suns. And did a very good job.

            You need to stop man.

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    late night when you need my love
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  • I think Byron is using Russell as his whipping boy, he Is deflecting the blame to Russell, making us think that the team sucks is because Russell is not playing the right way. Nice try coach. I hope the team continue to lose every game so the FO fires his a$$ sooner than later, and maybe get to keep next year draft pick. Pray and more pray.

  • I think Byron is using Russell as his whipping boy, he Is deflecting the blame to Russell, making us think that the team sucks is because Russell is not playing the right way. Nice try coach. I hope the team continue to lose every game so the FO fires his a$$ sooner than later, and maybe get to keep next year draft pick. Pray and more pray.

    1. I would be very sad. I love Randle, my favorite Laker right now. I did want Winslow, but I think Russell will be a very exciting player in time. At the start of the season I was having trouble seeing the potential but now I am. Russell will be ok if they just let him, as you say.

  • Imagine if we had selected Okafor and traded Randle for Winslow or Johnson…
    Instead the FO decided to select Russel. But why restrain him? I mean, let him follow his instinct to run the show so we can see what he’s got!

    1. I would be very sad. I love Randle, my favorite Laker right now. I did want Winslow, but I think Russell will be a very exciting player in time. At the start of the season I was having trouble seeing the potential but now I am. Russell will be ok if they just let him, as you say.

  • You know, as a floor general D.R. should be out there playing as much as he can which makes perfect sense. Yes, it does not seem logical that he’s on the pine in a meaningless game, like they are trying to protect his stock or something. It’s akin to trading that player later down the road rather than having the ball orchestrate through his game so that they can get used to his personality and direction on the court. Maybe B.S. is trying to send a message that even though he is the 2nd overall pick, if you play lousy you sit? I like old school mentality, but i just can’t agree to that decision on a game that had no meaning as he was asked after the game. I believe it was one of those games that he should absolutely play to prove his worth with nothing else to loose. Toss him in the fire so to speak.

  • You know, as a floor general D.R. should be out there playing as much as he can which makes perfect sense. Yes, it does not seem logical that he’s on the pine in a meaningless game, like they are trying to protect his stock or something. It’s akin to trading that player later down the road rather than having the ball orchestrate through his game so that they can get used to his personality and direction on the court. Maybe B.S. is trying to send a message that even though he is the 2nd overall pick, if you play lousy you sit? I like old school mentality, but i just can’t agree to that decision on a game that had no meaning as he was asked after the game. I believe it was one of those games that he should absolutely play to prove his worth with nothing else to loose. Toss him in the fire so to speak.

    1. I agree. It was the perfect opportunity to have the boy show what he can do. I think that the boy needs to have fun to express his talent and right now it’s painful for everyone. I just hope that BS and Kobe are not annihilating Russel the way Jordan did with Kwame Brown…

  • I get what some of you fans are saying but nobody with any knowledge of basketball would come to the conclusion that this kid Russell is bust. Let’s ignore the fact that he has only played 7 games and is 19 years old. He is averaging 9 shots a game, less than nick young and lou who aren’t even “starters.”(Okaforion had 25 shots the other night as big) Rarely does he play more then 24 minutes in a 48 minute basketball game. On top of that he’s been playing with a erratic but extremely talented guard in clarkson who did more harm than good last night. Lets not forget Randle who’s jumper is practically non-existent, so basically 3 players that are not doing much offensively with the ball in there hands. Put mudiay or any other rookie in this situation and they would crumble under the lights.

  • I get what some of you fans are saying but nobody with any knowledge of basketball would come to the conclusion that this kid Russell is bust. Let’s ignore the fact that he has only played 7 games and is 19 years old. He is averaging 9 shots a game, less than nick young and lou who aren’t even “starters.”(Okaforion had 25 shots the other night as big) Rarely does he play more then 24 minutes in a 48 minute basketball game. On top of that he’s been playing with a erratic but extremely talented guard in clarkson who did more harm than good last night. Lets not forget Randle who’s jumper is practically non-existent, so basically 3 players that are not doing much offensively with the ball in there hands. Put mudiay or any other rookie in this situation and they would crumble under the lights.

  • I propose we use Randle as Point Forward and let Russell and Clarkson just be guards within the offense. Russell and Clarkson are both best off ball and Julius is best on the ball. Doesn’t mean I want Randle to be running pick and rolls like a traditional point guard, but just setting up the offense and putting pressure on the defense. Teams react to Randle having the ball.

  • I propose we use Randle as Point Forward and let Russell and Clarkson just be guards within the offense. Russell and Clarkson are both best off ball and Julius is best on the ball. Doesn’t mean I want Randle to be running pick and rolls like a traditional point guard, but just setting up the offense and putting pressure on the defense. Teams react to Randle having the ball.

  • Now to be fair to Scott I look at all sides of the debate. Eric Pincus is at every Lakers practice and had the following to say about the Scott Russell issue…

    Eric Pincus ‏@EricPincus 8h8 hours ago

    “Being nonchalant won’t cut it and I kind of get in the bad habit of being nonchalant” – D’Angelo Russell at summer league = why low minutes

    Allene Kim ‏@AKim_inLF 8h8 hours ago

    @EricPincus from what I remember, that quote was referring to defense, which seems to have improved the past few games.

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    Eric Pincus ‏@EricPincus 8h8 hours ago

    @AKim_inLF stop looking exclusively at games – look at what Scott doesn’t see day in and day out yet

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    Allene Kim ‏@AKim_inLF 8h8 hours ago

    @EricPincus unfortunately as a fan I can only see games. We rely on reports by writers.

    Jeff Stephens ‏@jffstphns3 8h8 hours ago Yucaipa, CA

    @EricPincus did Lakers recognize that this might be an issue when they worked him out pre-draft?

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    Eric Pincus ‏@EricPincus 8h8 hours ago

    @jffstphns3 no

    Ray Diaz ‏@Radius1238 8h8 hours ago

    @EricPincus is that still the case? poor work habits? or is that the assumption based on summer league quotes?

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    Eric Pincus ‏@EricPincus 8h8 hours ago

    @Radius1238 no it’s actually an issue – he hasn’t shown enough fire – not sure why fans don’t buy that, given it’s pretty clear thus far

    Interesting point of view. Strange how Scott and Russell are not on the same page so early?

    1. Saw a similar thing happen with Nick Young and Scott last year. Definitely would like to see more hustle from Russell. Has gotten better

      1. No it hasn’t. His production has gotten better, but his passion is still not there. Passion would make it so that Byron would have no choice but to play him. Byron is from the old school of NBA players where you get on the floor because you earned it…not you were drafted high. Magic Johnson was jumping up in Kareem’s arms in game 1 of his rookie season because they won a close game…That’s passion.

        1. Nothing to get excited about. Maybe we will see that if he was allowed to play in the 4th quarter when the game is on the line.

          1. You show passion in the first quarter. Plus, the Lakers have played 7 games. He has not played in the fourth quarter of 3…Doesn’t that mean that he has played in the fourth quarter of 4???

            However, notice that all the stories are making it appear like he has not played in any fourth quarters.

          2. The 4th quarter issue is more about him closing out games than not playing in the 4th at all. Let’s not jump to conclusions. The passion issue could be a personality disconnect as I stated earlier. Not everyone is a RAH, RAH, RAH type. Now if he’s not putting in the work, that’s another thing.

          3. They are connected though. Come on, are you telling me that you don’t see a problem with his level of passion? Passion dictates energy level. I would love it if his response to not playing was…”I’ll work harder.” He hasn’t said that one time.

          4. The only red flag for me with Russell is his in game aggressiveness. I’ll reserve judgement on both sides of this argument till we see a bigger sample size. I just find it strange how Kobe has nothing but high praise for Russell. We both know Kobe would not do that if he felt DR was passionless.

          5. You can’t pick and choose the things you consider so as to justify your argument or stance…well, actually you can I guess.

            My point is that his in game aggressiveness is probably the same thing being shown when he is in practice. Notice, with Randle, all that was talked about before the season was his motor. You never heard any Lakers players talk about Russell’s motor. They talked about his court vision and passing skills. He has shown that in the games as well. But what about his motor?

            As for Kobe, perhaps he realizes that Russell is considered part of the future and doesn’t want to hurt that potential.

          6. WOW. More accusations.

            Scott can’t make up his mind. With JC and Lin it was slow down. With Russell its’ speed up. When Kobe’s on the floor Scott want it to be slow. Then his second unit is small ball. See the confusion? This is a very young team and the best way to get easy buckets for them is to run. That should be the message 24/7 no matter who’s on the floor. Slow Hibbert does not matter and I use KAJ as example. 40 year old Kareem was not running with Showtime.

            Bottom line, Wes Johnson said it best “you never know what to expect with Scott.”

          7. Is it possible that JC and Lin were going too fast and Russell is not going fast enough and what Scott wants is something in the middle? What he may be guilty of is not being clear…but he could be quite consistent.
            When Kobe is on the floor, it should be slow. KObe ain’t running the floor. His game is half court now.
            Phil had an entirely different philosophy with Farmar and Vujacic as the Bench Mob during those championships.
            KAJ is not a good example. KAJ wouldn’t even cross half court for offense unless Magic couldn’t get the fast paced shot created. Hibbert is not offensive, and doesn’t switch ends well.
            Wes might be true. Can’t say that he isn’t.

            And what is this with “accusations”. I say you are doing something and now you make a big deal about that? Uh oh, another accusation.

          8. You say I’m doing something and are proven wrong most of the time. It comes off passive aggressive agenda like. Save all of that for someone else. I have no problem with a debate but the extra is how things go left.

            Kobe can run the floor. I’ve seen it. He actually does better at getting easy buckets like that. Kobe exerts himself more in ISO. Point being taking much more difficult shots that are likely misses where he needs to hustle back to help stop a fast break.

            Of course it was slightly different for Farmar and them minus Kobe. Kobe cannot be replicated. The first unit still ran.

          9. What??? Passive aggressive? I hate when people use terms that they don’t understand.

            He use to…but a steady diet of it now when get him injured. That’s what happened when he tried to do it in MDA’s system. I was referring to Farmar (and Vujacic) during the Phil years. The first unit didn’t run then. They were running the Triangle.

          10. MDA did not run fast paced offense when Kobe got injured. We never saw 7 second MDA offense. Big misconception most hang on. MDA installed his PNR sets. Horns being the main diet. Kobe just wore his body down with all of those minutes and the cumulative wear and tear over the years.

            I absolutely understand the term I used. You keep coming at me with the little sideways accusations.

          11. I have been straight forward with my accusations…nothing sideways about it. If you don’t like it…tough.

            I watched almost every game that season in which Kobe got hurt and the Lakers did run. It wasn’t 7 seconds or less but it was a faster pace offense. They only used the half-court sets when transition didn’t work. It was talked about constantly that year because they took many ill-advised shots trying to push the pace. It was also stated that year that the minutes and the pace wore Kobe down.

          12. Tough it is then. But there’s nothing straight forward about false accusations!

            Every team in the NBA breaks when the can. Again, it’s the best way to manufacture easy buckets. Nash told us they did nothing close to the full uptempo MDA offense. I’m not sure what games you remember but I recall more half court offense in 12-13. A full blown faster paced team with Nash on it would have had his hands on the ball more. Kobe handled the rock equally if not more than Nash as they were almost equal in assists. The offensive pace skyrocketed the next season as Kobe was out. Those 6 games Kobe did play he slow things down opting for more of a two man game with he and Pau. Dig this, the offensive pace rating this season is higher than it was under MDA in 13-14. Bottom line, 12-13 was all about the horns sets and other forms of PNR, as that is how MDA was able to utilize both Gasol and Howard while Kobe and Nash shared in being the set up man.

          13. I just went back and found articles where D’Antoni was accused of trying to run the uptempo offense with that roster for the Lakers. I wish I could pull some game footage for you.

          14. Well I can give you articles and detailed footage of the horns sets in the half court that set the offense off that season…

            Silver Screen and Roll break down of Lakers Horns:
            https://www. youtube .com/watch?v=r-kkdbLHzbU

            Half court hoops video of the Lakers Horns:
            https://www. youtube .com/watch?v=DnYQ76jNSiI

            Silver Screen and Roll has several break downs and articles of the Lakers half court offense from 12-13. Again, the pace they set that season is slower than 13-14 equal to 14-15 and flat out slow compared to this season.

          15. No…but show some passion. It’s as if he thinks that he is entitled to something. He isn’t.

      2. it’s not like Lou Williams is lighting it up when he checks in. Problem is that Lou has been awful while Russell sits on the bench

        1. But Lou is still actively involved, he finds ways of supporting the others, and he is somewhat productive even when having a poor shooting night.

          Plus, for Lou and Nick, their shooting percentage would be better if they were able to get uncontested 3-pointers. The easiest shot in the NBA is an uncontested shot. The Lakers have no players that draw double-teams.

    2. I’ve been saying that all along. What some fans have called being “smooth” is clearly a lack of passion. Isiah Thomas brought it up last week on NBA TV. Steve Smith was joking with him about how well Clarkson had played and Isiah said…”No, you are the #2 pick!” He went on to say that you don’t let Clarkson take your spot…it’s your spot! Clearly Russell doesn’t show the fire that he needs to. What I hate the most is that he is now being used as the pawn of the media. Somebody needs to get a hold of him and advise him to stop giving the media those sound bites. They aren’t really concerned about him. They are using him to create enough of a situation to cause more issues for the Lakers. It is the 7th game into the season and somebody is actually talking about a player rookie being “benched”? That shouldn’t even be a topic so early in the season. Russell needs to stop talking and start playing harder.

      1. As long as Russell is answering the questions honestly, I don’t see an issue with what he says. It is what it is.

        1. All it does is create more of a story later. That’s an issue and it is doing harm. Every time he says “I don’t know…” it gives the appearance that he and Scott are not communicating. Even if that is the case, you don’t let that stuff out of the locker room. Very quickly he can get the reputation of being a guy that plays the victim and also that doesn’t mind throwing his coach under the bus. No coach wants a player like that.

          1. If they aren’t, they aren’t. It is what it is. So far it seems Scott is the one that needs to shutup

          2. You must like argueing since you never actually have a point. Argument after argument even if you have nothing to add to the discussion. Russell has answered questions yes or no. It isn’t like he starting anything. He is answering questions that Scott created in his interview just before his. He isn’t going out of his way to create trouble. Let it go.

          3. LOL…really? The better answer Russell could give is…”You need to ask the coach.” or even better…”My focus is working harder and getting better each day to help my team win games.”

            Not…”I don’t know why I’m not playing in the fourth.” Does that not make sense?

      2. The sound bites are part of the game. Coaches cannot silence a player. Russell is not the first player to air frustrations when interviewed. Kobe, Shaq and Phil made an art form out of it.

        I get that part about being competitive. I can’t put all the blame on Scott for that but something is strange about how he vets. I look at how many grievances he’s had over the years with other players. Most recently with Lin and a few others from last season. Sometimes it’s just a personality conflict. Look how Lin is playing in Charlotte?

        1. The coach shouldn’t have to silence a player. Russell is being manipulated by the media to help generate a story. Rookies should not be doing talk like this 7 games into the season especially when the issue is playing time in the fourth quarter. In 7 games he has played in the fourth quarter of 4…it isn’t like he hasn’t played in any.

          It’s really simple. Byron is an old school coach that believe in discipline and hard work and the new generation of players don’t believe in either. Pat Riley would have the same issue. Phil Jackson would have the same issue. It’s surprising that Pop doesn’t…however, if you have read some of the reports the last few years, it has been stated that Manu and Parker helped Pop to be more flexible to younger players. Otherwise, he would be the same.

          1. So we have a generational disconnect. Scott being the guy in charge must learn to adapt. I’m not saying he should concede his core values but he needs to find a way to reach these kids.

            I have no problem with what Russell has said publicly. Stories will be generated regardless. Look how the media got at Jimmy for his silence? A #2 pick will garner major attention from the media. Now increase that 100 fold given he’s a Laker. Again, Kobe sounded off all the same as a young buck and never stopped. Shaq was the same. Magic, Michael Jordan, ETC…

          2. Was killing Jones, Scott and the other guards in practice, but Harris didn’t like his cocky attitude. And Harris was let go the season or 2 after.

          3. EXACTLY!!! He earned the right to complain because he was not only hungry….he was showing his hunger. Kobe was working harder than everybody else on the team as a rookie.

          4. That’s what practices are for. You put in a great workout, it will get noticed. Obviously Russell is not doing that in Scott’s eyes.

          5. That’s what I’ve been saying while people have harped on this “developing players” through game minutes. You can’t disconnect practice from the game. They go together. You practice hard, you play more. That has been the rule since organized sports began.

          6. Well, he is the #2 Pick in LA, and other than Huertas, we have no true PG. He hasn’t earned those 4th qtr crunch time minutes yet. If he improves, then that will come.

          7. Again, it’s one thing if Lou and Huertas are playing well, but that hasn’t been the case

          8. And you see Huertas is not getting that many minutes no more, he wasn’t playing well. Slow on the Defensive end, his Offense is suspect. At least Williams is active and tries to draw fouls on his defender although he settles too much outside, when Russell learns those little things, and becomes a more aggressive player, his number will be called.

          9. In Scott’s eyes is the key. Teammates are not echoing that is my concern.

          10. What teammate is going to echo that about their star rookie draft pick?

          11. Hmm? Magic, Cooper, KAJ and pretty much the whole team went in on Scott the number 4 pick in the draft. They killed Byron for not performing well. This was well known at the time. Kobe was killed by Shaq and others as a rookie. Bynum’s work ethic was questioned by players publicly as our top pick. This is not an uncommon thing.

          12. None of those cases are like this. Kobe is in no position to criticize Russell publicly. In the other cases you listed, those players were. However, even still, NONE of them did what you are suggesting Kobe should do. Even Bynum was hit hard like this would be for Russell.

          13. First thing, I’m not suggesting Kobe do anything. I’m saying he’s not doing it because he does not see it as a problem. Next, it’s all the same in that veteran peers called out those rookies. Circumstances are irrelevant as your question is why would they.

          14. Circumstances are extremely relevant especially with Kobe. Kobe has always been the guy that says prove to me you can by outworking me. He can’t do that now.

          15. Yet you are saying he’s changing those stripes with Russell in other comments? Who’s trying to have it both ways to fit their argument?

          16. I’m saying KObe can’t prove people wrong anymore so he is less likely to say something arrogant. Has that not been the case over the last year? He would have never called himself a bad player before now. Kobe is changing because he has to.

            How am I being inconsistent to in showing that he is changing?

          17. Do you really believe Kobe was being literal when he said that? If you think Kobe was not being his usual sarcastic self with the media about him sucking, I got a bridge to sell you. The only thing Kobe is changing is his acceptance this is the end, and I’m not 100% sold on that.

          18. There was some sarcasm in it….he has a weird sense of humor. However, he would have never said that about himself at any other point in his career. That’s what I mean.

          19. Complaining that you can’t start is not the same as sounding so disconnected as to why you haven’t played in a few fourth quarters. I can’t believe you are taking up for Russell on this.

          20. But then Kobe was allowed to finish games even though he didn’t start. You tell me which complaint holds more weight?

          21. Kobe’s. He was bringing it hard, working the hardest of anybody on the team. He earned it. Is Russell doing that?

          22. Again, all we hear from Kobe and the rest of the team is how well Russell plays in practice. They all have said Russell is amazing at getting them the ball in positions to score. Not once have I heard his work ethic questioned by teammates. You cannot get me to think Kobe is just giving us lip service on that.

          23. What player on the team is going to front him out and say that he needs to work harder? Especially when not asked about that subject? Clearly, they mentioned the things that he has been good at thus far. However, they did talk about how hard Clarkson is working. And they did talk about Randle’s motor.

          24. Are you trying to tell me Kobe wouldn’t say so?!? The Kobe who called Shaq lazy. Come on now.

          25. Kobe was in a MUCH different position when he spoke about Shaq. Do you not understand that things have changed?

          26. Kobe is not one to bite his tongue. Never has and never will. What part of that don’t you get?

          27. I get it…however, what would it do for Russell or Kobe or even the team for Kobe to say something negative about the guy. Kobe hasn’t said anything negative about any of the young guys. It is speculation, but I believe it is because he doesn’t want to be charged with hurting them.

          28. Kobe didn’t directly say anything negative about Lin but he made it clear he was not happy with his effort. I disagree on the speculation to shield them theme. That’s not how Kobe works.

          29. That’s fine. I think that Kobe now sees that his time is up. I don’t think he saw before now. I think that is changing how he talks and acts.

            I would imagine that we will even see a different player when he returns to the floor.

          30. I agree Kobe finally sees the end. He’s been hinting about it for two years now. I don’t believe he would change on vetting youth or any teqammates. Think of how Kobe went at Young and Lou for challenging him in practice.

          31. MJ would do the same today…probably has already this year…that is much different than blasting a guy in the media when you know the media will just blast you instead…and you can’t do anything about it.

          32. When has Kobe ever cared about the media blasting him? Kobe knows he damned if he does or doesn’t.

    3. To be fair to BS, if Russell cant give me the confidence he has earned those 4th mins, I don’t think BS got it either. For those who said he hasnt played enough, they should realize Russ started and gets at least 20 mins lately. He cant blame it on playtime. His biggest problem now is defence. For his size, he should do a much better job defending. Next, drive. If you cant drive as PG nowadays, you are at the best a Marshall or Price. BTW no matter how hopeless this season will be, I still wanna win and watch my beloved Lakers plays a good game. Less Russ drama please. Let’s focus more on those who plays well, like Randle and Clarkson.

          1. Marcelo’s hip and ankles are still in Miami from that crossover Tyler Johnson put on him. Come on man?

          2. Other than Dragic who was clearly off, Russ got burned by almost all PGs he played against. Even Rubio who scored like Kobe. Come on…

          3. No one stopped Rubio. BTW, Minny is proving they are better than most thought. Plus we’re not talking about that game. Perimeter defense has been an issue for several years, for our Lakers.

          4. Wow Rubio? That Rubio? Scorer?? Come on LOL. BTW I was the one who said Lakers including Russ have no defense!!! Come on, what’s your position now huh??? Dun defend the indefensible. It’ll just make u look silly.

          5. What’s silly is you trying to state how a veteran player getting hot is a complete deficiency of a 19 year old rookie. Rubio is having a career year. Russell was not the only one guarding Ricky that night. No other PG has teed off on Russell like that this season. It’s still early but you got DR pegged right?

            Russell defensive versatility is part of the reason he was drafted. No ones expecting him to be Tony Allen from the jump.

          6. I guess we just have a different view and measure we use. This is like the early term “top-notch”. I don’t believe a guy is a veteran just because they’ve been around a few years. I look at what they’ve done over that time. Rubio, in many ways, has not experienced a lot concerning the NBA so I can’t consider him a veteran.

          7. These a basic rule for an NBA vet; if you are past your rookie contract and have been a starter or player who’s gotten major playing time over those years, you’re a vet. No other way to coin it really.

          8. You can make your own definition and pass it off as the league standard. (Uh oh, another accusation!)

            Whatever. If Rubio is a veteran, KG needs to create a new title for himself. They are not in the same category at all.

          9. Longer tenured vet. Ever thought of that? When you discharge from the military service, you are a veteran even if only completing enlisted time. If you’re not a rookie you’re a vet. I’m even giving it the 4 years of a rookie contract in seasoning.

            Looks like you are the one trying to make up standards.

          10. Yes we are. I just tend to have higher standards it would appear. Veterans have experience and wisdom that they can impart. Rubio doesn’t have that.

          11. Higher standards. Laughable. Is Rubio on KG’s level? NO but he’s a 6 year vet who can help a rookie. You continue to be judgemental in trying to diminish professionals of their craft.

      1. Russell checked out at 4:52 of the third quarter. Miami led 63-60. Russell didn’t get back into the game the rest of the way as Miami ran up the score on us.

        This is something we’ve seen on more than just this occasion. Russell is a better defender than any PG scott has used on roster, and seems to get the team into the offense better than all. Small sample size tho.

          1. The proof is in the performance. I guess we are watching different games. Russell held Dragic in check when he was on the floor. Huertas and Williams got murdered by Goran and Tyler Johnson.

          2. To be fair, Dragic was pretty off all game. He had 4 points on 2-10. Are you watching the same game? LOL

          3. So Russell had nothing to do with Goran being off? But isn’t it strange when Russell was off the floor Dragic went HAM? We lost that game when Russell was on the bench in the 3rd and 4th. YEP we watched different games.

          4. Have you read the new article on BS saying Kobe and MWP being the teams’ best defenders?? Let me emphasize the point made about Russ, Clarkson and Randle poor defense. Like I said no one is talking abt Russ’s def except you.

          5. Kobe our best defender?!? The Kobe who we hide on the worst offensive player? The Kobe who rarely gets back on defense when teams break on us? The Kobe who sags giving up wide open jumpers, gambles leaving teammates to cover for him, ETC…

            Scott loses any ounce of credibility he had saying that. LMAO

          6. Dun focus on kobe. BS can never say anything bad abt him. How abt the point on Russ defense? What def? I am asking you.

          7. Please type in english. Russell is a rookie, again, no ones expecting him to be Tony Allen but he’s shown flashes of being a very good defender. He uses his length to pick pickets and that is why he always has steals. He does a good job fighting through screens but again, I’m not claiming veteran consistency. Look at the Mudiay match up? When Russell was on the court they were fairly even with Russell slightly ahead. 4th quarter Scott pulls Russell and Mudiay tee’s off.

            Now, I’ve given you clear examples from multiple games. The proof is in the performance. Dragic goes off when Scott Pulls DR, Mudiay went off when Russell sat. In general we’ve lost touch in the second half of many games this season when Scott sat DR.

          8. did you watch Huertas’ defense? How about short 6’1 Lou Williams getting blown by every time

          9. I was responding to Russell getting “the team into the offense better than all.” I said, no he doesn’t. He is better on defense…but defense was not the reason he was considered the choice of the number 2 pick.

          10. Yet Scott said Russell needed to improve on defense as one of the problems he sees. I don’t recall Scott mentioning running the offense as a problem.

          11. He said the offense was his strong point. It might be. But if he isn’t aggressive, we won’t see it.

            In practice you can be more free because you are playing against guys that you know and know you. In the game, you are playing against unknowns to you and you have to work harder against them.

          12. Yet in the games Russell is outperforming all in running the team? See the drop off in offensive flow when Russell is off the floor. See Clarkson crediting Russell for his career high in points.

          13. First off…it is funny to me how extremely young (in basketball years) players are used as solid critics of other players. Clarkson is young and in no way should be looked to for offering a solid take on Russell’s game. He hasn’t played long enough to do that. Russell has had flashes of handling the offense well, but overall it isn’t even close to what was expected.

          14. Look, I want Russell to be more aggressive. Especially when it comes to looking for his own offense and dribble penetration.

        1. Come on, you guys have been setting pretty low bar when come to judging Russ’s performance. The kid’s performance to date has been mediocre at best. Just compare Russ with the starting PGs in NBA today. Can you say Russ is not back up at best in other teams? But, you cant say the same about KAT, Okafor, KP or Mudiay. Those rookies may start in other teams too but not our Russ. ALL I AM SAYING, dun keep making excuses for the kid. He’s not and should not be a star yet. Who knows, he may do a Kobe and heats up much later but right now, he’s not showing his worth yet.

  • Now to be fair to Scott I look at all sides of the debate. Eric Pincus is at every Lakers practice and had the following to say about the Scott Russell issue…

    Eric Pincus ‏@EricPincus 8h8 hours ago

    “Being nonchalant won’t cut it and I kind of get in the bad habit of being nonchalant” – D’Angelo Russell at summer league = why low minutes

    Allene Kim ‏@AKim_inLF 8h8 hours ago

    @EricPincus from what I remember, that quote was referring to defense, which seems to have improved the past few games.

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    Eric Pincus ‏@EricPincus 8h8 hours ago

    @AKim_inLF stop looking exclusively at games – look at what Scott doesn’t see day in and day out yet

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    Allene Kim ‏@AKim_inLF 8h8 hours ago

    @EricPincus unfortunately as a fan I can only see games. We rely on reports by writers.

    Jeff Stephens ‏@jffstphns3 8h8 hours ago Yucaipa, CA

    @EricPincus did Lakers recognize that this might be an issue when they worked him out pre-draft?

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    Eric Pincus ‏@EricPincus 8h8 hours ago

    @jffstphns3 no

    Ray Diaz ‏@Radius1238 8h8 hours ago

    @EricPincus is that still the case? poor work habits? or is that the assumption based on summer league quotes?

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    Eric Pincus ‏@EricPincus 8h8 hours ago

    @Radius1238 no it’s actually an issue – he hasn’t shown enough fire – not sure why fans don’t buy that, given it’s pretty clear thus far

    Interesting point of view. Strange how Scott and Russell are not on the same page so early?

    1. Saw a similar thing happen with Nick Young and Scott last year. Definitely would like to see more hustle from Russell. Has gotten better

      1. No it hasn’t. His production has gotten better, but his passion is still not there. Passion would make it so that Byron would have no choice but to play him. Byron is from the old school of NBA players where you get on the floor because you earned it…not you were drafted high. Magic Johnson was jumping up in Kareem’s arms in game 1 of his rookie season because they won a close game…That’s passion.

        1. Nothing to get excited about. Maybe we will see that if he was allowed to play in the 4th quarter when the game is on the line.

          1. You show passion in the first quarter. Plus, the Lakers have played 7 games. He has not played in the fourth quarter of 3…Doesn’t that mean that he has played in the fourth quarter of 4???

            However, notice that all the stories are making it appear like he has not played in any fourth quarters.

          2. The 4th quarter issue is more about him closing out games than not playing in the 4th at all. Let’s not jump to conclusions. The passion issue could be a personality disconnect as I stated earlier. Not everyone is a RAH, RAH, RAH type. Now if he’s not putting in the work, that’s another thing.

          3. They are connected though. Come on, are you telling me that you don’t see a problem with his level of passion? Passion dictates energy level. I would love it if his response to not playing was…”I’ll work harder.” He hasn’t said that one time.

          4. The only red flag for me with Russell is his in game aggressiveness. I’ll reserve judgement on both sides of this argument till we see a bigger sample size. I just find it strange how Kobe has nothing but high praise for Russell. We both know Kobe would not do that if he felt DR was passionless.

          5. You can’t pick and choose the things you consider so as to justify your argument or stance…well, actually you can I guess.

            My point is that his in game aggressiveness is probably the same thing being shown when he is in practice. Notice, with Randle, all that was talked about before the season was his motor. You never heard any Lakers players talk about Russell’s motor. They talked about his court vision and passing skills. He has shown that in the games as well. But what about his motor?

            As for Kobe, perhaps he realizes that Russell is considered part of the future and doesn’t want to hurt that potential.

          6. WOW. More accusations.

            Scott can’t make up his mind. With JC and Lin it was slow down. With Russell its’ speed up. When Kobe’s on the floor Scott want it to be slow. Then his second unit is small ball. See the confusion? This is a very young team and the best way to get easy buckets for them is to run. That should be the message 24/7 no matter who’s on the floor. Slow Hibbert does not matter and I use KAJ as example. 40 year old Kareem was not running with Showtime.

            Bottom line, Wes Johnson said it best “you never know what to expect with Scott.”

          7. Is it possible that JC and Lin were going too fast and Russell is not going fast enough and what Scott wants is something in the middle? What he may be guilty of is not being clear…but he could be quite consistent.
            When Kobe is on the floor, it should be slow. KObe ain’t running the floor. His game is half court now.
            Phil had an entirely different philosophy with Farmar and Vujacic as the Bench Mob during those championships.
            KAJ is not a good example. KAJ wouldn’t even cross half court for offense unless Magic couldn’t get the fast paced shot created. Hibbert is not offensive, and doesn’t switch ends well.
            Wes might be true. Can’t say that he isn’t.

            And what is this with “accusations”. I say you are doing something and now you make a big deal about that? Uh oh, another accusation.

          8. You say I’m doing something and are proven wrong most of the time. It comes off passive aggressive agenda like. Save all of that for someone else. I have no problem with a debate but the extra is how things go left.

            Kobe can run the floor. I’ve seen it. He actually does better at getting easy buckets like that. Kobe exerts himself more in ISO. Point being taking much more difficult shots that are likely misses where he needs to hustle back to help stop a fast break.

            Of course it was slightly different for Farmar and them minus Kobe. Kobe cannot be replicated. The first unit still ran.

          9. What??? Passive aggressive? I hate when people use terms that they don’t understand.

            He use to…but a steady diet of it now when get him injured. That’s what happened when he tried to do it in MDA’s system. I was referring to Farmar (and Vujacic) during the Phil years. The first unit didn’t run then. They were running the Triangle.

          10. MDA did not run fast paced offense when Kobe got injured. We never saw 7 second MDA offense. Big misconception most hang on. MDA installed his PNR sets. Horns being the main diet. Kobe just wore his body down with all of those minutes and the cumulative wear and tear over the years.

            I absolutely understand the term I used. You keep coming at me with the little sideways accusations.

          11. I have been straight forward with my accusations…nothing sideways about it. If you don’t like it…tough.

            I watched almost every game that season in which Kobe got hurt and the Lakers did run. It wasn’t 7 seconds or less but it was a faster pace offense. They only used the half-court sets when transition didn’t work. It was talked about constantly that year because they took many ill-advised shots trying to push the pace. It was also stated that year that the minutes and the pace wore Kobe down.

          12. Tough it is then. But there’s nothing straight forward about false accusations!

            Every team in the NBA breaks when the can. Again, it’s the best way to manufacture easy buckets. Nash told us they did nothing close to the full uptempo MDA offense. I’m not sure what games you remember but I recall more half court offense in 12-13. A full blown faster paced team with Nash on it would have had his hands on the ball more. Kobe handled the rock equally if not more than Nash as they were almost equal in assists. The offensive pace skyrocketed the next season as Kobe was out. Those 6 games Kobe did play he slow things down opting for more of a two man game with he and Pau. Dig this, the offensive pace rating this season is higher than it was under MDA in 13-14. Bottom line, 12-13 was all about the horns sets and other forms of PNR, as that is how MDA was able to utilize both Gasol and Howard while Kobe and Nash shared in being the set up man.

          13. I just went back and found articles where D’Antoni was accused of trying to run the uptempo offense with that roster for the Lakers. I wish I could pull some game footage for you.

          14. Well I can give you articles and detailed footage of the horns sets in the half court that set the offense off that season…

            Silver Screen and Roll break down of Lakers Horns:
            https://www. youtube .com/watch?v=r-kkdbLHzbU

            Half court hoops video of the Lakers Horns:
            https://www. youtube .com/watch?v=DnYQ76jNSiI

            Silver Screen and Roll has several break downs and articles of the Lakers half court offense from 12-13. Again, the pace they set that season is slower than 13-14 equal to 14-15 and flat out slow compared to this season.

          15. No…but show some passion. It’s as if he thinks that he is entitled to something. He isn’t.

      2. it’s not like Lou Williams is lighting it up when he checks in. Problem is that Lou has been awful while Russell sits on the bench

        1. But Lou is still actively involved, he finds ways of supporting the others, and he is somewhat productive even when having a poor shooting night.

          Plus, for Lou and Nick, their shooting percentage would be better if they were able to get uncontested 3-pointers. The easiest shot in the NBA is an uncontested shot. The Lakers have no players that draw double-teams.

    2. I’ve been saying that all along. What some fans have called being “smooth” is clearly a lack of passion. Isiah Thomas brought it up last week on NBA TV. Steve Smith was joking with him about how well Clarkson had played and Isiah said…”No, you are the #2 pick!” He went on to say that you don’t let Clarkson take your spot…it’s your spot! Clearly Russell doesn’t show the fire that he needs to. What I hate the most is that he is now being used as the pawn of the media. Somebody needs to get a hold of him and advise him to stop giving the media those sound bites. They aren’t really concerned about him. They are using him to create enough of a situation to cause more issues for the Lakers. It is the 7th game into the season and somebody is actually talking about a player rookie being “benched”? That shouldn’t even be a topic so early in the season. Russell needs to stop talking and start playing harder.

      1. As long as Russell is answering the questions honestly, I don’t see an issue with what he says. It is what it is.

        1. All it does is create more of a story later. That’s an issue and it is doing harm. Every time he says “I don’t know…” it gives the appearance that he and Scott are not communicating. Even if that is the case, you don’t let that stuff out of the locker room. Very quickly he can get the reputation of being a guy that plays the victim and also that doesn’t mind throwing his coach under the bus. No coach wants a player like that.

          1. If they aren’t, they aren’t. It is what it is. So far it seems Scott is the one that needs to shutup

          2. You must like argueing since you never actually have a point. Argument after argument even if you have nothing to add to the discussion. Russell has answered questions yes or no. It isn’t like he starting anything. He is answering questions that Scott created in his interview just before his. He isn’t going out of his way to create trouble. Let it go.

          3. LOL…really? The better answer Russell could give is…”You need to ask the coach.” or even better…”My focus is working harder and getting better each day to help my team win games.”

            Not…”I don’t know why I’m not playing in the fourth.” Does that not make sense?

          4. They asked him if Scott told him what he needed to do. He said “no”. Wow.

          5. That would be even worse. Just be honest and move on. Maybe Scott will tell him. You never know.

          6. Agree that Russell’s quotes are making the the situation worse. If you have a problem with Byron, go to the team captain or a coach for an explanation. No need at giving the media fuel to start controversy

          7. That’s what I was trying to tell incendy, but he doesn’t seem to get it.

      2. The sound bites are part of the game. Coaches cannot silence a player. Russell is not the first player to air frustrations when interviewed. Kobe, Shaq and Phil made an art form out of it.

        I get that part about being competitive. I can’t put all the blame on Scott for that but something is strange about how he vets. I look at how many grievances he’s had over the years with other players. Most recently with Lin and a few others from last season. Sometimes it’s just a personality conflict. Look how Lin is playing in Charlotte?

        1. The coach shouldn’t have to silence a player. Russell is being manipulated by the media to help generate a story. Rookies should not be doing talk like this 7 games into the season especially when the issue is playing time in the fourth quarter. In 7 games he has played in the fourth quarter of 4…it isn’t like he hasn’t played in any.

          It’s really simple. Byron is an old school coach that believe in discipline and hard work and the new generation of players don’t believe in either. Pat Riley would have the same issue. Phil Jackson would have the same issue. It’s surprising that Pop doesn’t…however, if you have read some of the reports the last few years, it has been stated that Manu and Parker helped Pop to be more flexible to younger players. Otherwise, he would be the same.

          1. So we have a generational disconnect. Scott being the guy in charge must learn to adapt. I’m not saying he should concede his core values but he needs to find a way to reach these kids.

            I have no problem with what Russell has said publicly. Stories will be generated regardless. Look how the media got at Jimmy for his silence? A #2 pick will garner major attention from the media. Now increase that 100 fold given he’s a Laker. Again, Kobe sounded off all the same as a young buck and never stopped. Shaq was the same. Magic, Michael Jordan, ETC…

          2. Was killing Jones, Scott and the other guards in practice, but Harris didn’t like his cocky attitude. And Harris was let go the season or 2 after.

          3. EXACTLY!!! He earned the right to complain because he was not only hungry….he was showing his hunger. Kobe was working harder than everybody else on the team as a rookie.

          4. That’s what practices are for. You put in a great workout, it will get noticed. Obviously Russell is not doing that in Scott’s eyes.

          5. That’s what I’ve been saying while people have harped on this “developing players” through game minutes. You can’t disconnect practice from the game. They go together. You practice hard, you play more. That has been the rule since organized sports began.

          6. Well, he is the #2 Pick in LA, and other than Huertas, we have no true PG. He hasn’t earned those 4th qtr crunch time minutes yet. If he improves, then that will come.

          7. Again, it’s one thing if Lou and Huertas are playing well, but that hasn’t been the case

          8. And you see Huertas is not getting that many minutes no more, he wasn’t playing well. Slow on the Defensive end, his Offense is suspect. At least Williams is active and tries to draw fouls on his defender although he settles too much outside, when Russell learns those little things, and becomes a more aggressive player, his number will be called.

          9. In Scott’s eyes is the key. Teammates are not echoing that is my concern.

          10. What teammate is going to echo that about their star rookie draft pick?

          11. Hmm? Magic, Cooper, KAJ and pretty much the whole team went in on Scott the number 4 pick in the draft. They killed Byron for not performing well. This was well known at the time. Kobe was killed by Shaq and others for being all flash as a rookie. Bynum’s work ethic was questioned by players publicly as our top pick. This is not an uncommon thing.

          12. None of those cases are like this. Kobe is in no position to criticize Russell publicly. In the other cases you listed, those players were. However, even still, NONE of them did what you are suggesting Kobe should do. Even Bynum was hit hard like this would be for Russell.

          13. First thing, I’m not suggesting Kobe do anything. I’m saying he’s not doing it because he does not see it as a problem. Next, it’s all the same in that veteran peers called out those rookies. Circumstances are irrelevant as your question is why would they.

          14. Circumstances are extremely relevant especially with Kobe. Kobe has always been the guy that says prove to me you can by outworking me. He can’t do that now.

          15. Yet you are saying he’s changing those stripes with Russell in other comments? Who’s trying to have it both ways to fit their argument?

          16. I’m saying KObe can’t prove people wrong anymore so he is less likely to say something arrogant. Has that not been the case over the last year? He would have never called himself a bad player before now. Kobe is changing because he has to.

            How am I being inconsistent to in showing that he is changing?

          17. Do you really believe Kobe was being literal when he said that? If you think Kobe was not being his usual sarcastic self with the media about him sucking, I got a bridge to sell you. The only thing Kobe is changing is his acceptance this is the end, and I’m not 100% sold on that.

          18. There was some sarcasm in it….he has a weird sense of humor. However, he would have never said that about himself at any other point in his career. That’s what I mean.

          19. Complaining that you can’t start is not the same as sounding so disconnected as to why you haven’t played in a few fourth quarters. I can’t believe you are taking up for Russell on this.

          20. But then Kobe was allowed to finish games even though he didn’t start. You tell me which complaint holds more weight?

          21. Kobe’s. He was bringing it hard, working the hardest of anybody on the team. He earned it. Is Russell doing that?

          22. Again, all we hear from Kobe and the rest of the team is how well Russell plays in practice. They all have said Russell is amazing at getting them the ball in positions to score. Not once have I heard his work ethic questioned by teammates. You cannot get me to think Kobe is just giving us lip service on that.

          23. What player on the team is going to front him out and say that he needs to work harder? Especially when not asked about that subject? Clearly, they mentioned the things that he has been good at thus far. However, they did talk about how hard Clarkson is working. And they did talk about Randle’s motor.

          24. Are you trying to tell me Kobe wouldn’t say so?!? The Kobe who called Shaq lazy. Come on now.

          25. Kobe was in a MUCH different position when he spoke about Shaq. Do you not understand that things have changed?

          26. Kobe is not one to bite his tongue. Never has and never will. What part of that don’t you get?

          27. I get it…however, what would it do for Russell or Kobe or even the team for Kobe to say something negative about the guy. Kobe hasn’t said anything negative about any of the young guys. It is speculation, but I believe it is because he doesn’t want to be charged with hurting them.

          28. Kobe didn’t directly say anything negative about Lin but he made it clear he was not happy with his effort. I disagree on the speculation to shield them theme. That’s not how Kobe works.

          29. That’s fine. I think that Kobe now sees that his time is up. I don’t think he saw before now. I think that is changing how he talks and acts.

            I would imagine that we will even see a different player when he returns to the floor.

          30. I agree Kobe finally sees the end. He’s been hinting about it for two years now. I don’t believe he would change on vetting youth or any teqammates. Think of how Kobe went at Young and Lou for challenging him in practice.

          31. MJ would do the same today…probably has already this year…that is much different than blasting a guy in the media when you know the media will just blast you instead…and you can’t do anything about it.

          32. When has Kobe ever cared about the media blasting him? Kobe knows he damned if he does or doesn’t.

    3. To be fair to BS, if Russell cant give me the confidence he has earned those 4th mins, I don’t think BS got it either. For those who said he hasnt played enough, they should realize Russ started and gets at least 20 mins lately. He cant blame it on playtime. His biggest problem now is defence. For his size, he should do a much better job defending. Next, drive. If you cant drive as PG nowadays, you are at the best a Marshall or Price. BTW no matter how hopeless this season will be, I still wanna win and watch my beloved Lakers plays a good game. Less Russ drama please. Let’s focus more on those who plays well, like Randle and Clarkson.

          1. 2 pts 3 assts against the Raptors. Dfish coulda shut him down. Dragic’s playing worse and worse every game. I have a feeling Goran has some boo boos we don’t hear about.

          2. Marcelo’s hip and ankles are still in Miami from that crossover Tyler Johnson put on him. Come on man?

          3. No one stopped Rubio. BTW, Minny is proving they are better than most thought. Plus we’re not talking about that game. Perimeter defense has been an issue for several years, for our Lakers.

          4. What’s silly is you trying to state how a veteran player getting hot is a complete deficiency of a 19 year old rookie. Rubio is having a career year. Russell was not the only one guarding Ricky that night. No other PG has teed off on Russell like that this season. It’s still early but you got DR pegged right?

            Russell defensive versatility is part of the reason he was drafted. No ones expecting him to be Tony Allen from the jump.

          5. I guess we just have a different view and measure we use. This is like the early term “top-notch”. I don’t believe a guy is a veteran just because they’ve been around a few years. I look at what they’ve done over that time. Rubio, in many ways, has not experienced a lot concerning the NBA so I can’t consider him a veteran.

          6. These a basic rule for an NBA vet; if you are past your rookie contract and have been a starter or player who’s gotten major playing time over those years, you’re a vet. No other way to coin it really.

          7. You can make your own definition and pass it off as the league standard. (Uh oh, another accusation!)

            Whatever. If Rubio is a veteran, KG needs to create a new title for himself. They are not in the same category at all.

          8. Longer tenured vet. Ever thought of that? When you discharge from the military service, you are a veteran even if only completing enlisted time. If you’re not a rookie you’re a vet. I’m even giving it the 4 years of a rookie contract in seasoning.

            Looks like you are the one trying to make up standards.

          9. Yes we are. I just tend to have higher standards it would appear. Veterans have experience and wisdom that they can impart. Rubio doesn’t have that.

          10. Higher standards. Laughable. Is Rubio on KG’s level? NO but he’s a 6 year vet who can help a rookie. You continue to be judgemental in trying to diminish professionals of their craft.

      1. Russell checked out at 4:52 of the third quarter. Miami led 63-60. Russell didn’t get back into the game the rest of the way as Miami ran up the score on us.

        This is something we’ve seen on more than just this occasion. Russell is a better defender than any PG scott has used on roster, and seems to get the team into the offense better than all. Small sample size tho.

          1. The proof is in the performance. I guess we are watching different games. Russell held Dragic in check when he was on the floor. Huertas and Williams got murdered by Goran and Tyler Johnson.

          2. To be fair, Dragic was pretty off all game. He had 4 points on 2-10. Are you watching the same game? LOL

          3. So Russell had nothing to do with Goran being off? But isn’t it strange when Russell was off the floor Dragic went HAM? We lost that game when Russell was on the bench in the 3rd and 4th. YEP we watched different games.

          4. Have you read the new article on BS saying Kobe and MWP being the teams’ best defenders?? Let me emphasize the point made about Russ, Clarkson and Randle poor defense. Like I said no one is talking abt Russ’s def except you.

          5. Kobe our best defender?!? The Kobe who we hide on the worst offensive player? The Kobe who rarely gets back on defense when teams break on us? The Kobe who sags giving up wide open jumpers, gambles leaving teammates to cover for him, ETC…

            Scott loses any ounce of credibility he had saying that. LMAO

          6. They haven’t been hiding Kobe…which is why he’s been getting burned.

          7. Please type in english. Russell is a rookie, again, no ones expecting him to be Tony Allen but he’s shown flashes of being a very good defender. He uses his length to pick pockets and that is why he always has steals. He does a good job fighting through screens but again, I’m not claiming veteran consistency. Look at the Mudiay match up? When Russell was on the court they were fairly even with Russell slightly ahead. 4th quarter Scott pulls Russell and Mudiay tee’s off.

            Now, I’ve given you clear examples from multiple games. The proof is in the performance. Dragic goes off when Scott Pulls DR, Mudiay went off when Russell sat. In general we’ve lost touch in the second half of many games this season when Scott sat DR.

          8. did you watch Huertas’ defense? How about short 6’1 Lou Williams getting blown by every time

          9. I was responding to Russell getting “the team into the offense better than all.” I said, no he doesn’t. He is better on defense…but defense was not the reason he was considered the choice of the number 2 pick.

          10. Yet Scott said Russell needed to improve on defense as one of the problems he sees. I don’t recall Scott mentioning running the offense as a problem.

          11. He said the offense was his strong point. It might be. But if he isn’t aggressive, we won’t see it.

            In practice you can be more free because you are playing against guys that you know and know you. In the game, you are playing against unknowns to you and you have to work harder against them.

          12. Yet in the games Russell is outperforming all in running the team? See the drop off in offensive flow when Russell is off the floor. See Clarkson crediting Russell for his career high in points.

          13. First off…it is funny to me how extremely young (in basketball years) players are used as solid critics of other players. Clarkson is young and in no way should be looked to for offering a solid take on Russell’s game. He hasn’t played long enough to do that. Russell has had flashes of handling the offense well, but overall it isn’t even close to what was expected.

          14. Look, I want Russell to be more aggressive. Especially when it comes to looking for his own offense and dribble penetration.

        1. Come on, you guys have been setting pretty low bar when come to judging Russ’s performance. The kid’s performance to date has been mediocre at best. Just compare Russ with the starting PGs in NBA today. Can you say Russ is not back up at best in other teams? But, you cant say the same about KAT, Okafor, KP or Mudiay. Those rookies may start in other teams too but not our Russ. ALL I AM SAYING, dun keep making excuses for the kid. He’s not and should not be a star yet. Who knows, he may do a Kobe and heats up much later but right now, he’s not showing his worth yet.

    1. this comment has been posted about a million times already, at least he’s banging the right one

    1. this comment has been posted about a million times already, at least he’s banging the right one

  • Sure appears like Scott is hiding his bad pick. The Lakers skipped on Okafor because they arrogantly thought they could sign a free agent big. Even then it looks like they passed over better small ball picks. Still looking for something that justifies taking Russell at two. Team is a mess. On track for a worse record than last year and they have yet to play a contender.

    1. Your 1st statement is exactly what they were thinking. There was also plenty of veteran PG’s in the NBA that LA could of snagged instead of Russell at the #2.

          1. TBH, I could see Rondo eventually clashing with Scott. Rondo is not one to be patient with a HC who’s prideful.

          2. Long as Scott doesn’t pull a Carlisle and let’s Rondo run the team, I think it would of been a smooth process. He’s a Vet and Scott knows that. He has no confidence in Russell yet.

          3. Russell is a rookie and with the Lakers Scott has shown he’s not rookie friendly.

          4. He had no problem with Irving and Paul as Rookies. They were aggressive and showed they belonged on the court. Russell most of the times is going through the motions out there.

          5. both irving and paul were much better athletes. Russell has his own strengths on the court

          6. Oh I know. Just responding to his Scott is not Rookie friendly post. Scott has no problems playing Rookies if you’ve earned it.

          7. Did Kyrie and CP3 have to share PG duties with a SG, SF and PF? Scott wants to feature Randle’s ball handling skills. We all know Kobe’s first nature is to be ball dominant. Then we have JC who functions best with the ball in his hands but is learning how to play off ball. Irving and Paul did not have to deal with all of that as rookies.

          8. They were the ONLY ball handlers for their teams.

            Think about when Nash went from Dallas to Phoenix. His game took off because he was now put in a system where he was the one responsible for the ball movement. Nash got a huge amount of the assists but it wasn’t as if everybody was passing. He was passing to everybody.

          9. Scott wants DLow to run the team and call the plays. How can he do that when he’s sharing ball handling duties? Irving and CP3 thrived because they didn’t have that conflict of floor general interest. Mudiay is advancing faster as a PG for the same reason.

            Nash took off in Phoenix for two reasons; MDA and the NBA rules change. I’m not trying to downplay Nash’s abilities but Don Nelson was a wide open free flowing coach also. Jason Kidd had huge PG success under Nelly. Nelly’s philosophy is not all that different from MDA. This is where the rules change helped Nash. it opened up the floor for him and MDA.

          10. For DLo to run the offense, we need different personnel around him. Randle doesn’t play off the ball well. Neither does Clarkson.

          11. I differ again. I think BS is protecting the kid. Dun forget the magic comparison. I think he’s not letting the kid burned when he’s not ready. And, Russ is clearly not ready.

          12. I agree which is why I think it’s wrong that he isn’t equally protecting Byron.

          13. It would have been like it was with Doc Rivers. Clashes, but the team would have won. Kobe clashed with Phil, but they won. Clashes are not a problem if you still bring it on the floor. Rondo would have been better defensively, he would have cleaned up the offensive incohesiveness of the team and him along with Kobe and Artest would have brought championship experience to the table.

            Instead of being a development team, they would have had the mix to be a playoff team.

          14. As stated, Rondo was my preference. Many argued me down saying Rondo was washed up and would be a distraction with his attitude. I’m OK with us being a young team that needs time to develop. I just think we may have the wrong coach for that task.

          15. We do…We have had the wrong coach for the roster since Phil left. We can’t seem to match the right coach with the current roster. If they make another rash firing now, we will most likely do the same again. Brown, MDA and Scott are all solid coaches. They have all had solid moments of success. Good coaches get fired. However, putting a coach with a group of players that don’t fit with them will normally lead to problems. Scott was here first…the Lakers should have given him his team.

          16. Agreed. I really thought they had it right with MDA though. Yes 12-13 was a mismatch in roster fit to his system but when he installed the horns, the team responded well as that help boost the 28-12 run.

            13-14 was a good fit for MDA but unfortunately the Gasol and Hill relationships were damaged from personality conflict. MDA still got that group to overachieve when healthy. I’m one who believes that last year and this would be much better if the FO had not folded to the public pressure to fire MDA. MDA is very good at developing players.

            I look at the coaching staff Scott has as a big reason he’s struggling also.

          17. Com eon man…really? So Byron hired the guys he did instead of “better coaches” because he was concerned about them taking his job? Really?

          18. “We’ve had some conversations over the past couple of weeks, just trying to figure out what we could do to get the ship righted, but … pride is a crazy thing,” he said. “I think pride is a dangerous, dangerous thing. I think there was a sense a few guys weren’t trusting what we had in terms of our system and our ability to know what we were going to get every single night from our system.”
            -David West on Byron Scott being fired

          19. Okay…I don’t see how that relates to your comment that Byron doesn’t want to hire good assistant coaches because they might steal his job.

          20. His pride doesn’t allow him to. it’s his way or the high way. Why do you think Byron has gotten fired 3 times? All of his teams eventually disconnected from him and turned on him

          21. But that is not a coaching staff issue, like say the one Mark Jackson had in Golden State. Scott’s pride gets in the way when dealing with players.

          22. Coaching is the issue with this team; on both offense and defense. dealing with players is part of coaching

          23. True but the context of this is the coaching staff make up, not Scott’s ability.

          24. all i’m saying is that Eyen, Pressey, and Madsen aren’t known for anything that they bring to the table in terms of on the court philosophy. For instance last year Kerr had Gentry who focused on offense while Adams focused on defense. Both well respected

          25. Agreed as that is why I stated his staff was suspect. But your response with the West quote was confusing in the context of the convo.

          26. Exactly….Questioning his coaching staff is one thing. The quote didn’t relate.

          27. Pat Riley said that when he left (not got fired) from the Lakers, he did so because he felt like they no longer heard him. They had won titles and no longer felt like they could hear his voice. That was a team with Magic, Worthy, Byron, etc. Bryon is not the first guy to wear out his welcome. In fact, very few coaches don’t which is why there is no longevity in professional sports for coaches. The ONLY thing that seems to extend a coaches time is when they have some players that have been there with them (i.e. Duncan with Pop, Tom Brady with Belicheck).

            College is different because coaches have control of EVERYTHING or so it seems.

          28. Scott wears out his welcome much too soon tho. And his player conflicts are detrimental as multiple top notch players question his direction.

          29. There is a lot of distance between top notch and average joe! Come on man, stop trying to exaggerate your point. Kidd is a potential HOF, West is not. Neither of them were championship players at the time Byron coached them.

          30. There are different levels. You need to stop it on the exaggeration also. West is a perennial all-star player and well respected in character, yet you are trying to diminish his status?

          31. I’m not diminishing him. I have said nothing disrespectful about his game or his character. All I’m saying is that to act as though either of them garnered the respect at times they played for Byron to be able to do as you suggested is just not true.

          32. What?!? Both were all-stars playing for Scott. You do understand that means they were tops in the league earning that position. I can’t even believe you just said that?

          33. Calm down. I just pulled the stats. West was an Allstar in 2008 and 2009. I forgot that. I was thinking his allstar bids started in Indiana. As for Kidd, I also went and checked and he did start winning defensive honors during his time with Byron. I’ll concede that as well.

          34. Many go so far as to say it was his assistant Eddie Jordan who had the Nets clicking offensively with the Princeton. They also claim Kidd was the reason for the finals trips. These are valid points of view.

          35. because you don’t see history repeating itself? What offensive mind does Byron have on his staff? defense? player development? If you aren’t a great coach, you need help. nothing wrong with that.

          36. Rondo’s vision is underrated. He would of gotten these guys the ball where they are most effective. He finds cutters, he knows who the shooters are, it would of been a more efficient Kobe as well. Had the old 3 in Boston still competing at their ages.

          37. People forget that Rondo ran the offense on a Celtics team that was heavy with Veterans…and they respected him because he earned their respect. That’s why Kobe wanted him…Rondo has the right attitude to win.

      1. It’s the only scenario that makes sense. Who did they have in mind for the post at draft time? Not anybody that was already on the roster. Pretty certain it wasn’t Hibbert, who does not seem to be able to play at the level he once did. Would have like to have seen the look on their faces when Monroe signed with the Bucks.