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NBA Rumors: Kyrie Irving Will Be Offered Max Contract By Cavaliers

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Leading up to the NBA draft lottery, there were reports the Cleveland Cavaliers were not going to offer Kyrie Irving a max contract extension and were fielding calls for the All-Star.

According to Terry Pluto of The Plain Dealer, the Cavaliers will be offering Irving the five-year deal in the $90 million range:

“My sources tell me that the Cavs have had no doubts about offering Irving the 5-year deal, and will do so. Once July 1 arrives — the first date that an extension can be offered — the Cavs will set up a meeting with Irving. They will present their All-Star guard with a contract extension, a 5-year deal in the $90 million range (or whatever is the maximum number).”

Having said that, if Irving isn’t interested in an extension on July 1, the team will potentially look to deal him:

“Now, if Irving doesn’t seem interested in an extension, that could lead to a trade.”

While there will continue to be speculation, Los Angeles could be a potential trading partner should Irving not be interested in an extension. There was a recent report that Irving would find the Lakers to be an attractive destination especially if they were to hire his former coach and Laker, Byron Scott.

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With the NBA Draft less than 20 days away, the Lakers will explore all of their options including potentially trading the pick. The team has been rumored to make a “monster push” for Minnesota’s Kevin Love and if Irving doesn’t want to sign an extension to remain in Cleveland, he could also be a potential target.
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  • Angel Valdez

    The great White Hope Kevin Love? Reallt? Randall is the best forward with immediate potential and upside. Don’t go old. Jerry West pleeeeeeease come back!!!

    • Chris Park

      Given a choice i’d take Love over Randle any day + hes not even that old only 25 years old going to be in his prime in 1~2 years.

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    • Unga

      Jim Buss is the best dude ever.Lakers are the greatest franchise.Kyrie!SMH

      • Dino Madness

        Jim Buss is the worst thing that has happen to the Lakers. We may never see the Lakers celebrate another championship as long as Jimmy Boy is in charge.

        • joemikex310

          Your are the most retarded fan if I can even call you that…be help getting gasoline which brought two championships almost 3

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  • comrade24

    Either way, this kid belongs in LA. whether through trade or FA, make it happen

  • TheTruthKills

    No Love, no Kyrie, no nothing. Is everyone ready to accept that this rebuild will be a long and painful one? Is everyone ready to accept that there is no quick fix to this mess that we’re in?

    • comrade24

      no. you’re so doom and gloomy. we have cap space to add another max player plus a high draft pick. we can get back into contention quickly. it won’t be a one year turnaround but it’s not going to be a long, drawn out rebuild like you seem to imply.

      • TheTruthKills

        “You’re so doom and gloomy” Lol got me there. I’m constantly on the fence between realist and pessimist. It varies by situation.I don’t mean to be pessimistic (really I don’t), but we have no assets, few draft picks (only 2016 and 2018 unless we suck enough to get next year’s pick back), and no guarantee that any star players are coming. Sounds like a drawn out rebuild to me. I’d guess 4-5 years before we’re able to right the ship.

        • Computer Networking

          Assets are the key. That’s easy to accomplish.

          • Chrmngblly

            How so? All these FAs want max deals. The easiest way to get stuck in mediocrity is to get FAs that don’t live up to their contracts. We lost massively in the Nash and Howard rapes. The other GMs just bent JB over a barrel and porked him. All our draft picks are gone, Howard walks and we get zip out of Nash. Making that up is going to be a bitch.

          • Computer Networking

            Stephenson and lowry are not looking for max contracts. Asik is a one year contract. All three of these players would be some great assets to have. The lakers have 28 million to spend. They can make this happen.

          • LakerfansinceNickyVan

            Asik has that poison pill contract where he gets 14 million or something like that next yr. Thats an awful deal. Lowry and Stephenson seem to be the type that would ask for almost max deals. Either way, none of those guys push us over the top. Lets be real.

          • Computer Networking

            Lowry and Stephenson won’t go for a max deal even though he has the potential to be a max contract guy. Yes asik makes 14 million this season, but it’s for one year. It’s not like it goes past that. The lakers have the money to get him. I so if they can get rid of nash’s contract in the deal, do it. And no, they don’t put the lakers over the top, but they help the lakers to be competitive. Lastly, all of them become trade assets which the lakers currently do not have.

          • kookiebuger

            Okay let me break it down they trade Nash (10 million) for Asik (14 million), sign Lowry and Stephenson for 8-10 million (the amount they will be asking for) that’s 30-34 million right there plus Kobe’s 23.5 million, Sacre’s 1 million, and the 2014 1st round draft pick 1-3 million that’s 55-61.5 million on those 6 players who would barely make the team a playoff team, missing out on 2015 free agency and a potential star (if they tank) in next years draft. Do you see why this is a bad idea, now?

          • Computer Networking

            No I don’t see why. First, it’s reality. The lakers are going to go after Stephenson and possibly lowry. Asik would be a 14 million contract that would expire at the end of the season. He could only help during free agency via trade or just let him go and get the 14 million back. On top of that the salary cap goes up again to give more money to go towards signing another player. Therefore the lakers would still have somewhere around 20 million for free agency. I just don’t see the big deal.

          • kookiebuger

            It’s called cap holders, Gasol is a free agent but his contract is still on the books unless they renounce or resign him to a cheaper deal. It’s like I said the new CBA hurts trades the Lakers won’t get any thing to special in return. Good luck signing 6 other players under 10 million, good luck retaining Young,Bazemore,Farmer,etc. with that money. The Lakers can get these guys but good luck getting Stephenson and Lowry to play at a cheap price that won’t hurt the teams chances of getting Love,Marc Gasol,Aldridge,Irving,etc. in free agency next year and if the Lakers don’t get any of them, then what? They lose their (top 5 protected) pick to the Suns and wasted 2 years of their franchises history trying to prolong the rebuilding phase.

          • Computer Networking

            Cba rules states that you can only go over the cap if you resign a player or Draft picks, therefore, the lakers can use all of their cap and won’t get penalized for resigning all of the bench players the lakers have.

            Next, they could still get love because asik’s contract would be up. You could trade lowry for irving. Remember, you would have assets now. All of the other players you named goes into free agency once Kobe’s new contract is up so why wouldn’t you be able to sign one of them?

          • kookiebuger

            “For 2014-15 teams pay an incremental rate based on their team salary. They
            pay the repeater rate if they also were taxpayers in all of the previous
            three seasons.” So they will have to pay the luxury tax +the repeater tax for Young,Bazemore,Farmar, I doubt they’ll do that especially if they are waiting for 2015. A Lowry for Irving trade highly unlikely those 3 players (Lowry,Stephenson,Asik) won’t be enough to get a Durant, a Love, an Aldridge,etc. but other above average players.

          • Computer Networking

            Let’s be honest. Money 8 nothing for the lakers. They make 280 million off of time Warner Cable per year. Paying an extra 10 – 15 million is nothing.

          • Spitfire

            Asik’s $14M next year will only hit the Lakers or other team’s salary cap for only $7M if Asik is traded for example to the Lakers., it will only affect the Lakers cap with only half of it, not $14M

          • Computer Networking

            That is good information. That’s even more reason to go get him. 7 million for 1 year.

          • Spitfire

            Asik’s $14M next year will only hit the Lakers or other team’s salary cap for only $7M if Asik is traded for example to the Lakers., it will only affect the Lakers cap with only half of it, not $14M.

          • Chrmngblly

            We can’t get Stephenson and Lowrey for any amount of money. You act like everyone else’s players are all for sale and ready to run over to our dysfunctional franchise and work for a pothead.

            Anyway, Tyson Chandler was the only trade I could figure out. That is because we let the other guys win, too, by helping them get Gasol.

            If we can’t find anyone, lets get Pau back.

          • Computer Networking

            All I’m saying is that there are options. None of us know the ins and outs of this thing, but there is a way to make things happen. The lakers will always be an enticing place to play because it’s a big market team which not only benefits the lakers organization but the players as well.

            Yes, we would be helping the other team, but this is what you are going to have to do now due to the new cba rules.

          • Chrmngblly

            I agree, but that’s for Chandler, one guy. Stephenson and Lowrey have to WANT to come here–and they don’t. They are free agents.

          • Computer Networking

            I didn’t hear them say they didn’t want to come and I’m sure you haven’t heard that either. We will see what happens.

          • Chrmngblly

            Stevenson and Lowrey said they want to stay with their teams.

          • Computer Networking

            Howard said he wanted to stay with Orlando but he left. Irving stated on national news at an elementary school that he wants to stay with Cleveland but I bet you he is going to leave. It doesn’t matter what they say right now, there are no offers in front of them. Both will leave their teams be a use they are going to get more money.

          • Chrmngblly

            There are plenty of examples where a player leaves, but there are even more examples where players stay with their home team. The CBA is set up so that the home team has an advantage because they can pay more and for longer.

          • Computer Networking

            But they do leave. That’s the whole point. They say they are happy but many leave. Howard, lebron, stoudemire, love (who said he was happy at first), etc. Stephenson and lowry will do the same. Like I said, Paul George doesn’t want Stephenson back and he is suppose to be the franchise player. He will leave.

          • Chrmngblly

            Hmmm. Well shit in one hand and wish in the other and see which one fills up first. I hope all your dreams come true.

          • Computer Networking

            Lol. Dream? I don’t care what happens as long as we are competitive. Remember, me, you, and the rest of the lakers fans can only guess or suggest.

          • Chrmngblly

            Suggest? Mitch calls me all the time to ask me what to do next. The only trouble I’ve had is with that butt-hole, Jim Buss, tugging Mitch the other way all the time…..-)

          • comrade24

            True. The Nash and Howard trades ended up going south, but i don’t know many GM’s that wouldn’t have done the same thing. Until Nash came to LA, he was healthy and productive every season. I was beaming when i learned that my favorite non-Laker was coming to play for us. Howard, i never liked but i understood the team trading a oft-injured petulant Bynum for him. In their primes, to be honest, i thought Bynum was a better center overall. He had a polished offensive game which Howard will never have, and still was a good low post defender and shot blocker. To me, it all goes back to the Chris Paul debacle. The FO’s plan was to pair Paul with Howard and had it happened, who knows, we may have already raised banners 17 and 18 to the rafters. It started a chain reaction of events (Odom, Pau’s decline) that we’re still feeling the effects of.

          • Chrmngblly

            They say you have to know when to hold ‘em and know when to fold ‘em. This why Dr. Buss was so special. He either would have convinced Howard to buy-in or traded the giant vagina at the deadline. There were several teams that were dying to get their hands on Howard at the time, including the Rockets.

            Also, hiring MDA to coach Howard was the biggest coaching blunder of all time, really dumb. If JB had hired Phil, Howard would have stayed and then how different would the Lakers be today?

            Read all about it:

            http://THEDAILYSPORTSHERALDDOTBLOGSPOTDOTCOM/2014/03/JIM-BUSS-TIMELINE-AND-DECLINE-OF-LAKERSDOTHTML

            Substitute a dot for [DOT].

          • comrade24

            I totally agree they should have traded him at the deadline. There were suitors lined up and we could have gotten several great role players/draft picks at the time. We didn’t even shop him to find out exactly what we could get. Big Mistake. Also offering Nash a 3 year deal. BIG mistake for a guy will be 40 when his contract is finished. Now, hiring MDA was the last act of Dr. Buss. Can’t fault Jimbo for that one although i’m sure he encouraged the idea given that he always felt snubbed by Phil. Of course D’Antoni was a huge mistake but i understand why they didn’t hire Phil. What i don’t understand is why they baited him with the job and then gave it to D’Antoni. THAT was not cool. I understand them not hiring Phil because he would have a hard time coaching the team with his ailing health. You could even tell the last season he was with the team that it wasn’t the same Phil. Phil, at best would have been a short term solution and i think they were looking at long term plans. Of course, that didn’t work out either.

          • Chrmngblly
        • truthhurts

          Don’t forget the wonderful deal Kupcake gave the Suns in the Nash trade: 2 first round & 2 second round picks. Only Kupcake would negotiate in favor of the opposing team instead of his own team.

          • Chrmngblly

            That’s Jim Buss. Phil told them not to do it.

          • J Taylor

            Truth hurts – If the lakers HAD kept Howard and Nash was the player they expected, what good are 1st round picks at the end of the order (#32), and 2nd round picks in the 60′s.

            To the lakers, assuming they are winning, Draft picks really mean nothing.

            What good are the Heat 1st round picks for the last 3 seasons?

        • wn

          Yup…..Im a die hard fan for since the days of West Chamberlain as a kid but this is truly a black hole dug deper by the likes of David Stern (CP3) and made worse by Jimmy “the dope” Buss. This guy is a disgrace to what his Daddy accomplished when he was alive. RIP Dr Buss.
          No assets … only a possible sign and trade for Gasol and thats only if Gasol agrees to it and to the amount of the signing and length of the contract.
          This, at best, will be a 3 year second round playoff exit imo. Deng wants way too much $$. Melo is going to be 30. He gets hurt a lot already and doesnt nearly have the threshold for pain like Kobe. Buss should have traded Gasol for even some draft choices instead of being faced with 0. He is a dope. Got nothing for Howard signed Kobe for 48 million and will most likely lose Gasol for nothing too. He still wins tho with the cable TV $$ but not us fans. We get squat again. Mitch is a puppet. The days of Mr West are gone. He saw the handwriting on the wall with Jimmy Buss. Lets face it the new kid in town are the Clippers hands down.

      • VillainKing

        Correct we can sign big name players in 2014 free agency and we have a high draft pick in this 2014 NBA draft so we can surely get back on track..Just don’t trade the pick Lakers keep it always!!!

        • comrade24

          the main thing this season is to make the playoffs while still maintaining flexibility for next offseason. If we can do this we’ll look like a much more attractive destination for free agents like Kevin Love, Kyrie, etc… Players want to play on a winning team that they can make better. I believe this is achievable with just a few moves. Selecting the right player in the draft, hiring the right coach, being frugal but effective in free agency, and praying to the basketball gods that Kobe can remain healthy and play atleast a semi kobe level.

      • LakerfansinceNickyVan

        The fact that we have cap space doesnt mean that mitch should spend it. I dont want B caliber free agents getting A type money. Its not wise to just use the space just because some fans and Kobe are impatient. I’m willing to ride it out and get some pieces that are worth it. Whether kobe is here or not when we get to championship level, its going to be a few yrs.

      • Chrmngblly

        Like who?

        • comrade24

          Luol Deng for starters. He’s not a max player, not going to instantly vault us into the Western Conference championship, but he’s an elite defender at an important position, a viable #2/3 option on offense, and a great building piece for a future championship team. Factor that in with a quality young draft pick and you’ve got a good start.

    • Tune

      If we got Irving or Love it still would be a rebuilding process. Neither play defense, giving us no rim protection. Can’t think of any rim protectors that will be FAs in 2014.

      • TheTruthKills

        True, but at least we’d have young building blocks to start with. Who are our building blocks for the future now? Who’ll be here leading us 5 years from now?

      • Bird2410

        I think they should have a look at Andrew Bogut decent shot blocker above average defensive rounder

        • comrade24

          He’s a great player but he’s very injury prone, also on a max deal i believe and not worth it.

      • comrade24

        Marcin Gortat will be a FA this offseason

        • Chrmngblly

          Not for very long. He will be re-signed, although I can’t see why, myself.

          • comrade24

            Looking at Washingtons situation, i tend to agree. I think they’re more likely to let Ariza walk than Gortat as they already have two other players signed at the 3 position, and both players will command a larger contract this offseason.

        • Tune

          Yeah, but I don’t think he’s going to come to LA honestly. He’s most likely going to stay with the Wizards or go to the Celtics. Him and Rondo with the pick and roll with most likely Gordon on their roster playing defense to make up for his defense against more athletic bigs would be much more attractive to him. John Wall is a rising star and Rondo has plenty of years left with the Celtics having a good draft pick.

    • Computer Networking

      There is always a quick fix available and I don’t know how you don’t see that. For decades the lakers have done quick fixes and no one complained because it worked. There are one year contracts that the lakers could get to be competitive like asik. He is young, defensive minded, and runs the floor. He gives the lakers one year and also becomes a trade asset. Lowry would be a long term deal if they went that route but would still be a trade asset. All the front office wants is to keep their flexibility for the next 2 seasons so the can go after players like durant and aldridge. That is definitely possible along with staying competitive. They have 28 million to spend right now. 37 if they can get rid of nash. I think that’s enough to make a quick fix hapoen.

      • TheTruthKills

        “For decades we….”. That was a different era. Most of our reputation comes from the Dr. Buss era. Under the the siblings we have a negative reputation among the league. We’re seen as a poorly run franchise. As far as your ideas go:

        -Asik is still under contract with the Rockets. They’ll be looking to package him in a trade with Lin to make room for Melo. We don’t have the assets to make that happen.
        -We will probably be drafting Smart, Lavine, or Exum (if he falls). That negates the need for Lowry, who has said he loves Toronto and would like to stay.
        -Why would Aldridge leave Lillard? Portland is on the rise and can start competing for titles as soon as next year.
        -Durant is the longest of long shots. If he wins a title he won’t be leaving. If he does decide to leave OKC he’ll want to step into a situation where he could immediately win (Like LeBron did when he went to Miami).

        Your strategy is contingent on free agent success, but we haven’t landed a marquee free agent since Shaq nearly 20 years ago. On top of that we’re being run by Jim Buss now, not his father. No top tier player wants to play for a poorly run team with inept leadership. Successful teams have successful leadership like we had with Dr. Buss/Jerry West, Miami with Pat Riley, the Spurs with RC Buford, etc.

        • Computer Networking

          One thing we agree on is that the siblings is not the great Dr buss.

          Houston wants to go after carmelo. They are not looking to package the Lin and asik because just like last season, they will get no suitors. On top of that, Houston is over the cap. Trading nash for asik would put them under the cap. This is something that they would go for because no one else is going to pick up a one year 14 million contract.

          Personally, I doubt that the lakers will pick anyone, but I could be wrong. It just depends on who is available.

          Lowry is not going to stay with toronto. They don’t want to pay lowry more than 6 million. He will leave and the lakers have been interested in him for a last few years.

          Durant is a long shot, but they won’t win a championship because their fo won’t throw money at a big man that can help ibaka.

          I also believe that the lakers are going to get Stephenson from indiana.

          We agree on some things, but I do believe there is a quick fix.

          • kookiebuger

            Correction, the Raptors don’t want to pay Lowry more then 10 million which he doesn’t deserve.

          • Computer Networking

            No, they don’t want to pay lowry more than what he makes now and that’s 6.2 million

          • Chrmngblly

            Believing there is a quick fix is what sells tickets.

          • Chrmngblly

            According to the CBA, all these proposed trades have to have matching salaries with a certain percent. Nash’s contract, alone, will not get us anybody. You cannot trade a $9.7M guy for a $14M guy. Not legal.

          • Computer Networking

            Ok, so add another or throw them 2.5 million per year which would cover the percentage. I gave a possible solution. The lakers fo can make it happen.

          • Chrmngblly

            I am sure Mitch is looking into every possible player. Remember, too, that there are other teams out there that could want to compete with us for these guys.

          • Chrmngblly

            So I figured Pau’s new salary plus Nash should equal Tyson Chandler and Hardaway. That would be sweet.

          • Tune

            I think OKC has the brightest future. KD improving every year, WB getting smarter as he realizes his role, Ibaka is great and improving, and I’m sure they’ll get rid of Perkins asap since he does more harm than good for that team. Adams and Lamb have nice upside, so I can easily see them starting at some point. Adams just needs more experience since he’s already solid now and Lamb just needs experience as well as improve his defense more.

          • truthhurts

            Siblings are not great…you hit it spot on…especially the two siblings in control used to be boyfriend and girlfriend…yikes

        • Chrmngblly

          You are so right. Right now we have to draft a big as our most pressing need. If Gordon or Vonleh is available, I think we have to take him. Otherwise, we trade down, if we can, to get two picks.

          There is also the huge batch of guys that will not be drafted. Possibly we can pluck a sleeper out of the trash–like Bazemore. The trouble is Jim Buss fired all our professional scouts and replaced them with his bartender pals. This nepotism is killing us.

        • comrade24

          I would say that Pau Gasol was a marquee free agent at the time he was signed. That was a free agent coup and saved the franchise from a potential long drawn out rebuild, not to mention losing our franchise cornerstone. Now, i agree A LOT has changed since then. Dr. Buss is gone, the new CBA essentially punishes teams like the Lakers and helps out the Milwaukee Bucks of the world, but it can still be done. While yeah, Jimbo isn’t so impressive, i still think Mitch carries a lot of weight and can broker some nice FA deals for us. I agree with you that people need to stop looking for that quick fix, but disagree where it comes to a long term rebuild. We need to select the right player in the draft, hire the right coach, and make smart FA signings that will get us into the playoffs. That will be a task in itself, but that should be the goal this season. Make the playoffs. If that happens, we’re a much more attractive destination for max players next offseason. I unlike many, think Kobe will be fine. He’s proven many times that he can adjust his game as he’s gotten older. He’s said the achilles is fine. He was showing flashes of his old self last season and that was with no training camp and incompetent coach. If Kobe can be 75% of the player he was before, a playoff birth is not out of the realm of possibility this season.

          • Tune

            I definitely think we can contend within the next 2 years. Definitely after Kobe’s contract expires, assuming he’s healthy. Can get Kobe for cheap with him still putting up solid numbers since he’s changed his game as he’s gotten older.

          • TheTruthKills

            Pau was traded for (Mitch’s last great trade) and we went straight to the Finals. We showed Pau we could win championships immediately. But then again that was a different era as Dr. Buss was still leading us. Selecting the right players in the draft, hiring the right coach, and making smart FA signings are what every team should do (and will be striving to do). However I don’t think we’ll be making the playoffs next year. I don’t see the point in throwing money at players for a swift first round exit at the hands of the Thunder, Blazers, Clippers, or Rockets. If they can’t contribute to the team beyond next season then they don’t need to be here. As far as Kobe goes, he has to show me. I’m not believing anything that is said about him until shows he can still do it.

          • LAstory

            You make some perfectly good points, but going back and forth with thetruthkills is like going back and forth with Daryl Peek or Hookon… which I believe thetruthkills is actually after all the “predictions” they made blew up in their faces… they go away and come back with a new avatar and name but cant help but use the same verbiage and useless facts to back their ridiculous points…. but again comrade24, you’ve made some good points… we all will see what happens with Kyrie, the 7th pick and head coach in just a matter of weeks… July 1, if Kyrie doesn’t sign he’ll be traded to the team he wants to go to (because he will have to be willing to resign with that team)… and as far as free agency it will pan itself out as well… and Lakers Nation is reporting that Scott and Hollins are the two leads to be HC… so I firmly believe that the Lakers will be contenders, once you make it to the playoffs… it just like boxing, styles of play come into the equation…. the Lakers are year or two away from getting back… with free agency problems for GSW, Blazers… Chris Paul getting a bit older and the uncertain dynamic of that roster, OKC needing to find a low post player of can score and a desperate need for a pg who can facilitate that offense, The Lakers aren’t too far off bro..

        • Tune

          Don’t forget we landed Howard. As much as Laker fans want to hate him for whatever reason, he’s not the reason we were a first round exit. Our franchise player got a horrible injury and he was out half the season with back issues as well as Nash being purely too old for his contract. Howard showed in Rockets postseason that he’s still a great player. It was just unfortunate that he didn’t give it time (though it was the best choice easily at the time, not knowing Harden would choke so bad).

          • TheTruthKills

            We traded for Howard. We didn’t sit him down, tell him why LA was the right choice, and then signed him long term. But at the end of the day you made my point. No one wants to play for a poorly run franchise, and players want to win now. That’s why he left to Houston to team up with the best shooting guard in the league.

          • Tune

            If Kobe comes back healthy then I think things will change. Just like I think if we fired D’antoni sooner we could’ve retained Howard. From what I heard he wanted to play for Phil, which I wish happened. If we had the triangle offense I think we could’ve made it further. Not blaming D’antoni for Kobe’s injury, but I don’t think running his offense for one of the oldest teams in the NBA was smart.

          • TheTruthKills

            Howard also wanted to be the face of the franchise, and judging by how things have gone so far we should have made him the face. As far as Kobe goes, I’ll believe he’s back when I see it for myself. I don’t care about his work ethic or his past history. He has to show me.

          • truthhurts

            I blame D’Antoni for Kobe’s injury. Kobe played 47 minutes for 7 straight games, he went down 3 three times during that game with a leg injury before he torn the ACL, and D’Antoni never took him out. D’Antoni said he allowed Kobe to play that many minutes because Kobe guaranteed those wins, he was laughing with that smirk, during post game interview said if Kobe guaranteed the wins, he’s got to back it up. Only a coach like him would laugh when his top player gets injured like that. But I blame Kobe too trying to be superman.

          • LAstory

            I recall the front office, along with Kobe (reluctantly) meeting with Howard… Howard never wanted to play for the Lakers… It was Brooklyn and it had always been Brooklyn… Howard coming to the Lakers was a means out of Orlando due to the fiasco he caused by throwing SVG under the bus and getting caught lying on tv. How are the Lakers a poorly ran organization when they tried by trading for Howard, bringing in Nash, to go with Kobe and Gasol… I guess it’s the FO fault for Nash breaking his leg, Kobe injury, Howard’s back, Gasol’s injuries.. MDA can be blamed and that’s why he’s gone.. And you don’t believe Harden is the best shooting guard in the League, when he was a no-show in the finals with OKC and has been less than “the best shooting guard” by the Rockets PO performance. Houston will be a 2/3 round out every year because of Harden and Howard’s… but I digress, Hook or Daryl… you can change your name but you still use other useless facts about other teams, players and eras that have nothing to do with this Lakers team and/or players. sad, bro just plain sad..

          • TheTruthKills

            Is it the front office’s fault for injuries? No, but they knew who they were getting in bed with. They knew Nash was old and benefited greatly from the Suns medical staff. They knew Howard had a back injury before the trade happened. They knew MDA’s coaching style before he was hired. How are we a poorly run franchise? Besides what I mentioned before, because our great leader makes impulse decisions based on his ego and not actual basketball acumen. Because our brilliant front office hands out idiotic contracts to players without seeing if they’re healthy yet. I guess that’s excellent decision making for you right? And Harden is the best shooting guard in the league whether you care to admit it or not. And I like how you can tell the future of the Rockets and when they will be eliminated. Nostradamus ain’t got nothing on you. But let’s get back on topic. I want to believe that you have a shred of basketball knowledge but clearly you do not. To make up for your absent knowledge you have to accuse me of being other posters in an open comment section on a website. That is what really is sad. But by all means, please continue to get your lies off in a sad attempt to boost your obviously fragile self-esteem. Have a nice day.

          • LAstory

            Not even going to respond to your first part of your ramblings and babble… Harden isn’t the best 2 guard in the NBA, maybe in YOUR nba fantasy world… And Nostradamus doesn’t have anything on me…. Yet you pontificated on numerous post predicting on how long it will take the Lakers to be back in championship form……..Pot meet Kettle…… it’s blatantly clear you’re highly emotional and sensitive and that would give me any and all indication that you don’t have a clue of knowledge concerning this game and what you claim to know… as I’ve read your post they’re laughable at best. Oh and excuse me for confusing you with two other uneducated Laker fans… if it walks like a…well you know the rest.. fragile low self esteem… please don’t use the mirroring effect because it makes you look desperate, pathetic and throwing out insults due to you not having anything relevant to say so you fall back to mundane words and phrases such as “fragile self -esteem” to feel that you “got me with that one” maybe that’s what you’re shooting for…far be it for me to call you out on it, what ever gets you through your day and gives you that warm fuzzy feeling inside bro… smh, anyway you said wrote a lot yet said nothing at all…. and my day is great.. lovin this LA weather… p.s just in case it went over your head, which I’m sure it did… notice I didn’t mention hardly anything concerning the Lakers… because you, your post about the Lakers and I’m sure an self serving response that you’ll rush to write back will be comical. And honestly I couldn’t careless what your pointless opinions about the Lakers FO, players or fans… and I’ll extend the well wishes for the rest of your day, sir.

          • LakerLore

            You ladies play nice now.

          • LAstory

            Touché…lol.. back to Laker business…

          • LakerLore

            It wasn’t even that serious bro

          • Dino Madness

            Part of the reason Dwight left was because he got Mike D’Antoni when he wanted Phil Jackson. Unfortunately Jim Buss is destroying the Lakers from within.

          • truthhurts

            The minute Little Jimmy hired D’Antoni, he destroyed the Lakers short term future. Everything now is a subsequent result of that hire.

        • SD

          i feel what you are saying…but no one thought the lakers could pull of the trade for CP3 or Dwight Howard. Now, one trade was nixed. What happened when Dwight was here was a massacre mainly because of injuries. It was the worst possible scenario. That is unlikely to repeat itself. The draft is super important, but it’s not the only way to have a successful team. The Heat are an example of just that and so were the Lakers teams. If the Lakers got just 1 big name guy in the next 2 summers, it could/would make this team competitive…and with other signings/draft pick…the team could be a contender. You just never know. the Spurs could be out of the playoffs next season…Pop/Duncan/Ginobli are very near the end. No one thought the Lakers could even trade for Nash. No, it didn’t work out but everyone including analysts thought that team was a contender. Without having a coach fired after 5 games and injuries galore, maybe they would have been. We don’t know.

          Things change in the NBA like the wind blows. Only 2 teams have won championships since the Lakers last won. Look at the Mavs…went from contenders to…wha? It happens.

          • TheTruthKills

            The Mavs are a good cautionary story to learn from. They won a championship and then tried to rely on free agency to build there team up. Where are they now? NBA no mans land where they aren’t a contender, but they’re not terrible. Yeah we traded for CP3 and Howard, but now both are on championship contending teams in our conference. Also, don’t compare us to the Heat. They have Pat Riley calling the shots, while we have…..Jim Buss. Huge difference there. Pat Riley has coached and built dynasties. Jim Buss has destroyed legacies. As for the Spurs, do you know how long people have said they’re done? They’re always around because they’e built the right way. Their players sacrifice for the team and look where they are now. And even if Pop/Duncan retire we still have to go through the Clippers, Rockets, Blazers, Warriors, Thunder, Suns, and Grizzlies. That’s 7 teams better than we are or will be next season.

            Things do change in the league, but there’re two forces that dictate the direction of the wind. Their names are LeBron James and Kevin Durant.

          • Tune

            I imagine Spurs will be done by the time we contend. OKC, Clippers, and Warriors are biggest threats in my opinion. Blazers need a better bench and Rockets need Harden to play good defense since at this point he’s a liability.

      • kookiebuger

        Lowry isn’t coming to the Lakers he already stated he likes it in Toronto the only reason why he would leave is if the Lakers offered him a max, which would be foolish. The new CBA basically hurts trades that’s why there hasn’t been any big trades in over 2 years and that’s why teams are a lot more reluctant to give away a 1st round draft picks unless they’re contenders. Durant and Aldridge more then likely aren’t coming to the Lakers especially when their teams situation is better then the Lakers plus the Lakers owe most of their success to the great Dr. Buss, the earliest the team will be a playoff team will probably be 2015-2016 that’s if everything goes right with this years draft, possibly next years, and free agency.

        • Computer Networking

          Tell me how many players have said that they were happy and left. Toronto doesn’t want to pay lowry more the 6 million. Lowry stated that he is happy but he is going to do what’s best for his family. That was his entire statement. He is going after more money and Toronto is not going to give it to him. I would personally give lowry and Stephenson 9 million a piece. Indiana and Toronto are not going to go this high. If this happens, the lakers should do one of two things.

          1. Try to send nash to Houston for asik. Houston is over the salary cap right now and this trade would put them under the cap.

          2. Conduct a. Sign and trade with new York knicks. Gasol for chandler. Jackson wants a big man who knows the triangle so he would do what he have to to get him. He has already stated that he is interested in gasol. If he wants him bad enough, he would possibly give up hardaway which would be huge for the lakers.

          3. Draft Gordon for the pf position which would give the lakers some athleticism at that position or trade the pick and hill for faried from denver. Denver is just waiting for the right offer.

          It is possible to be competitive for next season. We will see what happens

          • kookiebuger

            Lowry had one good season with a shaky past do you honestly believe he deserves more money then Curry,Rondo,Lawson,and Holiday? Stephenson is okay but some other team will over pay for him like the Hornets. The first trade isn’t bad but I’m not sure if the Rockets would agree to that, I doubt Gasol will go to New York and it doesn’t make sense to have Chandler and Asik and Gordon or Faried won’t suddenly push the team over the edge making them a playoff team.

          • Chrmngblly

            I think he means one or the other, Kook. Regardless, you need Nash’s contract to make either trade work. Also, he doesn’t seem to know that there are rules under the CBA that govern all trades.

          • Computer Networking

            I wasn’t saying to get all of those players, I was just giving options. Chandler or asik. The lakers have rebounding issues and wasn’t being physical on the defensive side of the ball. On each of these players will give the lakers that. Faried would accommodate either of those with his hustle and rebounding on both ends of the floor. As far as lowry goes, since 2009 he has been a consistent player. He is worth the 9 million. He has been shooting 40 percent and above from the field and from 3 point range sine 2009. This season has just been his best overall season. Lowry kobe and Stephenson along with asik and faried would do some damage.

          • kookiebuger

            So you want Kyle Lowry with a history of alienating coaches and rubbing some teammates the wrong way, Stephenson who is just unpredictable, and Kobe all on the same team? .That sounds like a ticking time bomb.I prefer getting Smart instead of Lowry who would be cheaper and can
            learn from Nash to be a better facilitator and Kobe who can help him
            improve his offensive game. Faried isn’t a great defender, he’s just good in transition and for rebounds same with Gordon (much better defender). Houston values Asik at a stupid high market value they wanted 2 1st round picks for him earlier in the year, I doubt their front office will be willing to trade Asik for Nash in the hopes that Melo might sign with them, they aren’t risk takers.

          • Computer Networking

            Yes I would like them all on the same team. Stephenson has been consistent, but has a bad attitude. Did you pay attention to see if there were any improvements because I didn’t see him blow up once during the playoffs. I saw him focusing on the game and nothing else. Yes, lowry have a history. So does kobe. He had a history since he won his first ring, but I’m sure you didn’t talk about trading him. Houston cares nothing about asik. They wanted to get a lot for asik, but they now know that they will have to drop their price so substantially because no one is going to pay that price. Plus asik doesn’t want to be there. He made that very clear.

          • kookiebuger

            Just read my above comment.

          • Tune

            Don’t underestimate what the power of a bunch of knuckleheads on a team can do. It will make them competitive with extra motivation. Just like I think if we bring Bynum back Kobe can keep him in check. He won’t work on teams like Cavs, 76ers, or Pacers since honestly, those teams are pretty soft. 76ers are too young, Pacers are mentally weak, and Cavs leader is too young.

          • J Taylor

            Why would you want to help Houston build a Big-3?
            I don’t get it….
            “Let’s help them get a player who would change the entire NBA landscape and a player who wants to go there.”

            If we traded for Asik and freed up Houston from Cap Jail, wouldn’t it set us back 4-5 years as Houston dominates the conference?

    • SD

      It’s certainly going to be a rebuild, but it doesn’t have to be long and painful. lol There will be a ton of guys as free agents in 2015…there is no way around that. Some will be UFA’s and others RFAs. Those guys and this year’s draft pick or picks, will have this team competitive by the 2015 season and they could be a playoff team that year or even a contender.

      The Lakers aren’t in a mess lol A mess is what the Knicks and Nets are in. The Lakers are a huge market team that will always have a draw. This is a franchise that has a top 10 pick as well as tons of cap space the next 2 summers. The pendulum swings quickly in the nba from good to bad and bad to good. You never know. The new CBA makes that more difficult, but cap space is always a good thing to have. It’s not the end of the world. There will be players available for the Lakers to got after the next 2 summers….and amassing prospects will help them be players in trades as well. The Lakers will likely get at least 2-4 of the players I’ve listed.

      There are pieces available in this FA class too. (Hinrich, CDR, Deng, Aaron Brooks, Marion, Greg Monroe, Parsons, Evan Turner, Stephenson, D. Collison, Patrick Patterson, Rudy Gay, Patty Mills (has earned a contract), Sessions, Ariza, Gortat, Hayward, Lowry.

      2015 UFAs: The Heatles if they all opt in this year, Love (PO), Aldridge, Rondo, B. Lopez (PO), Al Jefferson (PO), Lin, Asik, Deandre Jordan, Marc Gasol, Afflalo (PO), Dragic (PO), Amir Johnson

      2015 RFAs: (some of these teams will be over the cap and can/will they keep these guys?) Kyrie Irving, Reggie Jackson, Enes Kanter, Kawhi Leonard (will SA give him the max?), Tobias Harris, Vucevic, Shumpert, Rubio, Brandon Knight, Klay Thompson, Draymond Green, Faried, Jimmy Butler, Kemba Walker.

      Who could the Lakers go after in this year’s class? Aaron Brooks…he’d be a great option for a 1 year deal, and he’s looking for a chance to get real minutes. He will here in LA. Ariza/Deng could fit…maybe you go after Parsons. He’d be great in LA.

      The draft is crucial to all of this, too. Do the Lakers trade down for 2 picks or 2 picks and a role player? It’s very possible.

      • TheTruthKills

        You say we’re not in a mess because we’re in a large market, yet say the Knicks and Nets are despite being in the largest market in the world? What? We have zero assets, few draft picks, and broken franchise player, inept FO leadership, and we’re not in a mess? Okay.
        Also you put a whole lot of faith in FA seeing how we haven’t landed a big name free agent in nearly 20 years. It’s a different NBA now. Not just the CBA, but players are also thinking differently. Players want to win. They want to be in a winning situation. If they don’t believe a team can provide that for them then they won’t play there. It doesn’t matter if you’re the Lakers or the Milwaukee Bucks whoever is the better run franchise will land the key players. It’s the new wave. If Jim Buss doesn’t get his act together we’ll be in trouble.
        You may not like it, you may not want to admit it, but this rebuild will happen. It will be long. It will be painful.

        • SD

          You do realize that the Knicks and Nets have no financial flexibility and no assets? And GM’s/Owners who have proven nothing? You also realize the Nets have older players and injury prone players. The Knicks are in the same boat…and they barely had a better record than these Lakers playing in the Eastern Conference.

          No, the Lakers aren’t in a mess in the grand scheme of things. They have a great opportunity to sign a good head coach and bring in a #7 pick. I don’t trust Jim Buss yet. I don’t know what he can or can’t do.

          Mitch Kupchak has been making great moves for some years now, and I have quite a bit of faith in him. Most of the players he’s drafted and brought in via trades have been productive players.

          I disagree with you. I respect what you’re saying. Have the coaching decisions been suspect? Yes, but the injuries have been the biggest story by far in my opinion. I think maybe the lakers should consider an upgrade to the training staff if anything.

          The Mavs are a well-run franchise with a REALLY good coach. Do you think Deron chose the Nets who really had no better of a team at that point because of how well run the franchise was? Did Melo choose the Knicks because of how well run the franchise was? No. lol Neither team had a ton prospects. Sure, the Knicks had Amare…but Melo went because it was NYC.

          The thing that makes things tricky is the CBA because teams with bird rights can offer more money…and players are generally loyal.

          Having cap-space allows the lakers to take on big 1 year deals from teams in big trades or trades for assets.

          I don’t think it will be long or painful. I just hope for Kobe’s health and to watch him finish his career in good health/playing at a good level. I don’t expect a championship these next 2 years, but I think this team could be a contender by fall 2016. Just my feelings.

        • J Taylor

          Havent landed a big name free agent in nearly 20 years?
          What are: Pau (3 championship appearances), Howard, CP3(failed)?

          As I recall, in 2004 the team failed to the Detroit Pistons… and in the 10 years since went to the championship 3 times… and traded for Pau, Howard, and a failed trade for CP3.

          The “free agency” card is stale bro. If all trades are graded against Shaq, then every GM in the game is a failure.

  • lakers_824

    TO THE LAKERS: “Do something and do it now” – Kobe Bryant

    • wildrover4

      What are they suppose to do?

      • RM

        Kobe won’t say that. He got paid to stfu

        • truthhurts

          Yeah Kobe all along said Lakers gave him tge extension and there was no negotiations, but AM 710 reported Kobe’s agent initiated the negotiation. The Lakers started at $15 million, they went back and forth for several weeks before settling on the final numbers at $24 mil. Punk ass Kobe was lying to everyone cause there’s no way he was going to look like the bad guy on this. Kobe is as deceptive as they come when it comes to protect his own interest.

          • TheTruthKills

            I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: Kobe would rather lose his way then win someone else’s way. It’s his way or no way.

          • LAL

            Do you have the link where AM 710 reported that the Lakers offered $15M to Kobe? I would love to read it.

          • LAstory

            There isn’t such a report, he is lying… Kobe was making 28 million the pervious year and the Lakers are going to have him take more than half of a pay cut… and pay him less than Chris Bosh…

          • LAstory

            That’s a lie…. Mitch and The Buss family came to Kobe with that offer (which is less than what he could have gotten). Kobe, Mitch, Jennie and Jim have all said multiple times that there wasn’t any negation what so ever… you can or anyone can google that and its reported in the LA Times as well as other media outlets. The gave Kobe that Contract with the thought process of sign another free agent… Kobe WAS the other free agent the wanted to sign… so please stop lying, most Laker fans here do our research and know BS when we see it.

  • Layden

    Yup he is staying.

  • punky

    Irving and #1pick for Gasol

    • wildrover4

      I think the Grizzlies would probably have to add Conley to make that work.

    • Tune

      In a dream world

  • j.thekidd

    Smart or Gordon

  • edy

    this organization bein run by jim buss its kind off hard to have hope for this coming up years shit he’s messed up by signing mike brown and d antoni and letting go howard for not cuting the antoni cord i have faith because I’m a fan in all but gosh this jim buss is quite a f**k up

  • pooh

    Kyrie not Goin to the Lakers!! So stop reporting what’s going on over here thanks

  • Frank Lyons

    Noah Vonleh. If not hm, Smart, or Gordon.

  • wangkon936

    Why all this talk about Stevenson in this thread? Don’t people know that Stevenson and Kobe play the same position?

    • J Taylor

      Yeah… and who takes over Kobe’s position in 2 years?

      I wonder if Stephenson could also be a PG/SG beside Kobe.

  • Daniel Hart

    Kyrie would be a great addition if you can get him, since you would be able to get him and only pay a young superstar about 9 mil a year until 2016 and with kyrie and kobe I think a lot of the A free agents will consider the lakers for sure !!!! If you trade for him, he is better and still really young and cheap and he will be better and more of a sure thing than any of those guys we would pick in this draft!!!!.

  • LakerLore

    Well then. Those are the breaks. What’s the next dream player we want?

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