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NBA News: Phil Jackson Has ‘Reservations’ About Leaving California

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All indications seem to point to 11-time NBA champion Phil Jackson taking the front-office job with the New York Knicks. Jackson has been mulling the offer to accept a role with the Knicks for the past few days, but does have one thing holding him back from such a move.

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Apparently, Jackson loves living in Manhattan Beach with Los Angeles Lakers executive Jeanie Buss. Moving to New York and away from Buss has Jackson hesitant according to Marc Berman of the New York Post:

A source said Jackson has reservations about such a move because he loves living in Manhattan Beach, Calif., with his fiancée, Lakers executive Jeanie Buss.

With Jackson seemingly prepared to get back to work in some capacity, it may be only a matter of time before he’s fully convinced to take the job with the Knicks.

Despite the fact things appear to be progressing well between the Knicks and Jackson, Lakers fans have a first-hand account of being let down at the last minute when the 11-time NBA champion is involved.

Unfortunately, the Lakers missed out on an opportunity to bring back Jackson for a third stint with the storied franchise. Now the Lakers front office can only watch as arguably the greatest head coach of our time potentially heads to New York to help rebuild another storied franchise from the ground up.

It’ll be interesting to see the transition made by Jackson in terms of leaving Los Angeles for the Big Apple. Jackson has always had a soft spot for New York and seemed intent on returning one day, but his pending marriage with Buss may make things incredibly complicated and possibly a conflict of interest.
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  • Trey

    Stephen A. Smith reported today on First Take on ESPN that Mike D’Antoni will be fired at the end of the season.2 Strong sources that are in LA are telling Smith MDA is gone.I am pulling for Phil Jackson to stay with the Lakers and take over this sinking ship.Mike D’Antoni is a terrible coach and he needs to be fired ASAP.

    • 3339

      That would be great.

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    • DJ

      I was about to say the same Trey, and if you watch MDA in his pressers you can tell he knows this will be it for him and he seems fine with it. He seems to be a good guy, yet his refusal to change or adapt his coaching style has hurt him since leaving the suns… he’ll coach again, not in the NBA but I believe he’ll go back to coaching in the Euro League.. where that style is played today.. and I think one of the sources is Kobe Bryant…

      • ra

        MDA appeared to be retired when originally recruited by Lakers. He had surgery at the beginning of that basketball year (2012), which even prevented him from starting as head coach for at least a month. He was intending to spend the year recovering from the surgery, and maybe more. He was surprised the Lakers recruited him, actually.

        So, even though he could come back to another team in the NBA some time in the future, I’m guessing that he would want some time off after this, um, horrendous experience for him. He didn’t have a star PG (c.f., Steve Nash) to push his coaching style, and also had some of the greatest bigs in the NBA (DH, Pau) who are ‘definitely’ not players in his style of basketball.

        Euro league would prob. only be an option if he wanted to re-locate to Italy (or another EU country) and spend time there for a while. I’m sure his family would enjoy the time there, and many teams there would welcome his style of play.

        • DJ

          Totally agree with that statement ra, MDA had endured a lot… sometime off would be good for him…

        • hookedonnews

          Most of the teams in the league are using his system. Don’t know why he would have to go to Europe to coach if he wanted to do that. I agree that this experience in LA has not been a good one, but mostly because the team has been deluged with injuries since he arrived and the fan base and certain pundits have been less than fair to him (an understatement). I’ll be surprised if he’s fired, but I was also surprised when George Karl and Lionel Hollins were fired (although I realize those situations were quite different). I think the fan base in LA is gaining a reputation which makes LA a less inviting destination. We should be careful what we wish for because sometimes change is not for the better.

          • Daryl Peek

            PREACH

          • fakerstolakers

            He did have Blake Kobe Pau DH last year. That’s a pretty good team don’t you think if you know how to use it. That’s 3 Max contract player on the same team.

          • hookedonnews

            Blake missed 37 games with an abdominal injury and went down in the playoffs with a hamstring. Pau came into the season with bad knees and plantar fasciitis. He missed 33 games and was never 100%. Howard had not recovered from the back surgery, had a torn shoulder muscle, and refused to run pick and rolls. They also had the worst bench in the league. With all that they still made the playoffs, but without Kobe, Nash, Blake, MWP, and Meeks who were all out before the playoff series was over, they had no chance to get past the Spurs. They had a 28-12 run at the end of the year when they had most of their players on the court (although they weren’t all 100%). Yes, they had some (theoretically) great players, but they couldn’t overcome the injuries. They were using a guy out of the D-League to play SG and their 3rd string PG in the playoffs. If everyone had been healthy they might have actually beaten the Spurs because they were playing well at the end of the season.

    • ra

      It seems like PJ is leveraging this position, in order to try to get something with the Lakers. Even if the Lakers fired D’Antoni, would PJ be a good fit for a team without superstars (except Kobe, of course)? He helps marquee players rise to (and exceed) the level of their potential, as part of a basketball team.

      If he didn’t ‘care’ about championships with the existing personnel, then I’m sure living his potentially last run as a coach would be fine with a team like the Lakers. Then again, perhaps another big, or marquee player would be attracted to coming to the Lakers, knowing that PJ was going to be the coach. They may not enjoy all aspects of his style, but would definitely be on track for a Championship with a world brand team like the Lakers.

      It would be a good move on their part to recruit PJ, but that would mean that Jim Buss essentially concedes to his sister. I’m confident that will never happen, and the Lakers could be headed toward years of mediocrity if they don’t consider all options.

      • hookedonnews

        PJ is not going to coach again. He’s not physically up to the job. He doesn’t even plan to go to NY if he takes the Knicks FO job. He’s going to do it from home. You can’t coach an NBA team from home. Phil Jackson has never gone to a team that was not ready to make a run at a championship. This team is rebuilding. Even if he was healthy, he wouldn’t be interested in this job right now. He would like a FO job, but I don’t see him being offered one in LA.

        I don’t think the Lakers are headed for years of mediocrity. They will be getting a great young player through the draft to go along with the core of young players they have now. Then they’ll add some top players through free agency in 2015 and 2016. Yes, it’s going to take at least a couple of years to get back to the top, but for most teams it takes a lot longer. Fans are just going to have to be patient, and quit believing that the arrival of Phil Jackson would cure all ills. Not happening, and wouldn’t guarantee success immediately in any case.

        • Chrmngblly

          I had to wait a long time for you to say something I could agree with, hook. I waited though. I never want you to feel like I am always hacking on you. I am, but I don’t want you to feel like it.,,,LOL
          Some of these people would wheel Phil through in his casket and think he could still coach a championship. It takes a lot of energy to run a team.

          • hookedonnews

            Had to laugh at that image. Some people just can’t seem to climb out of the past. I’m beginning to think that Phil is using this offer from the Knicks to try to force Jim Buss to bring him on board in the FO. If not, what is he waiting for? If he was going to take the job you would think he would have already done it. I”m sure he’s enjoying the media attention. He never was a shrinking violet. Glad you finally found something you could agree with. Probably won’t happen again. LOL

          • Chrmngblly

            :-)

    • Kay Carter

      Im gonna that this is true…..bkuz he needs to go asap

    • hookedonnews

      I watched First Take today and didn’t hear SAS say anything about D’Antoni being fired. I have no inside track so I have no clue what’s going to happen, but I’ll believe it when I hear it from an official source. I can’t imagine why they would make a move before next season because they’re going to have to pay D’Antoni’s salary regardless. If I were making the decisions I would leave him in place to work with the young players and see how next season goes with a healthy roster, but they pulled the plug on Mike Brown and could do the same with MDA. I guess we’ll know in a few weeks.

      With regard to Jackson, I wouldn’t hold my breath on that. Don’t see him getting a FO job with the Lakers, and he’s through coaching.

      • Daryl Peek

        SAS did say according to a source (not a Lakers one) that MDA is done after this season. We know SAS has been wrong many times before. Phil’s admission Dr. Buss made the decision is the most recent revelation of his Jimmy Buss/Lakers bias gone wrong.

        • hookedonnews

          Evidently SAS still hasn’t gotten the word on that because he’s still blaming Jim Buss for hiring MDA. Thanks for clarifying about the First Take thing. Guess I must have missed him talking about that.

          • Daryl Peek

            SAS will never relent on that, he’s too vested into the smear campaign. He’d rather go down with egg on his face rather than admit he was wrong.

          • Chrmngblly

            He’s not alone, Daryl.

          • Daryl Peek

            The devil has his minions also.

          • Chrmngblly

            It’s not too late. I know there’s still good in you. Come back from the dark side….

          • Chrmngblly

            You and peek are the founders of the “Laker’s Mysterious Bullshit” Church of Scientology. Did either of you ever read or see Shakespeare’s play “King Lear?” The Lakers are exactly, exactly King Lear. Get the liner notes…

          • hookedonnews

            Actually we’re two of the few people who try to operate on facts rather than BS. King Lear? Let’s not make this too complicated or resort to Shakespeare. Anyone who was paying attention last year knew it was Dr. Buss that made the call on D’Antoni. Phil Jackson recently confirmed it, but SAS is still ranting about Jim Buss destroying the Lakers by hiring D’Antoni. People like him who claim to be sports insiders ought to do a little more homework than he apparently does.

      • 3339

        No fire him and bring in someone to coach these players right. Don’t want to start our high draft pick’s career out by being coached by this guy.

        • hookedonnews

          There are a lot of players who have had their best years under D’Antoni. Whatever you may think of him, he’s really good working with young players.

          • 3339

            my opinion of him is based on what I see. Lakers are going to put together another big time team with Kobe, draft pick, big FA this year or more likely next. i don’t trust dantoni at all to make that a championship contender.

          • Daryl Peek

            Who are they bringing in? If Kevin Love is the target, he’s MDA’s wet dream. LOL

          • 3339

            smh

          • Chrmngblly

            I am not actually sold on KL. I might prefer Lamarcus Aldridge or somebody we draft or get a deal on. Can Kelly grow up? Can we get Earl Clark back?

          • Daryl Peek

            I would love to see KL with the Lakers. We’d just need a defensive beast at center.

            Lamarcus would be nice too. Kelly can back up either him or Love. Clark would be tight with MDA. He did have his best production under him.

            For the MDA ruined NY folks, Clark wants out of NY like Howard wanted out of LA. Funny how that is working given MDA is not there?

          • hookedonnews

            Who do you trust to bring a championship to LA? There’s no one out there without a job that’s got a championship on his resume.

          • Joseph Apohen

            MDA’s offense is fun and enjoyable. If they can only incorporate defense. Maybe bring that Chicago coach to coach defense.? That would be great. I can drream can’t I?

          • hookedonnews

            Ha ha! I agree that would be great. They played a little defense Sunday. Bazemore is a pretty good defender, and Kelly is improving. He’s gotten some key blocks recently. I think as they cut down the turnovers and become more efficient offensively it will help the defense. They score a lot of points, but the turnovers have killed them with easy transition baskets for the other team.

          • Daryl Peek

            It would have been interesting if MDA was able to get Nate McMillan on board as he wanted.

          • Chrmngblly

            No. Nobody understands the glaring flaw in MDAs theory of BB: It is way easier and a lot more fun to emphasize the high glory side of BB: the scoring, the assists, etc.—and MDA does this everywhere he goes—but making stops and picking up rebounds and loose balls, the dirty work of BB that doesn’t show up on the stat sheet goes by the wayside on an MDA team. Assuming all the players shoot about the same, since they are all in the NBA, after all, if the other guys get more rebounds or win more hustle plays or just make a few more stops, they will almost always win. Others remember to do the dirty-work first, not MDA—and he never learns.

          • hookedonnews

            I have heard D’Antoni on the sidelines during a game telling them to rebound, go after loose balls, and make stops. Your characterizations of D’Antoni are not based on facts. Those are assumptions. If you want to know how the man coaches you need to listen to what he says. I don’t assume that all NBA players shoot the same. That’s the reason Miami acquired Ray Allen. You are forming opinions about MDA based on what people like SAS say and what you’re seeing on the court the last couple of seasons with a team that has been decimated by injuries and is short on top-tier players that are healthy.

          • Daryl Peek

            False assessment. Shawn Marion, Raja Bell, Kurt Thomas, Shawne Williams in NY, David Lee who got his start with MDA, Wilson Chandler, Landry Fields and Steve Blake would all say different.

          • Chrmngblly

            Who are all these losers?

          • Daryl Peek

            If you have to ask you’re not a knowledgeable basketball fan because they are far from losers. I wouldn’t categorize any player who makes it on the highest level of basketball a loser. Williams is the only one not in the NBA right now but that’s not the question. Players that do the dirty work are not all-stars

          • Chrmngblly

            LMAO.

          • Sylvia Ross

            We want Pringles gone. Not to get him an assistant but GONE.

          • Daryl Peek

            I hear you but the FO and many of the young players on the team likely sees it differently so brace yourself.

          • 3339

            actually while in Phoenix, Steve Kerr asked dantoni to take on Tom Thibodeau as an assistant but dantoni refused and left.

          • hookedonnews

            That’s not the reason he left Phoenix. There were a variety of factors, but the FO wouldn’t pay the good players they had and they brought in players he didn’t want. They dismantled that team because they weren’t willing to pay players to stay. The Suns finally got some decent management, and you can see the results there this season. SAS brings up that Thibodeau thing every 2 weeks just like he repeats something else MDA said back in 2004. This is 2014. D’Antoni tried to get them to bring Nate McMillan to LA when he got there to coach defense. The idea that D’Antoni would make the same decisions today with this team that he made in 2004 with those players is just stupid.

          • Chrmngblly

            MDA was fired in Phoenix.

          • fakerstolakers

            He had some fun throwing marbles in Phoenix as Nash was surrounded by runners.
            Most recently he failed to work with Melo, Pau, DH.

            These are all stars hall of famers.

            Anyone who hires him would be on a 10 days contract and see what happens approach.

          • hookedonnews

            If you’re watching what’s going on in NY right now, you know that D’Antoni was not the problem there. That is a dysfunctional team from ownership on down. I heard George Karl say yesterday that many people in the league believe you can’t win a championship with Melo. His style of play disrupts team chemistry. D’Antoni had a group of young players in NY who were playing well. Most of them went to Denver in the trade for Anthony. Denver immediately got better. Karl also said he didn’t think Phil Jackson (if he takes the NY job) would want a player like Melo because he wants unselfish players. They also had some injuries in NY that didn’t help plus Anthony’s refusal to be a team player. When you have a player like Anthony who thinks he can do it all himself, you’re not going anywhere. He’s putting up some great stats this season, but the team has been terrible.

            D’Antoni catered to Howard, but Howard had the idea he was Shaq and wanted to play back-to-the-basket and refused to play pick and rolls. Howard was also never really healthy last season. If you’ll recall the Lakers were playing well by the end of last season, however. Howard left LA (according to his people and him) because he didn’t want to play with Kobe. He said he would stay if they amnestied him.

            Pau was caught in the Dwight Howard saga last season. He also wasn’t healthy with bad knees and plantar fasciitis. He has done some whining and moaning, but he’s playing well right now. He finally decided to get aggressive–something he could have done from the get-go. Maybe he’s not crazy about D’Antoni’s system, but he can play in it. I don’t think he’s going to find a lot of teams in the league who aren’t playing some form of that system unless he goes to Chicago or Indiana.

            You want to make D’Antoni the problem, but in my view, it’s the players who were the problem. With Melo it’s all about him. Howard is a moron who never really wanted to be in LA and couldn’t deal with the pressure he got from Kobe or the fans. Pau could have done what he was asked and kept his mouth shut. That’s what Steve Nash did last season when he was relegated to a spot-up shooter because Kobe decided he wanted to facilitate. I think D’Antoni tried to accommodate these players, but in the end you have to do what you think is best for the team. Every superstar is not a selfish player. D’Antoni has a reputation as a player’s coach. He’s not the first coach who’s had a problem with Melo and Howard. Just ask Stan Van Gundy.

          • Chrmngblly

            HorseShit.

          • hookedonnews

            On the contrary–everything I said was fact. I don’t know what you think I got wrong there, but I don’t know anything I said that fits your description. You may not like it, but that doesn’t mean it’s not true.

          • Chrmngblly

            Are you a parrot? Do you just follow DP around and say stuff he says back to him? Or maybe it’s him that follows you around….peek must get a lot of his material from you but he gets your material really garbled in translation, hook, Don’t listen to DP. Listen to me. This is the best chance you’ll ever have at getting an education.

            A man is known by his deeds.. Everywhere MDA goes he gets about the same result. How do you explain that? A team plays in the image of it’s coach. The clueless think Phil only won because he had a few great players. They also think if a coach mumbles a few words about defense on the sidelines, it is the same as valuing defense with your deeds–like sitting Kaman in favor of Sacre or playing Johnson instead of Kelly. Those are small examples.

            What I refer to shows up over years. John Wooden knew that the game was all about character. I don’t know if I can explain this to parrots.

          • hookedonnews

            If you want to see some parrots, look at the majority of the comments on these threads. I saw some stats the other day that proved that Phil only went to teams that were loaded and ready to win when he got there. D’Antoni had 4 50+ win seasons in Phoenix, plus 2 WCF appearances. He was also Coach of the Year. Those are pretty good results. He took the Knicks to the playoffs for the first time in 9 years before they traded off half the team and brought in a player who would not cooperate and be a team player (Melo). A look at what’s going on in NY this year should tell you that there were more problems there than MDA.

            D’Antoni thinks Sacre is a better defender than Kaman, plus he can run down the court without having a cardiac arrest. I think Johnson is the best defender we have. Kelly has been improving on defense lately, but he wasn’t that great initially. That tells me he’s being coached up. His offensive game has also dramatically improved recently. The reason he plays Wes is because he gets up and down the court faster than anyone else, and he forces his guy to run with him. It worked really well against the Blazers. Aldridge was huffing and puffing trying to run the court with him, and we had tons of fast break points. There are reasons MDA makes these decisions. If you would listen to his pressers you would know why he plays certain players.

            D’Antoni has a reputation for not caring about defense because he didn’t worry that much about it in Phoenix. The defensive stats for those teams are a little skewed because of the number of possessions other teams were getting because of the 7 seconds or less offense. He has clearly been more concerned about defense since coming to LA if you listen to what he, the other coaches, and the players say. Of course, you can choose to ignore that and assume that he places no importance on it like the rest of the folks who comment here.

            We have no great defensive stopper at the rim and no one on this team is going to make the All-Defensive team I’m guessing. I think everyone agrees that the defense needs improvement. But trying to lay all the problems at MDA’s door is a cop-out.

          • Chrmngblly

            I want to say one thing to you right now. It is about Phil.
            You have to know how incredibly hard it is to win even one championship with any team. Any team with good guys can contend—but to win the championship—that’s very, very hard. It is a thousand times harder to do it more than once in your life. To 3peat is beyond special but to do it with 2 completely different teams is beyond difficult. He has 11 rings, hook. Two of those are from his playing days.
            If you don’t think Phil knows something others do not, you just don’t know anything about basketball. Just you even saying that sort of proves my point. Listen to me, not all these blog-parrots. Most of them don’t know shit.
            The same is true about MDA. There is a flaw in him that he doesn’t even see. He can build a contender but not a championship team. Kobe knows; D12 does not.
            Jerry Buss was a world class champion–Jim Buss is clueless. Can Mitch overcome that? Maybe, but I doubt it.

          • hookedonnews

            I never said Phil Jackson was not a great coach. No one disputes that. What I said was that he never went into a situation where he had to build a team from scratch. The stats prove that. That is a fact that everyone who knows anything about the NBA knows. Having great players doesn’t guarantee a championship, but it doesn’t hurt. I didn’t question his coaching ability. I only stated a fact that everyone acknowledges.

            Jeanie Buss is never going to run the basketball side of the Lakers. Her dad didn’t give her that job for a reason. Part of that was that he didn’t want Phil Jackson involved in the front office. I think Jim Buss has made some questionable decisions (hiring Mike Brown & Kobe’s big contract for example), but he didn’t make the decision about D’Antoni. That was Dr. Buss. If they fire D’Antoni, there’s no guarantee that the next choice will be any better if you believe Jim is an idiot.

            I don’t agree that D’Antoni can’t win a championship. I don’t know if he can. I know he built a very good team in Phoenix that came pretty close. With the right players you can do a lot. Mike Brown got to the Finals in Cleveland because he had LeBron James. I don’t expect to ever see him back there again unless James decides to return to Cleveland & he’s still coaching. I don’t know how you judge MDA with the situation he’s dealt with the last 2 seasons. I don’t think any coach could have done a lot with the injuries and the level of talent. That’s the reason I think he should be given the opportunity to finish his contract. If he falls on his face next season, then he’ll deserve what he gets.

          • Chrmngblly

            First off, the best coaches are not the ones that have to rebuild bad teams. There is always a better situation a proven championship coach can go to–like Doc Rivers just did–when it is time to rebuild. Phil was a championship coach. He would not want or accept the job of coaching these scrub Lakers.

            There are facts that everyone acknowledges and non-facts that everyone acknowledges, just as though they actually were facts. You know this. Those are myths.

            “Jeanie Buss is never going to run the basketball side of the Lakers. Her dad didn’t give her that job for a reason. Part of that was that he didn’t want Phil Jackson involved in the front office. I think Jim Buss has made some questionable decisions (hiring Mike Brown & Kobe’s big contract for example), but he didn’t make the decision about D’Antoni. That was Dr. Buss.”

            You state as fact, things no one will ever be able to know and prove. I don’t know why Dr. Buss made Jeanie President of the Lakers or why he made Jimmy Vice-president in charge of player personnel (or whatever he is). Other Buss kids are also involved, as I think you know. It is a formula for disaster in business, ala King Lear.
            Did Dr. Buss increasingly turn matters over to Jimmy in his later years? I am sure. Did the senior Buss turn even more over to his son as his interest turned to a young girlfriend? I would have..:-). Was Jim left to figure things out more and more for himself as his father became ill with cancer? Most likely, wouldn’t you suppose?.

            I think Dr. Buss’s motives are likely a lot simpler than him hating Phil–he probably just wanted to provide for his ne’er-do-well son, who to this day still hasn’t had a job daddy didn’t give him. If he pushed Phil away Dr. Buss probably just feared Phil would eat up his little boy–which Phil would have.
            Who made what Laker’s decisions in recent years? You seem to think we should believe the shit coming out of peoples mouths, where-as, I know if their lips are moving, they’re lying. People always dress up the past to make themselves look better or help their present situation, don’t they? You can bet your last dollar that the recent effort to pin these last few year’s string of lame business decisions on the dead Dr. Buss are all self-serving efforts to make Jim Buss appear “not that bad.”
            You know something about people. What makes the most sense? Come on, hook.

    • fakerstolakers

      Phil has never built a team from ground up.

      He inherited the Bulls loaded with Jordan and Pippen and the Lakers with Shaq and Kobe.

      When you do not have those players on a team, it is hard to judge. Think about 2006 and 2007!

  • Reggie

    Phil please comeback to coach the Lakers and work as the new Lakers boss.

  • Kev

    Can the Lakers really afford to let yet another Laker legend and basketball mastermind leave to the another organization. Look what Jerry Buss/Warriors and Pat Riley/Miami Heat have accomplished for the those teams. C’mon Buss family don’t let this basketball genius leave and bring him into the fold already!

    • Dead

      you mean Jerry West/Warriors although i think i can speak for every Lakers fan out there that we would switch our Jim Buss with “Mr NBA” Jerry West.

      • Daniel

        Ya give us back “The Logo”!

        • Chrmngblly

          No doubt. But who would take Jimbo in that trade?

      • Chrmngblly

        I say grab Magic Johnson.

  • APrince66

    FFS Lakers HIRE THIS MAN!!!!!!

  • creepin

    Jeanie Bus is a hot cougar, and the weather in NYC sucks. That is all.

    • Robert Perez

      Sold!

    • duke

      NYC is a pile of shi

  • Robert Perez

    Cmon Jim, you need someone inside who actually knows something about basketball. Don’t let him walk away again.

  • Zimmeredge

    well guys the zen is in da place. or at least he hopes he can come back.
    well well well. Bryant-Jackson, a handful of young guys and a lot of money that’s enough to rebuild a big team.

  • James Jones

    I’ve had it!!! The family needs to get together and do three things.

    1. Let Jim know that his run is over and Jeannie will be taking over moving forward.
    2. Inform Kupchack that his services are no longer needed and hand him his walking papers.
    3. Hire Phil to run things from the personnel standpoint for as long as wants to.

    As long as Jim is in charge (being that he trumps Kupchack anyway) we will be doomed for years to come. These aren’t my Lakers and that ass clown will only continue to make that fact more so.

    • Kay Carter

      kupchak is tha reason why we had gotten Cp3 nd D12, and you want him gone????? that makes no sense

      • Eddie Hernandez

        we didn”t get CP3…

        • Kay Carter

          yeah we did :/ the trade then got nullified when we received him, it was final intill Stern jumped in smh bkuz Hornets at the time was owned by the NBA…..We basically had CP3 :/

  • Daryl Peek

    Some Lakers fans are so confused in their Phil worshiping it’s team history delusional? They dis Mitch Kupchak calling for his removal when it was Mitch (after Phil helped run West off) that sold out on stocking the Lakers, at the peril of devaluing draft picks thus hocking the future over the years with the older triangle players Phil wanted. 4 rings (after 2000 when West retired) is what it brought and that’s great but people need to stop acting like we are not now paying the piper for said hocking of the future.

    Many of them call for Jerry West to again be part of the mix when West wanted/wants no parts of Phil, and runs things in complete opposition of how Phil does in looking to the draft and spending time scouting on the day to day grind, things Phil wants no part of. Phil had no desire to work with rookies either and the Lakers are in a place where they need youth, what part of that is Phil’s make up?

    There’s no rhyme or reason outside of reminiscing past glory for Phil assuming any type of FO position coupled with the ouster of the incumbents. Phil has made it clear all he wants is a quasi hands off part time responsibility leadership role given he does not want anything to do with scouting, and other day to day operations that might call for him to travel. Outside of figurehead name recognition, what would he be running?

    At best he should only be offered an official position of consultant like West has with the Warriors.

    • Giao Pham

      Well said, my man.
      Even if the Lakers offer Phil the head coaching job right now, I’ve doubted that he’d take it. Phil can’t do crap without a super star or two.
      Mitch Kupchak has done a really good job so far, and now people wanted to get rid of him and r/p with Phil … common, be real.
      The blame should be squarely on the tyrant David Stern for vetoing the CP3 trade. That screwed up and set the Lakers back a few years.
      Let see how they do the next 2 years with big names out there.

      • Daryl Peek

        I take nothing away from P-Jax the HC. He very well may have gotten more out of the team we had last season, as he’s no doubt a better players motivator in managing egos. Those that say Kobe or others on the team wouldn’t have gotten injured are in the delusional group I speak of. I’ve written about the difference in injury plight of the triangle players VS. the D’Antoni system ones from 2000-2011, and MDA has a much better record of less injuries.

        As for this years roster? Phil wanted nothing to do with it. I just have a hard time understanding why people think Phil is the answer in the FO when he’s never done anything in that area before and speaks like he’s not vested in what it takes to be a GM. Those that want Jimmy to step down need to get over it because it’s not gonna happen less the young Buss clan sells the team, which is what some of them want to do.

        • Chrmngblly

          I don’t really hate agreeing with you when you are right. There is still the approach Magic recommended and which Dr. Buss used: bring in some outside basketball person like when Dr. Buss brought in Jerry West to advise him. Phil is too divisive, perhaps, that is why I recommend Magic Johnson. He is the face of the Lakers that is still known and loved everywhere. No brainer.

          • Daryl Peek

            “Dr. Buss brought in Jerry West to advise him.” ?!?

            Dr. Buss inherited Bill Sharman, Jerry West and Jack McKinney. Jack McKinney was actually the orchestrator of Showtime on the court. DR. Buss just purchased the Lakers at the perfect time. All the ingredients/minds were in place to allow the team to win and give him the platform to realize his entertainment vision of Showtime. The young Buss clan are not inheriting the Lakers on the same fertile ground. The foundation is there but the environment is not set up for success like it was in 1979.

            Magic is a great communicator and motivator but it is the people behind the scenes making the moves Magic is the face of. I’d love for Magic to be part of the Lakers FO but not the ultimate shot caller. Phil could serve the same purpose as a figurehead consultant. Phil knows the struggles of the young Buss clan, and as I’ve told you before it’s far from just the Jeanie Jimmy struggle most think it is. They’re fighting to get on the same page to keep the franchise in the family’s ownership as some of the other younger ones want to sell the team. This si why Phil has said they have things “THEY” need to workout.

            Whether they keep MDA through his contract or not I could care less. I’m just tired of all the triangle distractions and am past ready to move on…

          • Chrmngblly

            So basically you agree with me. Good.

    • Chrmngblly

      Get Magic.

  • TheTruthKills

    If Phil is a no go we need to throw ourselves at the feet of Jerry West. Give him whatever he wants to make him our President of Basketball Operations. Jim Buss can stick around, but he needs a basketball mind making basketball decisions.

    • Kay Carter

      i doubt he comes back, but bringing West back will be a blessing

    • Eddie Hernandez

      love the idea. I am all for bringing back J West!

    • Chrmngblly

      Magic Johnson.

  • Daniel

    It’s no secret we want Phil in L.A. MDA should have never had a chance. His system didn’t work in N.Y. why would it work for the Lakers? We have some really good players that nobody knows about.

    • Daryl Peek

      MDA’s system didn’t work in NY because the NY FO sabotaged D’Antoni’s roster for box office. NY is again failing with Woody. How is that so when MDA was the problem?

  • Daryl Peek

    Question for all the “We Want Phil” Lakers fans? Who are the coming draft eligible players Phil has identified as the next best thing in the coming draft? Everyone seems to be sold on the notion of tanking and are eagerly looking forward to our draft pick. Again, where does Phil stand on that? Has he even taken the time to see who of this draft crop will possibly anchor the Lakers future?

    I really need Lakers fans to start being critical thinkers instead of ESPN First Take sheep in pondering these very important immediate need questions?

    • 3339

      Well who are the players Mitch and Buss have identified?
      seriously how are we supposed to know what Phil is thinking? All we know is that if Phil would somehow return as coach he could coach any player we draft and coach him right.

      • Daryl Peek

        Buss and Kupchak are and have clearly been seen out there scouting. Phil has openly admitted that is something he wants no part of. Phil has also said coaching this team is not on his agenda either. Again, what are you wanting him for?

        • 3339

          Oh idk he just happens to be the greatest coach in NBA history and helped us win 5 rings.
          is that a good reason?

          • Daryl Peek

            You’re going exactly where I said you would in reminiscing past glory. Come on man.

          • 3339

            so me wanting the best coach ever to coach us instead of this current clown is a bad thing?
            Lakers turned to him in 2005-2006 to help and he got us back on track.

          • Daryl Peek

            First thing, Phil does not want to coach anymore, what part of that don’t you understand? Second, Jimmy and Mitch were the ones who turned to Phil in 05, and Jimmy was the one who pondered Phil in 2012. In the FO capacity he’s seeking he’d replace the two, so again, what are you wanting Phil for?

          • 3339

            alright Lakers insider I do understand. I want someone that can control the team the way he did. He could handle any player and manage all these egos.

          • Daryl Peek

            I just look at the truth of matters man. Phil is no doubt in my mind the GOAT as a winner as an NBA HC. That is now his past and we as LN need to move on as he has, that’s all I’m saying.

          • 3339

            I see the truth as well, which is that the Lakers have been a laughing stock under dantoni. we have to move on from him.

          • Daryl Peek

            I agree we’ve stunk the last two seasons but MDA is simply a scapegoat just as he was in NY and how Mike Woodson is in NY right now. The Lakers are far from a laughing stock. We’ve been through this type of fall before and it was a two year well under .500 record losing plight, with a much worse HC (Randy Pfund) who Dr. Buss and West chose after prematurely firing Mike Dunleavy Sr. who was only one season removed from a finals appearance. This is why I can be so calm in this storm. We’ve seen this before and it was not Jimmy and Mitch who were in charge at the time. Patience’s is needed, that’s all…

          • 3339

            But we are getting better players. High draft pick this year in possibly the best one since 2003 and a big FA in 2015. dantoni is not the coach to form them into a winner.

          • Daryl Peek

            I can’t argue the MDA championship thing given he has no NBA rings but he did win in the Euro league, and he’s absolutely perfect for grooming young players from the ground up in today’s NBA. From the AAU level of basketball to every pro level they run his system for the most part. This is why players instantly have success playing for him.
            Grooming youth and kicked to the curb players is the one thing MDA does best. Del Harris was that for Phil, as he prepped the Lake Show before Phil took over. MDA’s list of young players that have gone on to get paid and become staples in the NBA is a long list. These Lakers need a coach like MDA to groom them. Look at what MDA did for Steve Blake?

            Gasol, while not happy with MDA at all is still having the best season he’s had in three years playing in his system. Hill will now go on to get the biggest payday of his career after succeeding in the D’Antoni system in his on/off playing time. Kaman has been somewhat rejuvenated playing in the system even tho he’s been in the dog house. His production is as good as it’s been in a couple of years in limited minutes. Sacre now likely has a place in the NBA as a limited minutes rotational player in the NBA when he likely would be out of the league if not for D’Antoni having faith in him.

            I wont even go into all of the guards and wing players he’s helped on this team. Again. grooming youth is what he does, and there’s no coach who gonna make the Lakers a championship contender right away given the issues we have right now.

          • Eddie Hernandez

            Are you a real Laker Fan. You speak a good game but if you believe MDA is the answer you are delusional!!! you talk about patience do you forget it’s L.A. not Sacramento! I for one have lost all patience and I dont care who you want to blame or who you want bring in! who ever those shall be bring us a winning team! The person who needs to know this is JIM BUSS! WAKE UP DARYL!!!

          • Daryl Peek

            When have I ever said MDA is the man to lead the Lakers to the promised land? Obviously you follow my comments. I talk patience’s simply because that is what it took from 1989-2000!

            I wonder if you’re a real Lakers fan or just a recent bandwagoner who follows ESPN for all of your sports opinions? Those who know the history of this team and aren’t in triangle denial understand patience’s is needed right now. There is no Magic wand Phil or any other HC is gonna waive to change thing right away.

            Dr. Buss is the one who chose MDA. WAKE UP HERNANDEZ!!

          • Eddie Hernandez

            First to question wether I am a true fan or not you have to know me! You on the other hand seem to have all the answers so why dont they just hire you for the job! Second im 45 and remember when they drafted Magic! I watched Showtime live. I went to the championship parades in the 80′s! Third Dr Buss isn’t here NOW and if he was MDA would be history at this point this I am sure of! Lastly if you accept mediocrity Laker Nation doesn’t need you or want you, I don’t care who they bring just bring a winner!!!! That goes to Jim Buss and you! If he cant handle the job let Jennie take over!

          • Daryl Peek

            I’ve been a Lakers fan since 1976 before Showtime, when Jerry West went from a college scout to HC, and I’m very well versed in what the cycle of championship/dynasty team building is given all I’ve seen over the years. Do I have all of the answers? NO, but again I don’t have selective memory about the history of this great franchise and all that Dr. Buss went through in building and maintaining the brand. Your impatient statement is a novice mentality. No one wants to see losing but there are always down times.

            Again, you seem to have assimilated into the triangle impatience’s Jerry West left the Lakers over back in 2000? West built the Lake Show while grooming Mitch and Jimmy at the time. This was Dr. Buss’s plan. Jeanie has no business in the basketball side. The Logo knows how hard Kupchak works and understands what he’s going through. West may have done things differently but that would have been in opposition to the hocking of the future Phil demanded in trading all of our draft picks away for older triangle parts Phil wanted. Those championship repeats came at a cost. This is what you seem to not understand?

            If you’re in fact who you say you are as a Lakers fan you’d know Phil would not have had the Lake Show where they were if not for Del Harris, who happens to be the same coach as MDA. There’s stages to rebuilding and MDA is a stage right now.

            If you can’t handle the truth silence is the best policy.

      • Daryl Peek

        And Phil buries rookies DEEP on the end of the bench. Farmar couldn’t wait to get from under the triangle. Bynum was a nightmare for Phil and never responded to his discipline, although to be fair to Phil, Bynum was and is a different kind of dude. The needs of the team as far as youth movement don’t match your desire for Phil as coach, and definitely as a GM.

        • 3339

          Yeah Bynum was but Phil won a title with him and Artest.
          Phil was able to control them and get them to fit in. dantoni couldn’t do that. we need someone who can. Perfect world, Phil, but I am realistic and there are plenty of coaches out there that would manage our players much better.

  • Joseph Apohen

    Phil, you made so much money in your life and you enjoy Manhattan Beach where you and Jeannie have a great life. Why complicate your life and add more stress? You don’t need to prove to anyone anything. You’ve made it. You’re the greatest coach in pro sports you don’t need to conquer anything anymore. Enjoy life while there’s still time.

  • roseducanna

    JACKSON never go to N.Y.

  • Frank Rizzo

    The only coach worse than Mike D’amnphony is Mike Clown

  • Super Girl

    PLEASE PHIL STAY WITH THE LAKERS, C’MON JIM BUSS YOU SHOULD KNOW BETTER NOW!!! THAT YOUR LEADERSHIP IS NOT WORKING… STEP ASIDE AND TAKE SOME TUTORIAL LESSONS FROM THE ZEN MASTER… DUH!!!

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