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Lakers Rumors: Tom Thibodeau, Carmelo Anthony Both Headed To Los Angeles?

The Los Angeles Lakers likely won’t make a final decision on a new head coach anytime soon. The storied franchise will continue to weigh options with the NBA draft lottery approaching on May 20 and the 2014 NBA draft to follow soon on June 26.

Even though the team is in no hurry to hire a new head coach, one name has surfaced as a possibility that could potentially be a game-changer for the struggling franchise. The Lakers still need to be granted permission to talk to Tom Thibodeau, but reports have surfaced that GM Mitch Kupchak and company are expected to pursue the Chicago Bulls head coach.

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Interestingly enough, free-agent-to-be Carmelo Anthony and Thibodeau have something in common sharing the Creative Arts Agency. David Haugh of The Chicago Tribune speculates that the agency would prefer to have both clients in Los Angeles:

The longer Thibodeau stays silent, the more people will suspect he has interest in the Lakers or was aware of the rumor being floated — which might be unfair but part of the perception-is-reality world in which we live. It only took two phone calls on this story before a league source wondered whether Creative Arts Agency — which represents Thibodeau and free-agent Carmelo Anthony — would prefer their clients collaborate in Los Angeles instead of Chicago.

With Anthony expected to opt out of his deal with the New York Knicks this summer, Chicago has been considered a likely destination for the superstar. The Knicks will have their shot to re-sign Anthony with Phil Jackson giving him his best sales pitch, but the Lakers may be able to draw Anthony to Los Angeles with Thibodeau in the fold.

At this point in time, there’s no telling what will happen during the off-season for the Lakers. A new head coach needs to be hired while also trying to fill out the roster with only three players under contract for next season with Kobe Bryant, Robert Sacre and Steve Nash set to return.

The Lakers bringing in Anthony and Thibodeau is far-fetched. It may be nothing more than a pipe dream, but anything is possible moving forward with Mike D’Antoni no longer an obstacle.
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  • Eazy

    I couldn’t count how many times The Lakers have pulled off things that I thought were not possible. Granted this would be the first time in the Post Jerry Buss era, but anyone who has followed the happenings of THE BEST franchise in the NBA has learned never to rule *anything* out!

    • A Fan

      First time? No one suspected Mitch and Jim nearly got CP3 for Pau and Odom, acquire Steve Nash (which at that time was considered a good deal), and swap Bynum for Howard. While the coaching hires have blown since Jim took over, the roster construction has been really solid.

      • Diogenes Arauz

        That wasn’t there fault. The NBA had a hand on that one. Lakers wouldn’t have missed a beat if it wasn’t for the COMMISSIONER of the NBA. The deal was basically done.

        • ‘James Edwards

          Fact is stern was not acting as the commissioner he was acting as owner of the hornets because the nba owned them at the time…As the owner he didn’t like the move which is well within his rights

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          • http://www.foxhilldesign.com Josh

            Stern had given Demps autonomy to make trades. Stern only vetoed (as commissioner) because Cuban and Gilbert whined about the trade.

          • magikwyrkz

            He did this out of pure spite because he was all about Miami. Several other owners as well did not want this trade to occur because they did not want the Lakers as champions again.

        • magikwyrkz

          I have nothing but disgust for Stern because of this.

  • TheTruthKills

    I don’t know if Thibs is worth the compensation we’d have to give up to get him (possible our lottery pick this year). Plus, Melo would have to take a rather large paycut for the Lakers to field a team around him, what’s left of Kobe, and Steve Nash’s chalk outline. I’m not going to rule it out, but I’ll have to see it happen to believe it.

    • Al Haldie

      The best get paid best and Thibs is next after Phil —-and we sure don’t need Melo for any price – he has not fit on a team yet – he always causes crap..

      • comrade24

        Don’t think Thibs is coming but also I hope he doesn’t. He’s been criticized in the past for overusing his star players. That is not what we need with an aging Kobe Bryant and potentially Pau Gasol. Plus, yes his team plays great defense. Big Deal. Not so hard when you have the defensive player of the year. He didn’t develop Noah into that type of defender. He was like that at FLorida. Crazy hustle and great on ball defender. That’s always been his game. Luol Deng, another great defender. What has Thibs won? Nothing. I’m not saying he’s not a great coach, because he is, but regarding him in the same breath as Phil Jackson is just blasphemy.

        • Dorian Holden

          Who is he is in the same breath as Phil. For the love of God, please stop talking about Phil Jackson. Dude is the President of the Knicks and is never coming back! Thibs is the best coach today and would be a great fit.

          • comrade24

            i didn’t say anything about bringing phil back! Geez, try reading. Thibs is also not available. I’d be shocked if he ended up coaching the Lakers. He’d be a great fit if you like injuries sticking with the team for the next two years.

          • Daryl Peek

            The thing is, you can find flaw in any HC. This is the problem with bashing or propping up any one of them. Elite talent is what wins in this league and we have huge question marks in that area. Everyone is praying Kobe can return to prominence but we had that convo last off-season. until the Lakers settle on a coach and give him a TRUE chance to build (patience’s) we will continue to be in the flip mode cycle.

          • Computer Networking

            Elite talent plus the right offensive and defensive strategy wins championships. This isn’t basketball on the blacktop or a pickup game. Just because you have elite talent doesn’t mean you are going to win. Ask jordan when he played against the pistons the first and second time. Elite players but lost. Ask Stockton and Malone going against the bulls.

          • Daryl Peek

            There was a progression of learning how to win and always is with every team. Stockton and Malone ran into Jordan who was not gonna lose by the time he learned. Malone was the weak link on that team IMO. He didn’t have the killer instinct the same way Barkley didn’t. They couldn’t figure out how to beat Jordan. I truly believe Magic would’ve done that if not for his affliction.

            Please miss me with references like the blacktop/pick up game one.

          • hookedonnews

            Greg Popovich is the best coach in the league. Until Thibodeau wins something, and even then, he’s not going to be better than Pop. I also don’t see him as a great fit. LA has no great defensive players, and someone recently described bringing him to LA as replacing Showtime with Slowtime. He’s a good coach–maybe as good as any other coach who’s available, but I don’t know that I’d want to give up our draft pick to get him. I wonder what he thinks about coaching Anthony? Would love to know what he really thinks about that.

          • Chrmngblly

            This is the first time in a long time that you have actually said something reasonable with no ButtKissing involved. Are you trying to taper off or quit cold turkey? I know you and MDA still keep in touch. Good job, hook. Poor DP, no one knows what he said.

          • hookedonnews

            If you actually read my posts you would know that I am always reasonable. Any butt-kissing is purely a figment of your imagination.

          • Daryl Peek

            The butt kissing theme is because one does not agree with the masses and actually takes time to account for all of the details.

          • Chrmngblly

            You are usually irrational, hook—which I attributed to your bromance with MDA.

          • Chrmngblly

            You are experiencing “denial”, one of the seven stages of grief you go through anytime you quit a bad habit, like smoking cigarettes or ButtKissing.

          • Pat Oslon

            POPS #1

          • hookedonnews

            Agree 100%.

          • nlruizjr

            shouldn’t rings have something to do with measuring greatness ????

          • Daryl Peek

            The number of coaches with rings on their resumes is a very short list and they were once unproven as far as that goes also. Was Riley great when he took over for Westhead who had a recent ring? The ring resume argument is so not relevant due to the small pool.

          • nlruizjr

            so your saying that a ring doesn’t have anything to do with measuring one’s ability to coach in the NBA, hmmm !!!!!

          • Daryl Peek

            They help those that have them but the pool is again a very small one.

          • nlruizjr

            so if you had a heart attack and you had a choice to chose the doctor that operated successfully on heart attacks or a doctor that hasn’t had any experience in operating on heart attacks, so any doctor will do according to you !!!!

          • Daryl Peek

            SMH, the choice is not available. Phil is not coming back. The other championship proven head coaches are already employed or in permanent retirement. This is the point, all others are unproven.

          • nlruizjr

            I believe the choice was experience (rings) vs. no experience (like not coaching in the NBA), how many 1st yr. NBA coaches have taken all the marbles ????

          • Daryl Peek

            Now you’re changing the argument up? You claimed rings are the guideline, I said that the pool is too small for that argument. Experience as an NBA coach more often than not is unproven (rings) retread HC.

          • nlruizjr

            ha, ha DP how is that changing the argument, I believe that rings and experience are synonymous and now your saying something even more ridiculous that Experience more often than not is unproven, maybe you should stop because you seem to be hallucinating !!!!!!

          • Daryl Peek

            I’m hallucinating but as previously stated the HC’s with rings on their resume is a short list of guys who are either permanently or currently employed elsewhere, and there are plenty of experienced ones unproven as far as rings go. You need to stop mayne.

          • nlruizjr

            Well DP, I respectfully disagree but either way the Lakers need a coach that knows how to use what he has (talent wise) and knows how to adjust his system to get the most out of his talent), IMO, thanks for the rebuttals.

          • Daryl Peek

            Peace. I’m sure we’ll clash on Lakers ideologies in the future. Agree to disagree is fine with me. GO LAKERS is the commonality.

          • Gpmk

            Suddenly this becomes a debate?

          • will49

            if rings are the end all then lakers should hire only coach in history to win championships on both college and pro level.

          • will49

            never ever trade a no 1 pick for a coach. coach can’t play.

          • http://www.foxhilldesign.com Josh

            I think the reason the pool is so small is that there is a very small number of coaches who are flat out better than the rest. I think winning a seven-game series comes down to 75% coaching, 25% talent. Talent on the floor matters–Pop and Spo could never win without Duncan/Parker/Manu and Lebron/Wade/Bosh, but those players may never have won anything without great coaching.

          • Daryl Peek

            I tend to think of it along the lines of how Dr. Buss and Jerry West always did as it’s more about assembling elite talent than coaching. The great coaching benefits from elite talent more than the other way around. This is the base of how West and Dr. Buss built both Showtime and the Lake Show. West always gave Riley and Jackson just due for what they did motivating and keeping elite talented ego’s focused but never wavered on said talent as the basis of winning first and foremost. Pau Westhead is an example of how elite talent can win without elite coaching. No disrespect to Mike Dunlevy but elite talent got him to the finals with the Lakers minus Kareem where Pat Riley failed the previous season with much more equity vested into the Showtime players. Great coaching with the right players help sustain a dynasty of elite talent longer than really good coaching in championship contention.

        • Devin Hamilton

          People talking about system wise, thib system creates a winning culture that at some point will win championships, not matter whos on the floor all he do is win, of course you over play players when you have INJURIES and trades, a injury can happen to anyone so you dont just throw rookies in the fire right away then you have a loosing season and get fired as a coach you play to win.

    • Alfred

      They won’t give up their lottery pick o get a coach

      • Skinny Jay

        They can’t.

    • A Fan

      Is it really not possible to buyout Nash’s contract?

    • http://www.haveslot.com/ richard

      Thibs, a big probability, but Melo?… won’t happen.. CBA wont allow it because he ish FA, and we still have to sign other players. If at all, Thibs comes, it would be Deng and Hienrich on purple and gold uniform. Deng would be awesome with Kobe and Gasol.

      Gasol, Deng, Kobe, Bazemore, Hienrich… that could be a potential LA Lakers lineup for next season. Offense and defense.
      With Sacre, Kelly, Henry, Meeks, Farmar on the bench.

      • SwaggyMe

        What?? No Jordan Hill? Give me Jordan Hill off the bench over Sacre any day. And Swaggy P. Don’t care for Sacre or Kelly much.

        • http://www.haveslot.com/ richard

          Hill is a PF and Sacre is a defensive center. I am sure J. Hill will ask for a bigger contract and may likely end up in another team, same with SwaggyP…. it they stay within reasonable contract, why not?

    • opex818

      They arent allowed to trade this year’s pick. It would have to be in 2017 or 2018 i think since 2015 and 2016 belong to phoenix via the Nash trade.

      • kookiebuger

        The Lakers 2015 1st round pick is top 5 protected and the Lakers have their 2016 1st round draft pick but they should keep them.

      • Dave

        They can trade the pick after it has been picked….so for example (Minn wants to trade us Love) for the pick plus other assets, we would select the pick they want and then once its done, we can then send that player to them plus whoever else they want. We just can’t trade the pick before it has been made…get it?

  • 46-0

    Thibs, yes (if at all possible). Keep Melo as far away from LA as possible though.

    • NYLakerJ

      Keep Melo away same as Floyd keeps PAC away…?

      • 46-0

        Yawn.

      • JJJ

        How much did you cry when PACMAN got KTFO?

      • keenanjen

        Hey remember the time Floyd got knocked out? Oh yeah that never happened, but I know someone it did happen to you know hos name too. MANNY LOL

    • Michael E Brown

      You laker fans are smoking crack haha

      • Chrmngblly

        We would like to. Do you have anymore?

    • Chrmngblly

      Keep ‘em both away.

    • will49

      i believe larry brown is available. only coach to have major sucsess in both college and pro.

  • independentbynature

    The only part of this article that has merit is the “far-fetched” part.We’ll see.

  • NYLakerJ

    As long as FO waits until after the Draft to make the HC trade. Lakers need the top 6 talent with any FA signings. Thibs would be great. Melo and deng would head to LA. I would prefer breaking the bank to lure Coach K into the NBA for a final challenge to his career…unlike 10 years ago, he has nothing left to accomplish in college – and can head to NBA as all-time leader in wins – talk about being able to bring top flight FA’s to LA…the well-respected Team USA coach would accomplish that feat…talk about splash signing!

    • Jay Autry Photography

      K almost has 1000 wins, not happening.

    • TheTruthKills

      Coach K just brought in his best recruiting class ever. He’s not leaving Duke now.

    • http://www.haveslot.com/ richard

      Thibs, a big probability, but Melo and Deng?… won’t happen.. CBA wont allow it because they are both FA’s. If at all, Thibs comes, it would be Deng on purple and gold uniform. Deng would be awesome with Kobe and Gasol.

      Gasol, Deng, Kobe, Bazemore, Hienrich… that could be a potential LA Lakers lineup for next season. Offense and defense.
      With Sacre, Kelly, Henry, Meeks, Farmar on the bench.

      • nlruizjr

        I believe Young has to be in there somewhere !!

      • http://www.foxhilldesign.com Josh

        I don’t get why you keep saying the CBA doesn’t allow Lakers to sign free agents. The Lakers expect to have around $25 million in cap space to sign new contracts this summer.

        • http://www.haveslot.com/ richard

          I will give you two reasons why Lakers cant have both players with the current CBA…
          1. Melo is a max player… that would be at least, 20M/year
          2. Deng is near max player… he would command at least around 10M+…
          You still have to consider cap hold for you other players, like Gasol and of course the first round pick which will be around 3-4M per year.

          Now tell me how in the hell are we going to get Melo and Deng with your 25M cap space? Even if we trade our pick, it still wont do.

          Remember, these two are free agents… the CBA will not allow a team to sign a player that will bring the salary above the cap… you can only go over the cap if they are your own free agents, meaning free agents that you have a bird right or have played at least a season with your team.

          • http://www.foxhilldesign.com Josh

            Deng will not get $10 million under the new CBA. Cap hold for the Lakers’ own free agents goes away if the team signs them to new deals or renounces rights to those players. To bring in a max player, the Lakers would renounce Pau and a few others to make room for the max contract. I still don’t want Melo, but I think Deng would be a great pickup if his deal started around $8 million next season.

          • http://www.haveslot.com/ richard

            IF Deng can be had for 8M… that’s going to be awesome… and you are right about renouncing rights to players… but then again, we only have 25M… we can’t bring in a Max and a near Max player with that amount… mostly 2 near max player… While I am not high on Melo, I wouldn’t say I don’t want him on my team… A team with a Melo will always be a good team, he just need to play alongside someone like a Kobe and learn to reach his potential. If he signs to a lower deal, like for example, 16M per year… him and Deng is going to really bring this team to championship contender.

            Hill,Deng,Melo,Kobe,Farmar … that’s one hell of a team, if they can learn to really play together.

            But that is not a team I would love to have… too flawed… I would go for a decent center.. like Gortat or Hawes…
            Gortat,Deng,Kobe,Basemore,Farmar…

          • will49

            now that mda is gone need to keep hill that way we have a traditional 4 as opposed to the highly overated stretch 4 aka ryan kelly. also get stepenson as free agent.

          • http://www.haveslot.com/ richard

            Somewhat agree with you… in fact, Hill can play the 5, there aren’t too many bigs today. Stephenson is cool dude…

      • will49

        ollie perfect choice. lakers need young coach to grow with and be there long after kobes gone. need to be patient. after past championshop runs its taken them between 7 and 12 yrs to get back on top.

  • Tony Tellez Diaz

    Please Laker Nation make this Duo Happen! :)

    • Jim213

      This is why no matter what B Scott needs to be part of the coaching staff tho he definitely brings more to the table.

      • Tony Tellez Diaz

        I agree 100% man! Besides BScott is a Laker Legend whom Kobe respects by the way! It works out for everyone! Let’s start a Bring Byron Scott and Kyrie Irving to the Lakers Campaign!

  • Tony Tellez Diaz

    Kyrie Irving for Los Angeles Lakers Future!

    • King Gabriel

      Would love to get Irving!!!!

      • Tony Tellez Diaz

        Man me too!! Let’s make it happen!! Let’s start a Bring Irving to Lakers Campaign!!!

      • Tony Tellez Diaz

        Aside from Kobe Bryant this guy right here is my favorite basketball player! #UncleDrew

    • independentbynature

      Irving wants to play for Byron Scott again.

    • CharlieMurphy!

      Lakers pick + Jim Buss for Kyrie! DO IT MITCH!

      • mark

        Why do you guys want kyrie? Kyrie is a good player but notice that he doesnt really defend well? Id rather much wait on exum or smart.

        • CharlieMurphy!

          I like Kyrie, who wouldn’t? But Kyle Lowry should be looked at too. He’s a free agent now I think.. But if we can’t get Lowry, Mitch should try to trade the pick for Kyrie if we can’t get Exum. Lowry >Smart IMO.

      • will49

        draft marcus smart. don’t waste money on overrated pgs

  • comrade24

    i really doubt that Thibs will come to L.A. Bulls have FA plans of their own this summer, and are hoping to pair another star with hopefully a healthy Derrick Rose. There hasn’t been much buzz around Melo coming to LA this season, probably because a D’Antoni reunion wasn’t very likely. I wonder if the Lakers might have more interest in him now. I don’t think he would be a good fit, he’s a very myopic, one sided player. He’s ball dominant just like Kobe, and hasn’t shown the ability to adapt his game. He’s essentially the same player he was at Syracuse in a bigger frame with better shooting range. No thanks. I’d rather have Irving or Kevin Love next summer, or possibly this season if the FO works out a trade. No matter what happens, there is a renewed optimism surrounding the Lakers now that D’Antoni is gone and we have a lot more options moving forward. Go Lakers!

    • mark

      You do know that having kyrie and kevin love means you wont have great defense right? Why cant you guys just wait. Exum and/or vonleh

      • comrade24

        well, i said OR. I would love to have either one of those players. Not necessarily both. wouldn’t mind though as long as we had someone like Deng or Ariza coupled with a defensive minded big. Team defense is the most important, more so than individual defensive prowess.

  • Jay Autry Photography

    Expect FO to fumble. All this crap is a pipe dream. They need a big 3 to come in.

    • TheTruthKills

      A big 3 of Melo, Kobe, and LeBron was the original plan/pipe dream, and then Kobe signed his extension.

      • http://www.foxhilldesign.com Josh

        That must have been your pipe dream. The Lakers always intended to pay Kobe handsomely and keep him in LA as the highest paid player in the league. The front office’s plan was to match Kobe with Dwight and CP3.

        • TheTruthKills

          {{espn.go(dotcom) /los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/9484776/los-angeles-lakers-eye-carmelo-anthony-lebron-james-2014}}

          I have no reason to lie Joshua. After Dwight left us high and dry the Lakers started looking at other options. That was the scheme, at least until Kobe took a third of the payroll. Please have a seat.

          • http://www.foxhilldesign.com Josh

            “Front office sources” told ESPN the Lakers wanted “Lebron James OR Carmelo Anthony.” Do we even know if that was someone in the Lakers front office? The rest of the speculation was that the team might be able to pursue two max-level free agents, but for some reason ESPN did not think Kobe was a max-level player. The Lakers clearly felt he was/is.

          • TheTruthKills

            Hmmm should I trust seasoned reporters with access to the Lakers or a fan? And I hate to break this to you, but the only people who think Kobe is a max-level player are the Lakers front office and Kobe himself. Oh and the few “Kobe First” Lakers fans who could care less about the team as long as Kobe is in the spotlight. No one thought Kobe was getting max money. Everyone thought Kobe would take less money to help field a contender. Everyone was shocked when it was announced Kobe was getting $48.5 million for 2 years.

          • http://www.foxhilldesign.com Josh

            Trust the reporter on the reporting. Beyond that, the article was pure speculation. I read it when it first ran, and I read it when you just posted it. The only things that had been reported up to that time were Kobe did not want to take a pay cut, and the Lakers wanted Lebron OR Carmelo. Kobe accepted a compromise that was offered to him; he took about almost a $10 million pay cut and remained the highest paid player. The Lakers can still pursue their plan at the time of that article.

  • Michael E Brown

    Thibs and melo are not going to the lakers hahahahahhaah what a joke ..who reported this rumor .. Needs to be pistol whipped hahah

  • Mitch Kupchak

    Thibs isnt going to be that big of the decision to come to LA, its going to be the roster and heres a realistic one that can come to LA this off season if Drummond isnt offered a contract from Detroit (they dont want one of their big men) or put Bosh at the 5 to save the draft pick to trade for a PG. If they can get Drummond or Bosh and save the draft pick trading it for a PG is the perfect peice to go around Melo and Kobe.
    Possible starting fives:

    PG Nash/Rondo/Irving/Lowry/Bledsoe (Trade draft pick if a C isnt traded for it)
    SG Kobe
    SF Melo
    PF Bosh/Randolph (if dont want Love) or resign Gasol and wait for Love
    C Davis/Drummond/Bosh (Try to sign Drummond in a bidding war or trade for him if not sign Bosh as the 5)

    If Nash is waived the draft pick can be traded for Rondo/Irving or if Phoenix cant match a bid on Bledsoe he could come to LA without trading the draft pick but thats going to be expensive so its best to trade for Rondo or Irving and sign Drummond in a bidding war. More importantly LA needs to get a Center, trading the draft pick away for Anthony Davis or Andre Drummond would be the smart thing to do. Bosh has interest in LA and if we can put him at the 4 he would be even more excited and is already used to taking pay cuts or to just save the draft pick for sure by getting Bosh to come at the 5 and then trade the pick for Love but id rather wait til we can get him for free and trading for a PG now. Zach Randolph could opt out he has a player option and as long as the Center is a young elite Center Bosh or Randolph would be more interested, if not resign Gasol for cheap to be the 4 to either trade away before the deadline or use him til next season til Love comes to LA. Realistically Drummond is tradeable for a draft pick because Detroit needs to get rid of somebody down low but Davis would be the best option but Detroit might not be able to match a bid for Drummond so he might be able to come and still save the draft pick.
    Melo and Kobe at the SF & SG and if the Lakers can get Drummond without using the draft pick waive Nash or put him to the bench and trading the pick for a Point Guard like Rondo or Irving would be perfect. Then next season when Love comes to LA he is at the 4. These options are realistic it just matters if the Lakers can get a Center or Point Guard without using the draft pick to then trade the pick for whichever spot they didnt fill from PG or C that is left open. If the Lakers can get Drummond in a bidding war (and Detroit does want to get rid of somebody) they can trade for Rondo/Irving and then have Gasol at the 4 til Love comes next season
    That 5 would look like: Rondo/Irving, Kobe, Melo, Gasol (Love in 2015), Bosh/Drummond
    Now thats if Mitch can get a Center without trading the draft pick which is a more realistic option from Detroit or just signing Bosh straight away to trade for a PG, then when Love joins them in 2015 that starting 5 will contend with anyone (Drummond would be better then Bosh but Bosh can be a 5)

    • TheTruthKills

      Let me get you a step ladder for all that reaching.

    • comrade24

      There is this thing called a salary cap. Look it up.

    • KingEmperor

      WEak!!!

  • Mitch Kupchak

    Trade the draft pick for Andre Drummond or out bid Detroit for Drummond because they want to get rid of one of their big men, then trading the pick for Rondo or Irving and Rondo or Irving, Kobe, Melo, Gasol (wait for Love in 2015), Bosh/Drummond (Bosh if Drummond is unavailable or is too expensive because a PG will be worth more to trade for if Bosh does want to come to LA)

    • Mitch Kupchak

      PG: Rondo/Irving (Trade away the pick for one of them)
      SG: Kobe
      SF: Melo
      PF: Gasol (to wait for Love in 2015)
      C: Drummond/Bosh (whichever one can come without trading the draft pick, bidding war for Drummond will save us the pick for a PG)

      • mark

        Your team, basically has no defense. Kobe, melo and gasol/love? Kobes as good as finished now(sadly), melo knows nothing about help defense and gasol’s footspeed is getting slower. How bout try and get both exum and vonleh into the lakers and start from there?

        • mark

          Pg: exum
          SG: Kobe
          SF: deng
          PF: vonleh
          C: Drummond
          with this team, we have 3 stars kobe can help groom while hes around. We would have defense and wont have much problems offensively.

          • Levels

            Will I don’t see how the Lakers can get both Exum and Vonleh… and the newest scouting report on Vonleh is out and he has a lot of work to do on his game… I don’t think he is as good as most think…imho

          • KingEmperor

            PG: Exum or Smart
            SG: Kobe Bryant
            SF: Gordon Hayward
            PF: KEvin Love or Blake Griffin
            C : Greg Monroe

    • nlruizjr

      Bosh has never been a physical center, him and Gasol kind of equal each other out, Lakers need that physical type of center with athletic ability.

      • Chrmngblly

        I keep trying to recommend Tyson Chandler. It could be done and I far prefer him to Bosh, Monroe or Davis. Can’t anybody else see Phil going for Pau in the triangle?

        • independentbynature

          I could see Phil going for that the way he loves vets and Pau’s skill set.But,you are assuming Phil isn’t going to blow up this team and rebuild.

          • Chrmngblly

            No one knows for sure but Phil has three things he has to do right away: 1) hire a coach for the triangle. 2) retain CA and 3) get under the salary cap. I assume he will succeed at all three. Others think he will sort of do a rolling overhaul and begin with the highest contract and work down. TC is number two on the list. He has two years left on his contract, which works for us compared to having to overpay some FA with a max deal—plus we could dump Nash.

          • http://www.foxhilldesign.com Josh

            TC has one year left. He’s off the Knicks’ books next summer if they keep him, so that’s the way to go if they are trying to reign in their cap situation. Phil may want Pau, but I keep telling you the Knicks can’t receive a player in a sign-and-trade. If they wait until the deadline, they can trade TC for Pau, but they might prefer to keep the expiring contract over taking on Pau’s new deal.

          • Chrmngblly

            I defer to you and the whiz kids regarding the details. I just present it as a mutually desirable and preferable deal to having to sign Monroe or Davis to high value long term contracts as FAs. My source says 2 years on TC. Either way.

  • LakersHeatBeef

    Sounds good to me lets start getting fucking serious about winning championships again get a top 3 coach Thibs and a top 10 player Carmelo Anthony.

    • Chrmngblly

      Both losers.

    • http://www.foxhilldesign.com Josh

      If you want to get serious about winning championships, think about players who haven’t proven themselves as playoff failures year after year after year after year after…

  • LakersHeatBeef

    DO IT MITCH!

  • Daryl Peek

    B. Scott is the only coach that makes a bit of sense that would satisfy the masses, which you all know (satisfying the masses) I feel is a mistake when it comes to making a business decision. Winning organizations don’t fold to the pressure of the masses, they stick to a plan and persevere allowing winning to sway the vote.

    I like Scott but his style of coaching is not much different than MDA fundamentally. Scott runs up tempo and expects hustle. Scott is a PG heavy driven offense. These are all the things both Kobe and Gasol were in opposition of with MDA. Both Van Gundy’s, George Karl, Jerry Sloan, John Calapari, Ollie, Hollins, Mark Jackson, ETC.. are all heavy PG oriented coaches. Kobe and Pau only have Phil Jackson, Derek Fisher and possibly Kerr who fit their preferred style of play, and Kerr is from the coach Pop tree also, and I’d bet he’s more of that mode than the Jackson (triangle) mold.

    This is the problem. Too many don’t want to accept the game has changed as MDA often said. Until Kobe and Gasol accept this like Duncan did in giving Parker the reigns, the Lakers will fail with the living in the past mindset.

    • Chrmngblly

      My God, DP. You put words in other people’s mouths and then argue against them. Kobe never objected to guard play or small-ball. He objected to no D and losing. Who would mind running an SA-style? THAT’S WHAT I HOPE THEY DO.

      You keep wanting to argue against those who want to live in the past. Did you ever think maybe you are the one living in the past? This game change you are talking about happened years ago when they changed the hand-checking rule. There is more than one correct response to the question of how to play the game, depending on how lucky you get attracting players.

      We won’t really know the answer to that until after the draft and free agency.

      Do you ever agree with most of the fans or are you always an “anti-negativo-type”? Most of us were happy when they finally cut MDA loose. You were not one of us, even though the FO eventually yielded to the pressure of the masses for his release. It was inevitable, DP. I don’t know why you can’t see why.

      • Daryl Peek

        Kobe has never thrived with a ball dominant PG therefore there’s no need to put the words into his mouth. His actions do the speaking.

        • Chrmngblly

          Kobe doesn’t like playing with other gunners, you mean? No shit. Who couldn’t have predicted that? Marshal is much more like Fisher than Van Exel, though, which is on reason why I foresee success, whatever they do. the other reason is I think they move Kobe to the 3.

          Why does every conversation and every paragraph out of your mouth turn into some sort of MDA apologetics lesson? Look at yourself. It is really obvious, DP.

          • Daryl Peek

            When has Nash ever been a gunner? Nash barely averages 10 shots a game for his career. Marshall will not succeed in this league until he gets more aggressive offensively and learns how to attack the paint as a PG.

            Every convo goes MDA viral with me simply because I choose to keep all of the details of things that have affected the team over the past two seasons. All I said today is how many of the other coaching candidates many are pushing run similar offensive styles as he does and that pissed the MDA haters off!

          • Chrmngblly

            That has to do with the current rules and nothing to do with MDA. If you didn’t have your ego so wrapped up in MDAs hemorrhoids, you could see that. You can’t be this emotionally desperate, DP.

          • Daryl Peek

            Again, with the BS?! My ego is not wrapped up in him. The rules dictate moving away from the traditional big man game as the 3 second rule and zone D was implemented to stop all of that. MDA just took advantage of a style of play that works better with the rules. I state that and folks want to run left with it like I’m saying he’s the creator? SMH His peers credit him but that gets lost/ignored in the haterism translation.

          • Chrmngblly

            What did MDA do that everyone else didn’t do? Small-ball was well established long before that. You are mixing his Phoenix glory years up with some really drab performances in the last few years. You are a confused man, DP.

          • independentbynature

            I can answer that.Antoni hired DP to head his PR/propaganda department.

          • Daryl Peek

            MDA influenced his peers. These words come out of their mouths but I’m head of his PR/propaganda department?

          • Chrmngblly

            Absolutely. You are the ButtKisser-in-chief. :-)

          • Chrmngblly

            Also, if you watch Marshall a little more closely, you will start to really like him. He learns. People don’t know how good this kid is going to be yet.

          • Daryl Peek

            I do like KM. I just want him to improve and know if he doesn’t in those said area’s he will be back in the D-League.

          • independentbynature

            Clashed with Nash?How delusional is that?And Farmar left because he felt the triangle was limiting his game.It had absolutely nothing to do with Kobe.You might have to hold me back again,Chrmngblly.LOL.

          • Daryl Peek

            Kobe took the ball out of Nash’s hands. Kobe and Brown were the ones who agreed on the Princeton. Once Nash and Howard were procured that offense should have been scrapped. Even when Nash came back Kobe kept the ball out of his hands for the most part as we never saw the D’Antoni PG driven system. Nash said this in an interview in the off-season. I vividly recall Farmar frustrated with Kobe as Kobe got on him for trying to lead in the offense. Yes the triangle was an issue for Farmar, that and not being able to star over Fisher. Again, it’s all relevant to today as this is why Farmar supported MDA and why Steve Blake was hot like fish grease when Kobe first came back as he took it out on Mike Truedell in a post game interview. Blake was pissed at Kobe going out of the offense in trying to get Gasol going in the two man game that disrupted the offense he was thriving in. This was big time conversation at the time. Better keep hold of yourself…

          • independentbynature

            Kobe was only really ball dominant when Nash was injured.He missed 32 games that year.More DP revisionist history.

          • Daryl Peek

            Nash came back and never got to be the PG he’s always been. Nash said they never ran the MDA system. What’s revisionist history about that? That was because of the Nash injury coupled with Kobe being Kobe. I’m not blaming Kobe because he carried us allowing for that playoff berth but the system issue and ball out of Nash’s hands is what it was.

          • independentbynature

            I like Nash,but he came back a shell of his former self.That is what’s to blame.

          • Daryl Peek

            Nash’s numbers 13/3/7 were far from a shell of himself in 12-13. His assists were the only stat that was down. He was slowed a bit but his shooting was off the chart. Howard’s refusal to run PNR was a big issue as far as Nash and the offense goes and there was no way things were gonna find normality at that point of the season as indifference was full tilt between Kobe and D12. Both Nash and Kobe were done with him and it was crazy to see Nash vocally against a player like that.

            Who’s recalling history through a revisionist lens now?

          • independentbynature

            I’m not bashing Nash.He did the best he could.And you are the one looking through the rose colored glasses,as you always do,Daryl.Those are not great numbers for Nash.Who’s putting words in someone else’s mouth now?

          • Daryl Peek

            Again, Nash’s assist are the only numbers that were down. His stat line was the same in 11-12 and he was arguably the best PG in the league that season before becoming a Laker the next season.

            To harp on the masses again, most act like Nash was in decline at the time of the trade but he was far from that in reality. It’s selective memory instances like this why I dissent from the masses.

          • independentbynature

            If you really understood basketball on more than a superficial level,you’d know that evaluating Nash by his physical movement and not his stats,is what tells the story.This is not fantasy league.

          • Daryl Peek

            Numbers never lie. Nash’s movements didn’t limit him til he broke his leg as a Laker. Even then he fought through that and performed at a high level in 50 games last season. A players performance is more than just his health as we’ve seen with both Kobe and Nash over their long careers. This is what you need to get your b-ball knowledge up on. Kobe will fail next season according to your logic.

          • independentbynature

            Spoken like a bean counter.But life is not a set of books.Numbers often lie.Especially when you take them out of context as you always do.It takes a CPA to analyze the numbers and you’re just a book keeper,Daryl.No offense to any book keepers who may read this.LOL.

          • Daryl Peek

            I bet Kobe’s glad you’re not keeping the Lakers books. You’d have him off to the glue factory already. Here’s to past prime analytic’s forecasting. #YourWelcome

          • independentbynature

            If you’re going to cite stats,then use one that matters.PER.And Kobe’s numbers have not declined.So,I,like you yourself,have no idea what you are talking about.I only keep books for my business.As a former athlete,I know that stats only tell part of the story.Stats are really for fantasy league and those non athletes who want to think they know something about sports that they never played.I look at athleticism differently than you do.

          • Daryl Peek

            As a former athlete I know this also but Nash was much more than stats in his impact last season. If not for his shooting the floor would not have been spaced enough for Kobe to do him with both Howard and Gasol clogging the middle. Remember Kobe basically said to hell with Howard and no longer tried to keep him in the offensive flow. Kobe played off Nash and Gasol when he finally came back.

          • independentbynature

            Sorry,I didn’t figure you as another old jock like me who dreams about the glory days gone by.I agree with all you said,except that Kobe no longer tried to keep Howard involved.That’s just not true.He was always looking to feed him for lobs.You know,Dwight is not very skilled in the low post and tends to turn the ball over when he’s doubled.I’m sure that upset Kobe.But,I did not see him try to freeze Dwight out of the offense,as some have said.Kobe does take over when he feels the need,though.He was the only reason they made the playoffs.If you’re going to start agreeing with me,I’ve had enough.It just doesn’t feel right.I must be doing something wrong.

          • Daryl Peek

            LMBO! Well let me reassure you we still agree to disagree as both Kobe and Nash said they basically kicked Howard to the side. Kobe went out of his way to get Howard involved early on but after Memphis he was done with all of that. Keep in mind Kobe will never be so petty he’d hurt the team for a personal vendetta with a teammate. Wins is all that matters and Howard was still a vital part of the team. Kobe while indifferent with Shaq in how and who it should run through still worked with him.

          • independentbynature

            I agree….to disagree.LOL….On most subjects(Antoni and Jimmy Buss),at least

      • Levels

        Could not have said it better!

      • http://www.foxhilldesign.com Josh

        Kobe said he doesn’t like small-ball. He said he doesn’t like playing from the perimeter in, he likes inside-out basketball.

        • Chrmngblly

          Where did he say that? Besides, who wouldn’t prefer to have a center capable of drawing the defenders in?

          • http://www.foxhilldesign.com Josh

            “It’s more of a finesse game,” Bryant said before the Lakers played the Chicago Bulls on Monday. “It’s more small ball, which, personally, I don’t really care much for. I like kind of smash-mouth, old-school basketball because that’s what I grew up watching.”

          • Chrmngblly

            Oh that. He’s speaking historically. Even DP, or especially DP, probably, would tell you that Bruiser-Ball is dead. They changed the rules, Josh. They put in the 3-point line and lately, they outlawed hand-checking and allowed zone defense, etc.

            With regard to what’s in the rules today, I don’t think Kobe cares that much. I just think he wants to win.

    • http://www.foxhilldesign.com Josh

      Do we know that Scott is a PG-heavy coach? Or do we just think that because his teams have featured JKidd, CP3, and Kyrie Irving? We haven’t seen him with a roster that didn’t feature a premier–I use the term loosely with Kyrie–point guard.

      If Pau stays, he and Kobe can run some two-man offensive sets in the midst of all the pick-and-roll that is dictated by any coach. They have the basketball IQ to do their own thing without completely breaking down the offensive game plan.

      Most of the coaches the masses are clamoring for are garbage. I like Scott, though, assuming he can cut back on practices for the older players. If he expects Kobe and Nash to participate in Mike Brown type practices, he needs to keep his microphone.

      • Daryl Peek

        I believe Scott is a PG heavy HC as he was groomed Showtime with Magic and that is his base. This is why he succeeded with the likes of Kidd and CP3. Irving was very young and that situation was doomed as LeBron bounced.

        Agreed on Kobe and Pau and that has been my stance all along even with D’Antoni. This is where I get into it with those who believe MDA was not flexible, when he was. The Howard Gasol situation was more than just MDA trying to make Pau into a stretch 4 as most contend. The FO was ready to jettison Pau if Howard and Kobe could have coexisted and Nash had been healthy. Pau’s Lakers tenure was extended by all that proceeded in injuries and bad team chemistry. This is what most don’t want to acknowledge in slicing up MDA in the blame game of thrones.

        Agreed on B. Scott and somewhat on your contention of other coaches the masses are clamoring for, I just wont go so far to call them garbage. They are no better than MDA IMO and if that constitutes garbage in some’s eyes then they all are what they call D’Antoni, #Ringless.

        Patience’s has been my calling card since 12-13 when the super team effort imploded. It was obvious at that point that is where the franchise was but too many want blood instead of engaging an adult conversation on what needs to be done to recapture solid ground.

  • adrian

    A farfetched idea I have is lakers signing Spencer hawes and plug-in Ryan Kelly at the Pf with a team that has
    Pg: Jordan farmar Sg:kb24 Sf:melo Pf: Kelly C: Spencer hawes.
    Now stay with me because I know doesn’t look good on paper but I’m thinking of maximizing how many iso opportunities that Kobe and melo have and a team even dareto help they are going to pay with all these threats from outside. Ryan Kelly has shown that he can be ok in help defense situations and hawes is ok too. If thibodeau can actually make a good defense out of team then this could work very well.

    • Daryl Peek

      You just put together a starting 5 MDA would love outside of Melo. LOL

      • adrian

        Lol I realize that, but I want this team play in halfcourt sets not like dantoni. Idk it’s just a thought it has holes like rebounding definitely. Makes me wish we had Ryan Anderson over Ryan Kelly, then I can see it working alittlle more but whatever.

      • Chrmngblly

        You MDA ButtKisser. Move on.

        • Daryl Peek

          You court jester, get over yourself.

          • mark

            Both kelly and hawes are MEH defensively. The thing about defense is you gotta have that DeAndre Jordan in the middle. Something that will scare teams from driving in the lane. I dont see that happening with hawes and kelly. And why does all laker fans want melo? He’s freakin 29 years old! 3 more years of prime. Why not just keep the draft pick and plan for 10 years not 3 years.

    • independentbynature

      Antoni would love it,alright.Not a defender among them.

  • independentbynature

    Any business that thinks “satisfying the masses,” is a mistake,is not a business that wants to stay in business.That’s an idea from someone who has never owned their own business.Or at least not for long.

  • Rigged4fun

    Unfortunately I don’t expect to see Chicago letting go of Thibs nor do I expect or want Anthony on the Lakers. Thibs would be the optimal in coaching for us.

    • Chrmngblly

      No way. Thibs is just another crabby white man to me. I don’t like him.

      • Rigged4fun

        Race doesn’t qualify anyone for the job, yet you had to bring it up…. How about enlightening us with your candidate?

      • Daryl Peek

        WOW?!?

        • Chrmngblly

          I can say that because I am a crabby white guy, myself. Am I right? Black dudes call each other the N-word all the time, even though I don’t plan to try it anytime soon…:-)

          I like Doc Rivers, Kevin Ollie, Lionell Hollins, Fish and Byron Scott but not necessarily in that order. There’s only two white guys in that group.

          • Daryl Peek

            I like most all of those coaching candidates. The thing I worry about is will our superstars give them a chance to lead? I can’t roll with Fisher as he would likely just be a lame duck coach to appease the masses and Kobe. I can’t say for sure he would fail but with no previous coaching experience, what more would he be as our coach?

            I like Hollins old school ways but there’s a reason no other team requested his services this past season? Ollie is staying at Uconn IMO and should as he needs to hone his craft a bit in building tenure on his resume.

            The N-word is unacceptable in my book!

          • Chrmngblly

            Good. Finally something we agree on. Maybe this is too scary a subject to even poke fun at, though. I don’t know.

          • independentbynature

            I wouldn’t brag about that if I were you.You’re just one of “the masses” to DP.

          • Chrmngblly

            Yes. I am just another sheep to DP….:-(

          • Chrmngblly

            I guess the way you analyze it the only one we can turn to is MDA. Right? Is that what you are saying?

          • Daryl Peek

            No! I never said that or even contended MDA was my favorite type of coach. I’m old school but I realize that style of play has been legislated out of the game since 03 and the zone D/ three second defensive rules change. That and the offensive 5 second rule. The league in general is adopting more of a collegiate/Euro rules landscape. This is where MDA got in where he fit in and that’s all I’ve tried to convey.

          • Chrmngblly

            So something great and wonderful MdA supposedly did 11 years ago is just now being implemented? What has he done for us lately? You are confused over what he did 20 years ago that was even more wonderful…I just forget what it was, though.

          • Daryl Peek

            “what he did 20 years ago” ?

            Again, MDA’s peers credit him for changing they way they coach offense. Those are their words not mine. If you’all have beef take it up with the likes of LeBron, Pop, Spoelstra, West, ETC…

  • independentbynature

    The idiocy of some commenters just goes on and on.Trust me,Byron Scott’s coaching style is nothing like Antoni.He is a Riley disciple.What can you expect from people who compare Antoni with showtime.It’s ludicrous.

    • Chrmngblly

      DP is getting on my nerves. Everything that comes up he has some further comment about how MDA has been proved right about something else. Geezuz.

      • independentbynature

        He’s truly delusional.He reminds me of some college professors,who although intelligent,don’t have a lick of common sense.Pin heads with a PHD(Piled Higher and Deeper)

  • independentbynature

    Anyone who watched the Lakers broadcasts on TWSC,knows how critical and disgusted Byron Scott was with the Lakers style of play under Antoni.Why would anyone think the two are even remotely similar?Notice that all the pseudo similarities are on offense.Never a mention of defense.That’s consistent with the Antoni smallball fanboys.

    • Levels

      Exactly, Coach Miller and J. Worthy both agreed that B.Scott was defensive minded and the high pressure D is to create fast break opportunities i.e Show Time Lakers… and Dave Miller would know being Byron’s asst…

      • independentbynature

        Scott is exactly the kind of coach you would expect as a Riley disciple.DP thinks that because coaches refrain from criticism of their peers,that they are approving their performance.He’s never heard of professional courtesy.As evidenced from his snarky,condescending comments towards all of us who don’t drink the Antoni kool aid.

  • Sti1lmatic

    How about Jerry Sloan or Coach Carl

  • Daryl Peek

    The stupidity of those that are living in denial is comical. B. Scott defends D’Antoni saying he couldn’t have done better himself given the circumstances of his tenure and all of the injuries. Scott’s Nets were small ball period! The line up he fielded in those finals against the Lakers and Pistons is one that MDA would love to have. Showtime was the same in principle as what MDA does minus the heavy three point focus. An uptempo heavy PG driven offense is the commonality these dummies can’t wrap there minds around. The AAU and college games have been PG driven for the last two plus years and it has now caught up the the NBA game.

    • Daryl Peek

      B. Scott was on Max and Marcellus defending MDA against Max who goes in on MDA harder than any.

    • TheTruthKills

      MDA is gone and he’s not coming back. Time to move on.

      • Daryl Peek

        Agreed but the madness of denial goes on… the mindset clouds there commentary of future prospects

        • TheTruthKills

          Who’s your ideal candidate? I’d like to see Ettore Messina get the job.

          • independentbynature

            He wants Antoni back.Can’t you tell?

          • Daryl Peek

            I’d like Scott or Calipari.

          • independentbynature

            Only if he can convince you that Antoni taught Scott everything he knows.

      • independentbynature

        Yeah,the madness of denial sure does go on and on and on.Antoni’s fanboys refuse to let it go.

        • Levels

          It’s sad bro, I’m with you…it’s like watching a bad movie on repeat… MDA is done…he may very well be done in the NBA…

          • independentbynature

            It reminds me of that movie,Groundhog Day.He lives the same day over and over and over.DP = Bill Murray.LOL.

          • Levels

            That’s the name I was looking for….Groundhog Day…lol

    • Shawn Numba-Nine Thornton

      um u do know the nets that year had kidd 6’5 , kitties 6’7 . rj 6’7. kenyon martin 6’9 and mutumbo 7’1 how is that small ball

      • Daryl Peek

        B. Scott ran uptempo with Van Horn a stretch 4. Height has nothing to do with small ball as it’s more about skill sets, and that is why MDA often refers to it as Skilled ball VS. small ball.

        Kidd, Kittles, Jefferson, Van Horn and Martin ran fast pace open court b-ball

  • independentbynature

    Some delusional Antoni fanboys think that every time a team runs a fastbreak or makes a 3ptr.,that we should bow down and praise Antoni as the father of modern basketball.It’s delusional and comical at best.

  • Daryl Peek

    Some denial MDA haters can’t accept the place the NBA game is in and do all they can to discredit the man who is widely credited for it. His adversary professional peers all give him that distinction but theses haters dispute their assertions?

    • Levels

      Okay, this will be the last time I ever speak on this due to you have no idea what your talking about. You think you know everything but you don’t. I’m starting to think you say idiotic stuff to start crap! Just for education MDA isn’t widely known for small ball, The Originator of small ball, is… was…. Don Nelson in 1976 with the Bucks…also called Nellie Ball…. the run-n-gun style which isn’t a offence or a system was “created” by Doug Moe when he was with the Nuggets.. Stop posting about basketball, pro, college or high school…you are a joke in Laker Nation now…you and Hook…

      • independentbynature

        You know I’m with you on this one,brother.DP and Hook really believe this revisionist history of basketball they are trying to sell us.You can’t fix delusional.

      • Daryl Peek

        By Felicia…

        I never said MDA invented anything but most of his peers all credit him for changing the way they coach offensive basketball.

  • JohnSmith00

    I feel that bringing either or both would be too high of a price, Chicago will likely look to ask for the 1st round pick for thibs, which is absurd considering there are plenty of other competent coaches out there that can be had for no assets given. As for Carmelo he would make the Lakers a contender it doesn’t change the fact that he’s entering the stage of his career where he’s past him prime. It’s too much of a risk and a same win now mentality that got the Lakers into the mess they’re in.

  • Skinny Jay

    Lololololol, no

  • independentbynature

    Doug Moe is the original pioneer of smalball.Some Antoni fans think he invented basketball before Naismith.And Moe never won a championship with it,either.

  • Daryl Peek

    The ABA is where the three point shot and uptempo offense started as they used it to compete against the NBA for fan fare. No one ever said D’Antoni invented the wheel! These haters are so stuck on stupid? MDA simply utilized bits and pieces of all of that in conjunction with NBA rules changes that favor that style of play, to his advantage and it caught on as others assimilated parts of it also. This is why the dominant big man is all but extinct in today’s game and the PF position is forever changed. Again, MDA coaching peers and even players credit him but I know, that means nothing as delusional fans and bloggers know more than those getting paid to compete on the highest level of basketball.

    • Levels

      Again, WRONG! MDA brought the Euro style to the NBA where they all use a “stretch 4″… he’s been coaching like that way before he coached in the NBA, educate yourself before posting bro… You know never mind…. I’m just going to ignore you…have a good one bro…smh

      • Daryl Peek

        Please do ignore me. I’m begging you!! The Euro style is just a spin-off of what the ABA was. And miss me with your insults!! I have not disrespected you in that way.

        • independentbynature

          Begging is undignified.I keep trying to tell my dog that,but he doesn’t listen,either.

          • Daryl Peek

            Sniffing up behind someones azz stalking them for dung is unbecoming of human nature. I guess some’s higher brain functions don’t always lead.

          • independentbynature

            Is that what you are doing with your nose up Antoni’s behind,Daryl?

          • Daryl Peek

            No but you are with me.

          • independentbynature

            I can see how you might make that mistake.Your comments do resemble something that might come out of your rear end.But you,are the only one sniffing here.The brown nose is yours alone.I’m sure Antoni can feel you,bro.I’ve got the lysol out trying to clear the air of the smell your comments exude.

          • Daryl Peek

            The stench you perceive is all in what you want to believe. For me, I don’t believe in following what I perceive as feces.

          • independentbynature

            You are a contrarian,Daryl.If the sign says right turn only,you turn left.You follow whatever path is against the grain.Nothing wrong with going your own way,but your insistence that everyone else is wrong as you speed down the one way street in the wrong direction,is self-deluded.

          • Lakers Fan

            You and Daryl’s arguments are hilarious my friend. Lmaooooo

          • independentbynature

            This is how it goes with us.LOL.

  • independentbynature

    No need for defense,rebounding or low post play any more,folks.Bigs are no longer important.Didn’t you all know that Duncan is a stretch 4.Antoni is the father of all this.All hail Antoni,the greatest basketball innovator of all time.Thanks coach Pringles.Now,enjoy your time off.

  • Daryl Peek

    Defense will always be needed. That’s just plain stupid to even mesh that into the mix but it’s funny how the NBA has removed the center from the all-star ballot?

  • independentbynature

    What’s just plain stupid is to worship Antoni,a coach who has never won anything,as the God of basketball.The lack of quality centers is more accurately responsible for the elimination of the position on allstar ballots.Star forwards were being left out for average centers.A traditional power forward,not a stretch 4,does much the same things as a center.Rim protection,rebounding and low post offense.Like Duncan,the anti-stretch four who many consider the greatest power forward ever.Basketball fundamentals have been sacrificed for ESPN highlights.This is mostly due to rookies who come to the league based on their potential and are not really ready for prime time yet.Some laud this as a desirable innovation and the present and future state of NBA basketball.I do not.

    • Levels

      And you have shut it down!!! Thank you! There is no arguing that point… very well stated!

      • independentbynature

        DP will find a way.Groundhog day isn’t over yet.LOL.

  • Daryl Peek

    BTW, this back and forth was not started by me. As usual some BUM took offense to one of my posts and decided to get personal in retort. So much for ignoring me?

  • independentbynature

    Calling people “BUM” is not at all personal.I just call those people HYPOCRITES in response.

  • Daryl Peek

    When stones are constantly thrown you better expect them to be thrown back. Can’t be a hypocrite when you’re defending yourself.

  • independentbynature

    When your comments resemble fairy tales that should begin with “Once upon a time,” you will be called out on it.Defend your fantasies all you want.They are still fantasy.

  • Daryl Peek

    Again, the ignore option is not an option as some say it will be and there would be no need for defense if it was the case from the jump. Misunderstanding always start when someone makes it personal from the jump.

    • independentbynature

      Yes,and you did that from the very first comment I made.

      • Daryl Peek

        Not today. You started the ISH

        • independentbynature

          Your delusions are annoying to all of us who don’t drink the Antoni koolaid.And your comments are always laced with an arrogant condemnation of “the mob,” that you look down on from your perch on Mount Olympus.

          • Daryl Peek

            Again my initial comment today had nothing to do with you but you chose to give your underhanded jab at me. Thus the starting of it all. I said nothing of the mob and did not condemn anyone. I just stated I don’t think the FO should go with the masses in making a basketball operation decision and you caught fire over it?

          • independentbynature

            All you did was change “the Mob,” to “the Masses”.It’s the same thing.Do you even realize how arrogant and condescending you are?There was nothing underhanded about my comment.You asked me not to reply to you.I was honoring your request.That does not mean I’m going to allow your comments to go unchallenged.You would take my silence as my tacit agreement with you,like you do B. Scott not wanting to roast the incompetent job Antoni did.”The Masses,” as you call the fans,are the ones who pay the bills.That’s why the NBA is in business.DUH?Any business that ignores it’s customers,is not in business for long.I’m guessing you were not a business major and have never owned your own business.Diplomacy is not exactly your forte,either.At least according to “the Masses.”

          • Daryl Peek

            I really could care less about your feelings. I do me in my commentary and only respond to those who decide to get personal with me in the name calling game.

            B. Scott did more than not roast MDA. He flat out defended him on the Max and Marcellus show, and many Laker fans grew cold on him for doing so.

            Dr. Buss ignored his customers as far as FO baskeball operations decisions goes his entire tenure as Lakers owner. He spoke on that in an interview as he cites himself as a fan also who felt the same as many but understands the difference that the responsibility of leading calls for as public perceptions of what’s going on are different than what actually goes on behind closed doors.

            Dr. Buss told his children to keep that and they are as Phil is not part of the future of the franchise for that very reason.

          • independentbynature

            Dr. Buss did not ignore his customers.Please,Daryl,I was at the Forum for almost every game.He was the first to add dancers,as in the Lakers Girls to entertain the fans(masses/mob).Magic was drafted for a showtime type of basketball that would excite the fans(masses/Mob).That’s what showtime was all about.Remember Dancing Barry?Dr. Buss was all about the fans(masses/mob).That’s what made him successful and special.You are truly delusional.You’ve made this same ludicrous remark many times before to back up your own insane business strategy of ignoring your customers(masses/mob).Your hatred of the people(masses/mob) who pay to watch basketball permeates your every comment.How’s the air up there on Mount Olympus?We’re having a drought down here.Can you make it rain for us?And please don’t pee on us anymore.

          • Daryl Peek

            I don’t hate the masses you keep putting words in my mouth? I just don’t agree with much of them.
            GTFOH with the BS man!

            Go listen to Dr. Buss’s 2005 interview with Michael Eaves and you’ll hear the truth from his mouth on fan perception of things VS. what he did as an owner. Dr. Buss forced Phil out against popular opinion. Dr. Buss fired Westhead against popular opinion. Dr. Buss told his children Phil was not to be a part of the FO against popular opinion. Dr. Buss absolutlely wanted to please his patrons with a fresh exciting product on the court, I. E. Showtime. Stop taking what I’m saying out of context. Dr. Buss led the way he saw fit regardless of popular opinion.

          • independentbynature

            They are your words.You take every text out of context,leaving you with nothing but pretext.

          • Daryl Peek

            The context of my pretext is again proven in the actions of Dr. Buss. Again he was the one who went against the grain several times over the years. History is something you and many like to selectively revise.

          • independentbynature

            You take one interview about one thing,take it out of context and then form your pretext.

          • Daryl Peek

            Dr. Buss did two interviews on said topic and his message was the same. His actions lined up with his words as I showed you. The pretext is based off a proof read of actions.

          • independentbynature

            It’s based on your out of context interpretation formulated to back up your preconceived opinion.Not objective at all and not relevant to this situation.Jimmy Buss has not had the success his father had making decisions.They are apples and oranges.Rotten apples in Jimmy’s case.

          • independentbynature

            Your narcissism is on full display.No need to tell me you don’t care about people’s feelings,except for Antoni’s,of course.What an ego you have.I guess that insulates you from reality.

          • Devon Samuels²⁴

            I won’t lie I enjoy your back and fourth lol

  • KingEmperor

    This is my roster for the LA Lakers:

    Starting 5 players:
    PG: Marcus Smart 3
    SG: Kobe Bryant 24
    SF: Gordon Hayward 20
    PF: Kevin Love 42
    C : Greg Monroe 10

    Bench players:
    PG: Jordan Farmar 1 / Jerryd Bayless 7
    SG: Nick Young 0
    SF: Wesley Johnson 11
    PF: Jordan Hill 27 / Tyrus Thomas 12
    C : Emeka Okafor 50

    Coach: Lionel Hollins or Tom Thibodeau

    I only listed 12 players but the Lakers can add another 3 player so they can have the maximum roster in NBA..

  • Reality

    Seems the Lakers organization is desperate to be remotely relevant again. Stupid BS “rumors” like this shouldn’t even be acknowledged.

    • Daryl Peek

      Agreed. all it does is bring out the speculation and fuel arguments. I’m guilty of buying in.

  • thegoodzz

    Thibs aint going anywhere you dumb fuckers. He’s under contract and he loves his team. Its a family over here #Bullsnation

  • Lakers4Life

    I’d much rather see LeBron in LA instead of Melo, though I wouldn’t mind even further if both are on our team. As long as we have a coach far, far unlike Dumbtoni, we should be good.

  • Michael R

    We can’t play defense now! What are we going to do with Carmelo? One ball hog is enough.

  • Gary

    Melo doesn’t play D, and Kobe’s D has fallen off as well even before the injuries. If they sign Pau again, expect this team to score 100pts but give up just as much if not more, even if Thibs is the coach.

  • KB24

    This never gonna happen if our pick is a top 3 pick and if we trade our future picks for exum…..and please….WE DONT NEED MELO…….MELO DOES NOT NEED US AND HE WILL STAY TO NYK……DURANT WONT COME TO LALERS IF WE HAVE MELO DUH

  • KB24

    One more thing he uses 8 or 9 player…..we need a coach like him who uses 10-11 man rotation,glad if he will be in the lakers but when this happens, he better use 10 or more with kobe not playing more than 33

  • Iam TheWalrus

    just another rumor. things wont really materialize til after the nba finals is over.

  • Witt2277

    This is ludicrous!! Thibs and Anthony would be better off in Chicago. Laker fans are living in a fantasy world and reality is soon to kick them square in the chest lol!

  • Glenn Derricotte

    We dont have the draft picks to give for thibs!!

  • Glenn Derricotte

    I would like to see hollins or hoiberg

  • ‘James Edwards

    Lol so all u fans all season long were complaining about Te lack of defense….and now u same fans want Carmelo Anthony?? Lol ok

    • Dean

      And..they want Pau Gasol back too Lol. It’ll be the same next year then, Lakers score 115, but they give up 130.

    • TheTruthKills

      Nash and Kobe can’t defend either, but you don’t complain about them.

    • kookiebuger

      I don’t want Melo or Gasol back but some fans are looking for a quick fix and hope that they will all work together and become title contenders.

  • SoCoolCurt

    Lakers to pair up Carmelo Anthony with Kobe Bryant…..in other news, the Lakers will also campaign for a rule change, allowing them to play with 2 basketballs…..

    Seriously though, Carmelo is a great talent but I think they can find a better compliment to Kobe than Melo. They really need to take advantage of this high draft pick more than anything. They always find a way to get back to the top, and the groundwork seems to set with the cap and high pick, so I’m not overly concerned with the recent lull.

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