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When Mike D’Antoni took the head coaching position with the Los Angeles Lakers, the city of Los Angeles was not thrilled. Everyone wanted Phil Jackson and when the team struggled for most of the season, every move D’Antoni made was quickly criticized.

According to the Los Angeles Times’ Mike Bresnahan, D’Antoni understands how much Phil Jackson meant to the Lakers organization and fanbase:

“Had that bothered me, I shouldn’t have taken the job because you know it’s going to be there. I wasn’t stupid enough to think that, ‘Oh, they won’t remember him.’ Sure they will. It doesn’t affect what we do day-to-day and how we approach the game.”

Despite all the noise, D’Antoni still has the support of Jim Buss and Mitch Kupchak and it has enabled him to concentrate on the task at hand:

“Mitch and Jim Buss were really supportive and great. I couldn’t ask for anything better from the staff and franchise. I don’t want to be flippant, but you also have to have an attitude of, ‘To hell with everything. Concentrate. Go forward.’ You can’t get distracted by the noise.”

After a difficult first season as the head coach, D’Antoni is excited about the potential of this year’s team. There are new additions who are willing to learn and he believes everyone will be comfortable with their roles since the uncertainty has disappeared.

With better chemistry, D’Antoni believes the defense will also improve and the Lakers should be able to win more games if they stay healthy.

This off-season, Mike D’Antoni took a step in the right direction by hiring defensive coordinator, Kurt Rambis. There are very few coaches currently in the NBA whose strengths are on both sides of the court. Many usually hire an offensive or defensive coordinator to minimize their weaknesses on one side of the court and it’s encouraging that D’Antoni has finally realized his.

In his first season with the Lakers, D’Antoni went 40-32 and has two more guaranteed years remaining on his contract.

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  • LakersBuss

    That’s a great way of thinking by Mike D’Antoni.Pops struggled early on in his coaching career.Erik Spoelstra endured a 15-67 season only to recently win back to back championships.Chuck Daly had losing seasons as a NBA coach.

    Phil Jackson had some average seasons coaching the Lakers in 2006 and 2007 also Dallas swept his Lakers in the playoffs.MDA has his many haters and he will be just fine when he proves them wrong once he wins a NBA championship with his style of coaching.

    Every great championship coach has usually struggled at some point in their coaching careers.MDA will be just fine as Lakers coach and Mike D’Antoni has my full support.Lakers Nation is the best and we support the Lakers together!Go Lakers!

    • 3339

      Spoelstra wasn’t the head coach when the Heat went 15-67. Pop, Spo, and Daly have all proved that when they have a talented team, they can successfully manage it

      • hookedonnews

        If Eric Spoelstra didn’t have LeBron James, I doubt that he would have won a championship. I don’t think you can put him in the same conversation as Greg Popovich. Maybe on down the road when he has won a championship without LeBron, but not now. Mike Brown got to the Finals with LeBron and not much else. I don’t think anyone is ready to compare Brown to Pop. It’s not surprising that Miami has won 2 championships with LeBron, Wade, and Bosh. I’m not saying Spoelstra is not a good coach. Just saying he hasn’t proven he can win without LeBron.

        • richard

          and I believe Pop hasn’t won anything wihtout Duncan… your argument doesn’t hold that much… that’s pointless.. any coach will not will without all stars in the lineup… you may say of the Detriot pistons that defeated the Lakers in 2003.. but that team was loaded.. they had 4 all star during that championship run… Pat Riley didn’t win anything without Magic and the gang… etc

          • Eddie Lazaro

            Ignorant bandwagoneers will point out things that are irrelevant or pointless to make a case. Never do their research and watch too many highlights where they based their arguments. Pitting Kobe vs Lebron, Mike vs Kobe, Phil vs everybody. It is just absurd. Why not just enjoy what they are offering, after all, we are all entertained.

            It is a different era, a different game, with different scenarios. There are just too many variables, factoring that we can not compare one with the other, but still, they find ways (with their ignorance) to argue reality and facts vs unsubstantiated claims they have. They maybe wrong but will never agree to that no matter what, since they know it all. WE can not win them all.

    • Common Sense

      Dallas swept ‘his’ Lakers?!

      Nah. His Lakers had a healthy Kobe Bryant. All the difference in the world.

      • Oreo

        You must not have seen the 2011 Nba playoffs where the dalllas mavericks won their first NBA title.. Dallas swept the Lakers under Phil Jackson.. That’s the truth!!

  • bill

    Why do you say “…finally realized his (weakness)”. That was Mike Brown’s staff last year (and Steve Clifford was suppose to be the defensive guy) and during his tenure at Phoenix, they were doing fairly well, making the playoffs. D’antoni doesn’t strike me as a guy who fires and hires people at the drop of the pin, this isn’t rotisserie basketball.

    • Dan Duangdao

      You’re absolutely right about it being Mike Brown’s staff last year as Mike D’Antoni decided to keep them. During this summer, some of the assistants left for other jobs and some were let go.

      When it comes to finally realizing his weakness, the Suns wanted D’Antoni to hire Tom Thibodeau as his defensive coordinator and he refused. With the Knicks, he was forced to eventually hire Mike Woodson. When he became the head coach of the Lakers, it was rumored from the very beginning that he wanted to add a defensive coordinator in the offseason and eventually hired Kurt Rambis.

      • hookedonnews

        I don’t know why you say he was “forced” to hire Mike Woodson. That’s not the story I heard. No, he didn’t want to hire Thibodeau, but that was about 10 years ago and you don’t know the details. Clifford was the defensive coach this season. D’Antoni made it clear early on that defense was a priority.

        • http://LakersNation.com/ Dan Duangdao

          There’s an emphasis on defense now because of his past experiences with the Suns and Knicks. I’m really glad that he’s been talking about defense since he was hired. At the end of the day, it’s on the players to perform and D’Antoni can only be blamed for so much. I understand where he was coming from this past season and hopes he does well this season.

          We’ll never know what happened behind closed doors in Phoenix and New York, but here’s what was reported at the time:

          “D’Antoni and the Suns parted ways after Phoenix lost a first round series to the San Antonio Spurs in 2008. D’Antoni was upset that then-general manager Steve Kerr was pushing him to hire a defensive assistant. A year earlier, Kerr suggested Tom Thibodeau for the job but D’Antoni resisted. Thibodeau eventually joined Doc Rivers’ staff and the Boston Celtics went on to win the NBA Championship and reach the Finals twice in three years.”

          “D’Antoni, who has resisted bringing in an outsider to his coaching staff, would be forced to hire a defensive coach because of the Knicks’ failures at that end during his first three seasons in New York.”

          • Daryl Peek

            D’Antoni Lakers gave up 101 points a game.

            Mike Browns 11-12 Lakers 95.9
            Phil’s 10-11 Lakers 95.4
            Phil’s 09-10, 97 Champs
            Phil’s 08-09, 99.3 Champs
            Phil’s 07-08, 101.3 Finals
            Phil’s 00-01, 97.2 Champs

            As you can see the defense philosophy is not that big of a problem by the numbers and not much different bottom line. Team chemistry is the main difference. If we can improve that, more wins will follow.

            D’Antoni’s Suns were the same defensively as the Showtime Lakers. Riley a defensive minded rebound first gritty HC never saw his Laker allow under 103.9 points a game, which happened to be 89-90 his last season as Lakers HC.

            Offensive philosophy shapes the defensive ceiling. The Showtime Lakers gave up 109 points on average during many of the championship teams.

          • hookedonnews

            I don’t think either one of those statements are accurate. I don’t think the Thibodeau thing was the reason D’Antoni left. I have read that myself, but I don’t think that’s the case. That was one thing in a whole series of things that happened with the Suns. D’Antoni was upset when they brought in Shaq. It destroyed team chemistry, and he was not consulted about it. They had let so many of their good players go, and I believe the Shaq deal was the last straw. I also reject the characterizations about D’Antoni’s first 3 seasons with the Knicks. There are a lot of things written that are simply not true. Of course, D’Antoni is not going to have the same approach with today’s Lakers that he had with the 2004 Suns. What bugs me are the people who are constantly parroting the “D’Antoni doesn’t care about defense” line like it was gospel when he was constantly talking about defense all season. Ninety-nine percent of those people are unaware that the Lakers had a defensive assistant who I’m told is a good defensive coach. There is way too much conventional wisdom masquerading as journalism when it comes to Mike D’Antoni.

  • 3339

    He can say whatever he wants, but I just don’t see the Lakers succeeding the way we all know they can under him. Lakers need to get someone in here that won’t keep coming up with excuse after excuse. Someone who can establish a great relationship with the players. Someone that actually can control and successfully manage those million dollar egos. This is a players league. The coaches need to be able to connect with them and put them in the best position to succeed. I don’t see that in dantoni. I’m not criticizing dantoni just because he isn’t Phil Jackson or Brian Shaw, I just don’t see champion in him. I don’t care what anyone says, dantoni should not be coaching the Lakers.
    This should have been Brian Shaw’s job as soon as the 2011 season ended in dallas.

    • Daryl Peek

      What’s done is done. What are you gonna do? Support your team or keep crying? GO LAKERS

      • 3339

        Nobody’s crying. I’m supporting the team by pointing out the way to help fix it.

        • Daryl Peek

          No your not. D’Antoni is our HC. How is constantly bashing our HC coupled with sulking over B. Shaw helping?

          • 3339

            The Lakers need a leader. dantoni is not that guy. Never was that guy. Brian Shaw was a great opportunity that they blew. A young coach that can relate to players and develop relations with them and mentored by the greatest ever. Now they need to search harder for another coach. dantoni is not the right guy. Lakers are just wasting time and becoming a laughing stock. If they get the right coach then they can start moving forward now

          • Daryl Peek

            I trip off fans who think they know more than the people in their paid profession. Having an opinion is one thing but saying you know better is another.

            I’m past the triangle era and Phil but I never bashed his coaching acumen. I’m not a huge D’antoni fan but the guy knows basketball. There’s a reason 90% of the NBA is using his system principles.

            Shaw is a good young coaching prospect. He’s unproven also. Regardless of what’s said of his tenure as an assistant with the Pacers, he was not the HC. Rambis was given the same praise as a coaching prospect also but failed in Minny.

            Most players that D’antoni have coached, all had their best professional production in his system. Every team he’s coached has been in the playoffs. That is leadership. There are only 4 head coaches in the NBA with head coaching championship experience.

            Again, what’s done is done.

          • 3339

            if you don’t like my opinions so much don’t respond to them from now on. I don’t care what you say.

          • http://www.facebook.com/eddie.lazaro123 Eddie Lazaro

            Sure you do care, or you won’t be airing out your gripes with MDA. Just
            keep an open mind, everyone else here are trying to get their input to
            the best knowledge they have in mind, same as you, but you have to
            acknowledge that there are other people here who knows more than we do,
            as we know other things better than they do. It is educational, and
            having another person enlightens us with facts other than what we have
            is an additional experience and knowledge we should accommodate with
            open hands. Do not get offended, or you will loose. That’s the sign of
            incompetence or lack of knowledge in the subject and I suggest if that
            happens, take it as a learning experience. No one here is knocking you
            down until you try to get into someone, then, that’s a different story.
            Learning never end and that is the same with WINNING! At Lakers we
            talked about CHAMPIONSHIPS!

          • ra

            Yes, D’Antoni almost almost single handedly ushered in the current era (which includes small ball). Run & Gun is used in some form or other on many teams now. (well actually, Don Nelson with GSW ran a version of that too, and beat the Mavs in 2006).

            The most exciting games were GSW vs. Phoenix during those years. Now teams are currently running a lot of fast breaks, if the players can handle the speed and duration. OKC is a good example. Maybe nobody’s really running 7 seconds or less, but things are faster, and (at least for a bit of time), scores were going higher (at least for a while, don’t know about last year).

            It’s great entertainment for us fans. We had Showtime, and that was ridiculous. I think that secretly, the Buss’es wanted to get back to that, and this is a potential chance. If D’Antoni can run the players that way, and Nash can successfully orchestrate a lead PG role (in a PG-centric team, rather than a ‘non-PG based’ Triangle), then we should have some fun basketball this year.

      • John Bauer

        Agreed ! ! !

    • hookedonnews

      No one can control Kobe Bryant. Read Phil’s books. Brian Shaw has a job. Time to move on. And you’re wrong about MDA. He’s a players’ coach and easy to play for. He was not the problem this season.

  • 3339

    Brian Shaw was told by Phil Jackson not to mention their good relationship when being interview by the Lakers in 2011 because Jim and Phil hate each other. Now I heard on espn that Jim Buss is blaming Dr. Buss, who is no longer alive to defend himself, for hiring dantoni over Phil. This act by Jim Buss is getting ridiculous. First he disrespects Phil and Brian Shaw, now he is blaming his own father for dantoni.

    • Daryl Peek

      This act was by both Jim and his dad. Jeanie is the one ho broke the lines of communication because she was distraught over the firing of Phil. If she would just stay in her lane and stop pushing for Phil, the beef would eventually fade.

      Again Dr. Buss was the one who didn’t want Phil in the FO. Jeanie knows this. That’s why she stopped calling him dad, in the past and was estranged in her relationship with him.

      Brian Shaw is the coach of the McNuggets. Deal with it and support the Lakers if you are truly a fan?

      How would you feel if people were holding up signs calling for you termination and chanting for your replacement everyday at work? How effective could you do your job under the kind of unrelenting scrutiny MDA has to deal with daily. He can’t pick up a paper with reading hateful buffoonery!

      • 3339

        Jim said in an interview with the Hollywood reporter that it was all his dad, while NBA people have said Jim decided. either way the Lakers are not being run properly
        dantoni’s making millions for coaching, I doubt he cares about what people are saying. He doesn’t even listen to his own players suggestions.
        People don’t hate for no reason. I’m critical because of how I saw him run the team.

        • Daryl Peek

          He insists the Lakers are a democracy that includes GM Mitch Kupchak, to whom Jim says he often defers. “I don’t run the franchise,” he says. “We run it as a family. I’m just a figurehead. I like it collective. Now I might have to put my name on a [decision], but I can’t have the ego to make those calls alone.”

    • hookedonnews

      I think everyone knows how Dr. Buss felt about Phil. It’s not a secret. He didn’t really want Phil back. Dr. Buss’s feelings about Phil were a source of tension between Dr. Buss and Jeanie. This is all a matter of history. Jim Buss is not the only person who has said that the decision to hire MDA was Dr. Buss’s. It’s time to move on from this whole scenario. D’Antoni is the coach. Phil is gone and not coming back, and Brian Shaw has a coaching job. Why not get behind D’Antoni and hope for the best. If he can’t get the job done, they will get someone else. But don’t be disappointed if that person has no connection to Phil Jackson.

      • 3339

        I don’t care if that person has no connection to Phil. dantoni can’t manage the team properly and they need to find someone who can.

        • Eddie Lazaro

          I am not a big fan of MDA either, but we hardly see the Lakers roster complete last year due to injuries, saying that, I can not judge him for things I do not see. You can bitterly embrace and accept him for he is not going anywhere or have a heart attack with your anger, what ever it maybe, boarded or not, the Lakers season will be going.
          I can feel something good is about to come out of this team, and with the current roster, it might surprise you that this guy maybe better than what you think.

    • Eddie Lazaro

      Jim will not blame Dr Buss for hiring MDA over Phil. Phil is the one who burned his bridges with Dr Buss and the rest of the(other than Jeannie) family. For manipulating Jeannie to convince Dr Buss to give Phil an owners share of the Lakers, leading to father & daughter not in good terms for years. That also led to having Jim getting his position instead of Jeannie who knows a lot more about the franchise and adored by the fans and the entire NBA. Shaw was told not to mention Phils name in his coaching interview because of that also. Dr Buss wants no more part of the Triangle, leading to the hiring of Mike Brown intead of Shaw, and now MDA. There maybe a passage of Jim saying Dr Buss insistence of hiring Brown instead of Shaw, and MDA instead of Phil, but in no way or form he will blame his Dad for doing so. After all, the Doctor knows a lot more of the franchise than we do.

      • 3339

        In an interview on the Hollywood reporter Jim deflected criticism onto his father.

        • Eddie Lazaro

          I missed that one but you can give me the site so I can get the view first hand

          • 3339

            can’t post links on here. Google Hollywood Reporter Jim Buss. Should be the first one from it’s website
            I believe it’s the same article where Jimmy said dwight was never really a Laker

          • Daryl Peek

            Actually he didn’t deflect criticism to his father. He just stated the collective decision making process most want to ignore.

            He insists the Lakers are a democracy that includes GM Mitch Kupchak, to whom Jim says he often defers. “I don’t run the franchise,” he says. “We run it as a family. I’m just a figurehead. I like it collective. Now I might have to put my name on a [decision], but I can’t have the ego to make those calls alone.”

          • 3339

            Jim said that he and Mitch were in the hospital with Dr. Buss for hours and they just carried out what Dr. Buss said after people in the NBA said Dr. Buss wasn’t in control.
            That really is messed up. He knows people (like myself) blame him for the hire and now he’s basically saying don’t blame me blame my dad. Dr. Buss isn’t here to defend himself so idk why Jim felt it was necessary to say this even if true.

          • ra

            A long time ago, it was admitted that Dr. Buss had the ‘last word’, always, and I’m sure while he was still alive. Maybe when he was ill, the decision making process was different, and Jeanie seems to reflect that.

            As far as decision making processes, nobody ‘really knows’ what goes on behind closed doors, no matter what they say to the media. Nobody really knows the details.

            In the past, the ‘last word’ was Dr. Buss. Now, the ‘last word’ may be Jim Buss, but we have no idea what type of say Jeanie has. She has claimed that she goes to meetings without knowing how the decisions are made (recently). What meetings? Meetings with other owners, probably. So she may be reporting what others decide. However, she has a say in how things proceed, I’m sure. Whether she makes a claim on what is said – who knows. But mark my words, as time proceeds, we will see more things evolve involving Jeanie, and perhaps even the decision making process.

            As the Godfather told Sonny in a meeting with Salazzo, “never let anyone outside the family know what you’re thinking”. I’m sure that was true of Dr. Buss. I hope it’s going to continue to e true of Jeanie/Jim.

          • Jim213

            MAD I TELL U MAD…

          • ra

            Wow, great pic. Don’t know if that was actually in the Godfather. Don’t recall the Brando smirk in the movie.

            And don’t forget Michael (to Fredo, concerning Mo Green): “never side with anyone against the family”.

          • Jim213

            It looks like a Pre-Godfather hair styling session or something, he just looks out there… Mad it tell U Mad.

          • Daryl Peek

            Your absolutely right, none of us knows how they come to a decision. All I can go on is the fact that Jimmy was brought on as an assistant GM back in 98 and then was brought into the decision making collective in 04. These were Dr. Buss’s words on the matter. I truly believe his 05 interview with Michael Eaves… “Jimmy Mitch and myself will sit down and make a decision on the next HC. Hopefully we come to an agreement on it.” Jimmy has said the same thing on a couple of occasions. The hopefully part was Dr. Buss’s veto power in a stalemate, IMO.

            I scoff at what outsiders say in regards to the inner workings.

            As for Jeanie, she never was a part of basketball operation decisions. Dr. Buss put her in charge of the business side back in the 90′s also. Her disconnect with Dr. Buss and Jimmy over Phil put her even further on the outside looking in. This was of her doing. Dr. Buss never intended for Jeanie to be a part of the basketball operations collective. This is why I say she needs to stay in her intended lane and stop pushing Phil. The bottom line with Jeanie is she wants Phil in the mix, and that’s where the disconnect started and still resides.

  • hookedonnews

    It’s a good thing D’Antoni doesn’t listen to all the “chatter.” Some of it has been ridiculous, and a lot of it has been unfair and uninformed. No one could have done much better with the injuries and other things that went on this season. Not saying he’s the best coach in the league, but he deserves better than he’s gotten from the press and the fans. If he does a bad job coaching, I’ll be the first to say so. I wasn’t a big Mike Brown fan. But you’ve at least got to give a guy a chance with a full season (and training camp) and a healthy roster.

    • 3339

      bulls didn’t have Rose and played very well
      pacers didn’t have Granger and almost beat the heat
      celtics lost rondo but didn’t complain about it
      Lakers had all kinds of injuries in their championship seasons but they had a leader in Phil
      dantoni had no clue what to do last season and clearly lost that locker room. If they had someone that had a plan and a way to communicate with players they would’ve been much more competitive. The stars looked lost and the reserves were even more lost under dantoni.

      • Daryl Peek

        Every one of those comparisons is skewed by the fact that D’Antoni was hired in season. All of them had more than just a full training camp, they had years of tenure with the team they pretty much hand picked. No coach in NBA history has done well under mid-season hire circumstances. And they likely had a full healthy rosters.

        Phil said he does not like taking on a team without a training camp. I don’t get your bias is man.

        • 3339

          Pat Riley did pretty well in 2005-2006
          Woodson had the Knicks playing well in 2012
          Gentry had Phoenix playing better in 2009
          PJ Carlisomo was pretty good for the Nets this past season
          As I have said before my criticism of dantoni is based on what I saw. The Lakers looked lost while he just tried to act like it was no big deal b/c of the list of excuses.
          Lakers fired Brown after he just had a lockout season and five games next year, dantoni doesn’t deserve more than him, especially after that showing last year.

          • Daryl Peek

            What you saw was an incomplete season with injuries ranging from 1-9 all through the season. No one was gonna fix that.

          • tara myricks

            YOU ARE OFFICIALLY MY DISSQ CRUSH LOL :)

          • Daryl Peek

            lol

      • hookedonnews

        Rose is one player, and Thibodeau didn’t come in after the season started. Same for Celtics and Rondo (and things didn’t go well for them in any case). Granger was not that crucial to the success of the Pacers even though he’s a good player. The Lakers never had injuries under Phil Jackson like they had this season. I don’t recall Kobe being unable to play in the playoffs in any of those championship years. The Lakers starting 5 were on the court together for a total of 7 games this season. There’s no reason to pretend that this is a meaningless statistic, especially considering the Lakers bench. Your characterizations about D’Antoni losing the locker room are not accurate. I don’t know why it’s so difficult to understand that a coach can’t come in after the season starts with a roster full of injured players, 2 starters who are new to the team (and not healthy), and magically have the team running like clockwork. Yes, the Bulls had injuries, but their core was intact and they weren’t trying to learn a new system with a new coach. The Lakers made the playoffs and were playing well at the end of the season even with all the factors I’ve mentioned. If they had not lost Kobe, Nash, MWP, Meeks, and Blake who knows how far they might have gotten. If you want to know what went on with this team you should go to ESPN Radio and listen to the interview with Steve Nash back in June.

  • LAL918

    I am NOT a fan of D’Antoni but as a Lakers fan for nearly 14 years, we might as well support the guy for now. Sure, he doesn’t have a nice record from most head coaches like Phil, Pop, Riley, Auberbach, Larry Brown, and recently Erik Spoelstra (can’t think up of any other head coaches who have a legendary record) but I think this upcoming season is his breakout season as well a redemption for him who at least deserves to have a title under him. For 3339, don’t ever respond to this because no matter how much you try to force your own opinions into others; it won’t work because this is the internet and arguing against the likes of well-minded smart Lakers fans is completely invalid.

    Daryl and among others here bring up a good point about D’Antoni, and he wasn’t given a fair shot with the roster he inherited so now with a full training camp as well as the roster hopefully healthy within 100% roster, this team could troll the league as everyone counted them out.

    • 3339

      dude I really don’t care. just getting my opinion out there like everyone else on here.

      • LAL918

        and yet you actually wasted your time replying to mine when I warned this to you.

        • 3339

          honestly you’re cracking me up man

  • Daryl Peek

    The 2000′s Lake Show was almost as great as the Showtime 80′s on the basketball court. Though Showtime was much less turbulent behind FO closed doors. Both era’s have past. Holding on is what has the future at this impasse.

    All of this premature gloom and doom speculation is hindering the transition. Dr. Buss set things up the way he did due to former composition’s qualities.

    IMO, Jeanie is compromised by her affection for Phil Jackson. I still vividly remember 2004. That was the apex of Lake Show dysfunction, the same way it was for the Bulls back in 1998. All of the “Mind Games” candor had reached it’s breaking point for everyone in Laker land, just as it once did in Chicago. Jeanie was distraught over the direction Dr. Buss and Jimmy were then planning…

    “OMG, there not gonna bring Phil back whether he wins or not.”

    These were words she spoke during the 04 finals. It was at that point she really began to distance herself from both Jimmy and her Dad. The blame for this breach in family communication is being disproportionately beset on Jimmy currently when it had been fractured collectively years ago.

    The agitator in this is the man who seems to have a long standing history of inciting relationship dissension as a subordinate.

    “I’ll admit this, when @PhilJackson11 pisses off a team’s employees, they seem to stay pissed. Jim is one of those wary/seething Phil alums.” –Roland Lazenby

    Dr. Buss, Jerry Reinsdorf, Jerry Krause, Jerry West and Tex Winter are other alums.

    Culture change:
    It is something Dr. Buss & Jimmy both agreed on in thinking beyond the triangle design back in 2004, and again in 2011. Unfortunately circumstances beyond their control stopped change on both occasions.

    Now that Dr. Buss is gone it is absolutely important that they continue what he put into place, as Jeanie stated. Culture change was Br. Buss’s final lesson. Jeanie was emotionally disconnected from 2004-2012. She didn’t want to accept that lesson and thus could not comprehend that plan.

    Jeannie and Jim finding their Laker identity, TOGETHER will be the blessing from fully embracing that last lesson. Lakers Nation will revive in a new found frontier of the Show. D’Antoni may or may not be the guy to usher in that era.

    All I know is, no matter who the FO hires to run the Show on the court… it’s GO LAKERS!

    • Jim213

      Daryl,

      Have you watched KB24′s latest TV interview with Jimmy Kimmel? They posted it on Lake Show but am i seeing things?… just past the 23 minute I believe I’d seen Jeanie, Jim, and Mitch in the stands catching Kobe’s interview? Which goes against all the blah blah going around with regards to management/personal relations.

      • Daryl Peek

        Yes.

        If you remember I said I think Jeanie’s 710 comments were taken out of context. The media read internal beef in her words. I heard mourning and the beginning of the healing process. I’ve always contended it was Jeanie who allowed her affection for Phil to be the disconnect between her, Dr. Buss and Jimmy.

        More often than not it is the child that had the rocky relationship with their parent, that has regret and is hit the hardest in mourning.

        • Jim213

          This is upsetting, we’ve been BAMBOOZLED by the media and writer articles into believing all the blah blah. You can help but to buy into all the blah blah when mostly everyone talks and brings up the same mumbo jumbo.

          But the good side is that this points out they’re close to or are on the same page like Jeanie had pointed out not too long ago though people seemed to downplay.

  • Jim213

    • 3339

      lol nice pic man

    • Daryl Peek

      LOL

    • hookedonnews

      Funny, but I don’t think Kobe is dreaming of Phil Jackson.

      • Jim213

        Yes or No maybe, but he’s likely thought about the “what if factor” for last season if PJ happened to have returned. No doubt about that especially when he’s still hungry for a 6th ring. (Although this isn’t a we want Phil rant/chant too).

        • hookedonnews

          I doubt that he believes Phil would have made any significant difference last season. Even PJ needs a healthy roster to win. When Kobe was asked who should replace Mike Brown when he was fired, he said D’Antoni.

          • Jim213

            Correction Bryant lobbied for Phil but wasn’t opposed to the Dumbtoni acquisition. If PJ would’ve been brought in (BIG IF) given the relation with Jimmy!, I’m certain we’d of had a better season given that PJ would’ve had no problems in selling his excution. As opposed to Dumbtoni with DH and the group’s non cohesion. Although thankful DH is gone!… should’ve been traded.

          • hookedonnews

            Sorry, but that’s not the way it went down. When Brown was fired they went to Kobe and asked him who he would like to see replace him. He said Mike D’Antoni. After Phil Jackson came up later and it looked like he would probably get the job Kobe said some nice things about Jackson, but that doesn’t change the fact that D’Antoni was his first choice. I don’t know what you mean by a better season, but the Lakers weren’t going anywhere after Nash, Kobe, MWP, Blake, and Meeks went down. I hope you’re not going to assert that MDA was responsible for those injuries because that’s just not the case. Could they have won a few more games during the season? Of course, but they weren’t going any farther in the playoffs with those injuries.

          • Jim213

            That’s how it went down! Sorry don’t know what sources you may have but if PJ (big if) doubtful again given Jim Bust would’ve came back he would’ve implemented a better scheme on both sides of the floor that would’ve likely helped us to get deeper in the playoffs instead of the 4 and out. Let’s not forget that Dumbtoni also had a short rotation which didn’t help the vets.

          • hookedonnews

            Mitch Kupchak is my source. I don’t know how far you think we would have gotten in the playoffs without Kobe Bryant and Steve Nash, etc., but I don’t believe we would have gotten past the Spurs with or without Phil. With the health issues Phil has been dealing with (multiple surgeries and bad back), I’m not sure he could have finished the season. The short rotation was because of the injuries and the horrible bench and the fact that they were fighting for their playoff lives for most of the second half of the season. Hopefully the bench will be better next season with the new players.

          • Jim213

            KB24 lobbied for Phil but wasn’t opposed to being coached by Dumbtoni… in his own words have articles from Nov 10th as well as VIDEO.

            I can direct you to video links as well as articles of KB24 talking
            about this being in favor of PJ but not opposed to bringing in someone
            like Dumbtoni. Although you’ll find them if you search the date of Nov
            10, 2012?!?!?!

          • hookedonnews

            I don’t need to see the videos. I saw Kobe’s comments when he made them. As I said, those comments were made after it appeared that Jackson was going to be hired. That doesn’t negate the fact that he said he wanted D’Antoni when he was asked. I don’t think it’s possible to know who the Lakers would have been playing in the first round. Most people agreed that the Spurs were a better match-up for the Lakers than anyone else. I don’t care who they were playing. They were not going to win without Kobe, Nash, MWP, Meeks, and Blake. Phil Jackson couldn’t get the Lakers past the Mavericks with Kobe, Bynum, Gasol, Fisher, etc. They were also swept. There’s no reason to believe he could have done any better with this team.

          • Jim213

            Disagree, with a different offense which KB24 assured that the team would be able to adapt to and with a better rotation which would’ve helped to rest as well as helped to minimize injuries we’d be in a better spot.

            I know we have to support Dumbtoni but I’d go with an 11 time champion to help us get into the promise land than a coach who’s switched teams at least 4 times within the close to past decade. We’d probably have better player pickups this off season too aside of athletic players.

          • hookedonnews

            A better rotation would not have mattered because most of the injuries had nothing to do with minutes played. Nash broke his leg in the 2nd game of the season and missed 32 games. He never played excessive minutes except for the first game after he returned. His minutes were less than he played in Phoenix the season before. Blake also missed 37 games at the beginning of the season with a pulled abdominal muscle and pulled a hamstring in the playoffs. Gasol came into the season with bad knees and plantar fasciitis. He missed 33 games. Meeks injured his ankle when someone stepped on his foot (or he stepped on theirs–forget which); MWP slipped on a wet spot on the floor and injured his knee, and Hill had a hip injury unrelated to minutes that kept him out at least half the season. Howard came into the season off of back surgery and injured his shoulder. The only injury you could possibly tie to minutes is the Achilles for Kobe, and his seventeen seasons is more likely the reason for that. He chose to play 48 minutes a game after Nash went down at the end of the season because he thought he needed to for them to make the playoffs. That was his choice not D’Antoni’s. The reason he felt like he had to do that was the lousy bench. I was watching a replay of the 2010 Western Conference Championship series last night. Kobe was playing a ton of minutes in that series. Rotations are dictated by personnel and injuries. The idea that players won’t come to the Lakers because of D’Antoni is also bogus. Most of the good players have played for him on the Olympic team, and he’s a well-liked coach. The players who have signed during the off-season are excited about playing in his system. No one doubts the credentials of PJ, but he’s not able to coach anymore (see his recent interview).

          • Daryl Peek

            Well said! Let me add this; Kobe said Phil could not stop him from playing all those minutes. He also said he would check himself into games under Phil.

          • hookedonnews

            Thanks. Exactly. That’s just Kobe being Kobe. He’s going to do whatever he thinks is necessary to win.

          • Jim213

            You say it wouldn’t of mattered but some of those injuries could’ve or may have not occurred. Take last season’s record 45-37 though for other team’s I would’ve been a solid year for the Lakers it’s bad given their competitive history.

            Motivation can do wonders for a team and though a few players may not have returned come playoff time who’s to say the team wouldn’t have gone deeper in the playoffs which would’ve resulted in the Lakers playing a different team being that they’d likely would’ve been ranked higher.

            Your view is speculation as of mine b/c we don’t really know what may have happened if PJ would’ve coached the team. The team did manage to win 45 games but who’s to say that they wouldn’t have won 50 or 55 games under Phil thus changing rank. KB24 brought even mentioned his belief in believing that if Phil (by some miraculous miracle) came back they would’ve been able to adapt to his style of play. Just b/c some players got injured doesn’t mean a team can’t compete or should call it a season.

            I get what you’re trying to say too though the KB24 lobbying for Phil was stated but blah blah it’s not about this as you’re belief is that the team was destined to lose in the 1st round (agree b/c of KB24 injury only). However, if under different circumstances things may have been different as I still believe if KB24 was still around with Pau and DH they would’ve gone deeper as they would’ve won a few more games with PJ. Although, KB24 would’ve played through some of those injuries but the Achilles is a different story given his mental aptitude.

          • Daryl Peek

            Were all speculating Jim. The same way you are when you through the Dumbtoni or Jim Bust out there. Keep in mind last we saw Phil, a much healthier more seasoned in the triangle system Lakers roster got swept in the second round of the playoffs.

          • Jim213

            LOL… It happens to me too with the throw word just corrected one earlier. Correct, but the DH factor plays into effect as Phil would’ve found an optimal way to take advantage of DH somewhat but again that’s a big if…

            Just triple checking and verifying that Ronnie Brewer has joined the Rockettes too.

          • Daryl Peek

            It still would have been a problem with D-12 & Gasol (IMO) the same way it was with Bynum and Gasol. Phil benched Bynum in games the same way D’Antoni did Pau.

            The Rockets have 18 players under contract right now. They are still around 6-9 million under the luxury tax threshold. If they find proper team chemistry, they are truly gonna be trouble in the west.

          • Jim213

            This leads to the “what if” factor again given my belief that things would’ve clicked better. Agree, the Rockettes may end up as a top 3 seed if they manage to find the right formula.

  • jack

    It amazes me that people are really still so optimistic about Dantoni. Sure there were injuries, but the dude has not won shit while coaching Very good teams in previous seasons. He may not be as bad as he’s cracked up to be, but he definitely has done nothing to prove he deserves to coach our Los Angeles Lakers. Time will make everything clear though.

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