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Lakers News: Magic Johnson Urges Team To Hire Phil Jackson On Twitter

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Over the past couple of months, Magic Johnson has been highly critical of Jim Buss and the Lakers organization. While Johnson recently said that he would avoid discussing his former team, the five-time champion tweeted about Phil Jackson on Wednesday.

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With Jackson likely headed to the New York Knicks, Magic mentioned that Kobe Bryant is the face of the Lakers’ team, but questions who the face of the organization is via Twitter:

With the way this season has gone and the Lakers looking to rebuild this summer, Magic believes Phil Jackson could fill that void:

Since the passing of Dr. Jerry Buss, there have been question marks surrounding Jim Buss. While the Lakers have ample cap room this summer, there is uncertainty that Buss will be able to attract superstar free agents to Los Angeles like his father once demonstrated year in and year out.

Although Jackson is likely headed to New York by the end of this week, Kobe Bryant spoke about the situation on Wednesday. After passing Jackson up for the head coaching position last season, Bryant said “it would be hard for me to understand that happening twice.”

Despite all the injuries this season, it’s clear that the Lakers will need to make drastic changes this summer. While it’s unclear which direction the team will go, Bryant stressed that he doesn’t have the patience to wait another season and wants the team to go all in this summer. With Bryant signing a two-year, $48.5 million contract earlier this season, the Lakers shouldn’t waste those final two seasons in hopes of landing Kevin Love in 2015 or Kevin Durant in 2016.
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  • Dana Douglas

    Clearly, some battle is being waged behind the scenes, which is leaking out into the media. My guess: Jim Buss doesn’t want Phil Jackson on the same planet, much less the same team as him, and everyone else thinks Phil should take over Jimmy’s duties.

    • Daryl Peek

      Dr. Buss didn’t want Phil in the FO. Jimmy is just keeping his dads wishes. Jeanie knows this and that’s what truly upsets her.

      “We must go forward with Dr. Buss’s plan” –Jeanie Buss

      Lets not forget how Jeanie fell out with her dad in 04 over Dr. Buss forcing Phil out. Jeanie left her business operations post for a while and rarely spoke to her dad, not until he took ill.

      • Armon

        That being true and all but then doesn’t that mean Jeanie knows the right basketball move because we didn’t win again until Phil came back. It’s and old saying but doesn’t the woman know best.

        • Daryl Peek

          Jimmy and Mitch convinced Dr. Buss to bring Phil back in 05. Jeanie was still not talking to Dr. Buss due to the rift created in 04 when Dr. Buss forced Phil out.

          • Chrmngblly

            You are the greatest Laker historian I know, DP.

          • Daryl Peek

            “A people without the knowledge of their past history, origin and culture is like a tree without roots.”

    • fakerstolakers

      Don’t you think it is personal. Phil dates Jim’s sister.

      I mean Jim must burn to His father’s money go to his “brother in law”. He feels that since Phil is in the family he should work voluntarily or at least offer a family discount.

  • Boobie Knight

    Does Magic have to give his two cents on everything? Go back to opening Fatburgers and selling crappy Dodger games.

    • truth24

      Crappy dodger games? Your a fucking idiot you must have just got out of prison. Dodgers are relevant now and are worth paying for tickets to go see them. You should get a job and your the one probably eating at fatburger you fat fuck

      • Marcel Akende Atiabet

        @truth24, why do people like you always result to insults and vulgar languages? Man, I am thinking hard. Why these lack of civility in public forums where people are allowed to voice their opinions and point of views just as u are and u think the other person is some sort of an IDIOT? Lack of respect?
        I personally don’t agree with Magic looking at other people’s asses all the time. If I’ve a business to run, that will be my priority and I will do just that. When you bend over to stir at other people’s asses, u leave urs wide open for the world to stir at. It’s wasn’t Jim who asked his dad to buy out magic’s 5% share from the lakers and keep him out of the organization.

        • Daryl Peek

          Tell it! I really trip off the name calling. I do it in retaliation. I don’t like to get into it like that but I’m not built to turn the other cheek like that. People are a trip. I have my opinion you have yours. Why can’t we just agree to disagree like level headed adults?

          • independantbynature

            Then you’ll understand if I question whether you have “half a brain” or not in retaliation,Daryl.I don’t turn the other cheek,either.I respect your opinion,but I completely disagree with it.Yes,people are a trip,alright.Even the ones who think they’re not.

          • Daryl Peek

            I’m man enough to apologize to you for coming at you like that. There are a ton of folks that come at me left using different user account names. Mine is who I am and that’s my real name. We can agree to disagree. I’m passionate about the Lakers and do my best to get to the truth.

          • independantbynature

            OK.I can accept that.You might not like more I’ve had to say since this comment,though.It does seem like you think you already have the truth,though.I guess I should apologize some,too.I did tell you I don’t turn the other cheek,either.LOL.Can’t have you being more of a man than me.So,sorry Daryl.

          • Chrmngblly

            LMAO

          • Daryl Peek

            I almost thought Independent was you

          • Chrmngblly

            No. I don’t hide anymore than you do…:-)

    • Mitch

      STFU fat loser!GTFO!

    • fakerstolakers

      He is a legend. If you have an opinion, his opinion is worth million times more than yours and mine when it comes to basketball.

      This is called human nature and par excellence hypocrite.

      If your basketball opinion was so hot you would not be trolling here. You would be counting millions like he does.

  • Daryl Peek

    “I want to get a phone call before someone gets traded, lets start there” –Kobe

    Magic didn’t get a call when Dr. Buss wanted to trade Worthy for Roy Tarpley. Shaq didn’t get a phone call when Phil was let go, Kobe didn’t either. Kobe didn’t get a call when Fisher was let go the first time. Kobe didn’t get a call when LO and Gasol were traded. All of this happened under Dr. Buss’s watch. Dr Buss made it clear players (no matter who they are) will not be consulted on personal moves. Kobe has said he doesn’t expect to be involved in that either. This is a full court press by those that are trying to get Phil back in, something they very well know Dr. Buss was against with his last will and testament plan.

    • Zimmeredge

      bryant threatened to leave the team he was not getting a better partners to play with.

      • Daryl Peek

        That’s different than expecting to be involved in FO decisions. Magic did the same in the past but that did not stop Dr. Buss from making trades in without the consultation of Magic. Dr. Buus is on record saying Kobe would not be consulted on such matters.

        • Zimmeredge

          Dr buss is on record being gone… forever. we already have that talk in the past my friend… you won’t follow one man’s orders for 50yrs. If Jim want to make his stamp he has to make moves on his own to make the lakers a great team again. Yet he is not doing anything. Living in past when you have to think about the future. i’m not for or against Phil i’m just saying that it’s going to be status quo until the guy is willing to part way from his father’s last will. I do have a lot of respect for Dr Buss… but he is not here anymore. Life goes on and so is bball. Truth is that you won’t interest big fa, you might even struggle bringing in lottery picks with D’antoni and the record he’s got. he has a terrific job grooming players i’ll give him that Karl Jax or Hollins… big names. but now you have to rebuild and start something new. take a new direction.

          • Daryl Peek

            How is moving on from the triangle living in the past? Dr. Buss has barely been gone for a year and a coup is basically in effect to usurp his will already?

            Phil has had eyes on an ownership stake in the Lakers for a long time. Dr. Buss was always unwilling to do that. Hell, Jerry West one of his best friends wanted that also but was not given it by Dr. Buss so what on earth makes folks think Phil would get that?

            I’m not against Phil the HC but I am against Phil in the FO. Phil has caused way too much drama with his mind games in two different organizations and turned his back on many who were at the inception of his rise that gave him the platform in the first place. How would that workout (Phil in the FO) knowing full well Phil has major beef with Jimmy?

            Rebuilding is what their trying to do but are still being held hostage by the triangle “We want Phil” idolatry. People are acting like Dr. Buss has been gone for several years and the Lakers have been out of contention for said time like they were in the 90′s.

          • Zimmeredge

            how many years the lakers will have to mourn their departed historical leader? will we have to wait a decade just like in the 90′s?
            i’m well aware of you said and i want you to understand one thing i’m not in the zen master hype. not at all. i’m reluctant. in fact I’m not talking about phil getting back as a hc or in the FO. i don’t care about phil. Lakers are not hostages or held back by the triangle.
            it’s just that Jim is not going anywhere because he is not willing to differ his father’s words whether it’s bringing back phil or take ANOTHER direction (i’m more for this) JIM (and only JIM) will TAKE/MAKE.
            we need(ed) strong decisions, from day one (i don’t know when day one happened but it has something to do with the failure of the “paul/pau trade”, pau being in the trade block since then and dwight leaving LA). players wanted phil, jeanie wanted phil, fans wanted phil but fo decided to get d’antoni for some reasons ( while contacting phil…bizarre!). I mean the future face of the franchise (Dwight Howard) wanted phil. They said no! ok move on. NO problem. BUT then you have jeanie’s bold/wise ad in LA knowing that you have no chance to bring back dwight next season… one can argue that dwight never had a full support from the organisation (i do not agree with that). But nonetheless it has always been A plus B for a couple of years and that’s wrong. it has to be A or B… or C. And, in that case, I agree with Kobe. It has to start on top. you pay your superstar but you do not consider him as a superstar. Come on Kobe won’t vetoed a move, he won’t agree (it happens all the time at work) but that’s all and he’ll get over it. It’s not about giving him power of decision it’s about givin him consideration for the money you are paying him. 48m and he has absolutely no idea on what’s happening on top. And guess what if you’re superstar (18yrs in the organisation, 5champs, 1mvp etc etc etc) feels that uncertainty what do you think potential big names in fa, draft or guys playing for your own side will think? lack of transparency inside the fo and that’s not good. i’m not lobbying for anybody. i will embrace every coach.

            i am being patient. i guess they are more passionate fans than me and if you’re not in post season at the end of the year you sell less tickets, shirts etc etc…

          • Daryl Peek

            I hear you on your neutral stance but this was bound to happen the way it’s going down unfortunately. As a Lakers fan I hate it! It all started in 04 when Jeanie fell out with her dad over Phil. This is where the triangle “We want Phil” hostage syndrome begins. The conversation were having today is the same one we had back then pretty much. I’m not sure if you ever saw the Dr. Buss, Michael Eaves interview of 2005? That conversation foretold all of this… the perception of players not wanting to play with Kobe, the Phil Jackson idolatry, The misconceptions of FO dealings and who’s making the calls, to whether or not Mitch Kupchak is doing a good job.

            Jeanie’s disagreement with her dad over Phil is at the center of the beef in having such a hard time moving on from Phil. Dr. Buss was clear about his desire not to have Phil in the FO and that the Lakers belonged to his children and that’s the way it’s gonna be.

            I hear you on wanting a clearer direction from Jimmy but given the FO power struggle that’s damn near impossible. Every choice not Phil Jackson is met with overtly loud critique up to sheer IRE. Jimmy and Mitch have done a good job blocking out the white noise for the most part. The one thing I’d say to you on the patience’s theme is keep in mind the CP3 block coupled with the FO once being sold out on the triangle for Phil and hocking the immediate future, draft picks for older triangle players in chasing rings for Phil. Dynasties are a cycle, Especially the way the Lakers have run them. The rebuild process began in 2011 with Phil’s exit but was again thrown for a loop in the CP3 trade being rescinded. Youth and inexperience showed it;’s face in the FO when they went all out with the Howard, Nash super team gamble. The only reason I had pause to it was Howard. He was way too flaky about where he wanted to play and there was the Kobe Howard disdain rumors out there. That said it’s hard to blame them for trying. That set us back and this is now where we stand. All of that is compressed into making Jimmy into the scapegoat with this coup.

            Bottom line, this is gonna take time less they throw Prokorov caution to the pending CBA luxury tax dooms day looming and go all out for Kobe. This would be a mistake IMO as they’d just be kicking the can down the road once again. Rebuilding a dynasty is not an over night thing. All Eras end. We were spoiled by the Lake Show success and May believe 04-08 was rebuilding. That was retooling and you can’t retool forever. Kobe is not 25 anymore. The FO is stuck between looking beyond Kobe with complete rebuilding and trying to make something happen before he’s done. The New CBA is a huge hindrance Dr. Buss didn’t have to deal with, and that a big difference.

            Again, let us not forget the time it took to rebuild after Magic. There were a ton of mistakes made by both Dr. Buss and West during that time. Firing Mike Dunlevy when they did was the first. Hiring Randy Pfund to replace him was the second. Del Harris was a good hire. He prepped the Lake Show for Phil. Who’s to say D’Antoni is not the prep man? Right now he looks like Pfund but that’s unfair given all of the injuries.

            We all need to be more patient right now. It’s way too early in the transition process especially given this power struggle.

          • Christopher

            I am a fan of your posts but I must correct you on something that I saw you wrote recently and today. Mike Dunleavy was not fired by the Lakers, the Milwaukee Bucks offered him the title of both coach and general manager and a huge pay raise. Obviously with Jerry West as the GM this opportunity was not available. The Randy Pfund move was a mistake but he did not get the job as a result of Mike getting fired. Mike Dunleavy was even quoted saying that one of the reasons he left was because his family was very close with the West family and he never wanted to reach a point that he was fired by the lakers which could of damaged the relationship. Keep up with the great posts.

          • Daryl Peek

            Good stuff man! I stand corrected, and I do recall that now. Dunlevy was good for that Lakers roster. I hated it when he left.

          • Christopher

            I agree. But like you said the Lakers always rebound. And they will.

          • Daryl Peek

            Absolutely!

          • Zimmeredge

            My opinion and i’m very clear about it unless you give Kobe a team this summer… Do not take half measures. Go all in the near future or all in for a much longer period. I mean full retool in fa (trade your drafted player) or bet on the future and take a huge leap of faith with our lottery pick plus a sign and trade gasol for a high draft pick (divac way). We have done that in the 80′s with multiple draft picks in the early 80´s and with divac in 97. We have to learn our errors from the past. That´s a huge risk but you have to bet.

          • Daryl Peek

            I’m sure much of that is on the table but the fan base and pundits aren’t giving it a chance to manifest with the impatience’s. The mistakes of the past are being learned. Mitch was very upfront in his candor about the new way of thinking when it comes to the value of draft picks. Before deals easily got done with them but this new CBA has rendered them NFL valuable. Ten years ago Gasol at the age and level of performance he’s at now would easily command a first round pick plus… not in today’s NBA.

            You have to keep in mind others were out to see the Lakers come down a notch, and now that Dr. Buss is gone, they’re like sharks in the ocean with blood inthe water.

            Patience’s is the only answer right now.

          • ra

            yes, patience is necessary here. Many many years of patience, while the Lakers brand dissipates. It won’t necessarily be a ‘decade’ when things turn around. They may not turn around for a lot longer than that.

            But it’s ok, there are no longer ‘great players’ being produced (for some reason) like the current crop. After LeBron finishes his term, Melo, DWade (sooner than later), DH, Kevin Love, then the ‘whole’ NBA is going to become a lot less interesting. So it almost doesn’t matter that the Lakers will be among those uninteresting teams (which include ‘all’ teams).

            Don’t believe me? Ask Jerry West (or, see his recent comments – even about this current crop of draftees – he knows – it’s not gonna get better).

            Well, maybe when we have GMO (people, that is) – DNA engineered basketball players – then we’ll see a new and exciting NBA.

          • Sylvia Ross

            jim buss, is using his dad as an excuse. He has personal reasons for not wanting Phil Jackson in LA. Had his dad been alive he would have gotten rid of dumtoni to keep Dwight here.

          • Marcel Akende Atiabet

            And who say, he will be wrong to believe in his father principles and live or lead by it?

          • Zimmeredge

            Because it´s not working out. The near future seems compromise because they are not making any choice based on what´s happening on the moment or the future. The argue on the tax etc is not viable anymore. Everybody is thinking about the tax limitation fact! yet smaller markets, with less income, history or fame, succeed in bringing in better players fact! That´s bs…. We have traded our future (draft picks) for a face (Howard)…. A face the organization never truly believed from day one (keeping gasol and not appointing jax). Instead of that, we put our faith in a 38yo pg (that we acquired trading first round draft pick) and his favorite coach….
            By now… If Dr Buss was still alive he would have changed the whole thing or i presume that our plan for the future would be clearer.
            If fo keeps going this way, the Lakers Will fall for a long period of time. At the very least 2 more years.

          • Daryl Peek

            I see that patience’s is long gone only a year into the new regime.

            “Even when Dr. Buss was fighting his illness he was involved in every decision” –Jeanie Buss

          • Zimmeredge

            I have a lot of respect for dr Buss but in all honesty if he was still alive he would have made changes in his plan. Just like he decided to hire Brown after 9 games then dropped him for d’antoni. He would have made in-season adjustements because if he strongly believed in his final words he would not have tolerate to see his beloved franchised sink like that.

          • Daryl Peek

            I too revere the late great Dr. Buss but I must respectfully disagree on the in season changes this season. First, there wasn’t much the FO could have done to get a better player given all of the factors leading up to this moment in time. Did Dr. Buss wield a much more profound ability of persuasion? Absolutely! But Dr. Buss too sat on mediocrity as the team suffered two consecutive losing seasons, 92-94, and multiple injuries had nothing to do with the win loss column back then. Randy Pfund was a horrible choice to replace Dunlevy who was lost to the Bucks because he was offered a Doc Rivers like coaching/FO stake. They stuck with Pfund for almost two seasons much like the Mike Brown experience. Del Harris was next and was a great choice but he too clashed with players like D’Antoni during the grooming of the Late Show that became the Lake Show.

            We were spoiled by the triangle success. Eras and there’s always a next. Pat Riley also left the Lakers under a shroud of turmoil. The 89-90 season was successful on the outside looking in but the pressure of keeping the band together after the retirement of a legend (KAJ) proved a tough road to navigate without his calming presence. 63-19 was the teams record but the road traveled was considered a season of depression by many of the players as dissension, bickering and public finger pointing ruined team chemistry by the time the playoffs started. A 4-1 loss to the Suns in the second round marked the apex of that seasons inner turmoil as all involved were happy it was over VS. angry at playoff failure for a team that had the best record in the league. All season long Riley said he was going no where. As we all know he bolted for NY and the breakup reported a mutual one was much in part about that season of depression as the Showtime era was ending.

            Bottom line, change is always difficult, even for the great Dr. Buss and Jerry West. Time is the key to heal as the process has to be played out. Evoking a coup is not the way to pay respect to Dr. Buss’s final word.

          • Zimmeredge

            you know my pov on the topic. i’m not pushing for jax to come back.
            this summer is very important imo. there are far better coaches out there. I mean compared to magic mike. D’antoni was good at grooming our young players though. i’ll give him that. but when i think about hollins, sloan, karl those guys have a record. they are known to play with what they have.
            but now it’s time to turn the corner. we can achieve that this summer. do the right move whether you’re opting for kobe’s 6th ring (retooling) or rebuilding with young players.
            this summer is very important for kobe end of career and kobe post era.
            i’ll trust the draft eventhough it’s a risky move but a wise move regarding our future. what’s slowing down us is Nash’s contract. truly is a heavy burden for this summer knowing that he wants to go through the last year of his contract.

          • independentbynature

            “Involved,” is not the final word,Daryl.Jimmy has been the shot caller for 3 yrs. now and he thinks he knows more than Kupchak.

          • Daryl Peek

            Allegedly. And as Jeanie said, even when fighting his illness Dr. Buss was involved in every decision. So the 3 year blame game is false. Why would Jeanie and Phil lie to make Jimmy look good?

          • independentbynature

            Once again,Daryl.they said “involved,” not made the final decisions.Jimmy has been doing that for 3 yrs.,now.Just because he discussed it with his father,doesn’t mean Dr. Buss made the decision.”Involved,”infers an advisory role to me.He let his son make his own decisions/mistakes.Now,I’ve got to get back to watching another painful episode of the Antoni show.

          • Daryl Peek

            It was a collective which means all involved agreed no matter who’s idea it was, so again the 3 year blame game is false. I turned that hot mess off already.

          • independentbynature

            Everything I’ve heard about Jimmy says you’re wrong,Daryl.And I’ve been hearing it since he gave up training horses.I understand he wasn’t very good at that,either.I believe my sources.Neither of us was in the room with them.But,I definitely know Brown was Jimmy’s choice when Kupchak wanted Adelman.Adelman was shocked he didn’t get the job.I see no reason to believe that Antoni was not Jimmy’s choice,also.He hates PJ and that’s a fact.I believe Dr. Buss deferred to his son due to illness and the fact that he was picked as his successor.I’m a glutton for punishment,so I’m still watching and grimacing.

          • Daryl Peek

            Dr. Buss was not keen on Phil either so the apple didn’t fall far from the male side of the tree. This is fact. And again, why would Phil and Jeanie lie to protect the guy who hates them? Dr. Buss adamant about Phil not being a part of the FO or have an ownership stake. These words came out of his mouth on a couple of occasions in sit down interviews.

          • independentbynature

            PJ can be abrasive,but he is the best NBA coach ever.Dr. Buss wanted to win and was not ruled by his emotions.He made sound business decisions.That’s why PJ was hired a 2nd time.I’m just not getting where you’re coming up with this lying stuff.Once again,”involved,”is not saying he called the shots.You’ll notice Jeanie didn’t say that he made all final decisions.Did she?I don’t think Dr. Buss wanted anyone outside the family to have an ownership stake.Magic was an exception.Just why do you think Magic doesn’t believe in Jimmy?Because he knows him.That’s why.I’m talking about Jimmy’s coaching hires,Brown and Antoni.You might disagree,but picking PJ over Antoni might have kept Howard,too.I get the feeling that you are in Jimmy’s corner no matter what.My loyalty is to the Lakers.I’ve never been a fan of owners.They just use our teams for profit or as play things to give themselves fame and mingle with the Hollywood crowd to me.I pay to watch the players and I watch like I play,TO WIN.Nothing less will do.

          • Daryl Peek

            Magic’s been on the outside looking in for a while. Magic also has an ulterior motive as some have said, he knows the younger Buss children want to sell the Lakers. Magic is very shrewd as we all know. I’m not saying this is true but it’s food for thought. Magic was the first of the legends to come out against Jimmy. He’s flip flopped on Jimmy over the last three years big time also. When the Lakers signed Howard and Nash, Magic was calling for Jimmy to be NBA executive of the year and said he looks just like his dad, and how proud of him he was. Fast forward a year, after things blew up, his tone was completely different as he came out with his Jimmy ego campaign?

            Mitch would have to be a helluva a yes man to sit back and endure all you say is going on. I don’t see that. Dr. Buss and West had the utmost confidence in Mitch as a GM and they always sung his praise. Who’s to say Jimmy is running things by his emotions? Magic absolutely is and his motives and mood swings are questionable.

            Phil is the GOAT as a HC but I happen to agree with Dr. Buss in not wanting him in the Lakers FO. I to want winning but I want the family atmosphere back that once existed in the Lakers organization. That seem to go out the front door with Jerry West as he left because of what he deemed as the things getting too cut throat around here. Phil was the one who gave West the final nudge out the door. Even in the Dr. Buss memorial service Phil took a mind games jab at West in his speech.

            I love what Phil did for the Lakers in helping bring those championships but I don’t like how he wears on superiors over the long haul. Jerry Krause and the Bulls organization can vouch for this as he seemingly has no relationship with them anymore. Phil was masterful in manipulating a public opinion coup against Jerry Krause, the guy who gave him his first coaching gig when no one else wanted to deal with his unconventional methods. Krause fired two coaches to get Phil into the Bulls organization as a coach to work with Tex. Stan Albeck was fired for not wanting to hire Phil onto the staff. Doug Collins was fired because he didn’t want to use Phil’s methods. If not for Krause Phil would never have been paired with Tex and would likely still be coaching division 3 college ball somewhere.

            They Jeanie, Phil, SAS, and Magic have been trying to evoke a public opinion coup. I don’t like that!

          • independentbynature

            Magic’s motive is that he loves the Lakers.All of us who bleed purple and gold hate what Jimmy has done to our team.I initially gave Jimmy the benefit of the doubt,too when Howard was traded for.Even though I doubted he wanted to be here,I was hoping it would work out.Jimmy put all his eggs in Howard’s basket,but didn’t do what it took to keep him.Only a fool would have hired Antoni to coach him.It was a no-brainer.Krause was an idiot,too,IMO.But that’s another topic.You don’t seem to understand what a GM’s job is.Kupchak advises.The owner gives final approval.A little knowledge is a dangerous thing and that’s all Jimmy has,a little knowledge.He grew up around West and now thinks he knows as much.He doesn’t.Dr. Buss didn’t know basketball,either,but he listened to West.That’s why you hire an expert.These are not Kupchak’s decisions.I still have confidence in Kupchak.I have none in Jimmy.You are just going to defend Jimmy,no matter what,Daryl.Is he your personal friend?Because I can’t think of another reason to do so,otherwise.Your opinion is in the minority.That alone doesn’t make you wrong,but should at least make you think.I admire loyalty.Always have,No matter how misguided.But,my loyalty is to the Lakers,not Jimmy.I shutter to think who Jimmy would hire as Kupchak’s replacement.No one is trying to evoke a public opinion coup.Lakers fans know what they see.We are knowledgeable fans despite what the haters call us.We want to win and win now…Jimmy is an impediment to that,whether you like it or not.Open your eyes and your mind.You are not seeing clearly.That is my opinion and that of 90% of the Laker Nation.Your stubborn denials can’t change that,Daryl.Sorry,but you are wrong.

          • Daryl Peek

            We’ll agree to disagree. And the stubborn denials of the majority can’t change my opinion. Magic can bleed Lakers sorrow over losses just like us fans but it’s reckless to be the emotional flip flopper he’s been, given the public opinion power he fully knows he can wield. Magic has got to be bigger and better than that. He grew up with the young Buss’s so tot speak and it would be better to keep this in house by talking directly to Jimmy and Jeanie.

            I believe Dr. Buss, he said all decisions were a collective and that still exist, minus one IMO. I’m absolutely going to defend Jimmy against what I see as a continuous pile on coup just barely a year after Dr. Buss’s will was enacted.

            I’ve said it before I’ll say it again, Dr. Buss and Jerry West made plenty of mistakes. Kent Cooke and Sharman made plenty of mistakes. No ones perfect. Just because things don’t always go right, don’t make it right to publicly call for someones head. Dr. Buss spoke on this in a 2005 interview with Jim Gray. He spoke candidly about being hurt about the public bully pulpit that had started to grow and how it hurt. He also spoke about Kobe having absolutely no influence on who the coaching hires would be. He said he would talk to Kobe but he had no influence.

            “Dr. Jerry Buss exclusive interview ESPN 2005″ –the Jim Gray interview

            “Dr. Jerry Buss Exclusive interview 2005 Fox Sports” –the Michael Eaves interview

            Check them out if you have time and have not seen them before.

            Eerie how prophetic they are as those conversations are the exact same ones were having today.

            When I look at those interviews I see a prophet and am fully convinced of my convictions about the things going on today in the Lakers world. I’ll continue to give Jimmy and Mitch time as the transition is still in the early stages.

          • Sylvia Ross

            You will never win against Daryl he is always and I mean always right.

          • independentbynature

            I know what you mean,Sylvia.Especially when he’s wrong.

          • ra

            only 2? Oh – counting on Kevin Durant, Kevin Love, Melo, etc. populating the Lakers within 2 years?

            After that, what? Stephen Curry? He’s great, but not a ‘franchise-carrying’ player like Kobe, LeBron, etc. Who else? Chris Paul? Ship has sailed. NBA will suffer with that CBA they put in place.

            League parity is ‘not’ what is needed for the NBA. What is needed is the great teams – Lakers, Celtics, Knicks etc. – large market teams, ‘pulling up’ the rest of the league.

            Crushing the Lakers with the CBA and nixing the Chris Paul deal helped to make Dr. Buss’s illness worse. He knew that the NBA was in for hard times. And here it comes! (not just for the Lakers, but the NBA).

        • ra

          on record. Of course Dr. Buss is not going to say that Kobe had any say in the decision processes. He’s a poker player. Don’t show anyone your hand.

          Well, recall that when Kobe was considering leaving the Lakers, Dr. Buss met with him in Spain, to convince him to stay with the Lakers. That was ‘on the record’. So what do you think they discussed in Spain, the best place to get paella?

          Here’s what prob. happened:

          Dr. Buss: Kobe, please stay.
          Kobe: alright Dr. Buss, but there are a few things I need to happen to stay.
          Dr. Buss: ok, Kobe. We’ll work together on this.

          Kobe: Thanks, Dr. B. How’s that paella?

          Here’s how it goes now:

          Jim Buss: what, Kobe’s on the phone? OK, I’ll speak with him. Hey, Kobe. What’s up.
          Kobe: Hey Jimmy, there are a few things that would be good to know about to really make my stay good here and help the Lakers win the next few years.
          Jim Buss: STFU, Kobe. You got your money. Don’t call me, I’ll call you. Get better. Later. ‘Click.

          Kobe: hello? hello? Jim? Jim-ster? Jimmy-boy?

          • Daryl Peek

            Proof is in the overwhelming pudding. Of course Dr. Buss hitched his wagon to a then 27 year old Kobe (the best player in the league at the time) who was unhappy about the state of the team. Did that stop Dr. Buss from trading players without consulting Kobe going forward? Did that stop Dr. Buss from allowing players to walk in free agency Kobe was close to? Too much ado on the poker face theme. Sometimes the words spoken are the truth of the matter.

            Dr. Buss almost traded James Worthy in 86 for Roy Tarpley. Would Magic have been happy about that? West stopped that. In 91 Worthy was again almost traded, this time for Barkley. The Sixers backed out of the deal. The Paul Westhead firing was a learning experience for Dr. Buss. Both Magic and Dr. Buss took a hard public hit for the way they handled that. Point is, even the greats have a learning curb that only experience can cure.

            Jeanie was the one responsible for the Stay campaign for D. Coward… “Putting up a billboard probably wasn’t the right thing, but we have to learn how to do things differently because Dr. Buss isn’t here.”

            Jimmy is no doubt not his dad but his dad said what he meant more than most want to admit. Dr. Buss like his son was not always upfront talking about the inner workings of things. When it came to the dealings of the Lakers, his poker face came in his silence when the white noise was at it’s loudest. Dr. Buss picked his moments to address issues publicly.

            Again, time and time alone on the job is the only thing that will be the proof in whether Jimmy is suited for the Job. Jeanie also. Steadily trying to evoke a coup from the moment dad passed away is bad to the memory of the man and the Trust of his plan.

          • Chrmngblly

            Lord God, DP. He’s had 30 years OJT! you are a desperate man to keep trying to trot that dead horse out again. We are all victims of nepotism in the case of the Lakers. Why doesn’t Jimmy go try to coach? How much support do you think he would get if he even tried to put that past the fans? Why should we put up with the ne’er-do-well son of the late great but dead Dr. Buss?
            What made Dr. Buss so good? What makes any business leader great? Being a good judge of talent and character is a reasonable place to start. You seem so willing to give the doc credit for having a good poker face, why not recognize what poker really is about? Reading people. That was Dr. Buss’s magic. He got that over a lifetime of experience that Jimmy does not have–and will never have, if he doesn’t have it by now.
            We have a loser in the player personnel department that is being pushed on us by an understandably sentimental dead man. He can get away with that in his will, but sooner or later the family has to snap out of it and bring in someone that can represent the franchise and also judge talent.
            Phil could do that job for us. If feelings are still hard over the ego clashes he had with some of the Busses, so be it. Besides, it looks like we just let the best living BB talent judge go to our competitor. My second choice would be Magic Johnson, who has proved himself in the worlds of BB and business as a champion. If Jimmy was half-smart he would bring Magic in as a consultant tomorrow and make a three man foxhole for himself, Magic and Mitch to do the draft and FA pickups and also decide who to keep and who to trade and let go.
            People who think BB is about the triangle vs. small-ball or X’s and O’s just don’t understand this game. The most important asset a team has is talent under contract. Choosing players with the hearts of champions is a job foolishly wasted on the ill-equipped. Not many could do it no matter how many years of practice or experience they get under their belts. Does anybody deny this?

          • Daryl Peek

            If we are victims of nepotism, the Dr. Buss is the culprit and all of the Buss children are the problem. Jeanie is to blame for the beef just as much as Jimmy is. I don’t care how many times I have to say it, if Jeanie didn’t let her emotions get in the middle of a business decision her dad made the plight of the coup likely wouldn’t be.

            Everything else that has happened is a quasi butterfly effect based off that as LN and the buss family have been split every since.

          • Chrmngblly

            Whoa…what the…quasi butterfly what??? What are you smoking, DP—and how do the rest of us get some?
            Of course it is nepotism. That is what nepotism means–hiring your relatives instead of more qualified people. But before that nobody knows what you said. “…plight of the coup…” geez, Daryl…

            Friends. It is totally natural to want to leave your kids everything they could ever want or need and keep all of your descendants safe forever. We understand that. But what about us regular Laker fans? The Doc didn’t leave me anything except his screw-up son to ruin my favorite team. I don’t know about you.

            I want to talk more about Jeanie’s emotions…damn…:-)

          • Daryl Peek

            lmao

      • Marcel Akende Atiabet

        I didn’t know Kobe was given a big contract just because he was a “good shirt seller”.

        • Zimmeredge

          If you sign a guy for 48m and do not give him the proof that you support him entirely by assembling a champ team (because that´s the reason why he is still playing) well that´s the proof that you signed him because Kobe is still a huge shirt seller…

          • Daryl Peek

            Agreed (sigh) Kobe is the on the court face of the Lakers. He fills seats win lose or draw. Dr. Buss always kept a keen eye on ticket sale also. If Kobe were playing, the 4 non sellouts this season would not have happened. Jimmy, Jeanie and Mitch know this.

          • ra

            yes, and take it a notch up. Kobe is a ‘world brand’ NBA seller. The league is not as interesting without Kobe. LeBron vs. Durant isn’t cutting it.

    • TheTruthKills

      It’s a poor effort of pressing to get Phil back in. Only Jeanie Buss can right the ship, but she won’t get involved or takeover.

      • Daryl Peek

        Jeanie is in her appointed position. Dr. Buss gave Jimmy final say so on basketball matters for a reason.

        • independantbynature

          The reason was because Jimmy is his son.

          • Daryl Peek

            Dr. Buss groomed Jeanie for that position long ago. He sent her to school with that in mind as she naturally took to marketing. That’s why she has her position. You say you’ve been a fan since 65 but you’re not sounding like it with statements like that?

            I’m sure if Dr, Buss felt Jeanie was more suited he’d have had her in the basketball operations.

          • independantbynature

            Anyone with “half a brain”would know that the Lakers are bigger than one person.I was a Laker fan when Chick Hearn(forever the voice of the Lakers)was hosting Bowling for Dollars.Probably before you were born.You’re sounding more like a Jimmy Buss fan than a Lakers fan.Is that why you are so accepting of Jimmy’s failures?You constantly make excuses for him.Can I not love the Lakers and see Jimmy as incompetent?Is Magic incompetent,too?Many a good ole boy favors his son over his daughter when it comes to leaving his inheritance.Besides,I didn’t say Jeannie was right for the job,either.Though,she could hardly get off to a worse start.You seem extremely devoted and emotionally attached to Jimmy,Daryl.Is your infatuation clouding your reason?BTW,Jimmy absolutely over-ruled Kupchak’s choice of Adelman to hire Brown.Jimmy was swayed by Brown’s interview instead of considering the body of work each had accomplished.Yes,people are a trip,alright.

          • Daryl Peek

            No but I accepted Dr. Buss and West failures as a Lakers fan because no franchise wins all the time. I apologized for the jab and I’d appreciate it if you stop it also.

            You roll with the Lakers through good and bad. Does that mean I’m happy about it? NO but why would I not give the new a chance to prove themselves? Especially given the man himself hand picked his successors. Jimmy is not Dr. Buss’s only son, and Mitch is there by his side to help. Like Phil said they hae a long standing relationship, and they were also a part of the Lake Show process that brought Phil and the Lakers championships.

            And again, Jeanie was not right for the job because she was not groomed for it simply due to Dr. Buss identifying he talent in other areas. Only time will tell how this plan works out but one year into it is foolish to be trying to evoke a coup.

          • independantbynature

            I already apologized,Daryl after I saw yours.I don’t care if you disagree with me,I just don’t like being called stupid and I didn’t like you questioning my loyalty to the Lakers at all.I just don’t believe in Jimmy and I call it like I see it.Detente on the war of words?I would evoke a coup,if I had that power,though.For the good of suffering Lakers fans everywhere.LOL.

          • Daryl Peek

            We suffered in the 90′s, the mid 2000′s, are now and will suffer again, after the coming come up if we live long enough as fans. Ebbs and flows is how it goes. No team is always on top. I fully expect the Lakers will always RYZUP

          • independantbynature

            I hope so.But I always had more faith in the shot callers before.I’ll have to see Jimmy do something right,first.I don’t like what I see coming from him so far.

        • Chrmngblly

          OK. Then tell us the reason.

      • Marcel Akende Atiabet

        You guys will be shocked how bad Jeanie can be. I don’t believe she is smart as people think she is. If we believe in Dr. Buss, then believe that Jim is the smarter one between them. You guys are too carried away be or with Jeanie. No disrespect.

        • ra

          I would venture to guess, that if you queried all owners of the other NBA teams, they would ‘much rather’ deal with Jeanie than Jim. Probably overwhelmingly unanimously so. It’s not just all about player choices and things like that – decisions are made at ‘higher levels’ (read, the wealthy owners) that ‘actually’ drive the NBA.

    • truth24

      You said gasol got traded? Haha Fucking idiot

      • Daryl Peek

        You can’t be that ignorant?! Gasol was traded dummy! David Stern rescinded the trade. That means it was done and the commissioner said no send them back. Understand now smart ass?

        • truth24

          He never got traded idiot it was an attempt to have him traded which failed. He’s still a laker but he needs to go. Hes too slow and more of a defensive liability. You obviously are a Jimmy supporter the past is the past. you mean to tell me if dr.buss was alive he would approve of what’s been happening this season. He would clearly know that hiring coach dumbass was a mistake. Jimmy talked his dad out of hiring Phil I’m sure just cuz he hating on him for dating his sister and wanting some part of the team.

          • Daryl Peek

            “Some owners pushed Stern to demand the trade be nullified, and the Hornets be made to keep Paul on the roster for the foreseeable future”

            You do understand what nullified means right? If not I suggest you google it and stop calling people idiot when you have no clue what you’re talking about!!

            I’m a Laker fan, not a Phil Jackson worshiper! This organization was great before Phil and will be after. He’s not our only begotten savior!

            “Even when Dr. Buss was fighting his illness he was involved in every decision” –Jeanie Buss

            Both Phil and Jeanie said Dr. Buss made that decision. Why do they need to lie? Dr. Buss was the one who forced Phil out in 2004. Jimmy and Mitch were the ones who convinced Dr. Buss to rehire Phil in 2005. Jimmy was the one who contacted Phil in 2012 about the HC job….

            “Jimmy left the meeting happy but Mitch insisted they would continue to interview others. I believe Dr. Buss made the decision to hire D’antoni.” –Phil Jackson

            Dr Buss was the one who said he would “absolutely not” give Phil a FO stake. This is what Phil has been wanting for the longest. All of this info is out there. Instead of believing ESPN First Take do your own homework and you’ll find the truth and not look like an ass calling people out with false info!

          • Candice Montgomery

            Did you even read what you copy/pasted? That had nothing to do with Pau Gasol. Pau wasn’t traded. What you’re talking about is the aborted Chris Paul trade.

          • Daryl Peek

            Not you too? WOW

            Gasol and LO were traded in a three team deal for CP3. Pau was ready to go to Houston and LO was on the phone with Steven A. Smith in a full meltdown because he was traded. CP3 called Kobe to inform him he was on his way to the Lakers. An hour later he called Kobe back saying “Man you not gone believe this?! They rescinded the trade”

            In a physical form, no they all never touched their new teams but the deal was done and the GM had been given full authority to make the trade but Stern intervened on behalf of other owners crying about the money the Lakers were saving in the deal, thus Stern nullified it in the name of basketball interest of the Hornets.

          • ra

            What makes any of us think that anything anyone says, especially in the press, is the way things actually are?

            Both Phil, and Jeanie are going to say whatever they want, to the media, to make things seem as though they proceeded a certain way. This saves ‘face’ for everyone involved.

            Truth is, when Phil was ‘at first’ solicited for the head coach job, and then before he could even respond, other calls were ‘quickly made’ that weekend after decisions were made, and then the D’Antoni decision appeared ‘rushed’ and even shocking to some (to Phil, at least, and all of Lakers nation, I’m sure), proves that things happened that were ‘quite unexpected’, and any statements after the fact are certainly ‘spins’ on it.

            Unless you were in the offices over that weekend DP (and maybe you were?), how do you know what transpired?

            Fess up if you know someone in the FO, personally. It seems that way.

          • Daryl Peek

            When Dr. Buss sat down with Michael Eaves in 2005, the words he spoke were absolutely how he felt about things and a precursor to the events of today. There’s no amount of poker face assumption that can make me think otherwise given how things actually played out from that time forward.

            Jeanie’s beef with her dad over Phil was real. This is the thing most want to sweep under the rug and is of most importance in the shape of things today. That drama was never totally resolved. You don’t have to be an insider to see that.

          • Marcel Akende Atiabet

            Gasol was traded.

          • fakerstolakers

            He was traded on the paper or in principal It is both one and the same. If he physically did not relocate, that does not mean he was not traded. He was!

            If he was not traded, why was there any need for Mr. Commissioner to cancel the deal? He would have kept it status quo!

    • independantbynature

      Daryl,Dr. Buss was successful,a self-made man.Jimmy is neither,The same rules do not apply.Nepotism is not a resume.Jimmy has no idea what he’s doing.To compare the two is just ludacris and I don’t mean the rapper.

      • Daryl Peek

        Dr. Buss is the man who put Jimmy in charge, so your nepotism charge is a shot at the Don. No ones comparing Jimmy his dad but those who want him ousted. Anyone with half a brain knows there will be a learning curb be it Jeanie or Jimmy in charge. This is why Dr. Buss left Mitch with the clan. I ask that you and others stop looking for a scapegoat when the process of transition has just begun.

        • independantbynature

          The process of transition began with Jimmy hiring Brown 3 yrs. ago,if not earlier.Kupchak wanted Adelman.Jimmy didn’t listen.Everyone(Kobe,Howard,the fans) wanted PJ to replace him.Jimmy didn’t listen.Anyone “with half a brain”could see that Antoni was a bad fit for the Lakers.Jimmy is not a scapegoat.He is the shot caller and as such the buck stops there.It would be disingenuous to do as you ask.A learning curb would be understandable if that was what it was and not just I know better than everyone else ego and I’m doing it my way no matter what.Like Magic,I don’t believe in Jimmy Buss.And that saddens me because I’ve been a Lakers fan since 1965 and will be one until I die.I don’t blame Dr. Buss for leaving his business to his son.I’m just sorry that the apple fell so far from the tree.

          • Daryl Peek

            We’ll agree to disagree because the FO working have been a collective for a long time. I highly doubt Jimmy vetoed Kupchak’s input. Mitch is not a yes man. I just can’t see him rolling like that. Jimmy is absolutely the whipping boy given Dr. Buss ran Phil off in the past when he chose Kobe over a unified Shaq and Phil. Jeanie was the one who fell out with her father over that. She’s the one who left her Lakers post and chose not to speak to her dad over it for a long time.

            The grooming began back in the early 2000′s but the transition started when Dr. Buss passed…

            “Even when Dr. Buss was fighting his illness he was involved in every decision” –Jeanie Buss

  • TheTruthKills

    It’s all but a done deal. Phil is gone. Jim Buss wins again.

    • J Taylor

      If so, the dark days are upon us. The might Lakers legacy will have fallen.
      - Sad.

      How long until Mitch leaves?
      And players stop coming to the Lakers and choose the Clippers instead?

      • LakersHeatBeef

        Mitch has his contract up at seasons,he is free to leave this disaster that is for sure.Players already are picking the Clippers over the Lakers in free agency.These are the dark days for the Lakers.;

  • Daryl Peek

    Kobe also deflected the luxury tax plight question he was asked. We all hate losing as LN but Kobe is not being realistic.

    • NickOld

      This is reminiscent of the time when he wants to be traded in 07, except he was the undisputed best player in the world back then.

  • J Taylor

    If the front office let’s Phil get away, they will no longer be a team that free agents and top tier coaching would want to come to.

    All of this front office chaos is killing the team’s allure, reputation, and fanbase. If the team let’s phil get away, a lot of Loyal Lakers fans will stop watching games. – This team is embarrassing.

    • LakersHeatBeef

      Phil Jackson has officially agreed to the job with New York.

  • Aaron davis

    It’s a shame that dr. Jerry buss left his kids something good before he past away and his son has ran it n the ground!!! I know dr. Buss is skaking his head like I leave u the lakers and u do this to all I have put n this team!!! It has to be a sad day for all the fans like me who has to deal with this mess all season!!!!! Please for Christ sake get it togather or let’s fine someone who will!!!!!

    • Daryl Peek

      Really dude? You’re talking like Dr. Buss never had a losing season. 92-94 mayne, both seasons were under 35 wins. This is not a first and won’t be the last time the Lakers slip. The come back is sweet but not overnight.

  • Jarius

    As great a coach Phil is, that does NOT necessarily translate to being a great GM/Director of Operations. That is as hands on a job there is and requires a lot of patience from scouting players, developing young talent, and making the right moves in FA and what not.

    If I’m looking for a GM, my first call will be to either Jerry West, or RC Buford of the Spurs or Presti of OKC.

  • Glen Rice

    Dr. Buss is in heaven. Jerry West in GS. Shaq in Sac. Riley in Miami. Magic in Dodgertown. and PJ in NYC.

    WHO IS THE FACE AND LEADER OF THIS FRANCHISE!?!?! Seems to me the guys above are making moves, and were taking steps backwards and running around in circles.

  • Lakers4Life

    That’s right! Except for the few Dumbtoni cock suckers, almost all Laker fans want Phil Jackson back next season and so it shall be! Just wat for the big news this summer everyone as we’re in for a great surprise :-)

  • Sylvia Ross

    Daryl, why don’t you become a writer for jim buss. You know every thing.

    • 3339

      He can’t he to busy wiping his a-ss. lol

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