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Topic: Nick Young is arguably the most popular player on the team right now. Today we examine how much Nick Young is worth and what is the maximum amount the Lakers should pay him?

Context: As the Lakers attempt to build their roster back into a championship contender, they have a number of intriguing options that they could choose to bring back next year.

The most popular among those players is Nick Young, aka Swaggy P. Young is the team’s leading scorer, excels at coming off the bench, and is great in the locker room. However, he is still a role player and the Lakers have big free agent ambitions that they can not afford to sacrifice.

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One of the biggest mistakes a team can make is overpaying role players. The Lakers, in particular are targeting big-name free agents in 2015 and 2016, and must maintain the cap room necessary to pursue them.

Of course all championship teams have excellent role players. The Lakers are known for stars, but it’s guys like Derek Fisher, Robert Horry, Michael Cooper, and Byron Scott who played huge roles in making the Lakers champions.

Nick Young has the skill set to be a contributor on a championship team, and he wants to be a Laker, but where should the team draw the line?

Verdict: We went to Twitter to ask our fans what is the maximum that the Lakers should pay Nick Young to remain with the team, here are some of the responses:

It was a little surprising to see the fans stay in the $3-4 million range for the most part. While most acknowledge Young’s importance, very few are willing to break the bank for Young, which speaks to the overall intelligence of Lakers fans.

Young has the chance to be a gunner off the bench, much like Jamal Crawford of the Los Angeles Clippers and J.R. Smith of the New York Knicks. So it only makes sense to consider what those guys are getting paid.

Crawford’s contract goes as high as just below $5.7 million while Smith’s goes as high as $6.4 million. That gives us a good idea of what Young could command in the open market.

In the end, the Lakers keeping Young will have as much to do with what other teams are willing to pay him as well, but he has indicated that he would take less money to stay in Los Angeles.

The Lakers must be careful, but giving Young a three-year deal in the $4-5 million range would be beneficial to both sides, and not cripple the Lakers salary cap.
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  • michael

    4 year 22 mio.

    • http://www.haveslot.com/ richard

      ???!!!!???

  • comrade24

    4 year 20 million, would offer Pau the same thing.

    • J Taylor

      Pau $6-8M depending on the team’s finances and who they bring in… AND, a No-Trade clause out of respect.

      Having said that, I expect he’d be kept 1 season, and then traded to Memphis as the team would probably need to shed his contract to clear enough space to sign Love.

      When he’s done, Pau’s jersey should be retired in the Rafters for his contributions to the team. – 2 rings, 3 championship appearances, and all the “trade noise” he endured while playing on a high level and being professional. #StayClassyLakers

      • imbwar

        Again like the idea…yet I don’t see Gasol signing for one year when he is a unrestricted free agent… he’s making 19mil this year I highly doubt he take 6-8 when there will be teams that will offer more money on less years… and I order to shed a contract to sign Love Gasol contract would have to match Love’s per year salary in order for the trade to go through which is in the 14-17 million dollar range. Memphis may offer him a 3yr 30million which the Lakers cant match.

        • purplerain53

          If Memphis can offer him $ 10 mil. per year, then he should go there.Bringing him back to the Lakers will be a huge mistake. Pau will soon turn 34 and with his injury record from the last 2 years, he won’t get much playing time, no matter who will be the coach.

          • imbwar

            If Gasol is with the Lakers he’ll be starting and getting the minutes of a starter…with a new coach comes a new style and if that coach is Byron Scott it will be a slower pace of style running a double post… money may not be Gasol main concern yes the Griz can pay that and I am not saying the lakers should (I would hope not) I think 3 years 21 million would be perfect.

        • Josh

          I don’t think Minny would agree to Gasol for KLove straight up, even if we threw in a draft pick or two. A smaller contract for Gasol, which would be more reasonable, plus a younger player and a pick would make the trade more enticing for the Wolves. They keep saying they won’t trade Love, but you know they don’t want this to turn into Kevin Garnett all over again.

          • imbwar

            I agree with that however Minn doesn’t have time on there side anymore… they just been eliminated from PO, the president just said publicly he doesn’t know if the contract they gave Kevin “was worth it yet”… and remember even if they do trade Kevin, Kevin doesn’t have to resign with that team… so any team that tries and trades for Kevin may only have him for that year only, if reports are to be believed and he wants to come to LA, what team would rent Kevin for a year, give up good players and maybe a draft pick basically for nothing..they may have to take Gasol straight up…

      • Chrmngblly

        Hell no! No more of these Steve-Nash-guaranteed contracts. We are being strangled by this has-been player over his whole 3 year contract. I would love to have 10 million more cap flexibility.

    • New Power House

      Young in no shape or form could command the same salary than a player with two rings and better use in a championship team. Nick is a simple average player that can score at times,but has not defense or ability to create for others. No more than 3 mill a year for two years with the player option on the second year.

      • http://www.haveslot.com/ richard

        that’s reason…. good post!

      • Computer Networking

        That’s not true. Nick young has never had a coach to utilize him and teach him. He is a selfish player, but he gets the job done.he has the ability to create for others. If you have the ability to create for yourself, creating for others is easy.

        • New Power House

          My comment is based on the fact that he can not command the same salary as Gasol. Young is not a smart player and his game basically shows that every night. He can score,but typically not when it matters and he is a terrible defender. He is selfish and kind of show off. He thinks that he is better than his actual game. Not a bad bench role player,but I would prefer a more round up player if is more than 3 mill a year. No player in the actual team can play defense consistently and that is why many of them love Pringles. No defense and just run and gun!

          • imbwar

            The market is nearly double the 3 million you’re suggesting, again if you look at the same players (position), same years in the NBA and numbers Nick will get 4-5 maybe 5.5 a year easily… any “well rounded player” is making 7/8 million… Marvin Williams is making 7.5 million… JR Smith is @6.5

          • New Power House

            Nevertheless the Lakers gave him way less for two years. If he wants more money,he will have to go some where else. But Lakers might over paid again and Meeks will also will try to get more. The logical thing is no contracts for more than two years with the minimum offer. Take it or leave it! Cupcake and Jimbaco have to be though and save the cash for the 2015 or 2016. First fire Pringles!

          • imbwar

            No more than 2 years with the minimum, far from logical… not going to happen… you’ll have a team worse than this year Gasol 19 mil comes off the books in 2015 and Kobe’s in 2016 so that doesn’t make sense… but instead of trying to prove my point, lets all set back and watch what happens…

        • http://www.haveslot.com/ richard

          Nick young is 29 years old this season… and is a 7 years veteran… he is what he is… if he was 24-25 years old I may agree with you about him being able to learn how to create for others… but at this stage of his career, he is basically a scorer that cannot create for others.. he may improve a little if he works on it, but habits are formed at least 2 years to be really become a part of who you are… and I say, it is rather far fetch for NY do form that habit now.

          • Computer Networking

            When nick young was in the starting get role, you saw him create for other players. We know ow that creating shots for others is not out of the question for him, but in a bench role, he becomes selfish.

  • J Taylor

    To most other teams: $6-8M per year.
    To the Lakers: $4-5M a one year contract*, and a handshake agreement that Nick will be here for a LONG time and that $4M per year for the next 7-8 years makes him nearly $30M, give him LA glory, 2 championships, and all of the fringe benefits of living in LA.
    * LA isn’t going to sign anyone to long term contracts until they have settled the K.Love and K.Durant situations in 2 years. Long term contracts lock the team’s leverage due to cap issues.

    IF Nick could guarantee that his BFF Gilbert Arenas had matured, wouldn’t be a locker room cancer, and willing to play for $2M, that would be a win/win for the Team, Nick, and Gilbert.

    I welcome Nick to the Lakers as a “lifer” as well as the rest of the guys who said that they’d like to stay with the Lakers for a long time: Young, Hill, Meeks, Farmar, Henry, Bazemore, & Ryan.

    • comrade24

      Next year i’d like to see Exum, Kobe, Deng, Hill, Gasol with Marshall, Farmar, Bazemore,Young, Kelly, Sacre coming off of the bench. Don’t think we’ll be able to keep Meeks. Just gotta be patient and wait for KLove. I seriously doubt Kevin Durant will test free agency, especially if OKC wins a title this year or next or really at least makes it back to the Finals. They have a young core group of talented guys, veteran leadership mixed in, good coach, and loyal fan base. He doesn’t seem like the type of guy that cares about the Hollywood lifestyle or playing in a big market.

      • Chrmngblly

        Keep Meeks and move Kobe to the 3. Deng is OK but we can do without him.

        • http://www.haveslot.com/ richard

          Deng is 6’9 and plays PF and SF… he should do well playing alongside Kobe… If GAsol sings for 8M,I think FO should sign him…. I don’t agree partially that we can do without a type of player like Deng… I believe we need a player of Deng’s caliber. He is strong enough to defend the 4 and 3, he can score, and rebounds well for his size. If Gasol go after the money and decides to go to other team, then we should go hard for Greg Monroe, and offer him that money..

          • lakermatt84

            Can’t see Monroe signing anywhere for less than 14m a year, rather find somebody to keep k-loves seat warm

        • Computer Networking

          We have to keep kobe heathy. It would be too big of a risk to have kobe defending small forwards.

          • Chrmngblly

            That is exactly the point. He is already too slow to guard Westbrook and those type of guards. Anybody can bulk up, but nobody can speed up. He is a strong 6-6. There is no reason to shame him at the 2. He can extend his career at the three. Why do you think it would be risky? It is just the other way around.

          • Computer Networking

            I see your point. Moving him to the three would be good for some teams, but for him to be at the three when up against indiana, miami, new York would be a risk because these threes play a lot more physical. We have to be careful because of the injuries sustained. We don’t want him playing that physical after an Achilles injury.

      • Computer Networking

        I like the sound of that, but I would rather see Exum come off the bench while Kyle lowry ran the starting point and hill instead of sacre.

        • Chrmngblly

          We must get Embiid or Vonleh or one of the European centers in the draft. I love Exum but we need rim protection so badly and there are no available FAs that are defensive minded. Monroe is a known defensive liability.

          • http://www.haveslot.com/ richard

            All these years that I have been following the Lakers, one thing is consistent in their draft processes… they never draft base on needs, but on the best talent available on the board. There is no reason to deviate from that this summer. So, whoever is the best talent available when the Lakers draft, that is what we will have on our team.

          • Chrmngblly

            It just seems that way.

          • comrade24

            well, we have so many holes in the roster that getting the best talent at any position makes sense. We have lots of options, some better than others. just have to hope for a little luck on draft day. If we got lucky and could draft Parker then we have a 3 and signing Kyle Lowry in FA would make a lot of sense. However, if we draft a point guard then Luol Deng would make sense to sign in FA.

          • Computer Networking

            With every player you will get some bad. You are right. He is not the best blocker, but he does control the boards and to be honest, we can’t really measure his complete game because it would be unfair. His first couple of seasons, he had no help and still averaged double doubles. Then Drummond came and he was moved to power forward but he still produced consistently. Then comes Josh Smith because Detroit wanted to try their luck at run and gun so monroe loses minutes and still produced. He is an outstanding asset and paired with the right player, he may surprise you.

          • Chrmngblly

            We will never get him. We have nothing to trade for him so that’s out. So we will re-sign Pau and live with it unless we can draft a center. After the draft, if things go badly, I expect us to sign some kid from Europe or Botswana or somewhere and see if he develops.

          • comrade24

            Monroe is a restricted FA so we could get him, but Detroit has the right to match any offer.

    • imbwar

      I like where youre going with this, but Nick is 28 and will be 29 I think in June, Nick being a Laker in his late 30′s is unlikely and being that he will be 29 this is his last chance at a big contract….I can see the lakers offer him a 4 year deal with the last year being a player option for 18.5 million..

      • purplerain53

        A PO for $ 18.5 million? Dude, what do you smoke? Change the weed. This one is not good for you.

        • imbwar

          purplerain53, the TOTALLY value of the contract would be 18.5 for 4 years… that means 4.62 million a year…WITH THE LAST YEAR at 4.6 million player option… (read slowly and you’ll get it)

          • purplerain53

            The way you wrote it here it was very confusing. And even $ 4.6 mil. per year starting is little bit too much for Swaggy P. He should be paid not more than $ 3.5 for the first year.

          • imbwar

            I will be more clearer… though $4.6 is still low for a guy putting up the numbers Nick is compared to Jamal Crawford, JR Smith and Marvin Williams whom all make over 5+ million a years which is what he’ll get on the open market..

      • Computer Networking

        Nick will stay for a 4-5 million a year for 4 years. If they can get him for that, they should do it.

        • imbwar

          I believe that Nick would also, I don’t think there will be a huge market for him, he played in a “7 seconds or less” offense where his job was to shoot and shoot and then shoot some more, wasn’t counted on to get others involved, grab rebounds or play tremendous defense… other teams out there are going to expect that from him, they’ve always have that’s the reason he’s moved to so many teams before.. Nick has grown into a very good player overall (still shoots a lot) but I think a team will offer him that 4/5.5 range and the Lakers will match it OR the Lakers will offer him a deal between 4-5; 5 being max and Nick will sign to stay in LA…

          • Computer Networking

            I believe he is worth the money but the Lakers would be better off offer great him a long term deal at less than 4 million. He just wants to stay in la. That’s not unreasonable.

          • imbwar

            I hear you… but again at 29 he has maybe 6 more years to make some major money while he can… and less than 4 million I don’t think that’s something Nick would be interested in.. maybe he would.. this is his one and only chance to cash in… his numbers dictated that he makes 5 million a year.

          • Computer Networking

            That’s true, but he has already stated that he would play at a discount to stay in LA because of his family. That’s why I said the Lakers could get him for about 3.5 as long as they allow him to play there for no less than 4 years and to make it a little sweeter for him, add in a no trade clause. He will sign for that deal.

          • imbwar

            When did he say that? I know he wants to be here in LA, but until he hits the market there isn’t a discount to be had until another team sets the market for him.. and the market for his years in the NBA, numbers he’s but up and his age would dictate an average salary of 5 to 6… that’s a 3 million dollar discount that I just don’t see Nick taken, 3.5 after taxes in LA, he’s looking at 1.3 million… And what I know how Nick, I don’t see him taken less than 5, I could be wrong but we will all know in a few months..

    • Computer Networking

      We have to keep hill for sure. I believe that he has the most promise out of all

      • TheZuluNation

        I think Hill should be our starting PF going into next season.

        • Computer Networking

          I think that depends on what moves the Lakers would be able to make. But I would definitely give him the opportunity depending on the situation.

  • Moose

    A contract for Swaggy P. of 4 years $13 million dollars is more than enough.

    • http://www.haveslot.com/ richard

      i can agree with that… and no more than…

    • imbwar

      The market doesn’t dictated that number… 3.25 a year for a guy avg 17points a gm…when there are guys making double that averaging less points… the Lakers will offer him something in the 5/6 range 4years.

  • http://www.haveslot.com/ richard

    People are quick to over-value a Nick Young. when last summer no one even took him… he is at best a 6-7th player off the bench, and yet you all are willing to give him 5M/year? Woiw! 10M in 3 years is what he is worth in the open market.

    I say, have him test the market and see who are interested.

    • Chrmngblly

      Yes. Did you see the highlight 360 he did under the basket against the Grizz? Sweet. I have not seen anything like that since Worthy was around. I love Kobe, Young and Bazemore at the 3. What about Farmar? Is he too injury prone? Meeks is holding down the 2 just fine with Farmar backing him up and backing up Marshall, too.

      If we can’t draft a 5, do you think Monroe could be a starting center for us? He mostly is a 4, you know. What is he, 6-10? Can he jump? Is he athletic? I have not watched him.

      Although I remain doubtful about the love for Love we have resulting in anything, if we are serious about grabbing him in 2015, we have to have someone who is expendable in the 4-spot.

      Your thoughts on the center position? No more guaranteed contracts, either.

      • http://www.haveslot.com/ richard

        Monroe is 6’11″ and is 250lbs, agile BIG man, bigger than Cousins…

        NY’s 360 is just that a 360.. it does not say anything other than a 360 dunk… it will not translate to wins nor will it produce wins.

        I have no problem seeing Kobe at the 3, i think playing the 3 will save his legs better… he did play the 3 when Phil was around coaching.

        As for Bazemore, he is basically a combo guard that can defend multiple positions… which I really like. Him and Kobe should play together along with Meeks.

        I agree with you, it is the 4 spot that we have to really go after… Deng can solve that problem, Ryan Kelly and Hill will not be bad either, but having a player like Deng will really complete the starting lineup on both ends of the floor.

        Monroe-Deng-Kobe-Meeks-Bazemore…
        Hill-Kelly-Young-Henry-Farmar

        • Chrmngblly

          http://bleacherreportdotcom/articles/1973077-previewing-the-25-biggest-names-on-the-2014-nba-free-agency-market/page/18

          That being said,
          Monroe has already shown elite rebounding, low post scoring and passing, so
          teams won’t be dealing in just potential. He’s been a productive player so far,
          and even if his ceiling isn’t as high as others due to a lack of athleticism
          and rim-protecting abilities, he’s undoubtedly a starting-caliber big in the
          NBA.

          There are other reports that really put down his defensive capabilities even more. What is worse is that most doubt we could land Monroe anyway. There is no premiere FA center available. To me it depends on the draft. If Embiid or Vonleh are available, take Embiid or Vonleh.

          I thought Deng was a 3, also.

        • comrade24

          Deng’s a little small at the 4 i think. I think it’s possible Deng and Kobe could alternate at 2 and 3 depending on matchups. Deng could certainly bother some of the quicker sg’s like James Harden. Kobe could also be switched to guard Wade and let Deng guard Lebron when the play the Heat. Just examples.

    • Josh

      I think he would make $5-6 on the open market. He made $6 last year before taking a huge cut to play for the Lakers this season. I think he’s worth about $3-4–I think the tax-payer MLE is $3.3–but his flash and personality would lead some team to overpay.

      If he opts out, I think the Lakers will let him walk. And then fans will clamor over him and wish the Lakers would bring him back just like Shannon Brown and Sasha and all the other guys the Lakers let go when they wanted more money.

      • http://www.haveslot.com/ richard

        I cannot disagree with that… I too, feel that the Lakers may let him walk if he demands higher than 4M/year, He can easily be replaced by Bazemore, Wes, and Henry

        • comrade24

          i doubt that will happen. It seems like a pretty sure thing that Young will be back next season. I think what can’t be overvalued about Young is his presence in the locker room. He seems like a “glue” guy, someone who really helps the team chemistry. He has that jovial swagger about him, but what’s different between him and Dwight Coward with a similiar personality is Nick is a fearless competitor. If we have a competitive season next year i won’t be surprised if Young wins 6th man of the year

    • imbwar

      The market is already set… Jcrossover is at 6 million and Jr Smith is at 6.5 and Nick’s numbers are right there with theirs… so 5-6.5 million is what he will be looking for.

  • purplerain53

    Nick Young should take 2 years deal, with $ 3.5 mil. starting. He is not a starter and never will be. All he does is to shoot a lot, so he can score in double digit.

    • http://www.haveslot.com/ richard

      agreed… that’s the correct price for NY…

    • TheZuluNation

      $3-4 mil is the right price.

  • PlayerHaters

    Lets not be stupid here. He deserves no more than $5 mil/seaso
    idgaf how many points this nigga puts up.

    • Chrmngblly

      41 pts is a bunch even against Utah. I really wish we could see how he plays WITH Kobe. Can they share the ball? How good of friends are they? Will Kobe feed him when he gets hot in the 4th quarter? We really, desperately need a strong coach to balance these guys out. And Meeks dropped 42 against OKC. We need Kobe to step up to the next level and lead by sharing the ball more.

      With those kind of guys around, we could get competitive fast if we draft a center and buy Bledsoe or Lowrey, possibly. Actually, we don’t need Marshall to become another gunner. Sacre looks like a totally different player than he did a year ago, too. We just have to stay under the cap this year and buy 1 guy and draft another.

      • PlayerHaters

        41 pts is alot i agree. But you gotta remember that this guy’s only dominant with the ball in his hands. Kobe is just like that too so what’s gonna happen when Kobe comes back? His shot attempts will decrease and he’ll go back to being an average bench player. With Kobe out of the picture he became the go-to guy. Notice how they pass it to him alot when the Q is winding down. Honestly, putting Nick Young and Kobe into the same lineup isnt such a good idea. You dont want 2 dominant ballhandlers on the same floor (one of them who doesnt really play great defense), what you want are people like Meeks who can still find a way to be effective WITHOUT the ball in their hands.

        Lakers SERIOUSLY NEED a Center. Lakers are just fine at the PG position. theres no need for Lakers to go out of their way just to get either one. the real problem is protecting the rim. Lakers need a STRONG FRONTCOURT

        • Chrmngblly

          OK. We agree. I just always wondered why Kobe could rarely subordinate his game in favor of the hot hand. I think it is a good thing to have 2 or 3 guys that can heat up at any time.
          And as long as Marshal can shoot well enough to keep the other team honest, we don’t need him to be a gunner, either.

  • dan

    the lakers could host tryouts to determine who are the hungriest players for next year, and include kobe in them.

    yet nick thinks he has to win some unimportant regular season games to prove his worth.

  • purplerain53

    Just before the game in Utah, the Lakers have the real chance to get the 4-th seed for the lottery with another lose. N.Young picked the wrongest time and game to show his scoring abilities and by posting 41 meaningless points, he killed our chances to climb up on the draft day and pict one of the best young prospects from this class ( Parker, Embiid, Wiggins ). For that, he does not deserve to be back as a Laker. If he accepts to take his PO ($1.2 mil.) that is OK, if not, let him go wherever he wants.That is my opinion.

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