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Lakers Nation Debate: Has Marshall Earned A Permanent Starting Job? Reviewed by Momizat on . Topic Of Debate: Should Kendall Marshall continue starting once Steve Blake, Steve Nash, and Jordan Farmar return back from injuries? Context: Kendall Marshall Topic Of Debate: Should Kendall Marshall continue starting once Steve Blake, Steve Nash, and Jordan Farmar return back from injuries? Context: Kendall Marshall Rating: 0
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Lakers Nation Debate: Has Marshall Earned A Permanent Starting Job?

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Topic Of Debate: Should Kendall Marshall continue starting once Steve Blake, Steve Nash, and Jordan Farmar return back from injuries?

Context: Kendall Marshall has become a relative surprise in light of this injury plagued Lakers team this season. When he was called up from the D-League, many felt he would just become a temporary filler for Jordan Farmar and Steve Blake until they were healthy and ready to return, but his growth from last year as a labeled “bust” has been amazing.

In his tenure with the Lakers, he’s averaged 10.5 points, 3.1 rebounds, and 9.6 assists. And to the shock of many, he’s shown that he can shoot the ball by making 1.8 three-point field goals a game on 45% shooting  from behind the arc.

His immediate success has led us to wonder whether or not he’s earned a starters role. Nash, Blake, and Farmar are all eyeing to return on the court in February, and as a result that’s going to cause a log-jam at the guard position.

Verdict: We took this poll question to Twitter to get the fans take on whether they felt Kendall has earned a starter’s role.

I presented the poll question:

Here are some responses:

Kendall Marshall’s early success in Los Angeles has been very fun to watch and fans certainly appreciate the hard work he’s put in, so he can become a viable contributor in the NBA.

With that being said, I’m in the group that feels Marshall should come off the bench once Farmar and Blake are healthy. I believe that Marshall is at his best in the second unit, as that allows him to be able to get up and down the court with some of the younger and more athletic players on this Lakers roster.

I’m also in the group that believes that Marshall’s incompetence on the defensive end is something that the first unit can’t afford to have. This team is already terrible as it is defensively, and it doesn’t help if the first line of defense can’t stay in front of his man.

Farmar and Blake have proven that they can impact the game on both ends of the floor, as a result they should share the bulk of the minutes at the point guard position.

What this does though is allow the Lakers to be more flexible in dealing players as we get closer to the trade deadline. We’d have to think one of the guards is dealt.
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Nick Young Frustrated He’s Let The Fans And City Down


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  • incendy

    I would like Blake to start and Farmar to be his backup. Marshall has been great offensively, but his defense is abysmal.

    • nlruizjr

      Farmar and Blake are better defenders but are not that versatile in getting others involved, so we’re damned if we do and damned if we don’t, plus the fact that bringing in Farmar and/or Blake might mess with the chemistry Kmar has developed with the now starters, therefore the Lakers would have to go back to square one and it’s to late in the season to be starting over.

      • incendy

        You do realize we lose almost every single game we play. We had a winning record with Blake as a starter and Farmar off the bench.

        • Devon Murray

          You do realize that injuries are plaguing this team and if it weren’t for kendall it would be much worse, and being 2 or 3 games over .500, well if YOU want to call that a winning record..by all means…knock yourself out…

  • The Honky Tonk

    I want Kendall Marshall to remain the starter.I hate Steve Blake and Steve Nash they are you’re typical old white guys at the YMCA.Jordan Farmar should be the backup to Kendall Marshall.Just look at the numbers and Kendall Marshall has earned the god damn job at Point Guard.He is only 22 years old and you Lakers fans are hating on him that just shows how little you’re knowledge is.

    • dparker626

      I agree that KM should be the starter, by a mile. Zero reason to have a 40 yr old or a 34 yr old, both of whom are not future pieces, eating minutes when a 22 yr lotto pick could be getting valuable experience. So his defense needs work, whose doesn’t? Farmar is a proven backup, keep him but let’s drop the notion that he’s going to be beyond what he is. KM could flourish. Check Steve Nash’s stats his first few years, not as strong as KM’s have been so far. Not even close.

    • hookedonnews

      No one hates him, but you’ve got to be realistic. He’s a one dimensional player who was recently in the D-League. He has played well, but he’s not even close to Nash or Blake in skill set and knowledge. I don’t know what YMCA you’re frequenting, but I haven’t seen anyone like Steve Nash there. Marshall has not earned the job. He’s only there because better players are injured. He may have a future with the team because of the injury situation. No one knows if Nash can stay healthy, and his minutes will probably be limited at least in the beginning. Same for Blake & Farmar. If you’re going to win games you need a PG who can score if he has to. I can’t believe anyone his age has a shot that looks like that.

      • 2badmothafucka

        The team actually wins games when Nash and Blake are in the starting lineup. Marshall just puts up hollow stats for a losing team… basically a low budget version of Melo.

        • Devon Murray

          really look at the lakers record with Nash and Blake starting… I don’t even know why I even responded… I just wasted 4 minutes i’ll never get back….smh

      • the truth

        3P% – .455. 10AST in 33MIN played.
        “Marshall has not earned the job.” = troll

        • hookedonnews

          How many shots does he take a game? And how many of those games have we won? The idea that this guy should start over a healthy Steve Nash is ridiculous. Have you actually ever seen Nash play when he’s not injured? Who do you think understands D’Antoni’s offense better or makes better decisions on the court? Not 1 person in a hundred would say that KM is better than a healthy Steve Nash. Stats are fine, but there’s a lot more to playing PG than stats (especially when you’re taking like 3 shots a game). I can’t even believe we’re having this conversation.

          • Daryl Peek

            Me too mayne. This topic is straight buffoonery!

          • Devon Murray

            Dantoni will be in his final year of his contract, 3 years 12 million he sign in 2010… when he’s gone so will Nash, its time to turn the page on Nash and Mike… Nash great player but at 40/41 he needs to retire… respectfully.. but i’ll just let you see for yourself as the season continues… I wont post anything else on this topic… I let nature take it’s course…

          • hookedonnews

            I wouldn’t assume MDA will be gone when his contract expires. If he has a healthy roster next season, and the team bombs he would probably be gone. There are no championship coaches out there who are unemployed. I think they are looking to acquire players who fit D’Antoni’s system. If the team plays well next season I think he’ll be given a new contract. As for Nash, I’m not an optimist when it comes to his health. I hope he can stay healthy and play out his contract, but I wouldn’t put money on it. He will probably retire after next season if not sooner depending on what happens with the nerve issue.

          • Daryl Peek

            Agreed on this season and next for MDA. the team will have to show much improvement for him to get another contract. He will likely have the type of players he needs next season and much younger ones at that.

          • Devon Murray

            MDA has 1 year left on his deal (2015), Lakers have option for a fourth…knowing Kobe in his final seasons improvement means playoffs and then some… and a chip run with money to spend this year and next…

          • Devon Murray

            I hate that I sound like I don’t like Nash, I respect the hell out of the guy, that series against the Spurs, dude was unstoppable, until they intentionally hurt him, imo… So I want him back, he has the calm that NO Laker has the polar opposite of Kobe… The is an silent whisper that with a new year, money to spend, a high than usual draft pick since Bynum, that B. Scott, as I sure you know has taken teams to the finals, defensive minded coach, is in play for the HC job, and 90% of the NBA runs that system using a stretch 4, new NBA rules with hand check, etc calls for a stretch 4… GS, DAL, SA, MIA, OKC…and others I tink its actually easier to name the teams that don’t run it…B.Scott did in Jersey… I don’t think MDA lack of a defensive scheme and Rambis hire to help coach the defense side is going to fly, I don’t see them extending MDA with Kobe in the last 2 years and the way MDA runs this system, you cant win with the way HE runs it…

          • hookedonnews

            I haven’t heard anything about a new coach (except from fans who are constantly calling for MDA’s firing). They are still paying Mike Brown part of his salary. Not sure when that ends. If they fired MDA they would have to pay him and a new coach. Of course, anything could happen. I just believe that they are going to give him a chance with a healthy roster before letting him go. Byron Scott seems to have had the majority of his success when he had Jason Kidd and Chris Paul, but then you have to have good players to win. He would not be my choice, but I’m not the one making those decisions. I don’t agree that D’Antoni can’t win or that he lacks a defensive scheme. That’s just not the case according to at least one of the assistant coaches last season. They had a defensive assistant last season who left to coach the Bobcats. I don’t know how effective a defensive coach Rambis is. There are a lot of reasons for the poor defensive numbers, but the idea that MDA doesn’t care about defense is not true if you believe what he, the coaches, and the players say. I agree that it was not a major focus when he was in Phoenix, but those teams could pretty much outscore anybody they played. This team is obviously not in that league offensively. I agree about the Spurs intentionally trying to put Nash out of that series, and they were helped by the officiating of Tim Donaghy. Whatever happens, I hope the team can get healthy, get some good players in the draft and free agency, and make a run at the Finals before Kobe retires.

      • Devon Murray

        Why do you keep bring up the D league, i’m trying to respect your basketball knowledge but, Danny Green is from the D League, chances are Wiggins, Randle and Embiid will be too so that they can develop more coming out early. And he is way better than Blake, ive watch Blake since Maryland days, a pros pro, good shooter, tough as nails, bring your lunch in a brown paper bag guy, love that about him (ACC is a great conference). Numbers don’t lie… Kendall’s averages are better than Blake’s, Nash’s and Farmar, i’m not concern about their injuries or not because when they were healthy they weren’t putting up Kendall’s numbers, and with Kendall averaging double digit points, your point seems baseless… and please stop with ” I can’t believe anyone his age has a shot that looks like that”…. Bro do yourself a favor and google “great NBA players with funny shooting forms”…. Let’s just say Reggie Miller had a “funny” looking shot and he is and was a way better shooter than Nash ever hoped to be, Nash is (from your standards) one dimensional, He’s a guy who can shoot, hit free throws yet doesn’t play defense..ever, doesn’t rebound,has trouble playing without the ball, has trouble playing with bigs, and if they’re aren’t “3″ point shooters all around him he is a lot less effective because he can finish at the rim, because he gets into the lane and kicks it to the 3 ball, so let’s just look at the facts you can not make a caes for Kendall not to start but Nash is a MVP, allstar and he was good with the Suns… need more than that, bro it’s 2014.. and time is ticking on Nash…

        • hookedonnews

          First of all, I never thought Reggie Miller had a funny looking shot (at least not to the degree that KM’s is), and the numbers say that Steve Nash was a better shooter than Reggie Miller. Nash is a 4 time member of the 50/40/90 club, and was within 0.3% of doing it again last season. If Marshall was scoring like Reggie Miller we wouldn’t be having this conversation. None of your statements about Nash are accurate other than the fact that he’s not a great defender. Yes, he rebounds, blocks shots (believe it or not), makes steals, is one of the best ball-handlers ever, and has no problem finishing at the rim. He is the most unselfish player to ever play the game and prefers to pass, but he is fully capable of taking over a game and scoring. I suggest that you get on YouTube and look at some video of Nash. There are some offensive highlights from last season and plenty of others which will show you what kind of player Nash has been and still is. Yes, time is ticking, but the clock hasn’t stopped yet (depending on the nerve problem). As for my references to the D-League, it’s just a fact that if Nash, Farmar, and Blake hadn’t been injured KM would still be there. I don’t know how many HOFer’s spent time in the D-League, but I know Steve Nash never did. As for Blake, he has played better the last 2 seasons than I’ve ever seen him play. Some of this is the influence of Nash (Blake has said that, and if you watch him he’s imitating what Nash does), and some of it is MDA’s system. IMO he was playing better than KM when he was injured. You keep referring to the stats, but Blake was shooting & scoring a lot more than Marshall and still had a lot of assists (at least until Kobe returned). Marshall’s assists will go down when Kobe comes back if he’s playing with him. I know you’re a fan of KM, but stats don’t tell the whole story. You don’t start someone like him over a 2 time MVP like Nash or someone who was playing as well as Blake was this season.

    • Kay Carter

      i agree, ppl also tend to forget this Laker team don’t have as many ppl as before, so of course we gonna lose games….but looking at tha stats KM is overall better, nd is a lot younger than tha rest of tha otha pgs….just like he became a better shooter, he will work on his defense…..blake nd nash( especially nash) is no better on defense also smh, ppl also tend to 4get that our back court sucks…farmer is tha only decent pg wit some defense, KM needs to start to develop, have farmer comin of bench…we need to develop our young guys, especially wit players like hill nd marshall who put up great #’s compare to otha players in their position

  • Sti1lmatic

    Doesn’t mater because the entire team (minus Kobe) needs to be 86′d. Although, Jodie Meeks and Nick young do look/play like they love being with the Lakers.

  • LakersHeatBeef

    Yes Kendall Marshall has earned the starting Point Guard job on the Lakers!

  • LakersHeatBeef

    Go young and develop the talent for the future,this is a race for the lottery.Tanking

  • Daryl Peek

    NON debate. In no world will Marshall start over a healthy Nash. Sorry but that’s like saying Meeks should start over Kobe because he fits better and stays healthy. Straight buffoonery to even mention it

    • nlruizjr

      Daryl, there comes a time when you have to get real, Nash was once a stud but those days are over, it’s time for you to accept the truth. !!!!!!

      • Daryl Peek

        Fantasy land is thinking Marshall a player that would not even be in the NBA right now if not for our 5th option at PG getting hurt, and to start over any of the incumbent PG’s on this roster?

        • Chrmngblly

          YES! Please accept the fact that KM is in the NBA and he’s out-performing every other guard we have on the team. We witnessed KM’s breakout—and wasn’t it cool for the young man to come through for Lakers! He’s playing for a job and I plan to root for him to get it. I am tired of you worshiping Nash based on his feats of years ago. I can hardly believe Nash has the nerve to cash his paycheck. I love Nash, too, but not enough to suck his Johnson, like you. Back off.

          • Daryl Peek

            You act as if I have a problem with Marshall?!? I like the kid. I’m just keeping it real on what’s gonna happen. Grow up mayne!

          • Chrmngblly

            Good. At least I have convinced you about Marshal. If the Gasol trade comes down with Phoenix, Nash will never see the hardwood again. He is just a waste of space on the roster. Maybe we should send Nash to the D league until he quits.
            Peek, when you say anyone who disagrees with you is “laughable” or “Clownish” or the person should “Grow up”, you show the world that you don’t think your own arguments will hold up so you have to belittle the other person. I think that shows weakness on your part. I see you as a 90# weakling type-guy. Am I right?

          • Daryl Peek

            See this is what I’m talking about. Why are you on the internet playing these type of child please games?!? I could easily go there and but for what? You decided to step to my commentary with some personal ISH over my opinion of what will happen when Nash comes back? Whatever makes you feel better mayne.

          • Chrmngblly

            This is exactly what I am talking about. I object to your needing to demean and dismiss anyone who does not agree with your ignorant opinion. You beg to be slapped down. There would be no reason for you to be so derisive if you actually had anything to say.with any merit.

          • Daryl Peek

            “demean and dismiss” You started that. You jump on a comment of mine as if your offended taking shots at me then try to say I’m berating you?!?

          • Chrmngblly

            You can berate me all you want to. I object to you demeaning anyone who disagrees with you in advance by saying things like, “to say anything else is laughable” or “Straight buffoonery to even mention it” and “Grow up mayne!”. What is wrong with you? Chill. We are going to see if Nash makes it back before his Medicare kicks in or not, real soon. Having Nash is worse than having Bynum, a year and a half of nothing and a year and a half to go. Hell, will the guy ever retire?

          • Daryl Peek

            When I said those things it was a stand alone comment not a reply unless someone came at me left to begin with as you did.

          • Chrmngblly

            True. I do disrespect you, personally. My point is I didn’t try to keep anyone else from calling bullsh*t on anything I have said, like you always do. I AM tired of you coming on here and giving Nash a blow job, too. Relax. Nash’es deeds speak for themselves or they don’t. In any case, your verbal ruffles and tongue-flourishes will not overcome the facts.

          • Daryl Peek

            Again, all I do is offer my opinion and you take offense to it on some bitch made ISH! I don’t say two words to you til you start some shit!! My post about Marshall is proven in Nash starting tonight. This is something any logical fan or GM would conclude given the history of both. My point is in no way disrespectful to KM. He is who he is at this point of his career and will be treated as so by any HC he played for.

            Why you take offense to the truth is on you but if you bring it to me the way you did we have a problem. Again, you started this by feeling some kind of way about me?

          • Chrmngblly

            OK.

    • C*HarrisTHEboss

      Sorry about your Broncos bro – that was the collective egg of the century. And yea…..that debate is complete clownery

      • Daryl Peek

        Nah man, LOL I’m a Charger fan. I lost a bet and had to bare shame til the Donkeys lost. Weight has been lifted via Seachickens.

    • lakers1232

      nash is 40 years old. marshall is has the most apg out of any healthy player. he’s 22, is among the top 3-point shooters percentage wise, and he has 9 double-doubles. This is a lost season anyway, it makes more sense to let young players develop. no point in giving nash minutes.

      • Daryl Peek

        Nash’s age doesn’t matter, the plight of the season ABSOLUTELY is of no consideration the bottom line the better player is gonna be put on the floor this season and that’s Nash if healthy. It’s comical to think Marshall has earned anything that merits benching a healthy Nash for a 2nd year player that has shown potential in 20 games of basketball on a team that has lost 18 of the last 20 games.

        The lost season absolute is BS man. You don’t do proven players like that, period. Again, that’s like saying Meeks should start in place of Kobe when he becomes healthy and ready to play. Ridiculous!

        Kobe on the possible lost season; “It’s not my job to worry about that. I’m paid to go out there and play.” and play both he and Nash will. Beyond this season for Nash, who knows?

        • Devon Murray

          Nash’s age doesnt matter, you have got to be kidding me right????? I understand you theory hoever the NBA doesn’t care about proven players who are hurt and cant stay on the floor. if Kendall is playing like he is now and Nash comes back he’s age is going to show, other pg’s are going to show his age, he wont get off his shot he had trouble last year doing it, when he was “healthy”… Nash is a first ballot, however Nash more or less will be gone by the trade deadline of 2015 or a buyout the Lakers are going to get younger…. period..

          • Daryl Peek

            If KM was all you hope he is he would not have been benched in Pheonix who had nothing behind Dragic who was injured and had a bad season last year, and KM would not have been dropped kicked by the Wizards before the ink dried on the trade paperwork between the Wiz and Suns. Again, he’d still be in the D-League if not for X the 5th PG option of the Lakers getting hurt. KM has potential but still too many glaring holes in his game to unseat Nash.

            I’m not trying to diss KM, these are just the facts. KM has done well in the 20 or so games he’s played with the Lakers and will likely get more interest now becuase of it but to say he’s earned a starters role over Nash in this small sample size is ridiculous! I don’t care what his long term possibilities are, he does not start over a healthy Nash in any reality.

          • Devon Murray

            Nash wont even be on the Lakers team by 2015, I promise you… and Danny Green sucked with the Cavs, he’s balling now, we can say that about many of players, that just emotion and to much espn bro, the 20 gms you speak of again or STILL better than what A OLD Nash as done… okay i’ll do you one better, take Kendall out of the equation please tell what Nash right now, saying he’s 100% healthy… Paul, Curry, Parker, Westbrook, Jackson, Lin, Lillard, Conley, Lawson, Goran,Lowery hell..every point guard in the west and including some backs ups, R.Jackson…are going to destroy Nash…. he…is…too…old… even at 100% he cant help this Laker team now or in the future… just reality..

          • Daryl Peek

            Nash has never been a good defensive player but he’s as good at 40 as a 22 year old KM. Marshall has no D at all.

            A Healthy Nash? We saw about 95% in 11-12 and he was top 3 in the NBA. Marshall will never have the career consistency shooting Nash has; 50/40/90. Nash did that for us last season playing SG as Kobe kept the PG duties, and Nash still dished almost 7 assists a game playing hobbled. KM’s 20 games means nothing in comparison.

          • Daryl Peek

            Direct quote from Dave McMenamin who interviewed D’antoni in today’s practice about Marshall…

            DM: The question remains whether Kendall Marshall, who has averaged 11.9 points and 11.5 assists in 15 games as the starting point guard, will suddenly find himself without a role.

            “I think he knows he’s going to play,” D’Antoni said. “Whether he starts or whether he doesn’t, he’ll have to [get used to the fact that] it won’t be the same. He’s not going to get 35 minutes no matter what he does. So, that’s how the NBA is and he’ll have to keep carving his niche out. He’s played well, so he’s got to continue that.”

          • Devon Murray

            Yes like I said… I want Nash to start and we will see if Nash can put up those numbers, MDA is going into the last year of his deal, so he’s going to hitch his wagon to Nash, can’t be mad at that.

          • Daryl Peek

            I don’t expect big things from Nash given he’s only played 6 games this season but we shall see…

  • Vince

    Mark my words Kendall Marshall will be a NBA Hall Of Famer one day.

    • hookedonnews

      Seriously?

      • Devon Murray

        Question? did you think that Derek Fisher would get consideration for H.O.F if you say yes, I know youre lying… lets sit back and watch it play itself out, I for one wouldn’t bet against him… but again lets watch him develop…

        • hookedonnews

          No, I don’t think Fisher is a HOF player even though he was a key piece in LA’s championship teams. Marshall is young, but his lack of any kind of medium-range game and his weird 3 pt shot don’t bode well. I hope he can improve his shooting and develop as a player, but I would say the HOF is a long-shot. And for the record, I’m not in the habit of lying here or anywhere else. If I said I thought Fisher would be considered for the HOF that wouldn’t mean I was lying. It would mean I’m uninformed or a Lakers homer.

          • Devon Murray

            No, I am not saying you said that, they are NBA journalist and GM’s had a discussion and that was one of the topics, along with David Stern’s tenure, it was brought up about Derek and some believe that though he most likely wont get in, the fact that they were talking about him and the HOF is a testament to what he’s done in the L and with the Lakers… apologies if I gave that impression that was a statement you made.

          • hookedonnews

            No, I didn’t think you were saying I said that. But you did say that if I said I thought DF would get consideration for the HOF that I would be lying. My point was that I don’t make a habit of lying about that or anything else. As I said I don’t expect him to be in the HOF. That should be reserved for the really great players. Fisher was an important part of the Lakers, but he wasn’t an outstanding individual player.

  • Vince

    Yes keep Kendall Marshall as the permanent starter.He earned it.

  • Marty Susman

    Perfect, Nash retires on a Medical, he then is hired as a Laker asst. coach with the primary duty of working full time wit kendal Marshall…. Marshall “could” be the next super point, so lets give him a shot….

    • Glmus

      KM has been great as a pg. Nash needs to retire and mentor KM. Someone other than Nash needs to teach KM how to play defense. KM should start with SB at 2. JF should be pg on the second team. Or let JM play 2 as a starter and have JF and SB play together on the second team. Let’s build for the future with Kevin Love joining us in 2015.

      • hookedonnews

        Nash can mentor KM as a player. He doesn’t want to retire. Marshall is slow. You can’t teach a player to be faster. Nash will start with Blake at SG (my guess). You don’t start a guy who was brought out of the D-League over Steve Nash. Doubt that Marshall is the starting PG of the future for this team, but anything is possible. There are a lot of young PGs out there.

        • dparker626

          Nash does nothing for our future, and that’s what this is about at this point. What, is he going to help us win 3 more games that we would with a younger prospect like KM? That actually hurts us. Look at Nash’s stats his first few years, they’re simply not as good as KM’s are in his time with the Lakers. Small sample, I know, but compelling especially when you consider the potential upside. And potential is what the Lakers need to be focusing on now. Sad to say, but, Nash is a rear-view mirror figure.

          • Daryl Peek

            Marshall may or may not have a future in the NBA but a legend like Nash is not benched for a player like him, like it or not.

          • Sam Saab

            I have a lot of respect for nash and excited to see him back on the floor, but i honestly think he wont last longer than a week until he aggrevates his back again, sad to say but he will retire before the season is over.

          • Daryl Peek

            I have no qualms about that if it happens. That’s life. The thing these guy are tripping me out on is thinking a 2nd year player who sat the pine his entire rookie season and was out of the league til we called him would start over a healthy Nash based off a great showing in 20 games played?!?

          • Chrmngblly

            Too bad. Nash is no friend of the Lakers.

          • Daryl Peek

            ?!?

          • Devon Murray

            Legends are benched all the time, in today’s NBA it is all about what have you done for me lately, right or wrong (hence people wanting Gasol gone) You can bring up Jordan, Magic all you like however like you stated yourself Magic started at SF because Nick was the younger, faster pg going forward… yes respect is always at the forefront yet winning is put in front of respect… ask Shaq being traded, Lamar being traded, Gasol constant trade rumors. Yet, let’s watch how he rest of this season plays out and next year comes and we’ll see who is on this roster and who wont, and with Dantoni in the final year of his deal will make it even more interesting…

          • Daryl Peek

            You can’t name an instance where a legend who was on the team was benched for a player of Marshall’s caliber in the history of the NBA. Magic and Jordan came out of retirement to take someone’s spot, regardless of change of position. MDA may have Nash come off the bench for a game or two but if he stays healthy he will eventually be the starter for the remainder of the season no doubt.

            This is important for more reasons than just paying respect to Nash. It’s also to show he has something in the tank for the purpose of possibly moving him in the off-season also. The stretch provision is a worse case scenario last resort option in the case Nash is truly done but not willing to let go. I highly doubt it gets that ugly but most fans are way too quick trigger happy to evoke that choice that still leaves the team paying him with X amount of dollars counting against the cap going forward…

            Getting Nash back on the court is the best case scenario for him and the Lakers.

          • Devon Murray

            Nope I can’t…. but Nash isn’t and well never ever be in the same stratosphere as Magic or Jordan…so stop using the LEGENDS of the NBA to make a point, Nash isn’t that… Nash would still be with the Suns if your point was legit, and I hope that Nash starts at some point then his play will show that Kendall should and will be the starter going forward… (potential coach Byron Scott has said he would go with Kendall going forward to see what the team has going forward the season is lost)

          • Daryl Peek

            That’s a lame come back man. In no way am I’m saying Nash is as good as Magic or MJ so save that. Nash is a legend. Nash is top ten all-time at the PG position. That alone allows a comp on topic in the context. Come on man?

            Nash chose to leave the Suns. They didn’t force him out at all. B. Scott is talking from a position of frustration, a media pundit and concern on his injury plight from the outside looking in. If he was the Lakers HC no way in hell he sits Nash, and you and I both know that.

          • Devon Murray

            Report is out saying that Nash, Farmar and Blake will be available tomorrow, so we will see what happens. So it will be interesting…

          • Chrmngblly

            You are so full of sh*t. Quit talking like you know something you don’t. You are a bonehead. Nash is just circling the drain. We are all going to see anyway in just a few days. You sound like Nash’es girlfriend.

          • Daryl Peek

            Why are you taking offense to what I’m saying and acting like a butt hurt punk over it? Get a grip please.

            BTW, check back when what I’ve said becomes fact. Or just stay mad at someone you don’t even know?!?

          • Chrmngblly

            Nash was not a Laker great, even though he must be grateful for the generous tongue-lapping you are giving his assh*le right now, Peek. The kid, Marshal, has earned a show of confidence from the coaches and fans. Plus, he needs to play to learn. Let Farmar and Nash work themselves back into game shape a little at a time and if either of them legitimately are more productive, then feed the hot hand.
            Peek, Nash is circling the drain. If he can coach, let him renegotiate his contract and coach. Otherwise, we need to dump him. Let’s trade him back to Phoenix so he can retire a Sun. If anybody ought to be showing Nash anything but the door, it is the Suns.

          • Daryl Peek

            1. You can’t renegotiate NBA contracts.

            2. Everything I’m saying about Nash all the coaches in the NBA do also.

            3. Working themselves back into game shap will be done but it will likely come at the expense of Marshall losing PT.

            4. Some people (haters) want Nash gone so bad they don’t think reasonably. He’s earned his place and will be treated as so til both parties decide on separation mutually, that’s all.

          • hookedonnews

            If he’s healthy, he’s valuable for this season and next. You’re correct that he’s not the long-term future of this team, but neither is Kobe. That doesn’t mean you toss him aside. Nash’s stats in his first few years are irrelevant because he was playing behind Kevin Johnson and Jason Kidd in Phoenix. When he went to Dallas he turned a team that hadn’t been to the playoffs in years into a contender. I don’t think you can compare Nash & Marshall because Nash is one of the best shooters ever. He’s like a coach on the floor. He’s also got a lot of intangibles that I’m not sure KM has. I don’t think we know what the future holds for Steve Nash, but I don’t believe Kendall Marshall is the future of the Lakers. Would you rather have him or Kyrie Irving? How about Rondo? I just don’t believe he’s the best young PG out there. The Lakers are focused on 2015/2016. In the meantime if Nash can stay healthy he’s better than Marshall. That’s not even arguable. If he can’t stay healthy, that’s another matter.

          • Devon Murray

            Hey hookeddonnews, hope all is well, yes I am a tarheel fan and Kendall fan, from what I am hearing I don’t think Nash future with the Lakers is looking to bright they would had waived him if not for the cap hit they would take and next season, if Nash is remotely healthy they will be looking to get rid of his expiring contract. Nash isn’t going to be the player he was a few years ago, yes he can shoot, but he is slowly get slower on the Defensive end, people here say that Kendall is slow yet he is faster than Nash do to popular belief, and Kendall is a better of ball defender than Nash, Nash has never been a good defender on ball or off, Raja Bell always guarded the pg in the west, (I had to do my research on that) I hope Nash is healthy, however what ever health he is able to obtain it wont be up to par what with you need to be productive in the NBA. And also you at some point have to let go of what Nash did with the suns, yes he did get the chance with the Lakers from day one, but the Lakers are ready to bail on Nash at the first chance they get (again whats being thrown around).
            As far as Kendall is concerned, with his favorable contract, youth ability to run a team, floor leader and passing ability, people may not like his shooting, yet he makes them, (they’re many player that has a “better looking” shot than Kendall yet they are not even in the NBA or the D league for the fact of the matter. Kendall will get better he’s 22 had he stayed all four years he would be a rookie learning, yet with the Suns you have Goran & Eric, Kendall wasn’t going to even get the opportunity to play because of the youth the Suns had and that Goran and Eric can both play pg, in Washington you have Wall and Beal, again two young guards who can play pg, and point of note Washington’s GM and Owner have came out and said had they known that Kendall was this productive he would have had a opportunity to be with them, yet that’s the business. A ball dominate guard especially pg, WILL NEVER play for the Lakers as long as Kobe is on this roster, so whether it’s Kyrie, Derek Rose, D. Lillard, Lawson, John Wall, or even Rondo who at his age now and injuries and his 13 million a year salary, that wont be happening. I don’t know why people aren’t willing to let Kendall develop into the player that he is becoming to be, you, I or anyone else have no idea if Kendall is a “superstar” pg, however the Lakers FO are extremely happy that they have Kendall in the fold and how he is developing going forward, to the questioned yes he has at least for the rest of the year, WILL he is a different story… but I will say that Blake (who wont be back next year) Nash (who will be dealt or waived by Feb 2015) and Farmar will all be hard pressed to perform as Kendall has going forward into training camp.

          • hookedonnews

            All is not well because I’m a Broncos fan. Moving on from that disaster–I don’t think anyone knows the future of Steve Nash. There’s a question whether he can actually keep this nerve issue under control. If he can’t, I suspect that he’ll eventually throw in the towel. He doesn’t want to do that because he knows his days are numbered anyway. I think you underestimate him. If you saw him play last season when he first returned from the broken leg, he looked like the Nash from Phoenix. However, due to the team dysfunction/injuries, Kobe’s need for ball domination, and the nerve issues that came from the broken leg he wasn’t able to do what everyone expected on a sustained basis. This year he just hasn’t been healthy so far. I think his defensive liabilities are also exaggerated, although no one is going to give him any awards for defense. He plays good team defense and yeah, rarely guards people like Westbrook. I heard it said by MDA and others last season that his defense was better than earlier in his career. I haven’t heard any rumors about the Lakers looking to unload him, and he’s got to prove he can stay healthy before a trade would even be possible. IF he’s able to stay healthy, I don’t see any reason to believe he can’t play at the level he did in 2012 which was good enough to earn him a spot on the All-Star team and the league leader in total assists. Even now, he’s better than KM in every aspect of the game IMO. Nash is the guy you would want on the floor at the end of the game, especially with Kobe out. Marshall just doesn’t have the experience or the shooting ability to be the player Nash is, even at 40. I like Marshall, but PGs these days are expected to be scorers as well as passers. In his prime Nash could put up 48 points when it was necessary along with being the best passer in the league. Don’t see that happening with KM. Yes, he’s a bargain. I just don’t see him as a multi-threat PG. If you could combine the shooting of Farmar and the passing of KM you would have a great PG. If he had a normal shooting motion I would be more optimistic about Marshall, but he could have a future with the Lakers. He has a better chance now of staying in the league for sure.

        • nlruizjr

          Another yahoo, living in the past !!!!!!

          • hookedonnews

            It’s got nothing to do with the past. It’s got to do with who’s the best player. Nash has had a severe injury. If he’s able to stay healthy he’s still way better than Marshall. Who’s smarter? Who has the best court vision? Who is the best shooter? Who’s the best passer? Who has the most complete game? Who do you want with the ball in his hands with the game on the line or shooting FTs at the end of the game? Marshall has been a good fill-in, and he may have a future in the league, but he’s never going to be better than Nash if he’s healthy. If he’s not healthy, he won’t be on the court.

          • http://www.haveslot.com/ richard

            hahahaha… let me ask you a question… sense when did Marshal become a starter in this league? Right, after the injuries… do you honestly believe that if we have healthy PG’s, Marshall will start or even come off the bench?

  • Rigged4fun

    Marshall should start until Blake and Farmar are in game shape. However he certainly can be interwoven as far as playing time. It allows him to get some valuable time playing without the burden of carrying the team.

  • Roy

    Kendall is a natural leader and great passer.Hell yeah start him.

  • iDontCare

    I’m sorry but Steve Blake and Jordan are better. His stats may be better but Blake and Farmar are just better. MY Opinion so don’t argue with me.

  • hookedonnews

    No, Kendall Marshall should not be the starter. A healthy Nash at PG and Blake at SG maybe. Don’t see Marshall as better than Nash, Blake, or Farmar. Of course, no one knows when any or all of these players will be back and how long they’ll stay on the court. Any of these guys could also play SG if needed. I don’t know if there’s a place for Marshall on this roster once everyone is healthy, but who knows when that’s going to happen. But no way he should be the starter when the others return.

  • Dragon7s

    I believe you have to take into account player development when deciding whether to let KM keep the starter’s position.
    Given that the season is lost and we know what we have with Blake, Farmar (and to some extent Nash if he ever gets healthy), I say let the kid stay in the starting line-up and learn his craft.

    • dparker626

      100 percent right on target.

    • Daryl Peek

      Not gonna happen. Insane to even ponder it. KM starting over Nash that is.

      • Dragon7s

        What’s insane about it?

        Why risk injury to already injury-prone players unnecessarily?

        We’re not going anywhere, esp. once Pau is traded to Phoenix.
        You can’t say that given KM’s production he’s a major downgrade from Nash, Blake OR Farmar since we don’t know post-injury what we’ll see from any of the 3 of them.

        Disclaimer: I’m not dogging on them. I’m a big fan of all 3 of those guys and would love to see them come back and make a difference but what would be the point, esp. if Pau is gone?

        • Daryl Peek

          What you and many others don’t want to seem to understand is that these guys are all competitors who’ve played this game on the highest level for a long time and will not be coddled. The season plight means nothing to them as it shouldn’t. As Kobe said “I don’t get paid to worry about that. It’s my job to get out there on the floor and play.”

          That’s all they know and that’s exactly what there gonna do. They will not accept anything less either so save the coach or FO intervention theme. No diss just how it is.

          Bottom line there is no team on this planet that would give second thought to starting KM over a healthy Nash. That’s straight buffoonery man.

          • Dragon7s

            I’m simply taking the long view based on where the team is at now and the likelihood that Nash ever gets “healthy”.
            I have grave doubts about the possibility given the amount of time he’s been sidelined to this point and the type of injury it appears to be.
            This is the type of injury that could bother him long after his playing days are over.

            Going back to the title of this article, let me back up a bit…Has KM earned the ‘permanent’ starting job? Not hardly.
            My point is simply that there’s no good reason not to let the kid play and see whether or not it’s worth it to the Lakers to pick up his option for next season.

          • Daryl Peek

            Sounds nice from a feel good story perspective but it’s not real life reality. No legitimate professional team would even consider it. This is what I’m trying to impress. It just doesn’t work like that in the real world.

            The re-injury risk is just a part of the professional athletes life. They all have their big boy pants on and understand the next injury could mean the end. That is of no consequence either. No team is gonna coddle a players like Nash or Kobe. They are gonna work with them and the doctors to get them back on the court regardless, that all man. Next season is not even factored into this, and shouldn’t be. Future considerations will be addressed at the appropriate time and right now is not that time for players trying to come back from injury.

    • hookedonnews

      I don’t think they’ve given up on the season, and there’s a pecking order in the NBA. He can learn his craft coming off the bench as well has he can starting. Watching and working with Steve Nash did wonders for Blake’s game, and I’m sure KM will learn a lot from being around him as well. They’re still trying to win games. I don’t know what their plans are for Marshall long-term. They’re looking at a hotshot PG in the draft. What happens this season with KM depends on when SN, SB, and JF return and whether they can stay healthy.

      • Dragon7s

        He’s got a team option for next year on his contract at a very reasonable price so he’s not likely going anywhere.

        I just think that given the injury history of our guards the last two seasons, we can afford to let them play limited minutes while also teaching KM the finer points of being an effective floor general in the NBA playing with the first unit.

        Any PG that the Lakers draft is going to go through the same process but that will be next season when the hunt to make the playoffs starts anew and whichever Vet PG is still on the team (Farmar?) will likely be the starter barring any other trades.

        • hookedonnews

          I agree that the minutes will be limited for all of our injured players when they come back. Before all the injuries hit, no one was playing major minutes anyway because MDA was using a 11-man rotation. I have no idea what next year’s roster will look like. There are a lot of questions right now. I don’t know how the FO views KM or who they might be looking to trade or unload. We may have a better idea by the end of the season. I just think there may be better PGs available than KM. I like his passing, but his shooting leaves a lot to be desired.

  • M20

    KM may not be the best defender but it’ll be better than Nash can do at his age. I Think we start Nash but he only plays 10 minutes or just over so he can maintain his health, have Farmar play 15-20 minutes he can take care of the ball, be aggressive at times and defend well. Then have KM have the remaining 15 minutes and look to distribute and shot the occasional 3 ball.
    Blake can move to SG with Meeks and they can share the load until Kobe returns. Kobe will not play big minutes when he comes back so for a little whole they should all be able to have some minutes even play Kobe at SF for short spurts. You would think not all players will be playing 100% healthy so that will open up more minutes according to how players are being maintained also.

  • http://www.haveslot.com/ richard

    Absolutely not! He is still raw…. he will benefit well being a backup moving forward… start ether Blake or Farmar… let go of Nash…. there is a big difference between winning a game and filling the stats… Marshall sure racks up assist… but it has’t translated well in W’s….

    • nlruizjr

      and your blaming Marshall for that, his job is to get the ball to others in position to score and he has done that, he can’t do the layup’s for them !!!!

      • http://www.haveslot.com/ richard

        hahahahaha…. I am not blaming him for it… I said, he will benefit well from being a back up… and that he racks up assist, but not translated to wins… there is something in him that is not yet competitive….

        It seems something sensitive in you I just touch, eh?

  • C*HarrisTHEboss

    No.

  • Buddy Love

    What was our record with Blake starting 10-9…. I’d go with Blake.. We can’t win with Marshall… He isn’t a good shooter… not a good defender, and is late in help(digs) on bigs

    • Dragon7s

      I forget the numbers and where I read it but it was posted earlier that none of our PG’s has a winning record when in the starting line-up.

    • http://rantsofascorpio.wordpress.com/ Evan

      Who else was playing when Steve Blake was our PG, though? This team is devastated by injuries, and we’ve got D-League guys all over the place out there.

  • OP_Albania

    who really cares, shouldn’t we be thing lottery ?!
    I must say though, been watching boston- orlando yesterday, there is no way we will end up with a worst record than those teams, i mean they were just awful !!

  • Menard A. Reyes

    yes…..

  • http://rantsofascorpio.wordpress.com/ Evan

    Whether he starts or not, I’d like to see the Lakers bring him back and try to develop him. Work on his shot a bit (he IS hitting 45% from 3pt, though), and get him a lot of work on the defensive side.

    I’d imagine it’s much tougher to teach a player how to see the court and set up his teammates than it is to teach him how to hit a shot or D up on his man. Marshall obviously has the first skill.

    I’d hate to see the Lakers drop a huge amount of money on a point guard when we MIGHT have a diamond in the rough right here.

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