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Judging by that criteria, what do the Lakers have that the Timberwolves could possibly want? If you’re to believe Kupchak, the Lakers would consider parting with their pick in the upcoming draft. The only problem is that we won’t know how valuable that pick is until the draft lottery on May 20. But if the Lakers needed to include another first-round pick, the earliest pick they could include would be in 2019. That’s because the NBA forbids teams from trading first-round picks in consecutive drafts and the Lakers have already traded away their 2015 and 2017 picks.

Technically, they Lakers aren’t even allowed trade their upcoming pick but they could work around that by making the pick on behalf of the Timberwolves and then waiting until after the draft for it to become official. However, that strategy doesn’t come without risk. Say the Timberwolves decide there are only three players in this year’s draft they would consider taking in a trade for Love. If the Lakers end up drafting sixth, and all three of those players are off the board when it’s time for them to make their selection, that possibility might no longer exist.

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**In order to avoid leaving any stones unturned, there are two other potential first round draft picks the Lakers could include in a package for Love. Both the 2015 and 2017 first-round picks that the Lakers traded to Phoenix and Orlando are top-5 protected.  Meaning, if either pick lands in the top-5, the Lakers would keep it and the picks would roll over to the next year with different conditions. So technically speaking, the Lakers could offer Minnesota either or both picks, in the event that the pick(s) land in the top-5 and they retain them. The only issue there is that there is a very slight chance that a team with Kevin Love and a healthy Kobe Bryant would wind up with a top-5 pick. While it’s definitely a possibility, it isn’t enough to persuade Minnesota to pull the trigger. Would you trade a $100 bill for $20 and two $1 lottery scratchers? That’s kind of the same thing.

hi-res-459421659-los-angeles-lakers-players-on-the-bench-celebrate-a_crop_northAs far as young players on cheap contracts, the only ones the Lakers can currently include are Robert Sacre, Ryan Kelly, Kendall Marshall, and Kent Bazemore. While I like the potential of all four of those guys, there are plenty of free agents willing to play for the NBA minimum with just as much potential. Trying to convince Minnesota that those guys make your trade offer significantly better would be like a restaurant trying to convince you to pay for ketchup.

The Lakers ability to absorb bad contracts might be their only other asset.  By renouncing the rights to all of their free agents, including Pau Gasol, Jodie Meeks, and Jordan Hill, and using the stretch provision on Steve Nash, they could have as much as $28.2 million in cap space. Looking at the Timberwolves spreadsheet, the only contract I’d guess they would love to dump is the three years, and $21.25M remaining on Kevin Martin’s deal. Considering they signed Martin to reunite him with Adelman for a third time, he is surely expendable now that Adelman is gone.

Assuming that Nikola Pekovic and Ricky Rubio are their only untouchables, all of their other contracts are for one or two more years at $5 million or less per season. While the Lakers might be willing to help relieve Minnesota’s payroll for next season by taking back the expiring contracts of J.J. Barea ($4.5M), Alexey Shved ($3.3M), or Luc Richard Mbah a Moute ($4.4M), I can’t imagine they have any interest in Martin eating up $7M of their cap space in 2015-16 or $7.4M the year after that. The same can be said for Corey Brewer’s $4.9M in 2016-17.

Chase Budinger, another player who reunited with Adelman in Minnesota, is owed $5M next season and has a $5M player option for 2015-16. While that might actually prove to be a bargain given his skillset, Budinger has missed 100 games over the last two seasons due to ankle and left knee injuries.

imagesThere is one other asset the Lakers have that might be of interest to Minnesota. Considering that Rubio is still only 23-years-old, the Timberwolves might have an interest in bringing in Gasol to aid in his development. While it’s true the Lakers could include a sign-and-traded Pau as part of a package for Love, Pau would first have to agree to it and that might require Minnesota to overpay Gasol, in either years and/or dollars, in order to keep him from signing with either a contender or a team in a warm weather city. That in itself might be enough to turn them off.

If the Lakers best package for Love centers around the sixth pick in this year’s draft, a 34-year-old Pau Gasol, and the ability to absorb Kevin Martin’s contract, there are far better options out there. For example, if it’s draft picks and young players on rookie contracts that Minnesota wants, the Lakers are the last team they should be discussing trades with. Compare how little the Lakers have to offer with what two other teams can offer them.
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Andrew Ungvari is a Los Angeles native and a Lakers season ticket holder since 1989. Follow him on twitter @DrewUnga.

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  • J Taylor

    Weird Article… It rehashes and summarizes the Love issue but puts the author’s obvious bias into it.

    And somehow, it really fails to address the fact that the main prize is that he’ll be a free agent and many believe that he’s stated that he wants to play in LA. All of the noise about trades and the rest are the team’s way of exploring how to get him to LA without letting him be a free agent and be tempted by New York, Chicago, and the rest of the league.

    Build a solid team, with a great coach, and the players will come to LA.

    • AndrewUngvari

      What bias are you referring to? I love the Lakers. I’m also one of Kevin Love’s biggest fans. My premise is that 1) the Lakers can’t trade for him because they have nothing Minnesota wants and other teams can beat their offer with very little effort and 2) Kevin Love wants to compete for a championship so the Lakers have one year to put together a roster that Love feels he can make a contender by joining it as a free agent.

      I don’t know what’s so weird about that.

      • Lakers555

        Can u not respond to the comments on your own article. lol professional much…

        • AndrewUngvari

          I don’t understand. Are you asking me if I’m allowed to or are you telling me that I shouldn’t? What exactly is unprofessional about it? Many writers, from websites about all different kinds of things respond to their commenters. Would you prefer I microwave some popcorn and just read the comments and pretend I don’t see them?

          I’m all about promoting discussion. Engaging with readers and responding to them is a great way to get people to become loyal readers. He also mentioned an ‘obvious bias’ of mine. I’d love to know what he’s referring to. We should all try to be better at what we do.

        • erikkinsley

          When questions are asked, why is that not professional? Get out much?

      • erikkinsley

        What’s weird is your comment about not competing for a Championship with “JUST” Kevin Love. Kobe will be back and EVERYBODY knows (except maybe you) the Lakers are going to sign a relatively big name free agent this off season. Throw Kevin Love into that mix, and you have a contender…especially after watching how bad the teams are in this years’ playoffs. If this team can focus on DEFENSE, they will be back to winning regularly.

        • AndrewUngvari

          I wrote that there was nothing about the Lakers “current” roster that should have anyone believing they’re just a Kevin Love away from competing for a championship. Their current roster doesn’t yet have the big name free agent you seem to think is so obviously coming. When it does, then I’ll revisit it.

          I will never question Kobe’s commitment or desire to return to greatness. However, I think it’s more than fair to fear his durability at this point. If Love becomes a free agent next summer and the Lakers are coming off a season in which they miss the playoffs or Kobe misses 20+ games due to injury, why would he choose to sign a long-term contract with the Lakers and their 37-year-old shooting guard taking up $25 million in cap space?

          That last thing Love wants is uncertainty. He’ll want a team that’s young and on the way up, preferably with another young all-star that he can play with long after Kobe is gone.

          I don’t know which relatively big name free agent you’re thinking of, but the least of realistic possibilities isn’t a very long one. Their best chance might be if they strike gold with their lottery pick. That would not only provide Love with a post-Kobe running mate but also one that allow the team a few years to spend money on free agents until he’s eligible for his first big contract.

        • kookiebuger

          Kobe will be 36 years old coming off of a major injury missing basically a 1 1/2 of basketball. It’s unlikely Kobe will be the same but lets say the Lakers trade their pick for Love and sign Melo in the offseason, they will be okay for these next 3-4 years but then Love can leave and Melo will be 34. Just be patient and let the Lakers rebuild.

  • heisenburg

    I don’t think Minny trades him, at least not until next Feb if they’re struggling. Best hope for them is bringing in a good coach, get everyone healthy, and make a Portland sized ‘leap’ next season. It’s not out of the question for this team to win 50 games. Love is getting better, Gieng showed tons of promise, they’ll have their 2014 pick to plug in.

    • AndrewUngvari

      Waiting until the deadline would greatly decrease the trade possibilities. I just don’t know which current playoff team they can replace next season with nothing to work with but the mid-level exception and the 13th pick in the draft. Winning 50 games would help but I’m not sure it’s enough to keep him from leaving if they still miss the playoffs or get bounced in the first round.

      • heisenburg

        One strange thing with this team is that for the past 2 seasons, the computers have predicted them as a 50+ win playoff team.

        • AndrewUngvari

          I don’t which computer had that. Maybe it’s because they expected continuous improvements from Love, Rubio, and Pekovic, and they liked the additions of Martin and Brewer. I know Vegas had them winning 41 games this season.

          • heisenburg

            Do you think they’ll end up trading him on draft day then?

          • AndrewUngvari

            No, but I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s traded between the draft and training camp.

          • heisenburg

            Boston is the wild card I think. I can’t see them giving up their #1 pick if they get Wiggins or Parker, but if they land at 4/5/6 maybe they would.

  • Daryl Peek

    Watched the KD MVP speech. That young man is not leaving OKC. He’s built different. The big market fame ring chase is not his thing.

    • heisenburg

      He’ll do whats best for his career, whether that means staying or leaving.

      • ra

        He’ll do what’s best for his ‘family’, whether that means staying or leaving.

        • comrade24

          true. Durant’s a mama’s boy, and NOT the typical NBA superstar.

          • KOBE IS WASHED UP

            No. He’s a team player unlike Kobe.

    • comrade24

      Been saying this for a LONG time and everyone has always dismissed and just said “it’s inevitable” that Durant will leave OKC for a big market. Yeah, obviously they know NOTHING about the man Kevin Durant is.

    • Kb24

      Lol he idolizes kobe and dirk. From kobe-love era to kevins era(KD AND LOVE)

  • roseducanna

    LAKERS can’t sign and trade GASOL, because GASOL don’t want to go to Minnesota.

    • AndrewUngvari

      As I wrote, the only way Gasol would consider going to Minnesota would be if the Timberwolves were willing to overpay for him. I don’t think he will get more than $10 million on the open market. If Minnesota offered him one-year/$15 million, he might consider it.

      • comrade24

        The only scenario i could possibly see us getting Kevin Love this coming season would be a three way trade between the Lakers, Grizzlies, and Wolves. It would require the Lakes to resign Gasol, send him to Memphis, Memphis sends Randolph to Minny, and Minny sends Love to L.A., with likely some picks or trade exceptions mixed in there somewhere, but i doubt that will happen.

        • AndrewUngvari

          There’s zero chance of that happening. If Minnesota was willing to trade Z-Bo, why wouldn’t they try to get Love instead of Pau? Second, Z-Bo can opt out and become a free agent so both he and Pau would have to agree to sign-and-trades. Third, if the Lakers are getting the best player in the trade, they’d have to be the one to include picks and they don’t have any.

          Also, trade exceptions come from the difference in salary when teams send out more salary in a trade than they take back. When the Lakers traded Lamar Odom to Dallas, they got back a salary exception for the full amount of Odom’s contract because they didn’t receive any players back in the trade; just a draft pick. Had they received a player from Dallas making $3 million then the trade exception would have been for the amount of Odom’s contract minus $3 million

          A year later they used the exception to acquire Steve Nash from the Suns in a sign-and-trade. If a team has more than one exception, they can’t be combined. Nor can teams pair players with exceptions when making a trade. There are ways to get around it. Teams can split a trade up into multiple transactions so that the exception can be used. However, it can only be used if the salary of one of the player’s coming back can fit into it.

          Lastly, trade exceptions expire after one year. Most of the time, teams let them expire.

  • Mitch

    Dude Kevin Love said that shit a long ass time ago back when that fuck head Mike D’Antoni Pringles was coaching this team.Things have changed in a big way now and the Lakers FO is looking to make a huge splash.Lets just be real about it though a helluva a lot of star players want to play in L.A. so make out you’re own assessment of what you think but i hope you respect the thoughts of others and as long as you keep an open mind we will all get along.

    If not i will be ready to tell you my piece of mind you might hate how things are said.I don’t give a crap about dumb people and their stupid thoughts and idiotic outlooks on the NBA.Stupid fools are always saying the Lakers can’t get anyone worthy of conversation i strongly disagree and i am on cloud 9 being a Lakers fan while you have feelings and i don’t give a shit about anyone’s feelings.Fuck feelings.

    We the Lakers are getting Kevin Love and LeBron James and in 2016 we the Lakers are getting Kevin Durant.Yes once Kobe retires that will be in 2016 and we are getting Kevin Durant to replace him with the salary cap space we will have i guarantee it.I told you Mike D’Antoni would be gone and you all said i was a liar well now i say this with 100% assurance and confidence that Kevin Love and LeBron James will both be Lakers this summer.See i know my stuff we are the Lakers this is the Lakers way.#LakersNation Rise Up.

    • comrade24

      i think you should up your medication.

  • Mitch

    Yes the Lakers are getting Kevin Love!

  • LakersHeatBeef

    We should keep our lottery pick and wait for Kevin Love in 2015 via free agency and boom he is ours possibly if not we can try to get Aldridge in 2015 free agency.We need to keep the draft pick and draft either Marcus Smart or Dante Exum at #6 if we move up then at #1 Wiggins,#2 Jabari Parker yes we gotta keep the lottery pick.Go Lake Show!Don’t trade the lottery pick NO NO NO!

    • KingEmperor

      yeah correct men keep the draft pick and sign love in 2015..

  • LakersHeatBeef

    Kevin Love is not important to anyone as he never made the playoffs.Good player though and a All Star but we can wait on him and if decides to go elsewhere or stay in Minnesota so be it oh well no problem.

  • vdogg

    DO NOT trade this year’s pick, mitch. it would be a huge mistake. the lakers won’t be contending for a title next year anyway. why not keep the pick and groom him for a year before making a big splash in FA the following summer?

  • heisenburg

    I could be wrong but have the Lakers not had a first round pick who ended up suiting up for them since 2007? How is that even possible?

  • Freddy Gutierrez

    Lakers are in rebuild mode. I don’t see any more coming to lakers while Kobe is around who wants to play with Kobe?? Look at games he ask for ball 98% of the time why would he go there or anyone?

    • Javier

      I disagree.Players want to be paid and the Lakers have a lot of cap space.Also the Lakers are a legendary franchise known for winning championships that is a big reason players will play with the man people hate on Kobe Bryant.Shit come on on now lets be honest Kobe is a great player when healthy and anyone would love winning with Kobe.Seriously it’s not Kobe that people hate playing it’s just that the Lakers never had cap space until now.Just wait and see players will sign up and great players will sign IMO.It’s the Lakers not the Bobcats.

    • Javier

      Players are not dumb.$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ Money talks.

    • TheTruthKills

      I agree. No one wants to play with Kobe, but most of our fanbase won’t accept that fact.

      • Dragon7s

        You have your own fan base?

        Seriously, there are a lot of players (most?) that want to play with Kobe.
        For you to base your decision on cherry-picked comments of a few ill-informed “pundits” is sad.

        For every quote you show me from a player saying they wouldn’t or couldn’t play with Kobe, I’m sure I could find 3 to 5 for each one saying just the opposite.

        • TheTruthKills

          I’ll just let what happens this summer do the taking. Nothing more need be said.

          • Fred Savage

            well no, because the lakers aren’t going to waste all their cap space this summer on middling talent. Only max they will offer is to lebron, and he’s not coming! Players would love to play with kobe, but we’re not going to over pay this year when its 2015/2016 that this team is looking forward to

          • TheTruthKills

            This summer, next summer, or whenever you like. The results will remain the same.

    • EmperorKing

      FUCK U!!

    • KB24

      Exum,embiid,randle,lilliard,love,swagP and all of our current players especially pau,deng,ariza,paul george etc.. Thats less than 50% of the players who wants to play for kobe.

  • Skyler

    Lakers are getting Chris Bosh.I heard rumblings PER Sam Amico it’s truly remarkable everyone forgot about Chris Bosh.Give Bosh his own team and he averages 23 Points and 9 Rebounds and he is a great defensive player.

    PG Nash,Kendall,Farmar,
    SG Kobe,Bazemore
    SF Andrew Wiggins,Xavier Henry
    PF Ed Davis,Kelly
    C Chris Bosh,Kaman,Sacre

    • AndrewUngvari

      I don’t believe anything Amico says because he’s wrong 98% of the time. However, I do think that if Miami wastes time and strings Bosh along, he’d at least be willing to listen to other teams (if he opts out). I spoke to someone who is very plugged in with Heat who told me that Bosh is extremely happy in Miami. If he leaves, it probably won’t be by choice.

      • heisenburg

        Yeah it makes no sense for Bosh to leave, don’t even think it makes sense to opt out. He’s playing in a bad conference and gets 10 wide open jumpers a game because of Lebron. And gets to live in Miami.

    • marlou anthony lorica

      Why not to pick Noah Vonleh,hes a version of Bosh and Love,offense and defense,better low post player with long wing spand,picking up Vonleh plus acquiring deng and backup pointguard will make the roster compitetive,1st 5 will be nash,kobe,deng,vonleh and gasol,2nd unit will be Bledsoe,young,johnson,kelly and hill,reserve are bazemore,farmar,meeks,sacre and kaman

  • George

    LeBron James is not scared to leave the Heat and come to the Lakers to prove himself on the West Coast.LeBron James is a rebel and he will want to prove he is his own man and he will make a rebel move and leave the Heat high and dry.

    • AndrewUngvari

      LeBron isn’t leaving Miami for THIS Lakers team. Not this year. Sorry Skyler.

    • JonathanGriswold

      LA doesn’t want LeBron. True story.

      • heisenburg

        Why is that?

        • Fred Savage

          because LA has enough b*tches already

        • Fred Savage

          and you spelled heisenberg wrong.

    • TheTruthKills

      LeBron won’t leave a well run franchise for a poorly run one. Jim Buss has a lot to prove if he wants to be able to land a superstar of LeBron’s caliber.

  • George

    Too many Love articles.

    • AndrewUngvari

      This is the Love article to end all Love articles.

  • KingEmperor

    its ok to have kevin love in the team but dont ever trade the pick we need to draft point guard..

  • Joshua Duenas

    This may seem a little bit off topic, but kind of related because of FA, if Nash gets a change of heart and retires would the lakers use the stretch provision or let the 9mil sit there and expire?

    • Fred Savage

      if he retires, they don’t pay him.

  • KOBE IS WASHED UP

    These rumors are funny. Nobody wants to go to lakers! No foundation! They’ll just be throwing years away. Love actually put that as nicely as possible too. Waste of money on Kobe. His ego is costing him for his 6th championship because he feels that he deserves every penny. As far as you laker fans getting angry at this comment get over it. You’re just in denial and living in the past glory days. Also I’ll stop you first if you’ll say I don’t know basketball? Probably been watching longer than you. Lol

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