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Lakers Fans, Can’t We All Just Get Along?

I did something over the weekend that I’m not proud of. I allowed a few idiots to get under my skin on Twitter. They decided to take our conversation to the gutter and instead of either ignoring them or trying to keep things civil, I allowed myself to stoop to their level.

It all started when I wrote my open letter to Kobe Bryant last week. The premise of the letter was that I don’t feel there’s anyone left in the Lakers organization that is willing to be honest with Kobe and call him out when he’s playing selfish. So I took it upon myself to let it be known that the only thing stopping this team from tying the Boston Celtics with 17 championships is “Bad Kobe.” The one who goes four or five straight possessions chucking up horrible shots and then complains to the refs about nonexistent fouls when the man he should be guarding is making an uncontested lay-up while Kobe is still arguing with the officials.

To nobody’s surprise, the floodgates opened and I came face to face with the extreme wing of the Kobe Worshipers of the World. Some of them were willing to engage in a serious discussion where I was able to more thoroughly make my case and we could come to some mutual understanding. Others weren’t so civil. They let the smoke and steam coming out of their eyes, ears, and nose impair their vision and misinterpret what I wrote. Look folks. I’m willing to spend all the time I need to defend what I said. All I ask is you please don’t make me have to waste time arguing the things many of you just like to pretend I said.

I’m not an idiot because I think Kobe missing 200 of 287 three-point attempts last season is embarrassing. I’m not a nerd because I bring up that Kobe needed 23 shots to scored 29 points on 43 percent shooting. I’m not a moron because I didn’t mention that he played last season with a torn ligament in his wrist. To me that’s a much better reason for him not to have taken so many bad shots than it is a justification from a few of you as to why he missed so many.

But more than anything, I’m not a Kobe hater just because I’m willing to find fault in his game and admit it publicly. If a Kobe turnover cost the Lakers a playoff game, the way it did against OKC last season, I’m going to call him out for it. Nor am I going to pretend, that outside of maybe two halves, he played well for Team USA when he had the second-worst shooting percentage, led the team in fouls, and was the only player who averaged more than seven minutes per game to have more turnovers than assists.

But let’s not let facts get in the way. Let’s just keep pretending he’s the player he was when he was 27.

The good news is that the majority of the feedback I got between the comments section and Twitter was positive. But then there were people like the ones who started out the conversation by calling me an idiot and other not-so-nice names who I made the mistake of engaging with. The ones who thought it was cool to search the Internet for four-year old pictures of my wife and I and post them on Twitter.

Suddenly it went from funny to obscene.

My favorite part was when they all decided to talk about how immature I was and how I couldn’t handle constructive criticism as if calling me profane names on Twitter can be considered constructive criticism.

I’m not the only one it seems that has to deal with all this. Lakers legend and Hall of Famer James Worthy joined Twitter this past week and I won’t be surprised if he decides to close his account any minute now because the same people who consider themselves Lakers fans are mad that ‘Big Game’ James called Miami the team to beat.

Are there really people who call themselves Lakers fans using social media to attack James Worthy, the MVP of the 1988 NBA Finals, because he’s giving his honest opinion?

I will never back down from giving my honest opinion on the Lakers. Just because I’m not one of you who thinks that Kobe is better than Michael Jordan or is still the best player in the NBA doesn’t mean I’m a hater. I saw Michael Jordan play. Kobe can win 10 championships and he still won’t be better than Michael Jordan. That ship has sailed folks. It sailed a long time ago. This isn’t me trolling Kobe worshipers either. This is just me stating a fact.

Jerry West said it best, “Michael Jordan was the league’s best offensive and defensive player for 10 straight years.” Despite the coaches continuing to name Kobe to All-Defensive teams, Kobe hasn’t been an elite defender for at least five years.

I’ve been a Lakers season ticket holder since 1989. From Section 36 at The Forum to Section 332 at Staples Center. I was getting pulled out of school by my dad to go championship parades back in ’82, ’85, ’87 and ’88. I was in the building when the Lakers shocked Portland in 1991 and when they came back to beat them in 2000. I was there when Robert Horry hit the three-pointer that saved the series with Sacramento in 2002, when Kobe scored 81 against the Raptors, and when the Lakers beat the Celtics in Game 7 in 2010.

Feel free to question my opinion, just don’t question my credentials. I was raised on the brilliance of Magic Johnson and the real spit of Chick Hearn. So forgive me if watching Kobe ignore his teammates for long stretches of games makes me want to throw up.

I’ve lived and died with this team since before many of your parents were in junior high. I joked on Twitter that I was being treated like I broke the first rule of Fight Club, but in this case it was the Let’s Pretend Kobe Is Still The Best Player In The Game Club. Kobe currently has the greatest legacy of any player still active, but if you think he’s still better than LeBron James or Kevin Durant you should probably keep that opinion to yourself. Some of us Lakers fans don’t need you continuing to ruin our reputations. Rings are great. But if rings determine a players greatness then I guess Robert Horry is better than both Larry Bird and Magic Johnson.

I can critique Kobe without discrediting his past accomplishments. There’s plenty of ink on the Internet of me defending the role Kobe played on those first three championship teams. Just search for it. But I’ll be damned if I have to sit silent while Kobe resorts to hero ball while he’s got three Hall of Fame teammates alongside him. Nor will I keep my mouth shut if the Lakers have a chance to pass the Celtics while Dr. Buss is still alive and it’s Kobe who prevents it from happening.

It’s no secret that Kobe can be selfish. It’s no secret that he doesn’t have a lot of friends. Take a second and go to Google and enter “Derek Fisher Never” and tell me what the first auto suggestion is. Did you see it? So if I call Kobe selfish it’s meant in the sincerest way imaginable. He might be an a-hole but he’s our a-hole, and we love him no matter what. Being an a-hole is what made Kobe one of the greatest to ever lace them up.

I had the honor of being named to Yahoo!’s list of must follows on Twitter. Here’s what they wrote about me in their description:

Some Twitter feeds just stick out, and Drew’s is amongst that lot. He boasts a dry sense of humor, he’s quick with a quip on a re-tweet and his non-hoops related references are always appreciated. A Lakers fan in full, but a self-aware one. Or, as one member of BDL’s staff put it, “not a pain in the ass jerk like most of them.”

I couldn’t have been more proud of that description. I’m still mad for allowing myself to get upset and stoop down to the level of those “pain in the ass jerks” I try so hard to distance myself from on Twitter. I never wanted to be the guy who had to block people on but now I don’t have a choice.

I’m still here.

This season could be one of the most special in any of our lifetimes. Steve Nash is a Laker and Dwight Howard is a Laker. Still gives me chills. I try not to let myself even fantasize about what it would be like to see the look on Dr. Buss’ face if he manages to tie the Celtics when you consider they trailed Boston 13-6 in titles when he bought the Lakers. Think about that. So if I want Kobe to realize how much talent he is surrounded with because oftentimes he forgets, that doesn’t mean I’m a hater. It just means I want to see history made and I don’t want him standing in the way of it.

I hope that all makes sense.

Now I’m fully prepared for what’s about to show up in the comments section below. I’m determined to bite my lip and just sit idly by while the dimwitted who call themselves Lakers fans and question my fandom make fools of themselves behind fake aliases. If you don’t like my writing and you think I’m an idiot or if you can’t handle a fellow fan being critical of your favorite team, this might not be the place for you to shop.

It’s really just that simple.

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About The Author

Andrew Ungvari is a Los Angeles native and a Lakers season ticket holder since 1989. Follow him on twitter @DrewUnga.

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  • Lakerfreak

    You’re an idiot! No just kidding. I really think this will be the best season for Kobe since 2010 when he was still considered the alpha dog of the nba with only James challenging that. I think this might actually be the best year of Kobe’s career. He finally gets to play with a true point guard which has happened…..never! Kobe has expressed how excited and glad he is that the ball won’t be in his hands and that he won’t have the responsibility of finding baskets for himself and his team mates. And we should all be able to acknowledge that has been Kobe’s problem. And Kobe wasn’t built and designed for that. Kobe lives up to his position. We call them shooting guards for a reason. His job should be to shoot and to score. And we can’t knock him for that. The problem is that he has the ball in his hands too much. Enter a true point man, one of the few passing guards left in the league today. It’s going to be amazing.

    So I acknowledge that Kobe sometimes hurts the lakers with his decision making. But I believe those are decisions he shouldn’t have to make. And for the first time he won’t have to. For the first Time he will be the recipient of good passes. For the first time Kobe could be getting wide open looks regularly instead of with multiple defenders or 2 seconds on the clock. Everything has changed.

    And I want to add last year should be ignored in criticing Kobe’s career. Many of the things you said are true of years prior as well. But last year there was no offensive system me he was playing a ridiculous amount of minutes with no back up SG.

  • Mike Stokes

    All of this for a few more followers? Really?
    Did LakersNation really need this wall of text? For what?

    Dude, grow up!

    I mean, is this the kind of articles I can expect from LakersNation?
    Another one like this, and you’ll lose a reader. For good!

    • Lakerfan4life

      I’m right with you. @mike

  • Louiejacobis

    if you think kobe didn’t help the lakers win the 3 peat championships remember shaq fouled out of the indiana game and kobe closed the game and really go back to the 3 peat and watch how he played. jordan was the best then in 96 we traded for better its been said over and over again was a better jump shooter and had more moves jordan was faster played in a slower less athletic era do you see guys like lebron blocking you off the glass like the way you do now or 6,8 barkleys killing players in the post it doesnt work like that no more. a true lakers fan would never hate on kobe thick and thin buddy bet u was jerking off when he scored 81 against the raptors of when he beat the mavericks in 3 quarters or when he dismantled the sun and patted the coach in the ass for good measure i could go on but this is dumb 2 twice i have been on this site and been disappointed first time was when you first wrote your article second time was now. SHUT UP!!! KOBE BRYANT GREATEST LAKER EVER!!!

  • Bwangleon

    Unfortunately, I have to agree with most of this. The numbers don’t lie. I thought I was the only one who saw the turnover that cost us that OKC playoff game, because no one ever seemed to mention it. I was so pissed my gf couldn’t believe it. But if Pau makes a turnover at the end of one of those games…well, we all know what happens there. I’m not a Kobe hater…quite the contrary. I just hope that he truly adjusts to having these gifts Mitch and the front office have given him this season. He can still be great if he just swallows a tiny bit of pride.

    • http://profiles.google.com/shanesfm Shane Bruhanski

       I know.  Kobe actually messed up 2 games against OKC.  But it’s easy to blame the leader.  There were other issues that transgressed in that series that put us in that situation in the first place.  But say la vie.

  • Bwangleon

    Unfortunately, I have to agree with most of this. The numbers don’t lie. I thought I was the only one who saw the turnover that cost us that OKC playoff game, because no one ever seemed to mention it. I was so pissed my gf couldn’t believe it. But if Pau makes a turnover at the end of one of those games…well, we all know what happens there. I’m not a Kobe hater…quite the contrary. I just hope that he truly adjusts to having these gifts Mitch and the front office have given him this season. He can still be great if he just swallows a tiny bit of pride.

  • Scott

    Kobe has had to be selfesh at times, alot of times.  He was the only person makeing any shots.  When the team helped Kobe passed alot last season. This season Kobe will shoot close to 60%.  They can’t double/triple team every player so Kobe won’t have to shoot 2/3 players everytime he shoots.  Kobe can hit open shots with his eyes closed and if he’s hot let him take all the shots he wants. He wii also have more assist than ever.

  • http://www.facebook.com/elijah.obasanya.3 Elijah Obasanya

    Why in the world would you compound a BAD article with ANOTHER ONE stating more of the same??? You seriously need to stop being so emotional, and Lakersnation seriously needs to consider the type of quality they hire with their staff because this is just HORRIBLE journalism. This is supposed to be a PROFFESSIONAL website, not a blog!

        The objective seemed clear, and it was ok in stretches, but most Lakers fans most likely got on you for your ridiculous statements.

    Like this one: “But there’s a definite concern that this team might have more wins without you than with you.”

    And this one: “ I don’t think your presence will affect the team’s overall record by any more wins than if you were replaced by someone like an O.J. Mayo or even Kevin Martin.”

    And the most disrespecting one of them all, this one: “You can call it tough love. You can call it constructive criticism. I don’t really care what you call it.”
        You’re talking to one of the best players in the history of the game this way??? And you dont expect his fans to get angry?

    Instead of you to have learned your lesson. You wrote this article to troll: ” Kobe can win 10 championships and he still won’t be better than Michael Jordan. That ship has sailed folks. It sailed a long time ago.”

    and troll: “So forgive me if watching Kobe ignore his teammates for long stretches of games makes me want to throw up.”

    and TROLL: “Rings are great. But if rings determine a players greatness then I guess Robert Horry is better than both Larry Bird and Magic Johnson.”

    You can’t “bite your lip” now, you should’ve did that after the criticism from the FIRST ARTICLE!! Clearly you just wanted the last laugh, which demonstrates your level of maturity.

    I’m not angry at you, because clearly your true views are as clear as day, regardless of whether or not angry lakers fans pushed you to the extreme. I’m more dissapointed with Lakersnation. That they allowed you to compound such a bad article, with an EVEN WORSE one!!! I’ve been coming to this site for years now, but i’m really starting to think that it may be time for me to move on. And I think that there are thousands of people that may agree…

    • Union2222

      lol at this dude elija calling someone else emotional. you wrote a book in teh comments section and used all caps. kobe don’t give a fuck about you.

      bwahahahaha

      • http://www.facebook.com/elijah.obasanya.3 Elijah Obasanya

         I guess if my response was a “book”, then his two articles must be the whole damn harry potter series lol. I admit I overreacted. But i’m not a professional journalist. And it still isn’t nearly as bad as the way he responded to the criticism. He should’ve just ignored everyone. It truly does come off as very unprofessional. I know he probably took ALOT of backlash that may have aggravated him. But still, you have to always display professionalism even in the most intense situations.

        • Union2222

          “But i’m not a professional journalist.” I know bro. I read ur comments. lol.

        • demonsnakeyes

          Where else can the writer explain his frustration with fans that responds/comments about his article? Sometimes we fans are getting out of hand and very irresponsible with the way we respond to the writer or fellow twitter, etc. The need for voicing out and getting the attention of unruly and uneducated people here not just for lakersnation but for other social sites needs to address this issue. Besides, what he just posted IS on topic. We can never agree to all opinions no matter what we say but there are a lot of  civil ways in sharing an opinion about a topic. This way we can avoid profanity and showing disrespect to all. This is suppose to be a given but admit it, we can’t control ourselves because the freedom we have. 

    • http://profiles.google.com/shanesfm Shane Bruhanski

       Good Jobe Elijah.  When you come to a site like Lakers Nation you want to hear open criticism, but the way he did it was more like he was bashing our Star/Franchise player.  I’m more of a Magic Johnson fan and he was the one who elevated me into Lakers Nation, but I find his rhetoric very distasteful, disingenuous and like Stephen A. Smith says: “So Disrespectful”  LOL

  • http://www.facebook.com/elijah.obasanya.3 Elijah Obasanya

    Let the search for a new home begin…

  • Khalil

    Lakersnation better get rid of this retard before they lose a whole lot of their usual website users/visitors. 

  • magic

    kobe has to take more shots because he has to. . the reason his percentage was down because his teammates make him shoot the ball when shot clock is running out. . kobe is still a top 5 player in the league. . you dont need to tell him on what to do, he’s smarter than you, he knows what it takes to become a champion. .

  • http://twitter.com/IdraqAhmed Idraq Ahmed

    I think last year was a different scenario for Kobe. A scenario in which an older Kobe had to revert back to the 05-06 and 06-07 days primarily because of the lack of talent around him. However, being much older now and less athletic as those days, he was not able to sustain the great stretch he had in the beginning.

    It’s true that there were some bad shots put up. However, they were primarily due to his teammates’ inability to score (apart from Bynum and Pau at times) and Kobe having to take too many bail out shots. Those bad shots meant worse shooting percentage. It is what it is.

    This year will be different. I believe he will continue shooting and being so called “selfish” but will get much better shots. I don’t care so much about the number of shots as much as I do about the type of shots he’s taking. The best thing for Kobe this off-season was the acquisition of Nash. A pass-first point guard with a deadly outside shot. At this point in his career, Kobe needs a guy like Nash to do the facilitating and ball handling, while he focuses on scoring and playing defense. That’s what i expect from him this year; more efficient scoring and better defense. I believe he’ll deliver. 

  • http://profiles.google.com/shanesfm Shane Bruhanski

    I agree.  This is clearly unprofessional 101.   I can’t be apart of a website to a Team a love where the journalist feels threatened to the point where he has to react in an ill advised manner and then somehow make another article to feel his oats.  Sad sad sad.

  • Shujaat_8581

    you might be a fan since i was born but you dont know fuckk all about basketball, i dont blame kobe for taking that many shots because i know and he knows himself he can make those shots even on good defense and hes been doing that since kobe in his prime, i’ve seen kobe pass the ball down low to the overated non consistent BIGs and there good at times and not so good at times and if im kobe and im passing the ball to you and your making shots consistently im gonna keep feeding you the balll if cant score and your getting doubled team and u cant handle the pressure and ur getting turn overs  then ima doo what ever tha fuc its gona take to win. kobes been doing that since kobe we know and thats what makes him greatt because theres NO other player besides MJ who had that fearsee and the willl and wantt too winnn soo badd in the game of basketball!

  • BLITZNBLUNTZ

    IF HE IS A SELFISH PLAYER, WHO ELSEE DO YOU SUGGEST HE PASSES THE BALLL TO THAT CAN MAKE PLAYS ON A CONSISTENT BASISS ???PUSSY PAU??? BYNUM??? BYNUMS HAS MIND OF A LIL KID STILL HES GOTT ALOTTT LEARN ON WHAT IT REALLYYY TAKES TO WIN A BASKETBALL GAME BECAUSE HE MIGHT GOOD FOR A GAME OR 2 BUTT TRUST ME WHEN U NEED HIM THE MOSTT HES A NO SHOW, LOLL  ID RATHER THE BALL IN MWP’S HANDS IF ANYTHING

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