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Kobe’s Shooting Disengages Teammates; Results In Uninspired Play

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Lakers vs. Mavericks – 7.9 FGA per player (L)

Lakers vs. Trail Blazers – 5.2 FGA per player (L)
Lakers vs. Clippers – 5.6 FGA per player (L)
Lakers vs. Pistons – 8.3 FGA per player (W)
Lakers vs. Jazz – 7.1 FGA per player (L)
Lakers vs. Warriors – 8.0 FGA per player (W)
Lakers vs. Kings – 8.25 FGA per player (W)
Lakers vs. Spurs – 6.9 FGA per player (L)
Lakers vs. Suns – 8.5 FGA per player (W)
Lakers vs. Rockets – 8.4 FGA per player (W)
Lakers vs. Nets – 7.25 FGA per player (W)*
Lakers vs. Kings – 5.6 FGA per player (L)
Lakers vs. Grizzlies – 7.3 FGA per player (L)
Lakers vs. Mavericks – 8.8 FGA per player (W)
Lakers vs. Pacers – 6.0 FGA per player (L)
Lakers vs. Nuggets – 10.2 FGA per player (W)
Lakers vs. Magic – 7.3 FGA per player (L)
Lakers vs. Rockets – 6.5 FGA per player (L)
Lakers vs. Hornets – 7.0 FGA per player (W)*
Lakers vs. Thunder – 7.5 FGA per player (L)
Lakers vs. Jazz – 7.6 FGA per player (L)
Lakers vs. Cavs – 5.8 FGA per player (L)

The asterisk denotes the instances where my theory is incorrect. In case you don’t feel like reading that entire list again, and I certainly wouldn’t blame you, there were two instances where the team’s supporting cast had an average of less than eight shot attempts per player and they still won the game. You’ll notice there isn’t a single instance of the team averaging over 8.0 FGA from non-Kobe players and still losing. The Lakers are 7-0 in games in which Kobe’s teammates have an average of eight shot attempts apiece.

And it’s not just their opponents, either. It would be easy to laugh off the numbers in those games in which Los Angeles won if they were all against lousy teams. But three of the seven teams the Lakers beat in those 8.0 FGA per non-Kobe player games beat the Lakers at other points during the season. And, in each loss, they managed to limit Los Angeles’ supporting staff to less than 8.0 FGA per man.

In case the long list isn’t your style, here’s a graph that showcases the same thing.

It’s not coincidence, folks.

So while you can dismiss Kobe’s 30-point performances and the poor record the team has during those games as nothing more than a meaningless statistic, when you dive deeper into what’s causing those statistics in the first place you begin to realize that it’s not so meaningless. In fact, it’s not meaningless at all.

When Kobe takes the time to assert himself as the team leader and get the rest of the players involved on the offensive end, every single aspect of the team’s success increases.

Remember when I said the Lakers’ role players perform better on the defensive end when they’re more involved on the offensive end? I wasn’t just making things up. In the seven games where they managed to have an average of 8.0 FGA or greater for the supporting cast they held their opponents to an average of 90.3 PPG. That’s nearly nine points fewer than their usual points allowed (98.8), and a very far cry from the 102.7 PPG they allow in games where the supporting staff averages less than 8.0 FGA.

Still don’t think involvement on the offensive end translates to more energy on defense?

Ultimately, like I stated before, it’s up to Kobe to know his personnel. He has to understand what works for his teammates and what doesn’t. Some players are able to still play at the highest energy level without a lot of shot attempts (Jordan Hill), while others need to be more involved on offense to get their blood flowing and competitive spirit up on the defensive side of the ball (Pau Gasol). Neither of these ways are right or wrong, and you can argue that one is better than the other, but it comes down to Kobe.

The simple fact is that when there aren’t enough shots being distributed it’s because he’s taking them himself. It’s time for him to realize that this method isn’t working with this particular team, and that it’s time to focus on what works in reality rather than simply what works best in the mind of the guy taking all the shots.


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Daniel is the former Editor-in-Chief of LakersNation. He has also written for SLAM, ESPN and other various publications. Follow Daniel on Twitter @danielbuergeLA

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  • http://twitter.com/WaynesRCworld Fastwayne

    this is such a complicated way to say the Lakers suck.

    • Dr. Rasheed

      Simple way you can say: Heartless Lakers. They are missing heart. We need heart!!!

      It’s not rocket science where they have to invent something new. Everything is in place but not clicking unfortunately.
      We as fans are upset. I bet Lakers management is also frustrated with their decisions and the performance of Lakers after spending millions of dollars.
      Money doesn’t buy Championships, however, talent does!

  • LaLfan619

    I don’t know but when one of Kobe’s teammate is hot, he should keep passing the ball to him but no he start shooting , I’m a laker fan and I’m not hating on Kobe but be realistic , it’s a team sport and he should pass the ball to his teammate and build confident of their shooting.

  • Crystal

    I disagree. Kobe’s not trying to undermine his teammates but he’s the only one that plays with heart game after game. Like most people, Kobe HATES to lose and he’s trying to do all that he can to carry his team.

    • Daniel Buerge

      Right, so isn’t it up to him to figure out what works best to get the team to win? Which is clearly to get more guys involved in the offense?

      • Dr. Rasheed

        so far read 1/3 page…More to read….there is too much info here…

        Foremost Daniel, I would like to praise you for daring to highlight this issue “Kobe’s Shooting Disengages Teammates; Results In Uninspired Play.”

        I am 100% sure that it affects his teammates. I will give you simple example. Lets assume, Crystal, Daniel, Rasheed, Pau, Dwight playing game. Rasheed takes more shots than the rest despite Dwight and Pau are capable of making shots, and supporting cast Daniel and Crystal are average players who can also do good if involved consistently in the game :P (no one timer game where Kobe passes ball and the other games he doesn’t)

        Rest of the guys are getting rebounds/blocking/steals, going back and forth on the floor just to see Rasheed engaged in offense. Fatigue kicks in, psychological effects kicks in (this is bullsh!t).

        In addition, Rasheed gets upset when Daniel takes a shot (Daniel has to be 100% when he shoots but this doesn’t apply to Rasheed because this is his team). After a while Daniel is not taking wide open 3-pointer or shot. Scared of Rasheed. Because Rasheed says it is his team. If you want minutes to play, you better be nice to Rasheed otherwise Rasheed will make sure you go back to the bench. If you irritate Rasheed most likely this would be your last season with Rasheed. (Question here arises how much Lakers organization is going to give Rasheed freedom and to dictate his terms. I call this baggage that comes for having the legend like Kobe playing for Lakers.)

        I have experienced it myself where one guy tries to take over and I am on the ground pissed off, thinking why the hell I am going back and forth when he is doing the scoring.

        After all, all these players did something to make it to NBA. Now in NBA, instead of playing for the team, they have to play for KOBE?

        Example: Why are clippers playing as a team? Why is Chris Paul not demanding the ball and going for MVP? Why is Chris Paul not saying it is his team? Because he doesn’t have rings, I don’t buy that. They are winning the game because they spread the ball. Everyone is involve in both offense and defense. Coach is also competent of clippers.

        Daniel if you look at post game videos of Lakers and compare Kobe and Dwight comments…you will see what I and other fans have been crying out loud. Dwight says we are not rotating on defense (I have always blamed on the coach that he is incompetent and he couldn’t fix the problem). Secondly, Kobe says we are getting beat up on transition. Duh! We have been saying defense wins offense. After playing these many games now they are telling media they have problem. We knew it a long time ago which neither the players not the coach were able fix this issue.

        Daniel bottom line: Kobe’s hunger for MVP and incompetent Coach who doesn’t fix or learn from previous games.

        It starts which Coach and then Kobe. Problem is Coach is incompetent as we have seen (with Nash he maybe good because Nash make him look good coach. Without Nash what is he?)
        Kobe is taking the heat from everyone now because he is the Leader of the team. He is responsible to fix the issue instead of jacking up the shots.

        Something else is also bothering me: Kobe takes over when others are not clicking. I have mentioned this in the past also. But, I have also mentioned that if Kobe is going to keep his mentality like this they will never win Championships. What is he going to do in playoffs? All the season is taking majority of the shots and in playoffs he changes his strategy to play team game…why not start that strategy in regular season? Who gets blamed on failure in playoffs (weak links except Kobe because he is still showing his efficiency.)
        Kobe must involve teammate from now and not it playoffs. If they miss shots let them miss shots but play team game not individual game.
        Team wins games, period!

        • Daniel Buerge

          I don’t agree with all of your points, but that’s what makes this so great. I appreciate the support. Thanks for reading and commenting. I always appreciate both.

          • Rather Win Games Than Beat MJ

            Daniel: Love this article. Thank you!

            Taking your observations further, how about looking at the makes per attempts percentages of Kobe compared to the non-Kobe 8. In some recent games Kobe shoots in low 30s while the non-Kobe 8 are shooting in the 50s.

            And how can Dwight get 9 shots at 70% and Kobe 29 shots at 31%?

            The kind of analysis in this article could actually fix the Lakers right now if people who can make the changes pay attention and stop enabling the problem.

            Keep up this kind of work and maybe they will eventually want to win badly enough to pay attention to the data!.

            (I’m thinking a whole lot of fans are so frustrated that this problem has gone unfixed for years that we are finding the joy in basketball in the other LA team…at least until the Lakers get a clue and rein in Kobe for the sake of winning games.

            If Dr. Buss wants the return of Showtime, look next door. The Clippers are making “teamwork” mighty entertaining lately. Even the opponents fans cheer a lot of their plays in away games, for the pure enjoyment of seeing good team basketball moves!)

  • joe23

    that is the reason nobody want to sign or play in Lakers team now a days, not like before. coz they know that their is kobe the ball hogger don’t pass and don’t trust his teammates… teamwork win a game notone man game…
    Kobe’s goal this season is to win the league leading scorer.

  • Ryan

    How are you going to try and tell Kobe how to be a leader, where are your rings?

    • Dr. Rasheed

      If he was acting like a leader and not too much focused on his MVP ladder then may we wouldn’t be discussing in this regard. Just because Kobe has rings means he can do whatever he wants?
      When he got the rings he had a good coach and a good supporting cast.

      • Ryan

        Kobe is gonna get around 30 and do his job regardless, he always has. You can’t ask KOBE to be NASH.

        Some of these players on the team ain’t ready to win yet, they just happy to wear the purple & gold and live in LA. It’ll come around. A 3 page review on what Kobe is doing wrong just seems ridiculous. If he was hurt too they’d have zero wins.

        • Dr. Rasheed

          either way they are losing games. Question is what he can and will do to fix this. Did you even read the 3 page article?

          • Ryan

            Article stinks, MY opinion. How are you complaining about Kobes shooting when he’s shooting near 50% from the field?! What planet am I on?? Of course Kobe is gonna dominate the ball, some of these guys have extreme butterfingers and can’t hold on to the ball (including Dwight), especially in a double team. My solution is defense oriented, stop switching if you arent going to fully commit to the mismatches, and GET DOWN on transition WITH EFFORT

  • mhuelk

    I’ve watched all the games so far and I have to say the so called supporting cast has played very poorly right from the start too often. In those cases I can understand limiting their shot attempts if they’re just not making the most open attempts!! So then Kobe takes over. Seems natural. I agree to that if that happens the other guys become somehow dislodged from the entire game.
    Fact still is: in games where they don’t play so very poorly right from the beginning, they keep getting shots and as a result they tend to win.
    Just saying: this has a lot to do with the individual performances of the non-Kobe guys. Maybe more than with Kobe being Kobe.
    They simply have to step it up big time! And THEN Kobe shouldn’t (have to) dominate the amount of shot attempts.

  • Cleazell

    If u don’t agree with this article you are what i like to call a Kobe fan not a Laker fan. In any team its important for the leader to get his team involved.

    • lakers_824

      once kobe retire manny ppl are going to be done with watching ball they are not going to be interested in watching like they are now with kobe in the league. Appreciate a Legend while u have him, not often a player like bean comes around. Once he is gone then u will start to realize how good he really was.

      • Dr. Rasheed

        We know that already. But this is not a excuse for poor leadership. Offense not working, defense not working…What is working so far…I’ll tell you Kobe’s stats are good…MVP ladder. The rest is disaster.

        I see this as a crime scene. Who is the beneficiary out of this disaster. I only see ONE MR. KOBE BRYANT!!! “my hero”

        • lakers_824

          1. Dwight does not have ANY post moves besides the left hook, also he does not dominate the paint like shaq did, he needs to be tougher and stronger common u cant even score on tyler zeller really?, on another note i think coach needs to draw up more easy plays for dwight like ally oops?

          2. The play of MWP needs to be consistent, he needs to make his 3′s and needs to make more good plays, for example when he drives to the lane he looks like he going outta control eveytime, the only reason he is on this team is because of his D, and his defense has been alright but he cannot lock down stars liek he used to

          3. Kobe Bryant – Kobe has been shooting lights out this year over 50%, but his only problem is he may force some shots but thats only bcuz he knows no one else is scoring so he kind of needs to take that load on. Another big problem is that kobe does not play Defense all the time, he needs to help more often rather than just stand there and get mad. And i think he needs move the ball around bcuz his teammates dont look like they are having fun, i mean if i was in the league i wouldnt wanna play D if i didnt get the ball. Even a single touch could get players going.

          4. The Bench – They have played really well lately especially jamison duhon meeks and hill they are playing there game to the fullest but i think the bench does not get enough playing time at times. I have no issues of the bench besides the point gaurd i do not want steve blake id rather take duhon but i really want lakers to sign west he would be huge.

          5. The Coach – I think mike system is alright but i dont think they should run n gun every posession, if its there then go if its not pull back and play from the post or pick and roll. He should also play more inside out becuz when dwight and pau or kobe get doubled in the post they get so many options and easier looks. Still woulda liked phil but i believe in dantoni

          6. Pau Gasol – I think he needs to be in the post more and i think he needs to have more touches i mean he is the most skilled big man in the game, i really hope dantoni finds a way to get gasol to fit into his system.

          7. Steve Nash – He will fix the offense no doubt but the defense is where there is going to be a problem, so well see what the future hold but i think we will get it right at about all star break

          • Dr. Rasheed

            1. Issue is with D12: Lakers need more offense from D12…

            Check this out!
            Shaq solution for Dwight is about minimum 28 point and 10rebounds per game.

            Dwight past history:
            Orlando 18.4 points/13 rebounds

            Dwight current stats: aka Dominant center of NBA. (He should not wait until Kobe leaves Lakers to show his dominance. He has the best group in the history of NBA)
            Lakers 18.5 points/11.2 rebounds

            Solution: Class is in session, Dwight! (by Shaq)
            3 shots/Qtr = 12 shots/game
            If if make 50% = 12 points.

            4 Offensive putbacks = 8points (12+8 =20pts)
            3 dropoffs (from Kobe/Pau/Nash pick n roll) = 6pts (12+8+6=26 pts)
            If he makes 5/10 Free throws = 5 points (12+8+6+5=31 pts)
            Total = 31 points.

            2. Agree with you MWP. Again Lakers have identity issue. Each individual doesn’t know what their role is. Once they figure it out, it will get better.

            3. Agree, Kobe needs to change his strategy as well.

            4. Disagree with West. (but if Kobe and Dwight are fine with west then I have no problem). Agreed bench is showing some positive signs.

            5. I am confused on this one. 90% of the time I am anti-D’Antoni but 10% I have hope with D’Antoni (which is associated with how Nash responds to this situation).
            Although they played only 11 games with him and won 4 games. Either the coach is incompetent or his staff. Technically speaking this coach is useless without Nash.

            6. Agree, but incompetent coach or his staff have failed to utilize him (resulting in rumormill trade Pau).

            7. Agree Nash is going to make offense better. But you also have to understand that Nash is been out of game for long time now. Building chemistry is going to take time. Initially, I am expecting few turnovers by Nash but as time goes on it will be reduced with better understanding.
            DEFENSE DEFENSE DEFENSE. This is like a kryptonite for Lakers. They don’t have defense. If Dwight does defense, there is no one rotating and opponent easily scoring. Fast break points, lay ups and giving opponent easy shots is costing games as well.

    • lakers_824

      ohh yea and i forgot to add i dont agree with this article


    You’re simply like a sheep being led to the slaughter when you buy into this malarkey… It basically comes from ESPN news reporters who absolutely hate Kobe; first & foremost, with the Lakers as a whole; a very close second…

    Many of these detractors, such as Neil Everett, will sarcastically say and put stuff out there to influence and engage naive fans with buying into their underlying agenda… which is too discredit Kobe and the Lakers, as much as they possibly can… Listen attentively and you will hear it.


      To discredit Kobe and the Lakers: The objective of this detractor (Neil Everett)… there are many more at ESPN, this fool is just blatantly obvious.

  • ProLAL

    the team will win if Kobe is shooting and his teamates shooting too. in case of those loses. Kobe is shooting while majority of his teamates can’t. why the hell blame the Black Mamba? he wants to win, give him the ball. There are so many ways he’s teamates can help, if they cant score?they can help on defence. it doesnt always the scoring that really matters..

    • Dr. Rasheed

      and then cripple their game but don’t change Kobe game…In playoff, if other team shuts down Kobe then you would probably want this crippled team to take over while whole season they are not playing that role.

      Team wins game, Kobe cannot win games by himself. (maybe few games he can win by himself, he is a legend but not the majority of the games)

      If we go by your strategy: if Kobe misses first two shot then he should stop shooting the ball and help on defense and other things right? Does that happen? Is that possible?

      Why double standards for one player and not for other?

      When you have a weak link, you make the weak link stronger not send them to bench or ask them to do other task.
      A leader see this and makes this team better. Kobe has the potential to change how things are going on in the team. However, at present his agenda is on MVP!

      • ProLAL

        all I’m saying is that hes teammate should step up too… i didn’t say that the ball will always be w/ Kobe.. Yes, leadership is key Kobe have that, he need his teammates.. they should not only be blaming The Black Mamba for this.. The supporting cast doesn’t fit his leadership..

  • Biggie

    I have been saying this for years Kobe is a great talent but he makes everyone worse. He is a catch and hold guy which is very hard to play with he takes people out of their rhythm. The lakers will change when Kobe gets his teammates involved. Shaq hated playing with Kobe, Bynum hated Kobe, Gasol hates playing with Kobe and now Dwight hates playing with Kobe. Kobe is older now. I have alot of respect for him as a competitor but he needs to create an unselfish culture like Chris Paul is doing with the clippers. When big men get touches they give you so much defensively and the lakers need that. No more blaming it on the coach

  • http://www.facebook.com/robinkimfoo Robin Kim

    the author is an absolute retard. you want to talk numbers? look at the games in which kobe has scored over 40 points. the lakers record when he does so is 65-31 or something along those lines, a .667 winning percentage. when he scores 30 or more the lakers record is just as good if not better, as is also the case when he scores more than 50. “but but this season the record is 1-10″ why do you attribute this season entirely to kobe when overall it is obvious that him pouring in that ridiculous number of points benefits the team OVERALL? again, you’re nothing but a sh*t chucking ape who struggles to comprehend the multiple nuances of the game that actually affect the outcome, and instead decides to blame ONE aspect that is coincidentally the easiest to come up with. last time i checked, there are four other players on the court at any given time that completely suck balls, what were their stats on the aforementioned games? ah, “kobe made them suck” right? yawn, new material please.

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