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Game Recap: Lakers Upset Thunder Behind Meeks’ Career Day

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The Lakers look to end their three-game losing streak, but have a tough task ahead against the Oklahoma City Thunder who own the best record in the Western Conference. Fresh off a double-double, Ryan Kelly was inserted into the starting lineup in place of Kent Bazemore.

The Thunder are led by MVP front-runner Kevin Durant, as well as Russell Westbrook who is still playing limited minutes in returning from a knee injury. These two teams will meet again on Thursday night in Oklahoma City.

First Quarter

Early offensive struggles for the Lakers before Meeks got them on the board with two free throws. Durant, Westbrook, and Ibaka each got early buckets for a quick 7-2 lead. Lakers got going behind Kelly and Meeks to cut the lead down to one. Meeks’ three-point play tied the game at 19. A couple of turnovers led to some OKC easy baskets as they reclaimed the lead. The Lakers stayed in the game thanks to their work at the free throw line, making nine of ten in the quarter, but rebounding failures hurt them again. A Durant four-point play pushed the Thunder lead to nine.

Second Quarter

The Thunder started the quarter on a 7-0 run capped off by a Jeremy Lamb three-pointer and out of nowhere, the Thunder lead by 16. Robert Sacre got the Lakers on the board in the quarter, but the Lakers couldn’t get anything to fall. Some sloppy play plagued the second quarter as both teams turned the ball over multiple times. The Lakers would go on a 15-2 run led by Jodie Meeks to cut the lead to five. The rebounding for the Lakers continued to be abysmal as the Thunder got multiple chances and got a bucket to end the quarter and led by five at half.

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Third Quarter

Oklahoma City got the first two baskets of the quarter before a Gasol layup got the Lakers going. The Lakers had three turnovers in the first two minutes as the Thunder pushed their lead to 12 on a Westbrook three-point play. Meeks with five straight points to keep the Lakers close, but they struggled to generate points consistently. Thanks to Thunder turnovers the Lakers cut the lead to four on another Meeks three and free throws. A Jodie three put the Lakers in front and gave Meeks a new career high. Meeks free throws, a Farmar three and a Bazemore layup put the Lakers in front by 12. Gasol with a block to end the quarter as the Lakers outscored OKC 36-19, including 20 from Meeks to lead by 12.

Fourth Quarter

Gasol got the Lakers started with a three-point play and a short jumper after a Thunder turnover. A Farmar three pushed the Lakers lead to 18 and forced a Thunder timeout. Durant attempted to take over midway through the quarter and cut the lead to 14. The Thunder would not go down without a fight as free throws and a Fisher three cut the lead to eight. Another Fisher three cut the lead to five but a Gasol dunk kept them at bay. Bazemore and Jackson traded threes as the Lakers held on to a five point lead. The Lakers failure to rebound killed them down the stretch and a Westbrook dunk cut the lead to three. Westbrook would miss a couple of threes as the Lakers hold on to upset the Thunder 114-110

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VIDEO: Mike D’Antoni On Jodie Meeks, Plus Explains Why Kent Bazemore’s Contributions Were Crucial


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  • Tyler

    LAKERS!!

    • Dragon7s

      MEEKS!!!

    • LakersHeatBeef

      Bazemore!!

  • Daryl Peek

    I need Meeks dissenters to have several seats!

    • Jim213

      Smh, can’t help to think that you’re implying me too. It’s about consistency and yes he had his best game ever offensively but sounds like you’re ready to give him the keys to the city or something smh. Let’s see how the next game turns out against the Thunder on the road AGAIN.

      However, still going with Farmar (2nd unit), X Henry (possibly), Brooks, Bazemore, Hill, Sacre (signed for next yr), and Meeks (so so reliable) for next season. Take a deep breath DP but guess now you’re rolling with Meeks as opposed to Blake given the trade? (jab)

      • Dragon7s

        Meeks has proven himself as a Laker.
        I liked him in Philly and was mildly excited when he signed with the Lakers.
        While he was very inconsistent to start his Laker career, he’s proven that he belongs in Purple and Gold.

        • Jim213

          Agree, tho needs to improve more (consistency) IMO but looks like negotiations for next year will come with a salary increase.

          • Dragon7s

            I think Meeks signs for something similar to what he’s making this year (slight raise?).
            It’s apparent that he likes being a Laker and has a certain pride in being on the team.

          • Daryl Peek

            Meeks will at minimum command mini mid level money, 3.1 mil a season. If Earl Clark and Ramon sessions can get close to 5 mil a season Meeks will not get slightly more than the 1.5 mil he’s presently being paid. If the FO think that, he’s long gone already…

          • Jim213

            Hearing everyone around the league give Meeks congrats including other team broadcasters given they beat OKC.

          • Daryl Peek

            Dave McMenamin @mcten 3h
            Westbrook on Meeks’ 42: “There’s nothing to talk about.” Meeks on Russell’s 20 pts, 8 ast, 8 turnovers: “He’s a great player.” #class

            Somebody was butt hurt

          • Jim213

            Better not get blown out in OKC come next game like the last one played over there.

          • Daryl Peek

            Given the wild inconsistencies of this team as a group, I wouldn’t be surprised if the game in OKC is a revenge laugher like the two Clippers games were as they took the loss to us personal.

        • Daryl Peek

          Exactly. Jim is a trip with the consistency thing? Meeks has been nothing but consistent this season and is our most consistent player this year.

          • Jim213

            SMH, @ DP, but IMO Meeks price will go up given there’s other team’s who’d want a good shooter so the Lakers won’t be the only one’s come FA time. Career earnings for Meeks = $3,766,584!?!

            He’s done more this season than the other so called talented players on the roster. Come FA time money will talk since he has a good shot to increase his pay this off season (FA).

          • Daryl Peek

            So are you mad at him for improving his game to the point we may not be able to afford to keep him? Bottom line, the kid is a solid NBA player, and could start on many teams in this league. I’ve never said he’s superstar material.

            If the Lakers value him they will have to pay to keep him. Other wise he moves on like many others have in the past. Meeks has to take advantage of this seasons momentum and secure the best possible contract he can. At 26 given his ceiling as I see it he may not have a better chance than this to secure his financial future.

          • Jim213

            Meeks strengths are more on the offensive end as he needs to improve his defense to be more consistent. But given that Blake has been traded it’d be best to keep Meeks. IMO, Blake was the better ball handler out of the two as if Blake was still around we can say we’d have a third PG for next season (if two kept around for next season).

            Ex. IMO, where would Meeks end up next season if a team like (let’s say) the Spurs had serious interest in him while offering $3.5 or $4 mil per year? Would Meeks stay with the Lakers who are on the rebuilding phase or would he go to the Spurs and play for a better coach (Popovich) aside of them (Spurs) being in the mix for title contention constantly?

          • Daryl Peek

            That’s your opinion on Meeks defensively. Mike Brown, MDA and every NBA analyst that has covered a Lakers game over that last two seasons says different. It was Meeks defense that helped the Lakers down the stretch last season during the 28-12 playoff push. It was Meeks defense with the bench mob that created all the buzz as we were able to play press man coverage full court due to his tenacity and foot speed, early in the season before all of the injuries. It was that tenacity that kept Damien Lillard in check as we beat the Blazers recently and it was Meeks tenacity and foot speed that created multiple turnovers today as he hounded Westbrook and the passing lanes of the Thunder. This was completely evident as the team was excellent trapping today, and Hubie Brown made mention of it several times.

            I really have a hard time understanding how you can continue to say Meeks is not consistent defensively?

          • Jim213

            Defensive Impact: Statistics measuring the impact a player has on defense, including blocks, steals and protecting the rim, which measures the opponent’s field goal percentage at the rim while it is being defended. Rim protection is defined as the defender being within five
            feet of the basket and within five feet of the offensive player attempting the shot.

            Meeks plays close to 33 minutes a game (58). Opponents have an avg FG@Rim% of over 57% against Meeks while being defended by him. Jordan Farmar avg=50% FG@Rim% tho in playing 33 games. Wes Johnson has a 56.3 FG@Rim%. X henry 50.8% FG@Rim% mostly before his injury. Thow in Steve Blake opponents avg 59% FG@Rim% against Blake but now with the GSW= 50% thus far tho too soon but (motivation). Pau Gasol who supposedly under the rim mostly = 54.3% FG@Rim%. Opponents have a 60.2% FG@Rim% against
            Ryan Kelly too but (cut rookie some slack).

            But will keep it real as to my surprise J Hill (33 games) has a 70.7 FG@Rim% has to improve but we know what he do. Here’s a good one for you DP? given you’re always backing up the coach’s rotations Chris Kaman has a 43.2%! FG@Rim% and yet with all the issues with regards to playing D he manages to sit on the bench SMH! (conspiracy?, something wrong here seriously) But K Marshall’s FG@Rim% = 58.3% KIND OF SIMILAR
            TO JODIE MEEKS?

            So both Meeks and Marshall have a similar impact defending with regards to defending inside or while on the go as opposed to defending on one spot. The coach is doing a fantastic job given the circumstances DP say’s smh. So I’d disagree to an extent as don’t have all the stats but get left behind forces others to compensate (teammates).Last one Steve nash has a 80%!FG@Rim% (LIABILITY) DEFENSIVE BREAKDOWN but given FO’s bad moves have to #rollwithit. Stats @ NBA .com check yourself DP! (pun) Can’t just stand their and get blown by or let other pass you on the way inside (no diss to anyone tho) my view.

          • Daryl Peek

            All of that statistical analysis tells me nothing. I see and have seen Meeks impact in his position defending, just as I’ve seen Marshall’s. Much of those advanced stats are dependent on team defensive concepts which we all know these Lakers are terrible at this season.

            When you watch Kaman and Hill defend you clearly see and know Hill is the better defender. Kaman will block more shots but cannot match Hill overall as a defender. Offensive efficiency plays a part in this also. Kaman and Gasol are much better offensive players than Hill and Sacre therefore the team defense will be better when their on the floor from a statistical PER tracking stand point, as there will be more shots made by us offensively and less possessions for the other team for our guy to defend.

            No team that is forced to use 29 different starting line ups will have good defensive cohesion as a unit. Look at the Spurs, Bulls, Heat and Warriors for example? Their cores have been the same for about the last three to four seasons. Continuity is the key to becoming a good defensive team. Offense is much easier to groom with new players because you don’t need to trust you teammate as much on offense as you do on defense.

            So one can dig all the advanced stats on individual players defensive efficiency they want man but you cannot come to a complete conclusion on a guards individual performance based off rim protection analytic’s when they are again dependent on other players rotating in help defense.

          • Jim213

            Blah Blah DP see the stats show inconsistency PROOF as they keep getting blown out inside SMH. Just shows to some extent that the rotations are primed for offense as opposed to defense.

            Some stats show that Meeks has a similar type of impact as KM with regards to his D but IMO they don’t take momentum feeding off of one end to the other that’s when you observe better effort from this team (spurts) but it’s about offensive efficiency for DP. smh (pun) Advanced stats? no way just better calculations of over play as I don’t really bother (more of an observer than a statics guy) but THE STATS DON’T LIE DP!

          • Daryl Peek

            TEAM STATS USED TO PROVE INDIVIDUAL “PER” CAN ABSOLUTELY LIE JIM!

            If your defensive objective is to funnel a perimeter player your defending to the middle where the help is supposed to be, and the big’s don’t rotate in time you have a problem. If your big’s don’t show in the high PNR defensively you have a problem in the paint with the player rolling. If you’re a volume three point shooting team and are not hitting them you get long rebounds which can lead to fast break points in the paint for the opposition. There many more factors I could cite that I’m sure you’re aware of. I can promise you coaches like Thibs, Doc, Phil, Pop and Spoelstra aren’t or weren’t using statistical analysis to tell if they had a good defender.

          • Jim213

            Although I’m not a stat guy (truthfully) defensive impact stats are good to observe given one can see the effort on the defensive end (somewhat) tho lucky shots may also be taken into account. But truthfully DP… you have more knowledge about the game and not all stats don’t show everything but want I’m saying is … AND!!… accept your defeat #checkmate (pun). but seriously accept it! (pun)

          • Antzer

            Meeks helps from the weak side when he isnt suppose to n in the process looses sight of his man or cant get back in time, this has been going on all season long. This is one of the many defensive problems of our team.

          • Daryl Peek

            You see that on every NBA team when you see a player get a wide open three point shot from good ball rotation and floor spacing. Teams that have the trust of continuities tenure are better at communication which helps stem the tide of this.

            Look at the top 5 teams defensively? They are all tenured core rosters. The GS Warriors were and are still not known for defensive prowess from a perception perspective but they are the third best defensive team in the league.

            I call it the backside looky lou defense and all teams and players fall victim to it.

          • Sam Saab

            True, if LA wants a good solid lineup next year they dont need to go search they got meeks right there and need to pay him what hes worth. I hope they dont let him go, he has improved his game so much!

      • Daryl Peek

        Every NBA analyst that does Lakers games, does nothing but rave about how consistent Meeks has been this season.

        • Jim213

          Argued plenty of times with regards to this but this goes for his all around game which applies defense.

          • Daryl Peek

            Which has been just as consistent as his offensive game as I illustrated.

      • Kay Carter

        you like brooks?

        • Jim213

          Yes, tho young can play an all around game as needs to improve offensively (decision making, mechanics) but can shoot the ball and play defense. yes, bad game against the clipps.

          • Kay Carter

            yeah he’s pretty decent nd have potential, but with so many players at the G/F spot, you still rather keep him? We have Kobe, Meeks, Young, Johnson, Bazemore, nd X

            Some fans wanna see Deng, Ariza, Parker, or Wiggins come during tha summer….would you keep brooks on this team still?

          • Sam Saab

            im not feeling brooks to much, he has that one good game with 22 points but other than that i havent seen to much..i really like bazemore though, i feel next year he will improve a lot more and will really strengthen the team

          • Kay Carter

            yeah me either, rather see some1 else like Ariza take his spot…..bazemore have better potential nd is better defensively than brooks imo

      • truth24

        Why in the he’ll would you want Brooks Bazemore sacre signed for next season. They fucking suck . You really think your gonna win a championship with those bums? Lol. You have settled for mediocracy.

        • Jim213

          No, b/c given the salary cap restrictions for next season they’re not going to cut 8+ players and bring a whole new batch for next season. Sacre is already inked for next season but the other players IMO have shown more hustle on both sides of the floor than the ones not mentioned (no diss to no one business).

          Bazemore and Brooks are young have more of an upside then the others not mentioned on the prior post. They play good D tho need to improve consistently on both sides but there’s more upside than the others. Bring back 7-8 players acquire a strong draft prospect in the draft and go after 2 PF’s, PG, and a center during the off season.

          Nash will likely return next season as FO may not want to stretch provision Nash to spread his salary over the next 3 seasons. The coach SMH may return next season too given he has another season remaining in his contract. However, the masses IMO will be rioting if both Nash and the coach return IMO. Given it’s the coach’s final year buy it out 9if possible) hire a new coach who can cohesively unite this roster to get a head start towards 2015.

          IMO, if the FO wants to allure some stars come 2015 they have to show that they’re doing what’s best for the brand by hiring the best coach possible to turn the team’s negative perception around. IMO, given that K Love hasn’t been to the playoffs (and i he misses this season too) he’ll be like Melo and wantout of Minnesota but if FO can’t show more appeal to those star players I don’t believe no one will want to sign with the Lakers for now (star player) as want to win nore so now than down the line, that’s another reason why DH left.

          • hookedonnews

            Coaching and personnel decisions are not made to please the masses. Why would anyone riot if Steve Nash is healthy and able to play? They’re not going to fire D’Antoni. It makes no sense from a monetary perspective or any other for that matter. He’s good with young players, and that’s what you’re going to have until some top players are brought in through free agency in 2015 and 2016. I don’t know what coach you believe would attract stars (other than those who already have jobs) any more than D’Antoni. I know that a lot of fans keep repeating the fable that superstars don’t want to play for him, but there’s nothing to back up that theory. DH left because he’s a moron who didn’t want to play with Kobe. He said he would stay if they amnestied him. Trying to paint all great players as thinking like Howard is more than a stretch. I don’t think MDA being the coach would keep Kevin Love out of LA. I don’t think LeBron went to Miami because of the coach. LA is still an attractive destination. I don’t think we’ll have any problems getting good players to come here. If next year goes badly they’ll probably hire another coach, but I don’t look for a change before the end of next season.

          • Jim213

            Smh, not what some are hearing, First Take: Stephen A Smith. “I had a source tell me last night that Mike D’Antoni is gone at the end of the season. He won’t be there,” Sources close to the organization state but this isn’t Chris Broussard to disregard his input too.

            But riot is more in a sense of making their voices displeasure heard next season. Not like the LA riots smh. A better coach who can play with his roster is needed b/c as we observe today the bogs have expressed their displeasure with how they’re currently used/unsed. Don’t see a player like Greg Monroe if they go that route or a player like Melo as well as a few others coming to LA.

            But you’d rather roll with the boat… understand smh, which goes for keeping Nash too but FO will make the best move for their future aspirations (hopefully). But the fans have a voice too even if you don’t agree (customer retention/loyalty in the product) and if they express dislike as they have this year with regards to Nash and the coach many will keep their money in there pockets as opposed to providing more revenue for the brand.

            Gonna keep it real but I’d doubt FO seriously cares of how they’re perceived by the fans especially once the season is over. They’ll all sleep at night and do whatever they do in the off season. But the difference here is the fans displeasure with the way that things are currently being handled while routing for the team. In the end they’ll eventually observe a decrease in revenue as a result of the team’s direction. it’s business. So the people that invest in the brand (spend $$) and especially those at Staples will have a say no matter what some think. BUSINESS

          • hookedonnews

            My problem is that the fans have been nearly irrational from the day MDA arrived. They have given him zero support because they all wanted PJ, and many of them still believe he’s coming back although there is no chance of that happening. The fact that they went to the playoffs last season with all the injuries was a near miracle, and fans are still bitching about the sweep even though Kobe, Nash, MWP, Blake, and Meeks were all out and we were playing with the worst bench in the league. This season the injuries have been even worse, and yet they still blame D’Antoni for the record. At some point you have to employ some common sense, but I don’t see a lot of that on threads like this one. They may fire him, but the smart thing to do IMO would be to let him finish his contract and see what he can do with a healthy roster. They could always fire him during the season if things are going badly. It takes time to rebuild a team. Fans need to understand that. Some seem to expect that championships come with the name, but they take time and work and the right players as well as a good coach.

          • Jim213

            Good point, but he can coach a team. However, it’s not the Lakers or any other team that has a player like Kobe or Melo. After he ends his run with the Lakers (whenever that is) it be best if he landed a coaching gig with a team that would let him start from scratch while letting him implementing his system and bring in his own players.

            As we observed with Melo things didn’t pan out b/c Melo is a scorer while being a ball handler which the same can be said for Kobe too. The coach needs to find or go to a team who has players that he knows can/will adapt to his system. B/c as we hear from Kobe he’s not to fond of small ball thus things won’t change upon his return next season.

            The coach can be successful like with the nuns but IMO he needs to mold his own team. There are team’s like the Cavs who are thinking about implementing small ball to make the game fun for players like Irving while attracting others possibilities too.

            Don’t hate the coach but the thing for me is that the way the roster is currently with Kobe and a few others it’d be best to find a more suitable coach who can get everyone on the same page which goes for playing D.

          • hookedonnews

            I agree with what you’re saying. It would be ideal to be able to build a team with the players you want. He was doing that in NY until they brought in Carmelo Anthony and traded off a lot of their good young players. Denver instantly got better after Anthony left. George Karl made some interesting comments today on Sports Center about Melo. He said that some people in the league believe you can’t win a championship with him, and that he didn’t think Phil Jackson (if he takes that job in NY) would want a player like him on the team because of the way he plays.

            Also agree that it looks like Kobe is never going to adjust his game to fit the D’Antoni system, although I think he would be extremely efficient working within it. When Kobe came back for those 6 games D’Antoni tweaked the system to let him do what he wants. He understands that the team needs Kobe’s scoring and how important Kobe is to the team and the city.

            I think Gasol has proven he can play within the system once he made up his mind to start being aggressive. I don’t think Kaman will be back next season. Not sure about Hill. Of course, if they fire MDA who knows? The players they brought in this season (other than Kaman) all fit the D’Antoni system. There’s really only Kobe who wants to do his own thing. I think you can work around that, but it would be better if you didn’t have to.

            I don’t know what they’re going to do, but bringing in another coach is no guarantee of a better outcome. I think a lot of these young players like playing for D’Antoni. Some of them are having career years under him. If he’s fired and they’re offered more money somewhere else they might not stay in LA, depending on who’s brought in to replace him. Should be an interesting few weeks ahead. If they finish strong there’s always the chance that they’ll keep him even if they’re thinking of firing him now.

            I think everyone agrees that defense has to improve. Keeping down the turnovers will help eliminate some of those easy transition baskets that have been killing us all season. Basemore is a pretty good defender, and Kelly is improving. Adding a good big man to protect the rim would help. I don’t think you can lay all the defensive woes on D’Antoni. George Karl is not a great defensive coach. Lionel Hollins may be better, but I don’t see him as someone who could take LA to the Finals. Same for Nate McMillan.

    • http://www.haveslot.com/ richard

      I am not ashamed to admit… I was foremost in advocating that we let go of Meeks at the end of last season…. if he can keep his defensive intensity and continue to improve on his handle and his drive to the rim, I will be affront to say, he would be a keeper.

      • Daryl Peek

        If you remember I said last season Meeks was caught up in the intimidation factor of playing with the Lakers legendary brand and more importantly behind Kobe. Jodie was torn as he was and still is very close to Howard. Meeks is a student of the game. You could see that about his work ethic and demeanor last season. MDA’s patience’s allowed his confidence to take over. I saw the young Ray Allen lite in his game. Remember Allen was nice going to the rack in the He Got Game days of Milwaukee.

        • http://www.haveslot.com/ richard

          yeah, I did remember that… good riddance..

      • Josh

        Me too

  • Matt Williams

    I don’t give a damn what anybody says. This was a great win and I want to keep Meeks for next year!

    • Chrmngblly

      Right. Keeping Meeks–and maybe bringing Pau back at a lesser salary, are pretty good reasons for stretching Nash—if that is the difference and it keeps us under the cap. Nash is washed up, regardless, so I am keeping all options open. Others want to glorify Nash’s golden years with another team. I am more cold blooded about it.
      We still have to have talent on the bench. I like Brooks and Bazemore, too. This is why I see Kobe coming back at the 3 in front of Bazemore.

      • Josh

        Don’t stretch Nash. Just get his salary out of the way next season and don’t let it tie our hands for two more years.

        • Chrmngblly

          Sure, if you can. We still have to field a team and get under the cap, though. What if that can’t happen without letting quality front line players walk away for nothing? It all depends. This is why having everyone on expiring contracts at the same time is such a bitch.
          And this is why Nash is such a fu*cker. He has every right to live by his contract–except it is a bad contract and he isn’t showing any love for the Lakers by hanging around and hanging around. The whole reason for him even being a Laker went out the window when Howard left.
          Nash is not the future; he is not even the present. Everybody is just waiting for the guy to leave and get out of the way. I know he feels it. But it’s not fair to the Lakers and the rest of the team, what he’s doing.

  • Daryl Peek

    I defend MDA but I’ll call BS when I see it. MDA almost gave this game away keeping Marshall on the floor at the end when Farmar was balling in the second half.

    • Dragon7s

      I was trying to watch the game streaming online but my connection was horrible but looking at the box score, Marshall was running the offense much more efficiently?
      Having said that, seeing as how close the game was, Farmar would have been better as a defensive substitute?

      • Daryl Peek

        Marshall has the ability to run the team but is too much of a liability both defensively and with his inability to hit a jumper. Keep in mind he can knock down the wide open three point set shot but that will not allow you to stick on the NBA level.

        • Dragon7s

          Not sure I agree with that assessment.
          Running an efficient offense is something that is woefully lacking in today’s score-first PG’s.
          Why do you need your PG to score when that player can get the ball to others who scores more efficiently?
          And if he can hit the open 3, then it keeps the opposing defense honest.

          • Daryl Peek

            No you must be able to hit a jumper, be it a three pointer or mid range shot to keep a defense honest. This is why KM is struggling. Teams have game film on him and defend him based on his weaknesses. If you can’t adjust by making a three pointer or jump shot with a little pressure or a hand in your face you’re too one dimensional offensively as the guy running the offense. Now couple that with his lack of foot speed and poor defensive prowess.

            At Marshall’s size for a PG his ceiling should be Andre Miller like but the shooting deficiency coupled with his inability to finish contested jumpers or in the paint limits his possible staying power in this league. Miller had many of the short comings KM has athletically but made up for it with decent shooting under pressure and being able to post up as a PG.

            CP3 is the best PG in the NBA due to being able to pass and shoot. KM will never be that but he must fix his defense, jumper and paint presence offensively if he is to make a career out of this game.

          • Dragon7s

            KM is still young and playmaking PG is one of the most demanding positions in the NBA.
            Rookie stats for some of the premier PG’s in the league in their 1st year:
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            Player
            Age
            Pos
            G
            GS
            MP
            FG
            FGA
            FG%
            3P
            3PA
            3P%
            2P
            2PA
            2P%
            TRB
            AST
            STL
            TOV
            PTS

            Steve Nash
            22
            PG
            65
            2
            10.5
            1.1
            2.7
            0.423
            0.4
            0.8
            0.418
            0.8
            1.8
            0.425
            1
            2.1
            0.3
            1
            3.3

            Tony Parker
            19
            PG
            77
            72
            29.4
            3.5
            8.3
            0.419
            0.8
            2.5
            0.323
            2.7
            5.8
            0.460
            2.6
            4.3
            1.2
            2
            9.2

            Chris Pau
            20
            PG
            78
            78
            36
            5.2
            12.1
            0.430
            0.6
            2.3
            0.282
            4.6
            9.9
            0.464
            5.1
            7.8
            2.2
            2.3
            16.1

            Gary Payton
            22
            PG
            82
            82
            27.4
            3.2
            7
            0.450
            0
            0.2
            0.077
            3.1
            6.9
            0.459
            3
            6.4
            2
            2.2
            7.2

            Kendall Marshall
            22
            PG
            35
            26
            30.3
            3.4
            8.2
            0.417
            1.6
            3.6
            0.440
            1.9
            4.7
            0.399
            3.1
            9.5
            0.7
            2.8
            8.7

            John Stockton
            22
            PG
            82
            5
            18.2
            1.9
            4.1
            0.471
            0
            0.1
            0.182
            1.9
            3.9
            0.481
            1.3
            5.1
            1.3
            1.8
            5.6

            Westbrook
            20
            PG
            82
            65
            32.5
            5.3
            13.4
            0.398
            0.4
            1.6
            0.271
            4.9
            11.8
            0.415
            4.9
            5.3
            1.3
            3.3
            15.3

            John Wall
            20
            PG
            69
            64
            37.8
            5.8
            14.1
            0.409
            0.5
            1.7
            0.296
            5.3
            12.4
            0.425
            4.6
            8.3
            1.8
            3.8
            16.4

            [/code]

            Not sure how the above will copy and paste but you can see that Marshall compares favorably with some of the top PG’s early in their careers.
            Give the guy a couple of years to grow as a player and in my opinion, he could be one of the best playmaking PG’s ever.

          • Daryl Peek

            He wont get that chance in this NBA if he does not improve on the areas I spoke on. I’m not saying the kid can’t get better but he must if he wants to avoid the Suns problem all over again. IJS

          • Chrmngblly

            I think you are going to want to eat those words in 2 years. KM has proven he can do this job. Not making shots is in his head right now so I am thankful he is not shooting a lot to try to get out of his slump. Nash ought to be helping him right now.

          • Daryl Peek

            No words for me to eat. I’ve said over and over the kid is young enough to show he can get better. It’s up to him to do that given were talking some fundamentals he should be better at, at this point of his NBA career. Time will tell

          • Josh

            I agree. People act like it’s okay for an NBA player to use the inexperience excuse for poor shooting. These guys have been playing organized basketball for 15 years. They should be able to make a jump shot, a contested layup, a free throw… “It’s only his second year in the league” is not a valid excuse.

          • Sam Saab

            KM cant even shoot a free throw

          • Daryl Peek

            56% career average and 55% this season with the Lakers. Although he attempts less than one per game. Not a good look on several levels. It’s proof of his lack of offensive prowess in the paint.

            But I highly doubt you’ll be called out (told you’re a hater or need to eat your words) for saying it like I do.

          • Josh

            In today’s score-first PG offense, you have to have a PG who can keep up either offensively or defensively. Marshall can do neither.

          • Josh

            Marshall reminds me of a young Rajon Rondo, though his ceiling is much lower. Rondo’s inability to shoot is the reason the Lakers beat them for that ring. Kobe didn’t have to guard Rondo and was able to float on defense. You can’t have a guy play big minutes and not be able to shoot. I don’t mind low-scoring games from the PG–Magic had lots of them–but you can’t score 0 five times in six games (or whatever KM has done).

        • Daniel

          I would Keep Marshall next year, but as second or third PG. If you can not defend and you can’t have 10-12 points as a starter, you can’t be a starter in this league. Most of the assist come as a consequence of the MD offense, where we do not play inside. KM is not opening defenses for the Lakers centers of PF inside, just passing the ball laterally and getting assists that way. Just one more year to see if he improves his shooting and his defense.

          • Dragon7s

            KM finds the open man…full stop.

            Most NBA players can make the majority of their shots when the ball is given to them in the right spot.

            It amazes me that so many people underestimate the value of a PG that understands that and can make the right choices at game speed.

          • Daryl Peek

            But it is at true starter game speed that he comes up short due to his offensive and defensive weaknesses. He’s still very young and can improve on them if he finds a home and has a HC as patient as MDA is with guards. I just don’t know if that will be the case next season with Kobe returning.

          • Daryl Peek

            I feel you but I don’t know how his development would progress coming off the bench? And I really worry about how he would fare playing with Kobe? He will not be able to be as ball dominate playing with say both Kobe and Gasol. No way, and his lack of offensive aggressiveness and defensive prowess would be extremely detrimental playing with Kobe and Pau at this point in their careers.

            KM is better served playing for a bad team with a bunch of young athlete’s who can run the floor. This is why he thrived for a while with MDA and the reserve starters. As Gasol has come back into form and some of the others reserve starters who can handle the ball at time have made their way back Marshall has fallen off…

          • karasoon4

            He absolutely needs to work on a floater and/or teardrop over the summer. He gets in the lane, and teams play him so loosely in there because they know the majority of the time he can’t finish and he is looking to an open shooter, or Pau.

          • Daryl Peek

            Exactly. He also must find a mid range pull up jumper. Add that to his arsenal he becomes next level given his passing skills.

    • michael

      I don’t understand why he didn’t use the timeouts?

    • karasoon4

      The only thing I could come up with is that Farmar was running out of gas. He had been going hard for quite some time up until that point, and I think stretching out a minute too long at times can bring about turnovers due to an empty tank. So, maybe he figured better be safe than sorry, and get marshall in with rested legs for the home stretch? Ironically though, from that point on, the team started making stupid mistakes (not having to do with Marshall replacing Farmar I don’t think), and that is what almost cost us the game. Just a young team who hasn’t had much experience in tight games in the 4th. I’m still willing to give a lot of these guys some time to grow, and an offseason to reflect and work on things they need to improve upon. The majority of theseg guys haven’t had a team stick with them, and tell them what is expected of them the next year, and give them their “homework” for the offseason. Look at the wonders it did for Meeks.

      • Daryl Peek

        Agreed. I’m saying Marshall should not be back but he must adapt if he plans to stick.

        • Kenneth Simkins

          The Lakers might keep him because they can get him on team option cheap! Depends on who else they can get to play point for one or 2 years that might be better!

    • hookedonnews

      I don’t know why D’Antoni chose to keep Marshall out there. Maybe because he’s the better passer. In the past Marshall has been good about taking care of the ball, but he wasn’t doing that yesterday. Farmar is certainly the better defender and shooter. Maybe Farmar was tired. Marshall only played about 25 minutes. Whatever the reason I’m glad we survived it and won the game.

      • Daryl Peek

        Actually KM’s turnovers have been fairly high all season but I can’t hold that against the youngster given the constant line up changes. Farmar had only played about 21 minutes in the game so I highly doubt fatigue was an issue. Questionable decision given how hot Jordan was IMO.

        • hookedonnews

          I have to admit I haven’t kept up with KM’s turnover stats. I just knew he was really good in that department when he first arrived. Of course, he was shooting 3′s well also, and that has also gone south. I can only speculate that MDA thinks Marshall is better at running the offense than Farmar. He has said that he starts Marshall because they get better ball movement when he’s playing, but he’s also said that whoever is playing best will be on the floor in the 4th quarter. I understand why you question the decision. I’m just glad it didn’t cost us the game.

          • Daryl Peek

            Agreed. The win was all that mattered and was an awesome feeling for a change.

  • LakersHeatBeef

    The Lakers played their hearts out on the floor today.People must be delusional to think this team is just tanking or whatever.This is a team that plays with all the pride in the world.The team record is bad but the players are trying like crazy to win games every time they play.

    The team is full of injuries the coach had his hands tied all season long with little to no talent on the floor defensively.Jodie Meeks is a interesting player he is a huge prospect that needs to be seriously evaluated by the Lakers FO since he is playing like he was in his days as a star at Kentucky.Kent Bazemore is quickly becoming one of my favorite Lakers,this Bazemore kid must be re-signed he plays some of the best defense i have ever seen and he was 2 time NCAA Defensive Player Of The Year for a damn good reason and we are seeing it now as he is blossoming into one of the best young players in the NBA.

    Kent Bazemore is scoring and playing excellent off the dribble and his jump shot is looking damn good,he is a all pro defensive player IMO.Anyone talking crap about the Bazemore kid is just jealous and hating,Bazemore is the real deal i guarantee it.Kent Bazemore plays similar to Marcus Smart IMO that’s a huge compliment to Marcus Smart actually.The Lakers won we beat the Thunder.Hell ya.Lakers Pride Forever.Lets move in on the Thunder next game tear them up!

    #Lakers Gang!

    • Dragon7s

      Tough to decide which I like better, the Lakers winning or them in it to the end but losing so they are higher in the draft.
      A good shot at a top draft pick is essential to the team’s success with the restrictions that the new CBA puts on teams but damn it’s good to see the Lakers win!

      • michael

        no tanking is bad. You may get one good draft, but your team gets a “losing mentality”. That’s the worst that could happen.

        • Daryl Peek

          I see you’re understanding now. Good shit! LOL

          • Dragon7s

            You obviously didn’t read my post in context.

          • Daryl Peek

            I didn’t insinuate you were condoning tanking. I was addressing the guy who’s posted tanks in the past but seems to now understand the true long term effect of accepting and promoting that mindset in a premeditated fashion.

        • Dragon7s

          Hence my prefacing it by saying “them in it to the end”.
          Losing sucks and begets more losing but when the team is competitive it keeps guys on edge and wanting to win.
          I would never condone teams/players losing on purpose, i.e. tanking. smh

      • Kay Carter

        who you suggest we get??? bkuz i dont see no draftee that can help make an impact for this team, even if we land Love in 15′

    • Jim213

      lol.. aka lakers tank commander smh

      • Dragon7s

        Not sure whether you are a Laker fan or a Clipper troll.
        Leaning toward Clipper troll tbh.

        • Jim213

          Smh, keep it real and from some of the regulars that post here one can tell at times when they assume aliases to go against their prior post. No diss tho but I’m not going to be pissed at the Clipps (since you brought them up) for what they’ve done with their brand. They have a long way to go to catch up to us but the condition of the Lakers is a serious problem.

          A coach who negates to utilize his full roster, players inconsistencies, and FO’s moves that have left the team in a mediocre state but with that said once the season is over they have a good opportunity to help turn things around by picking up a good prospective player come draft time and acquiring some good role players for the starting rotation while worrying about bringing in another star in 2015.

          • Kay Carter

            Gotta agree, clippers have made their team better with Paul nd Griffen as stars with a great supporting cast….something FO needs to look at nd see what kinda 1-2 punch we need for this team….and which players will fit for them

          • Jim213

            Gonna be honest but back in the Sports Arena days (young, myself) was given FREE tickets (I repeat free tickets) to a few clipp games as the seats where all the way in the back. Been to the Sports Arena less than 5 times and the only celebrity that I remember seeing there was Kadeem Hardison (hardcore fan, i guess) tho believe Billy crystal is a die hard.

            Felt bad then a now for this franchise who’s also representing LA. But now that their fortunes? may possibly have turned I look forward to watching the Lakers play them once FO gets their heads together to place a competitive REPRESENTING COMPETITIVE team on the floor as before no it’s and buts about Laker way especially after getting the beat down this past week. Should’ve never happened but given the roster and lack of D all we can do is #rollwithit

          • Kay Carter

            i remember seeing something about clippers use to give out free tickets lol 4got where…..but yeah, Clippers have turned around a poor franchise team to a good one, maybe great (i hope not) even have some fake Lakers fans switch up smh…….

            it’ll be nice when we finally have a good squad again nd play the Clippers nd really see who runs L.A. but yeah we can only accept that lost smh

      • e3bonz

        2-3 for March…

        • Jim213

          Next 3, vs Thunder and Spurs.

          • e3bonz

            I say…maybe they can pull out another win in the next three. OKC is going to want revenge, and will be playing a lot harder at home. Spurs you’re it.

          • Jim213

            It’ll have to be when they play @ Staples (Spurs) tho looks doubtful since the Spurs seem to be playing better aside of having their star players in good shape for the playoffs. No back to back on this one too.

  • hoperhetoric

    Credit too to Westbrook! I think maybe his parents are tired of the Lakers blow out losses, so they ask him… Westbrook committed a lot of turnovers when the Thunder are starting to blow the Lakers in 2ndth. Then At 4th quarter when the thunder are closing, He take over with consecutive jump shots!
    But Great effort by the Lakers! Im sure if sacre came in in the 2nd half, lakers will lost! We need scoring not just defense! Sacre can’t command double teams yet to free up the lakers shooters…

    • Daniel

      Oklahoma played thinking it was a piece of cake, until the last 5 minutes, when they realized lakers had one of those lucky nights. If OK had played the second half as the last 5 minutes, no way we would have won.
      Same thing happened the other day with Portland.
      I thinks some of these guys can be part of a good lakers bench for next year, but to be competitive, we need 3-4 big time starters.

  • michael

    Great game, great defense. Sadly we wont make the play offs, but we could be a play off contender next year. A good one.
    We don’t need #1 draft, we have to get back winning atmosphere. Playing with heart. Farmar, meeks, Bazemore, young and pau have to come back next season. With a healthy kobe and nash (yeah he is still good), a good pick (we will get one anyway, even without tanking) and maybe (unlikely) one talented free agent, we are back in business

  • Daryl Peek

    Quiet as kept, Ryan Kelly is a very good defender when he gets PT. Ryan defends the rim pretty good in help D and moves his feet well both in the PNR and recognizing when to slide over in help taking charges.

    • e3bonz

      RK is getting more aggressive on the defensive end, and not losing his confidence when his shots don’t fall.

      • Daryl Peek

        Rookie progression. I like what the kid brings to the table. Solid Duke fundamentals are always good rotational role players on the NBA level.

  • e3bonz

    Offense “and” defense played today. I’ll still stand by what I said about keeping most of these guys, it takes time to build a team.

    • Daryl Peek

      Agreed.

  • Jim213

    FO should’ve given D Fish a memento or something for his effort/services to the franchise being this was his last game at Staples.

  • truth24

    Because Meeks had 42 points everyone is ecstatic . Morons Lakers got lucky and Meeks is a weak defender Brooks has family in LA I believe the Thunder did not really care for this game although they tried coming back too late. They did not really put any effort in the first half. Lakers still garbage with what they have. And stop saying to resign sacre, bazemore, brooks, marshall. What the fuck we might as well sign all d league guys

    • Jim213

      Just a few of these dudes being the ones who play D!. B/c FO ain’t going to kick them all out. I’ve posted my preferred players for next season IMO.

  • Sylvia Ross

    Jodie, I an so happy for you. I have been one of your supporters from the beginning. I wish you much continued success.

  • http://www.haveslot.com/ richard

    hahahahahaha…. WHY WHY WHY?????!!!!!??? Did we win????!!!???… isn’t we suppose to lose this game???!!!!??? WHY?????

  • Mac25

    JM – solid rotation guy. Knows his role. Has play consistently well all season. Key is what does he do outside on MDA system – thinking that MDA is gone after this year. See him as a good backup for a couple of years and reasonable price. And he can stretch the floor.

  • hookedonnews

    Meeks started with a bad preseason and has played well from the start of the season until now. He’s has broadened his offensive game this season. I can’t even count the number of missed layups in transition last season. He’s much better offensively and is a tenacious defender. I hope he stays in LA because he’s a definite asset on both ends of the floor.

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