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After a harsh blow out loss to the Oklahoma City Thunder last night, the Lakers have to deal with a Charlotte Bobcats squad on the second end of a back-to-back. The Lakers have not fared well on the end of a back-to-backs under Mike D’Antoni, and recent comments made by Pau Gasol has brought new life to the Gasol trade rumors. Gasol made comments that D’Antoni wasn’t utilizing Gasol in the post enough to maximize his effectiveness. After those comments were made, D’Antoni fired back at Pau, thus starting speculation for new trade rumors.

Look for Bryant to play at the point again tonight. He’ll need to turn down the turnovers and keep his assist numbers up.

Even with rumors spinning around, Gasol is not letting any distractions keeping him from giving a full effort in tonights game.

Rumors are starting to speculate all over the place with different teams and potential player swaps, but these rumors have been going on for years. Pau Gasol has been nothing but a true professional when it comes to dealing with these rumors.
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VIDEO: Here’s What Kobe Bryant Recently Said About Pau Gasol


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  • LakersHeatBeef

    Lakers are trading Pau Gasol???

  • LakersHeatBeef

    I hope Pau Gasol gets traded.He is in need of a change of scenery.Trade please.

    • Dragon7s

      I think you’ve hit the nail on the head.
      Like most partnerships (and marriages?), things come to a head and it becomes time for both parties to move on.

      In Pau’s case, it’s time…both for him and the Lakers.

  • Mikey Mora

    Wish Pau would get traded.. but i doubt it’ll happen.. and if it does we won’t get much.. unless we give up draft picks which really really hope we don’t do!!

    • bird

      We don’t have a Draft pick until 2045 no worries

  • Bill T.

    Pau Gasol is about to fake a injury in 3,2,1 just to not get traded.#Fake Injury.

  • Jim213

    Obvious after his comments, especially for the salary he’s receiving. But aside of that if the coach doesn’t place the correct rotation on the floor while accommodating the bigs inside (tweaking his style a little) then he should get canned down the line.

    • Jim213

      • Dragon7s

        And from the opposite prespective….

    • Daryl Peek

      IMO MDA has already tweaked his style. Jordan Hill, Kaman and Sacre on the floor with Gasol shows this. MDA has the tools to run small ball but often defers to twin towers with non stretch 4′s.

      Gasol’s low post failures are solely on him.

      • Jim213

        Agree, but given his constant rotations inside while bringing in Kaman who could’ve helped in some close losses (shooting) while giving S Williams 30+ seems he’s stubborn at times.

        • Daryl Peek

          I can’t be mad at him for that. It’s a double edged sword. Williams has shown hes a much better defender than both Kaman and Gasol most of the time. None of our big’s have been consistent.

          The Kaman theme is a head scratcher? I’d like to see him on the court more but if so therein goes the minutes consistency quandary between the Big’s on minutes distribution. MDA can’t win…

          • Dragon7s

            “MDA can’t win….”
            Some people will misconstrue that before the night is out but you’re exactly right.
            He’s damned if he does and damned if he doesn’t.

            MDA needs to put the most effective defenders on the floor to start the game.
            The Lakers can score, no doubt about that, but if they want PT, they need to show they are willing to play D.

          • Daryl Peek

            Yeah I thought about the Pun that will come from that win comment LOL. Many will be dead serious in their pun tho

      • Dragon7s

        Thank you!

        MDA has done an incredible job adjusting to the roster that he’s been given to work with.

        Early last season, he was immovable, but to his credit he’s adjusted..admirable IMO.

        Dunno why people keep bashing MDA when what he’s done with what he’s been given to work with defies incredulity.

        For those that are calling for MDA to be fired, who of the available coaches would you hire? And why?

        • Joseph Apohen

          I totally agree with you. For the hand he’s dealt, he has done a remarkable job. Too bad we lost Farmar and Blake because I think we would’ve a better record. Kobe has done an incredible job in leading the team, after all this is only his preseason. He played well tonight against Charlotte and Gasol played well in the fourth quarter after Kobe got on his case. I think Pau needs someone to light his fire and Kobe is the master at that.

      • hookedonnews

        Agree 100%.

  • Anne from WV

    Every time something happens, poor ole Pau gets the blame. It’s a wonder that he even wants to play for the Lakers. Who will they blame after he is traded???
    Anne from WV

    • Dragon7s

      Pau made his bed and now it’s his time to lie in it.

      It’s not about ‘every time something happens’…it’s about effort, sacrifice.
      And despite Kobe’s example, Pau’s not shown he’s willing to make the sacrifices necessary to play at the elite level in the NBA….sorry.
      Great guy, former great player, now only ‘good’ :(

  • chocolate8175

    I’ll take Chandler, please. Love Pau but I can’t defend him anymore

  • Daryl Peek

    I’d pull the trigger on a Chandler trade with a quickness. Tyson could fix many current problems

    • Dragon7s

      Sorry, I don’t see Chandler fitting in either…esp. after playing in NY.
      Keep in mind that NBA players are only human and as such, are subject to the same human influences as the rest of us.

      It’s one thing to be a sports star in OKC, it’s completely another to be one in NY/LA and I think that Chandler has been a changed man since he went to NY (and not in a good way).

      • Daryl Peek

        Have you looked at his numbers? The Lakers need a low block rim protector. Tyson is D12 without the low post touches ego. he’d be a God send IMO!

        • Dragon7s

          Have you looked at his numbers?
          MDA’s system requires that his C can rebound and pass.
          Chandler can rebound, no doubt but he turns the ball over twice as much as he assists (ok, stats can be skewed but being honest, Chandler is simply a body on offense…that might work in MDA’s system but not ideal).

          Defensively, he seems to be picking up where he left off two seasons ago but that’s a very small sample size and I have a hard time believing that he’ll keep that pace up.

          Is he an upgrade over Pau in MDA’s system? Defensively yes. Offensively, hardly.

          With MDA’s system, we need to get younger (as in Monroe younger. Adding TC doesn’t really accomplish that.

          I could be wrong and TC bounces back from his injury but history tells us that big men have a harder time coming back from a leg injury.

          Bold prediction: TC in his 6th game back from injury sits due to swelling….and only mediocre after that as the Knicks keep playing him despite his injury.

          Aging, esp. in the NBA is a bitch which is why Kobe’s longevity in this day and age is so amazing.

          • Daryl Peek

            Ask yourself, does this team and the D’Antoni system really need a scoring center?

            As far as injury goes, who knows? Pau is injured right now also.

            Tyson will give you constant effort as a slightly more overall skilled version of Jordan Hill/Sacre. D’Antoni’s system absolutely needs that energy offensively. His lack of offensive refinement matters not if he can maintain that level of hustle.

            His defensive prowess would be priceless. Chandler is a PNR big. Kobe and other will feed off his energy and make up for his lack of offense. Tyson would allow Kobe to be our post up threat. You can’t measure the importance of that.

          • Dragon7s

            I think you missed my point…I never said MDA’s system needs an Off. C.

            And I also think you misread (or I didn’t make clear) that TC wouldn’t be an upgrade to Pau.

            I simple meant that I don’t think that TC is a major upgrade to Pau, all things considered.

          • Daryl Peek

            OK, I think he’s a major upgrade due to the fit. He would instantly make team chemistry better IMO. His defense outweighs any offensive loss.

          • Dragon7s

            Sorry, just been playing devil’s advocate here but I agree, TC is a major upgrade.

            Just don’t see it happening, esp. given Dolan’s schizophrenia.

          • Daryl Peek

            Would be a dumb trade on their part but Mitch could steal him as a salary dump given Pau is an expiring contract.

          • Dragon7s

            Trust me (or not) but Mitch has an ace or two up his sleeve to make a move.
            Why do you think he signed all of those former ‘lottery’ picks?

            He’s been highlighting them as trade bait.
            Let’s see if anyone bites. ;)

          • Joseph Apohen

            Everyone here is talking only of Tyson. I think he is aging and I don’t think overall he is not that great although he did make the Olympic team. Nobody talks of Noah with that ugly hair bun of his, but here’s a guy who would die just to get the rebound and play defense. Of all the centers I have never seen a center who hustles more. With Kobe back, I think we’ll see a different Gasol as Kobe will kick his us. He just need tol get motivated to ket out of his lethargic play. He was a very good player, and I think he could still be.

          • Zimmeredge

            every system requires a strong, efficient and reliable inside presence.
            spacing the floor starts at the rim. if you can’t score inside you won’t be able to score outside.

          • Daryl Peek

            PNR Zim. Tyson will provide that Jordan Hill PNR energy which will be the inside presence. Think about the Heat, who’s their dominate post up presence? They run the D’Antoni system.

          • Zimmeredge

            i don’t care about the Heat… and i thing they are very present inside eventhough they are not a good rebounding team.
            we do not own a player of that quality.
            what’s possible is… Love or Boozer, Stoud even big al can be a great player in this system.
            I love Chandler but the only thing that he’ll bring is rim protection. offensively he none existant and that’s not possible for our system.

          • Daryl Peek

            You don’t have to care about the Heat, that was not the intent of the reference. Short sighted on your part to think offense over Tyson’s defensive prowess IMO.

            Keep in mind Tyson was on fire in NY under D’Antoni during the Linsanity era. Chandler absolutely fits the D’Antoni system.

            Love would be awesome! Bozzer? HELL NO!

          • Zimmeredge

            Noah would be great too. I love his agressivity, his heart and dedication.
            At this point I think every laker fans are dreaming about Kevin Love.
            But that was two years ago now Tyson chandler is 31yo. :(

          • Daryl Peek

            Love would be 1A. I highly doubt Minny lets him walk or trades him. Chandler would be a steal in a Gasol trade. With Blake and Farmar coming back he could help us make noise IMO.

          • Zimmeredge

            well you’re right we would have to put a lot of people (Gasol + someone else) in order to get him. But, him personnally, i don’t think he’ll stay much longer in minny. Next season (even the current season) will be a decisive one for them to keep Love in Minny. If they can’t make it to the playoff they will try to trade him because Love won’t stay over there if he can’t make it to the play off so he’ll be a fa in 15.

          • Daryl Peek

            Keep in mind K. Love does not have a player option til the 15-16 season. Minny has him locked up for the next two seasons.

          • Zimmeredge

            Fa 15 or 16?
            i thought it was a player option?

          • Daryl Peek

            His player option is not available til the 15-16 season, which means he can’t opt out til then

  • Sylvia Ross

    I think it is so unfair to keep blaming Pau. Pau, was fine until d’antoni came along doesn’t it seem funny that d’antoni can’t coach superstars? The younger guys on the team know better than to say anything or else they will also be on the trading blocks. If Pau is traded I wish him the best and do hope that he can find happiness with his new team. To have a coach chastise you in front of everyone is really horrible. Things will not get better until buss admits he made a mistake and he’s not going to do that.

    • Daryl Peek

      I’m sorry Sylvia, that’s not entirely true. Pau has been the whipping boy unjustly in the past but MDA is far from the bain of his Lakers existence. Pau has not produced since 2010-11 when he melted down in the playoffs. Remember Phil punching him in the chest? Pau needs to man up or go…

    • Dragon7s

      What you fail to realise Sylvia is that the players rarely know how best to play within the team concept (esp. at the most elite levels), otherwise why do we need coaches?
      I coached a team of really good athletes but they knew nothing of the strategy of the game. They thought that because they were superior athletes that they could simply overcome their opponent.
      Until they bought into why I had them playing in certain positions and fulfilling certain roles, we lost…and we lost a lot.
      After they accepted what I was trying to teach, we were undefeated.

      That’s the difference between >i<good and great teams.

    • ra

      Agreed, Sylvia. MDA’s system works best when there is an all-star PG at the helm (like Nash). Small-ball is fun and exciting, but won’t get you championships (certainly not with Lakers).

      And others out there don’t need to say that Miami played with a ‘small-ball system’ implemented by the Coach. Their coach is a non-factor. He is a ‘hands-off’ coach – it’s LBJ-ball. Just let LBJ run the show (that’s why Riley keeps Spoelstra around).

      MDA’s version of small-ball worked well with the 2006 Suns. Nash was surrounded by ‘gazelles’ who could outrun just about everyone. MDA’s system isn’t geared up for bigs. (oh yeah? remember 7 seconds + Shaq??). Lakers would never make it past Hibbert & his team. Heat just ‘barely’ made it past the Pacers last year, and barely made it past the Spurs. Their victories were not ‘decisive’. They barely escaped being ousted in the 2nd round, and the Finals.

      Wait till next year. We’ll see what happens then. This year is a wash (just like last year). There’s too much conflict (Gasol? MDA? really?) where there doesn’t need to be.

      Only trade that possibly works is Pau for Love. Ricky Rubio would have his partner, and Love would be back in LA.

      I did always think that Chandler was an exceptional player, but he did best with … yes …….. Chris Paul. That was a dynamite combination. I don’t think we’d quite have that here, but you never know. Boozer would be more of a liability, and more “Bosh-like” in the state of his game. We would probably see Boozer ‘standing there’ while others shoot.

      Other ‘impossible’ trades would be Pau for Noah. Pau for Cousins. Ain’t gonna happen. Pau for Hibbert? Pacers would never do that.

      This whole thing is distressing. Just let the team, as is, as the FO carefully crafted it in the wake of the departure of Dr. Jerry Buss, remain the way it is currently. Let the rest of the year play out.

      When you start replacing parts in and out, during the year, you do two things: 1) disrupt the potential chemistry of the existing team. 2) sabotage future trades, deals, esp. off-season. It ‘rarely’ works out. But it did work once! When we ‘got’ Pau Gasol from the Grizzlies! That’s it.

      Let it be. STFU, and wait till next year. Leave Gasol alone.

    • Danny E. Pagan

      have u seen a game this season? He’s taken the same shots he has always taken. The stats are there. He is shooting most of his shots from inside the paint. Pau is just in denial and blames D’Antoni but if you watch the games you will see that he is shooting most of his shots from 8 feet or less from the basket. Also his main problem is 1 on 1 defense. He just can’t guard anyone anymore. Guys either bully him inside, go around him for dunks, or out run him on fast breaks for even more dunks. Gasol is no longer elite and teams will want him for the expiring contract but not as a guy they would want to sign to be their starting center next season. He’s at that point Allen Iverson was in his last couple of seasons where teams wanted him to come off the bench and he still believed he was the man and blamed the coaching staff for his poor play.

      • Danny E. Pagan

        It’s pretty clear to me that if they fire D’Antoni, Gasol is not going to all of a sudden turn into a good defender and shoot a higher percentage.

        • Daryl Peek

          PREACH

    • Joseph Apohen

      I disagree with your assessment that MDA is Pau’s undoing. MDA did not start that. IMO it started with PJ during the Mavs sweep of the Lakers in the 2010 playoff. Pau supposedly had girl problem and the excuse was that it affected his play. If you remember, it looks lilke PJ was chastising Pau and he even poked him on the chest in front ot the national tv to try and wake him up because his man was manhandling him. In the fourth quarter of the Charlotte game he looked like the old Gasol. Hopefully that might be the beginning of his return. I like Pau and hopefully he returns to what he used to be or at least close to it.

  • laker77

    Rondo please.

  • Daryl Peek

    Watching the game right now, Pau is being a bit more aggressive but it’s futile so far… 1-6 from the field. We just can’t have that folks!

    • Dragon7s

      And the band played on…..

      Been harping on this awhile but Pau, despite being Kobe’s ‘brother’ just doesn’t have the same commitment that Kobe does.

      Curious to say the least, sad mostly.

      • Daryl Peek

        Sad indeed. I hate this reality, I like Pau as a Laker but we need better production.

    • Danny E. Pagan

      I know man, but hey lets blame D’antoni!

    • Danny E. Pagan

      2nd half started and Pau and his hustle and energy taking over the game! …for the Bobcats

      • Daryl Peek

        blank stare

    • Zimmeredge

      it’s D’antoni’s fault! ;)

      • Daryl Peek

        Nope LOL

        • Zimmeredge

          i was being ironic bro :)

          • Daryl Peek

            I know

          • Danny E. Pagan

            finally a couple of good defensive possessions by Pau after being killed the whole game! Maybe D’Antoni is right after all and the talent is there but he is just not playing hard at times.

          • Zimmeredge

            we are very very very lucky to win this ball game…

          • Daryl Peek

            Agreed

          • Daryl Peek

            Yeah but big picture, efforts like tonight is one of the reasons I now want Gasol traded. (sigh) Kobe is too loyal to him and it will continue to disrupt to total focus of the team working the system. Kobe is sacrificing players like Meeks and others trying to get gasol kick started. I’m over the coddling man! Pau is a ten plus year NBA vet. I still believe he has gas left in the tank but I’m just thoroughly disgusted with the mental weakness. Why does Kobe have to continue to kick him in the ass to produce?
            Take Gasol off the team Kobe’s more likely to flow with the others and the fighting team chemistry will come back.

  • hookedonnews

    You people are just trying to create a story where there isn’t one. D’Antoni’s remarks about Gasol have been taken out of context and made to appear more harsh than they actually were. I didn’t realize it myself until I read the article in the LA Times. Stop stirring up trouble just to get a headline.

    • ra

      I agree with this most of all. There’s no real ‘discussion’ about Pau in the ‘real world’, just in this ‘virtual world’. A few … and yes ‘few’ comments drives a whole discussion like this?

      A comment or two, and it drives a whole multi-million dollar franchise to turn upside down? Not likely. Major moves aren’t made ‘on the fly’ because of a few comments. Trades don’t happen every week, or every other week, or every other month. Teams stay together for a while, and then the ‘overall picture’ is evaluated. A string of performance issues does not drive major $$ decisions.

      We may see something at trade deadline, or mid-Feb. Or after April (yeah, that’s guessing that the Lakers don’t make it to playoffs, or to 1st round at most).

      But … “Pau has a bad few games — let’s trade him” ?????? ridiculous. Or, “he’s not trying hard enough” … really? How do we know what goes on in the court. The offense doesn’t run through Pau, and so ‘of course’ we won’t see high numbers. If the offense ran through Pau, then he would have higher numbers, better percentages, etc.

      Let’s just let this go.

  • JR

    j2

  • pauistheman

    hahaa boozer for pau? downgrade
    trade dantoni for a point guard lol

  • pauistheman

    coach is the main problem. dantoni doesn’t respect pau.
    pau has 3 finals – straight & 2 rings.
    if u put duncan near the 3 point line all the time, what do u think will happen to tim? the lakers look good when they’re hitting their shots, but when they miss, nothing happens. why not use gasol in his comfort zone and mix it with 3 pt shooting at the same time? dantoni just doesn’t know how to use a low post player. (He needs an amare/griffin kind of player) if u can remember, during the last finals olympics, pau was eating love, chandler etc
    sad to say,it is time. its better for pau to leave than mistreated this way.
    he is a true champ in & out of the game.
    a TRUE CLASS ACT-PROFESSIONAL-HUMAN BEING.
    #pure Pau Gasol fan-forever

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