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#1 LALakersFan4Life

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Posted 05 August 2012 - 12:38 PM

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By Sean Deveney Sporting News

LONDON – If you listened long enough to the postgame discussions going on around Team USA’s 99-94 victory over Lithuania here at Olympic Park on Saturday, you might have gotten the idea that this is exactly how coach Mike Krzyzewski drew things up. In the tunnel near the court, players were talking about the benefits of a tight game, the way that trailing with seven minutes to play and having to fend off a determined and experienced opponent will prove beneficial down the line.

Coming on the heels of Thursday’s monumental win over Nigeria, the thinking goes, the U.S. needed to be backed into a corner. As LeBron James said, “For us as competitors, we want to have a test game. We feel like any team can be beaten in this tournament and if you don’t come out and prepare the right way, and play the right way, you can be beaten. Lithuania gave us a great game.”

Thank you for that, Lithuania. Certainly, the team played great, carried by 7-for-16 shooting from the 3-point line and 25 points from NBAer Linas Kleiza. Lithuania’s resolve was impressive, their offense was precise and their experience was well on display.

The notion of preferring this kind of tense back-and-forth, though? Come on. Most of what the Americans did wrong had more to do with their approach to the game. Let’s stick with what Krzyzewski said after: “I think we’re better off having won this and going through it, but while the game is going on, any coach would want to be up by double-digits, lighting a cigar, you know, with your legs kicked back.”

As well as Lithuania played, there is no way they should have been able to hang with Team USA for so long—the Americans have superior talent up front and far more depth on the roster. What happened on Saturday was not just a post-Nigeria reminder about the perils of the tournament, but a real revelation of shortcomings that the U.S. needs to be better about covering up.

First, they were terrible defensively. Lithuania scored 94 points despite going to the free-throw line just 15 times (the U.S. went 31 times) and despite committing 23 turnovers. Lithuania shot 58.5 percent from the field, plucking the American defense with pick-and-rolls and well-executed cuts to the basket. Lithuania played most of the game without a center, but still, a whopping 50 of their points came in the paint.

“We got to do a better job of communicating,” James said. “At times, we did. But you have to, defensively, in order to read and react to certain situations, you have to talk things through. If we’re switching or we’re guarding the pick-and-roll or we’re bumping guys into the paint, we gotta do a better job of talking that through, which we will. We have done it in the past. We can do it. We’ll watch film and we’ll get better at it.”

This is one of the tangential points to be made about Team USA’s lack of big men—one thing that center Tyson Chandler is known for is his ability to organize his teammates defensively. But in seeking to create mismatches on the offensive end, Krzyzewski played Chandler only 8:04, leaving the team not only without its only real rim-protector, but without its best communicator.

It’s something the U.S. was able to survive on Saturday, but something they clearly need to clean up, quickly. “They made a lot of shots,” said point guard Chris Paul. “They just executed their offense. They set ball-screens and they rolled, Darius Songaila got into the paint, but we’ve gotta do a better job of communicating defensively and we gotta talk better.”

The other major problem seems to come at the offensive end, and it is something that Team USA can fix with a mental adjustment—and in that respect, maybe the close Lithuania result was not such a bad thing. In the first three games, the Americans have cruised and, in doing so, have almost treated their offense as if it were an All-Star game. Everyone wants to make the trick pass, everyone wants to find the hot hand, everyone wants to prove that they don’t care too much about their own stats.

That’s fine if you’re winning by 30. But Team USA needs to be smarter about its shots, and Krzyzewski has been emphasizing that point to his players.

“I think we overpass at times,” Krzyzewski said. “Some of that had to do with—when is camaraderie sometimes a bad thing? We have great spirit and great togetherness. You saw how happy they were when Carmelo (Anthony) was hitting his shots or Kevin Durant was hitting his shots. They almost want those two guys to get the ball and shoot, so I think they’re not shooting sometimes in their normal flow. I think that was part of it a little bit. Our guys just have to, I have said it a number of times, just shoot. Shoot your normal shots.”

They haven’t needed to do that in the Olympics yet because they’ve been so far ahead every time out. Lithuania is a good team, but in the coming week, there is a far better chance that the U.S. will be trailing in the fourth quarter against the likes of Russia, Spain or France. They might not be able to hold off those teams in late-game situations.

They did manage the win here against the Lithuanians. But they’ve also showed some obvious bad habits they’ve already developed.

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Posted 05 August 2012 - 02:00 PM

View PostLALakersFan4Life, on 05 August 2012 - 12:38 PM, said:


IDK you can say that OLYMPIC teams are just more competitive now than in the past, or you can argue that the defensive intensity and communication was lacking. In the end this team USA is just not that good. They've already shown that they don't match up well with certain teams. The offense is sporadic at best and relies too much on three shooting.

I think it's time to play with some focus instead of arrogantly assuming that the fundamentals can be thrown out the window. Coach K is being generous when he says that there may have been over passing or poor shot selection. Getting abused in the P&R the way team USA was is simply unforgivable. I'm glad they won but I am not a fan of the lame ass excuses for not being prepared. Or ADJUSTING.

Anything short of a GOLD medal will be an embarrassment. Now I wonder if this team has enough discipline to play at the level we all expect.

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Posted 05 August 2012 - 03:14 PM

View PostLordoftherings, on 05 August 2012 - 02:00 PM, said:

IDK you can say that OLYMPIC teams are just more competitive now than in the past, or you can argue that the defensive intensity and communication was lacking. In the end this team USA is just not that good. They've already shown that they don't match up well with certain teams. The offense is sporadic at best and relies too much on three shooting.

I think it's time to play with some focus instead of arrogantly assuming that the fundamentals can be thrown out the window. Coach K is being generous when he says that there may have been over passing or poor shot selection. Getting abused in the P&R the way team USA was is simply unforgivable. I'm glad they won but I am not a fan of the lame ass excuses for not being prepared. Or ADJUSTING.

Anything short of a GOLD medal will be an embarrassment. Now I wonder if this team has enough discipline to play at the level we all expect.

kobe's play is not making you look good..   tight game and it's lebron to the rescue..  he's supposed to be a leader on this team.  instead, he has another horrible shooting day going 1-7.  he shouldn't even be on this team.  he's taking minutes away from players that actually care...
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Posted 05 August 2012 - 04:07 PM

View PostHayter, on 05 August 2012 - 03:14 PM, said:

kobe's play is not making you look good..   tight game and it's lebron to the rescue..  he's supposed to be a leader on this team.  instead, he has another horrible shooting day going 1-7.  he shouldn't even be on this team.  he's taking minutes away from players that actually care...

The entire team was an embarrassment. All of the excuses were ridiculous. The operative word is team. Continually laying the blame on KOBE for the continued lax play of the entire team is ridiculous. Team USA got outworked in P&R no matter how you try to lay it on one individual the points in the paint is  devastating proof of just how weak team USA is at center.

There are a few players that have no business on team USA. Like CHANDLER, HARDEN, and DAVIS.

KOBE's shooting woes doesn't excuse the 50 points given up in the paint. It was the bs defensive effort that made that game close.

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Posted 05 August 2012 - 05:57 PM

Maybe I am being tough on kobe since it is a team effort and since I haven’t watched any of the games but is there anyone playing worse than him on team USA?  

You can complain about chandler, harden and davis  if you think kobe should be lumped in a lower tier group with them.  I, personally, expect more from him.

I can’t remember who was being interviewed last week, but someone reputable was asked, “who’s team is this?”.  He said it’s lebron and kobe’s team.  Kobe’s the proven veteran so it’s his team and since lebron now has a ring, he’s been given the role of being the team leader.  Is this the type of play you want from your team leader?  The only time he’s showed up to play was in a 83pt blow out game..
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Posted 05 August 2012 - 07:18 PM

View PostHayter, on 05 August 2012 - 05:57 PM, said:

Maybe I am being tough on kobe since it is a team effort and since I haven’t watched any of the games but is there anyone playing worse than him on team USA?  

You can complain about chandler, harden and davis  if you think kobe should be lumped in a lower tier group with them.  I, personally, expect more from him.

I can’t remember who was being interviewed last week, but someone reputable was asked, “who’s team is this?”.  He said it’s lebron and kobe’s team.  Kobe’s the proven veteran so it’s his team and since lebron now has a ring, he’s been given the role of being the team leader.  Is this the type of play you want from your team leader?  The only time he’s showed up to play was in a 83pt blow out game..
LOL, what's worse is that he only played like 16 minutes on that blowout. XD

Anyway, what I believe is that communication on defense really would help this team greatly. This team plays small, and that makes the team even more one-dimensional offensively. To compensate for this, they need all their efforts and focus to really be on defense. That's why we keep seeing this team switching and applying pressure all the time. It's keeping them ahead against weaker teams, but this might not be effective against the more cohesive teams that clearly have game plans against them. Lithuania had one, and they executed it perfectly. They just fell short.

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Posted 05 August 2012 - 09:16 PM

View PostHayter, on 05 August 2012 - 05:57 PM, said:

Maybe I am being tough on kobe since it is a team effort and since I haven’t watched any of the games but is there anyone playing worse than him on team USA?  

You can complain about chandler, harden and davis  if you think kobe should be lumped in a lower tier group with them.  I, personally, expect more from him.

I can’t remember who was being interviewed last week, but someone reputable was asked, “who’s team is this?”.  He said it’s lebron and kobe’s team.  Kobe’s the proven veteran so it’s his team and since lebron now has a ring, he’s been given the role of being the team leader.  Is this the type of play you want from your team leader?  The only time he’s showed up to play was in a 83pt blow out game..

KOBE is one player and regardless of the success or failures of any one player team USA will not be successful unless they play lockdown defense. We've already been over this and I told you long ago that there would be erratic play from all of the players. That has been the case. Just as I told you long ago that team USA must rely on their collective defense to be successful. You ridiculed that idea when I told you that was the key to being successful. NOW more than ever that fact has been made evident. If team USA can not defend the P&R they will struggle.

As for top tier or bottom tier... That's simply some bs that applies to a fantasy basketball league. All of team USA's players are capable  world class players. The role as leader for any player is to bring continuity to the team. Neither LEBRON, KOBE or anyone else did so. The idea that leadership will somehow overcome confusion and a lack of execution defensively for the collective team is bs. Team USA got worked, outsmarted outhustled and for a good deal of the game outplayed.

The whole team should take responsibility not LEBRON, not KOBE. Coach K needs to remind the players that fucking around and not being in position is a recipe for disaster. I mean seriously how many times does a team have to be beaten by P&R before taking it away? The bigs need to play like bigs and the guards have to bring help. All of this bs about test games and wake up calls is not going to remedy the deer in the headlights look on defenders faces because they don't know their responsibilities.




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