Hayter, on 27 April 2012 - 03:35 PM, said:
Have you won 1 single argument in your life? You keep spewing out irrelevant stats but you don’t look at the overall picture.
So you’re saying that because he’s taller and longer that his stats mean less. Get out of here with your retarded and illogical way of thinking. So should they put an asterisk on his scoring title now cause he’s longer than everyone else?
You say some of the most retarded things in the history of message boards.
And you say kobe takes a lot more outside shots so they are lower percentage shots? OH REALLY? Where did you come up with this stat or is it something you made up again? Do you have all of their shot charts?
FYI kobe shot 287 3pt shots this year. KD shot 344 3 pt shots this here. You still think kobe shoots more outside shots than KD? Kobe shot 30.3% from 3pt land. KD shot 38.7%. that’s a whopping 8.4% higher while shooting 57 more 3’s.
i'm definitely not saying kd has a better career than kobe cause at one time kobe was the man. but if you could trade kobe for KD, right now, and you didn't do it, you'd be a effin fool.
I said your wrong 98% of the time. Here is the 2% that you are right. KD does not have the footwork or ball handling skills as kobe. But that’s irrelevant. He makes it for it by shooting a better fg% and getting more rebounds and blocking more shots. Don’t give me that crap about kobe playing defense. He gets it every year cause his name is kobe Bryant. And you’re forgetting another big stat, wins / losses.
Are you talking about 2 years ago when it was their first time in the playoffs? Really? How did kobe did his first time in the playoffs? Didn’t he airball twice in the clutch against Utah?
And remember when you said you hate it when you’re right. I have yet to see that happen. What happened to ramon sessions? Last night stu questioned how his production went down after the veterans asked him to slow down the ball. What did I say? I said it doesn’t matter who they get cause the balls going to go to kobe and everybody is going to clear out. How is any pg gonna make a team better when that is your offense? I guess that I won that on, eh?
And since you like to draw conclusions from small samples, I got one here for you. When kobe sat out from being injured, they went 5 -2 which is 71.4%. their current win % is 62.1%. hmmm. Should I be like you and draw an absolute conclusion from this stat? cause technically, you lost this argument too. When he was out, more players were involved, ball moved and they were playing team ball. But I guess that’s why you were nowhere around here during that time.
The next time you win an argument will be the first.
This is why I try to stay away from this site because of the arguing I do with either arguing about stuff that we are not in disagreement about or having arguments about basic reasoning and logic. I really want to start a community college fund to help you comprehend better.
As far as arguments on here I am currently have a 98.9 winning % on here. You will forever be known as the guy backing up Lebron James when me and others on the other site were telling you how he shrank and deferred in the big moments. Then last year’s finals happened. Good job knowing your stuff.
As far as me mentioning that Durant is longer and taller was just to point out the advantages that Durant has over Kobe. That doesn’t mean that his stats mean less, it means that his production and efficiency in terms of shooting and rebounding come by easier than Kobe.
With Durant’s wingspan he is basically a 7 footer. His release point on his shot is ½ a foot higher than Kobe. Therefore, its harder for guys to affect his shot. That goes for shots he takes anywhere on the court as well compared to Kobe.
Durant plays forward and is both taller and longer. He should get more rebounds than Kobe and any other 2 guard in the league.
That doesn’t take away from what Durant is doing. He’s a freak with his combination of his length, size, skill set and athleticism. Its why he is a prolific scorer and potentially one of the greats; that’s yet to be seen. He could end up being just a great scorer like a McGrady or Vince Carter but never one of the elites like a Kobe, Magic, Bird, etc. We’ll see.
You of course mention total 3 point shots taken so that you can make it seem as if Durant takes so many more 3s than Kobe. You conveniently forget to mention that Durant played in 8 more games than Kobe (66 games to 58 games).
My statement of Kobe taking more OUTSIDE SHOTS is a fact. Unlike you, I know my shit about the NBA. I don’t post incorrect statements.
Here is the break down on a per game basis:
Shots at the rim: 4.8, 72.2 %
Shots 3 to 9 feet: 2.1, 45.3 %
Shots 10-15 feet: 2.9, 39.5 %
Shots 16-23 feet: 4.7, 46.0 %
Shots from 3s: 5.2, 38.7 %
Shots at the rim: 3.5, 43.0 %
Shots 3 to 9 feet: 3.0, 42.6 %
Shots 10-15 feet: 3.8, 42.1 %
Shots 16-23 feet: 7.7, 41.0 %
Shots from 3s: 4.9, 30.3
(courtesy of Hoopsdata.com)
As you can see Kobe takes 16.4 shots per game from 10 feet +, Durant 12.8 per game.
All shots outside of layups/dunks its Kobe 19.4 and Durant 14.9.
So my statement that Kobe takes more outside shots is absolutely factual.
So if you’re not saying that Durant has had or will ever have as good as a career as Kobe what the hell are you arguing about? Im not saying Kobe is better than Durant now. Durant is 23 and reaching his prime. Kobe is 33, has 16 years in the league and past his prime. Despite that, Kobe is right there at the age of 33 and this is pretty damn impressive.