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Ex-NFL Star Jim Brown Is Not The Biggest Kobe Bryant Fan Reviewed by Momizat on . On Tuesday night, ex-NFL star running back Jim Brown made an appearance on The Arsenio Hall Show and was asked about the likes of Kobe Bryant, who has recently On Tuesday night, ex-NFL star running back Jim Brown made an appearance on The Arsenio Hall Show and was asked about the likes of Kobe Bryant, who has recently Rating: 0
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Ex-NFL Star Jim Brown Is Not The Biggest Kobe Bryant Fan

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Jim BrownOn Tuesday night, ex-NFL star running back Jim Brown made an appearance on The Arsenio Hall Show and was asked about the likes of Kobe Bryant, who has recently made his return to the NBA after tearing his Achilles tendon in April of this year.

Brown didn’t have the kindest words for Bryant as his first words about the Lakers superstar were, “He threw Shaq under the bus.” Brown has always been outspoken and thought about making a return to the NFL when Franco Harris was close to breaking his all-time rushing record because Brown didn’t like Harris’ running style.

Brown doesn’t seem particularly fond of the way Bryant has gone about handling conflict in the past, and has attributed Bryant’s way of going about things to his background, according to Yahoo! Sports.

“He is somewhat confused about culture because he was brought up in another country so it doesn’t quite fit (with) what’s happening in America.” [...]

“In the days when we had a summit and we called the top black athletes together to talk to Muhammad Ali about his status with the armed forces, there were some athletes we didn’t call. So if I had to call that summit all over, there would be some athletes I wouldn’t call. And Kobe would be one of them.”

Since retirement, Brown has appeared in multiple films and has founded the Amer-I-Can foundation to help inner-city youth in Los Angeles and Cleveland. While Brown admitted that he believes that he thinks Bryant is an unbelievable athlete, it’s clear that he isn’t a fan of Bryant off the floor.

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  • LakersHeatBeef

    Hug a tree Jim Brown.

  • Daryl Peek

    I have no problem with what Brown is saying. “I’m not a role model” –Charles Barkley

    Many are called but few are chosen, to each his own in the path they’ve been destined for… nobody can be you but you.

    • Paytc

      Exactly !

    • Albert Cruz

      Kobe did throw Shaq under the bus, everyone knows that.

      • Paytc

        That may be one view point. Now lets hear from the other side. Did Shaq have any responsibility in them not agreeing to calm their egos? I think one of them should have been the bigger man.

        Just like when Don Nelson had problems with a young Chris Webber and that situation didn’t work out.

        I always think someone should be the bigger man. And in my book I put a little more responsibility on the elder person. But then some kids remain children well into adulthood and never grow up.

        • Paytc

          Or some turn into control freaks with no give or flexibility.
          Those are usually the ones who are destined to head to divorce court. And having people undermine them behind their backs. Because they don’t know how to motivate people to follow without intimidation.

          • Paytc

            This was for some reason moved from the Shaq and Kobe conflict page? LN can you return it to the right page.

          • Paytc

            Oh my bad :-) This is the correct page. Jim Brown did decide to stir up the Shaq and Kobe conflict himself.

            Jim Brown you should know better than to stir up nonsense.

            I guess we will all do whatever we can to put a few dollars in our accounts :-) When will the nonsense end? Soon is the best answer.Time is running out on the haters :-)

  • ra

    Sounds like Jim Brown is a bit confused about things.

    1) Spending a few years in another country (e.g., Italy) gives one ‘more’ perspective, not less !!!

    2) I’m sure if there were a summit to just speak with Muhammad Ali about what it takes to be a great athlete, Kobe would be on the short list of that. Yes, Jim Brown would be there too (one of the greatest football players ever).

    Not sure what a summit which involves ‘armed forces’ and ‘Muhammad Ali’ would entail – maybe how the draft (and the consequences thereof) forced Ali to miss many of his ‘prime’ years? Kobe was not responsible for Shaq not playing ‘up to his own level’, before, during, and after Shaq’s time with the Lakers. Actually, Kobe’s high level of play probably helped Shaq in a ‘competitive way’, while he (Shaq) was still on the Lakers. Shaq had to elevate his own level of play to keep up with (or ahead of, for a time) Kobe. Kobe was ‘good’ for Shaq.

    • Paytc

      Exactly. Who do you think had the biggest ego Kobe or Superman?
      Shaq has to share in the blame with Kobe for that not working out. I think Kobe entering the league at 17 was the younger of the two players.

      Jim Brown should know to put a lot of that on Shaq, the older player.

      • Daryl Peek

        No matter how old one gets, sometimes the message of what forgiveness means is lost in personal bias. The thing I trip on is how Shaq has let bygones be bygones but others not directly effected by what was or wasn’t said haven’t?!?

        • Dragon7s

          Exactly!

        • Paytc

          so true ! Because Shaq is taking some responsibility in not sacrificing ego for the bigger cause (championships).
          Kobe I’m sure is shouldering some blame also,but Shaq was older and a bit more egotistical IMO on the outside looking in.

          • Daryl Peek

            For me, what went on between them is none of my business. I could care less who was wrong or right. I don’t asses blame as to why they could not coexist as Lakers either.

            It’s history. What happened, happened. GO LAKERS is all that matters for me. That was it back then, now and when Kobe is eventually gone.

  • Paytc

    I am a Jim Brown and a Kobe Bryant fan. I am sure Tiger Woods wouldn’t get that call either from Jim Brown. Neither Tiger,Kobe,or any other athlete owes any race other than the human race anything in particular. They don’t all have to be like Ali, Jesse Owens,or Jim Brown unless that is their beliefs,personality, background,and calling. That takes a different kind of courage and sacrifice.

    Jim Brown is the man. I met him briefly years ago at the Stardust Hotel in Las Vegas. And Ali is the greatest ! I love the ole school. All humans and players are different. Be who you are.

    That said, I do like those who stand for a cause bigger than themselves. But everyone is an individual sliced from a different branch. Everyone can’t manage the same loads as a human.But we can still appreciate them as great players.

    All you can be is yourself. And work from that point to get better as a human every day. Jim keep doing you ! And Kobe must keep being Kobe IMO. They are both making a difference.

  • jeremy

    not alot of people will like kobe. but kobe will always be kobe if you like it or not. plus he isnt the same person he has been in the past. seem like he change over the years.

    • Paytc

      It’s funny because a lot do like Kobe. But his public appreciation in the media can tend to distort things a bit. But when your a great player,businessman,artist,etc… there will be many who both love and dislike you. No one has evader walked this earth that I know of that everyone loved. You just have to take the bitter with the sweet, and roll with it.

      • Paytc

        No one has “ever”….. correction to the post above. :-0

        • Jade Baxter

          even Jesus was hated……….okay??? LOL

  • killakaz

    As a Laker/Kobe fan who grew up watching Kobe play and idolizing his game and work ethic, I agree 1,000% with Jim Brown. As incredible of an athlete Kobe is, and outside of his Homelessness cause (which, not to take anything away from the sincerity he probably has behind helping his community, is part PR), how much of his platform and influence has he used to mobilize people towards a social justice cause.

    Obviously it’s Kobe’s choice and there’s no mandate over any athlete (or any individual) to serve their community’s struggles. In contrast, there are other athletes that have capitalized on their influence for social causes (Lebron is a great example…see: his support for Trayvon Martin).

    Again don’t get me wrong, I love Kobe and what he’s done for this franchise on the court, and even the little he’s done off the court, but what’s wrong with Kobe is what was wrong with MJ; It’s less about being a ‘role model’ and more about individual consciousness.

    • Daryl Peek

      Are all called to serve others in the same way? We all have different gifts and are different as individuals consciously.

      • killakaz

        I agree completely, which is why if you look at a social justice cause everybody gets involved in different ways lol. People that don’t have that high of social capital are the ones on the ground mobilizing, while those with a popular and mainstream voice are the ones advocating for the cause. But there are certain ills in society that everybody universally recognizes as ills, which is what I’m sure Jim Brown is alluding to when he called out Kobe.

        • Daryl Peek

          As individuals, believers or non believers we are all led to do what we feel is right by our brothers and sisters.

          Malcolm X went to Mecca and was forever changed. Ali was conflicted about how he felt about the Nation of Islam and America thereafter. Jim seems to be somewhat jaded by his American cultural experience given he’s throwing stones at Kobe.

          Again I have no problem with the social intent of what Brown is saying. I just think it’s narrow minded to judge a man off what you think he should be or do…

    • Dragon7s

      Jim Brown is only about Jim Brown, always has been and always will be.
      Even his support for particular causes were motivated by his own ego, not by any social conscience.

      My Dad used to say that we hate/don’t like those people that are the most like us because we see their flaws and don’t like that we have the same ones and I believe that’s the case with Brown feeling the way he does about Kobe.

      • Paytc

        I disagree with the part about Jim Brown being motivated by his ego. Jim actually has a sincere concern about social justice and helping to bring about change in urban America.

        Jim has spent a great number of years trying to re-direct inner city children away from drug,crime,and gang activity. He has had a positive impact and made progress along the way.

        But Jim Brown doesn’t have the economic resources to back up his efforts and could use some help.

        But I disagree that he should expect Kobe and every athlete or person to feel responsible as he does. Jim is willing to take more risk and I appluad him for that.Many wealthy celebrities without mentioning names don’t want to risk their empires. I think in the long run Jim’s cause will work out because time is running out on oppression.

        • Daryl Peek

          Well said. I completely agree. Again we are all accountable for our own and have the free will to choose what we divest our resources and time into. There’s no exact script everyone should follow, all that is required is you give what and where you feel led to…

        • Jade Baxter

          Kobe does plenty of charitable things……….open your eyes!!!

          • Paytc

            I never said Kobe didn’t.I’m well aware of Kobe’s charitable contributions and have commented positively about them on his behalf. I’m good with both Kobe and Jim Brown. Got love for them both.I don’t always agree with either because I have a mind of my own.

      • jsmith28500

        and Kobe is all about Kobe and nothing else

    • Jade Baxter

      you are truly clueless………..Kobe has done more than you can possibly imagine for inner city youth and many other charities…….also Jim Brown goes to see OJ in jail to “council” him back in the 90′s, but I guess it’s okay to support your football homeboy when he clearly slashed the throats of two innocents………..ya and OJ your boy who was married to a white woman(not racist just pointing our that JB doesnt cotton to that) and then murdered her in a jealous rage………..I guess your boy OJ is “in touch” with the american culture right Jim? You support ppl for the wrong reasons and chastise ppl for the wrong reasons……..what an idiot you’ve made of yourself……….now climb back under that rock your 15 mins of fame are over now.

      • killakaz

        lol, if you read my comment clearly, i’m obviously not trying to take anything away from him. whatever good he’s done, be it microscopic is appreciated. i’ll say it again, IM A DIE HARD KOBE/LAKER FAN. I’VE GROWN UP WATCHING THE DUDE PLAY SINCE I WAS IN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.

        The reason jim brown’s critique of kobe is valid is because the black community more often than not is unable to utilize their social capital (or social influence) to an optimal level. Those with the highest social capital are aren’t always willing to sacrifice their popularity, or for that matter are unaware of how to navigate through the mainstream while still holding it down for social justice causes (goes back to my example of Lebron, or Ali). Just because it’s not the Sixties, does not mean that there aren’t issues to address. Racial profiling claims the live of several innocents regularly, if the most popular and mainstream figures of those who belong to a societal group aren’t going to speak to it, then who will? THAT’S what Jim’s Brown point is, and once you understand that Jim is speaking more in the grand scheme of things and is taking a group-oriented approach to this, and it’s not an individual attack on Kobe (I know it seems like it flat out is one, but he’s using Kobe as the vehicle to speak to the bigger issue with athletes…could that have been articulated better? sure, but if we focus on that then we’re missing the forest for the trees).

        Stop acting like I’m promoting a witch hunt against Kobe or something, real issues are bigger than organized sports, and by being critical of your idols and role models, you’re not selling them out or denouncing their accolades.

        tl;dr? Chill the hell out.

  • vdogg

    jim brown needs to step into the 21st century already… he is living in 1960. first of all, shaq and kobe both had issues when they played together to it’s myopic to just single out kobe. secondly, kobe has greatly matured as a player and a person. he gave back to his high school in order to improve its athletic facilities. he has worked hard to help eradicate homelessness here in LA. and he has never said ‘no’ to visiting an ill child as part of the make-a-wish foundation. why no mention of those things, jim??? those things have taken place FAR more recently than any kobe/shaq spat. step into 2013 already, old timer. the water is warm!!!

  • Daryl Peek

    As Lakers fans we have no better example of how social consciousness perception can easily be twisted. All we have to do is think back to what Magic went through with his Aids commission appointment.

    Magic was being pulled so many directions by masses with many different agendas on what they felt he should do. Magic had to quit his glorified presidential commission appointed post and find his own lane to best serve what he felt needed to be done.

    Everyone should have that right! No one should feel pressured to do what should come from the heart naturally. The good book says God loves the heart of a willing giver. Public pressure for social consciousness is trying to buy mans approval.

  • Joseph Apohen

    Brown, who cares if Kobe does not join your racist group?! Kobe thinks for himself. His culture depends on how he thinks or who he thinks he is. We are in the United States. We should think as Americans and not as a particular group, Chinese, German, Korean, English, Nigerian, Indian, Spanish, Italian, etc. Unfortunately that is not happening because we don’t comingle because of the old ethnic tradition.

  • Albert Cruz

    Brown, not a Kobe fan? Nawwww
    I’m shocked.

  • Raul Ravega

    Ok so I guess I’ll be the first to say it.. fuck off Jim Brown! So he was a great football player but I never followed it and I really don’t give a fuck but I will say that Kobe gets a lot of Flak because of who he is, competitive by nature but Kobe atleast has class and never talks shit about any other athlete be it basketball, football, tennis or whatever. Call me an asshole for saying it but eat shit J.B

    • jsmith28500

      Kobe is selfish, and Jim brown at 77 could pound your face in and Kobes with one punch

      • Jade Baxter

        BABAAHAHAHAHABABABAHAHAHA

  • Kobe-fan-5

    Because Mmmericans don’t like having people raised with a different culture having an opinion in things. Brown is a clown, and I feel bad for Kobe because all of these polished turds are coming out of the woodwork to get attention. Ehhhemm sir Charles! Do what you do Kobe. You have more championship rings than all those guys.

    • Jade Baxter

      exactly!! and also Barkley retired after his injury……….Kobe on the other hand was steadfast and diligent, worked incredibly hard to get back….so the model of hard work and not giving up is a bad thing to show kids? Work ethic in sports doesn’t translate to real life Charles? Wow………where have I been?

  • ncredibo

    jim brown, just go sit yo ass down somewhere!!! stick to what you do or did best? football!

    • jsmith28500

      Kobe go sit yo behind somewhere and stick to what you do best, sitting on the bench injured

      • Jade Baxter

        get a clue jsmith……….he aint on the bench injured!

        • jsmith28500

          Maybe raping someone in Colorado

  • Jade Baxter

    Nina,
    here’s the difference.JIm Brown was convicted of domestic violence numerous times…………Kobe was never proven to be a rapist………..yea he cheated on his wife…..and I don’t condone that………..but that’s between them. don’t trip

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