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Charles Barkley Discusses Kobe, Jordan After LeBron’s Third Final Loss

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On Sunday, in what was just a five game series, LeBron James and the Miami Heat lost to the San Antonio Spurs in the 2014 NBA Finals. Since arriving in Miami four years ago, James has been to the Finals every single season, but has only been able to win two championships with Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh.

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With James failing to win a championship in three of his five appearances, Charles Barkley was on the Dan Patrick Show this morning to discuss where he ranks when compared to Michael Jordan and Kobe Bryant:

“I always find it fascinating…‘Did [Kobe] die or something?’ because LeBron has two championships and they just forget that Kobe has five. And they’re like how good is he compared to Michael Jordan, I say Kobe still has more. I think he’s closer to catching Kobe than he is Michael.”

Barkley has been a strong supporter of James and believes he can go down as the greatest player of all-time, but recognizes that LeBron has three less championships than Kobe. If LeBron had been able to accomplish the same feat of winning three championships in a row like Kobe and Jordan, he would have been in the conversation at the age of 29 and still in his prime.

When LeBron and the Heat made their third straight appearance, all the talk was about how they were the best team since Jordan and his Bulls in the 1990′s. However, LeBron still has a ways to go before being mentioned in the same breath as Kobe and Jordan.
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  • Jordan

    lmao charles barkely, you are a practitioner of pro-lebron talk.

  • CharlesOakley

    Barkley just pretends Jordan was a god because it then, by his logic, makes him a better player for playing against him. . .

    • 3339

      Jordan is a basketball God. Many great players are ringless because of him.

      • Chrmngblly

        Ewwwww. It’s like he was castrated as a basketball player by MJ.

    • Mike

      If Lebron in basketball terms is the ‘King’ then MJ has to be a God. Tired of these two getting compared, Their playoff stats (both winning wise and statwise) clearly, clearly clearly clearly shows that MJ was just a better player. Case closed.

      no, really LBJ fanboys…. Case. Closed.

      - Here the most likely respond to come would be “you’re just one of those who thinks no one can ever be better than MJ no matter what”. No, i do think that eventually we’ll see a better player than MJ, but we wont see it by looking at Lebron James. Cheers.

      • Me$$

        Michael Jordan – GOD
        Kobe Bryant – Jesus(Son Of GOD)
        LeBron James – King(The Men Who praise Jesus And God)

        KB – 24 – 2 + 4 = x MJ – 23 – 2 x 3 = x
        x = 6 = LBJ

        • iEATcelticBabies

          i disagree, only Kobe made the impossible, miraculous shot’s, consistency… hence KOBE IS GOD !!

          • Jason Tirre

            foolish repent.CHRIST CAME INTO THE WORLD TO SAVE SINNERS. EVERY IDLE WORD WILL BE BROUGHT IN TO JUDGEMENT.FEAR THE Lord for its the beginning of WISDOM.

          • comrade24

            you’re an ignorant judgemental moron who probably believes the world is 8,000 years old and that global climate change is a hoax. You’re religion is a farce.

          • iEATcelticBabies

            Christ???… the bastard son of a rapist God/dad, and a adulterous whore mother??.. that dude??… i think Charles manson story is the samething, some savior he tiurned out to be….

        • Jason Tirre

          you must repent for the foolish blasphemy that you just spoke. if the nations are a drop in the bucket to GOD. What is man, but a vapor that vanishes. we are vanity of vainity without GOD. if you knew HIM, loved and or respected the LORD JESUS CHRIST, you wouldn’t say foolish things as such. every idle word will be recorded and accounted for.GOD IS HOLY.So I entreat you, don’t say foolish things that will bring you into judgement. say what you want to me but I speak this in love for your sake. basketball and all the games in the world don’t mean anything to GOD, AND Christ is INCOMPARABLE. its surely not worth offending GOD AND Him teaching you as lesson and devasting your life over something that wont be remembered in eternity. LIFE IS earnest and so is GOD, HE is no slouch, he says the things you say match your hearts condition. MY hope is that you call on HIS name believe on CHRIST THE SON and for your sake don’t say things as such flippantly and vainly use GODS NAME WITHOUT FEAR.i hope you consider friend.

          • comrade24

            Religion is like a penis. It’s okay to have one, it’s even okay to be proud of it. But it’s NOT okay to try to shove it down my fucking throat. If you want to believe that some cosmic jewish zombie will grant you entrance to paradise if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically accept him as your master so that he can remove an evil force that is there because a woman made out of a rib listened to a talking snake that told her to eat from a magical tree, go ahead. but leave it in your sunday school class. no one else gives a flying fuck.

          • Shurlok

            Well so tell me…you believe that some gas exploded and made you. Oh then you evolved from a freaking ape…lmao and the kicker is the minute you get a good peace of pussy or are on the brink of death…you call out to that COSMIC GOD. Christ is way..the truth…and the life

          • iEATcelticBabies

            as opposed to some dude adam, pulling out a rib, and pooof, woman is born, then a shit load of inbreeding?? …oh and the universe was made in 6 days????….someone should tell the dinosaurs !! hahahahaa… you pathetic weakling.. Religion is for those that cant do math !…period

          • iEATcelticBabies

            Nope.. sorry the worlds not flat….christ should be like homosexuality in the armed forces.. ” dont ask, dont tell”…. im not into some kid born in a barn, and his God-dad, raping a married woman, who now is a whore.. cool porno, but peddle that crap somewhere else please, like a church !

          • iEATcelticBabies

            all i need is this……E=mc2, proven ! fact. REAL !!!… btw.. the world is not flat !

          • iEATcelticBabies

            anywho, people that need some invisible dictator God to be moral, already failed…my heart is all i need.

          • comrade24

            most of the ten commandments aren’t even moral issues. The fact is the bible is a primitive book written by primitive people with ZERO understanding of the universe around them. Why does the God of the Old Testament seem so much different from the God of the New Testament? Did God change? If so, then God evolves. No, the reason is they were written during times of sweeping social change. God didn’t change, the people writing the book did. The people evolved.

          • comrade24

            wow, i love it when simpleton dumbasses try to use the monkeys turning into humans as evidence of proof for their pathetic, fairy tale religion. Evolution happens over billions of years, lots and lots of small changes and we can witness and even influence evolution even today. It happens right before our eyes. It’s called unnatural selection, humans having an effect on evolution. It happened with dogs. It’s still happening with them. Selective breeding is evolution in progress. It’s the reason we have chihuahas and great danes. If you don’t understand that then it’s probably because evolution skipped a step with you.

          • Derek

            LMAO! Even as a catholic, I had to laugh at that analogy!! That was pretty epic lol, PROPS!!! Here’s my like!

          • iEATcelticBabies

            People like you make me hate that hippy Jesus !…..

          • iEATcelticBabies

            LOL Fear GOD??? you sound like a fanatical terrorist taliban !

    • TheTruthKills

      Barkley things highly of Jordan because he got his ass kicked by him. Jordan averaged 41 points per game in the 93 finals. That’s enough to bring anyone to their knees.

      • Gabriel Mendes Da-Costa

        Last time i checked EVERYONE ONE got his ass kicked by Jordan in the finals.

  • Smokey the Bear

    I’m with Charles on this one

  • Super Girl

    AGREE!!!

  • TureLakersFan

    LeBron is going to pass Kobe, not by ring count, but everything else. LeBron is a different player. Who cares if he doesn’t have the killer instinct like MJ and Kobe. LeBron simply makes all his teammates better. It’s sad that they (his teammates) couldn’t do the same for him in this year’s Finals. Quit riding Kobe’s d**k. There is a difference of being a Laker fan and a Kobe fan!

    • Shosh

      I agree with every word you just said. 100% agree I’m glad there’s other real laker fans and not Kobe dick riders. Thank you !!!

      • VillainKing

        HEY, YOU ARE THE ONE THAT LOVES TO RIDE DICKS!!!BIG FUCK YOU Shosh!!!!

      • GhostOnLBJsD*ck

        Yeah great point! So instead of being a Kobe dick rider, youd rather ride the dick of a guy on an OPPOSING team. Enjoy being a BRON DICK RIDER instead! Cause that makes sense for a “Lakers” fan. If you even are one.

    • New power house

      Specially this season!

      • VillainKing

        Lebron James is crying this season because he cannot bring his team to another championship!!!

    • GoLakerz

      Im a Lakers Fan and Kobe Fan. Killer instinct is what makes basketball, whats the point of going out there just to play?? U have to refuse to lose and play your heart out. Kobe has so much passion for the game its incredible. Jordan did as well. So screw you and your idiotic logic. KB24 forLiFe prick hahahha

      • TrueLakersFan

        Get Kobe’s nuts out of your mouth! If Kobe had so much passion for the game he could of sacrificed his salary to keep the team competitive. Let’s not forget that the LAKERS made Kobe, not the other way around dummy!

        • Lakers!!

          Wasn’t really sacrifice of salary because there is no tax in Florida, so he was making basically the same anywhere else, It just looked like pay cut.

        • nlruizjr

          let’s not forget who made the offer, like you would tell your boss, nah I don’t need 48mil, you dumb ass !!!!!

        • LakersForLife

          man, you are not making a good point here. did you even do your homework before posting? MJ didnot sacrifice his salary from Pippen and the rest. Owners pay great players TONS of money for what they bring to the team. If i’m the owner of Laker, i would do the same as they did to Kobe or MJ.
          You call yourself True Lakers Fan, but you blasting the same guy who gave the Lakers 5 more banners. what a fan you are.

        • Wayne Griffin Jr.

          Wow…if you were working for a company and they said we are going to pay you 25 million a year would you turn them down? He didn’t write or negotiate the contract…it was offered. I don’t know what kind of business person you are but in business money talks. Kobe is an entity within a company and they decided to compensate him for his value to them. Get a clue!

        • McCoy

          you do realize that you have one like on your retarded ass response right?! Kobe is the GOAT! He predicated his game off Jordan his idol and did it better the same as Jordan predicated his game off Julius Irving and did it better, Jordan changed the game and went 6-6 doesn’t mean that kobe is just simply better

      • nlruizjr

        I agree 100%, how can you separate the two, they are one, like breathing and not breathing, how asinine !!!

      • VillainKing

        AGREE BUDDY KILLER INSTINCT!!!!

    • Then

      Kobe make his teammates better too… What have Bynum, Shannon, Ariza, Odom done stat wise since they left the Lakers. Get LeBron’s nuts out your mouth, he’s a big ass cry baby.

      • TrueLakersFan

        And what has Kobe done since they left? Same thing… 0 rings and another first round playoff exit.

        • vdogg

          is there an NBA player who is supposed to win playing one-on-five?

          • STFUaboutLeBron

            According to every anti-Heat fan the answer is yes. So why not hold Kobe to these standards? Sick of hearing how LeBron couldn’t win 3 straight. Did y’all not watch the game? He put in the work, but, like you said, one person can’t defend 5 players. He had no supporting role. Kobe won’t win another one either unless he does what the Big 3 did in Miami, because he can’t win a ring by himself either.

          • FUCKtheFLOP

            did kobe joined another team to win? do you think BYNUM and GASOL with kobe is better than 3 of the the top 5 DRAFT PICKS of 2003? KOBE carried a weaker team compared to LBJ’s ALLSTAR MIAMI HEAT TEAM .. just shows how he was better than LBJ, and he got no ring after they left coz he got an even more mediocre team now + his age .. but even so, he managed to still carry that team .. wade is a top 10 SG all time, with ray allen on the side .. MIAMI has 4 HOF’s in his team, kobe in 09 doesn’s.. so STFU :D

        • Bee Ballin

          kobe hasnt play in the playoffs in 2 years

          • jhernandez1981

            First off, Kobe didnt even play last year. The season before he drug his broken team to the playoffs by sheer fucking will power, tore his damn Achilles tendon, shot and sunk two free throws and walked off the court – in that order. The TWO seasons before that he won back to back NBA titles.

            Take your bullshit somewhere else.

          • Bee Ballin

            you do relies i was defending kobe from TrueLakersFan…Maybe I wasn’t clear

          • jhernandez1981

            in that case, my bad

          • YallDumb

            Quit riding Kobe’s dick. Only thing he has is 3 more rings. His career is done, while LeBron still has plenty of time to catch up and surpass 3 rings. But yet LeBron shouldn’t be in the “same conversation as Kobe.” Haha. Y’all dumb.

          • GhostOnLBJsD*ck

            Quit riding Brons dick then! Bron aint got much time left either. Hes almost 30 and he couldnt do it this year with his superstar teammates in Miami. And that teams breaking up soon. Hes gonna need a rebuild. Funny how even Wade, Jordan, and Bron himself say Kobe is above him. 3 rings is a lot to catch up on without two healthy, young superstars to ride their coattails to get

          • FUCKtheFLOP

            actually heat fans are the ones entering KOBE in the conversation when they talk about LBJ, says “LBJ is better than KOBE”, LBJ is younger than KOBE .. why? HEAT fans THREATENED of an OLD GUY? LOL

          • jhernandez1981

            Kobe is 36. You think LBJ is going to find a new squad, build up and win three rings in six years in this league? Get the fuck out of here with that noise. His teams tend to flame out towards the end of the play offs because that small ball shit he likes to run burns players up. It aint going to get any easier as he gets older either and another absurd Heat deal isn’t likely to fall into his lap again. I ain’t saying its impossible, but its incredibly unlikely.

            And the real reason LBJ ain’t in the Kobe and MJ conversation is simple. Its toughness. Getting carried off the court over some fucking cramps in the finals? Jordan played with a 102 degree fever and got IV rehydration between quarters. Kobe has played through more injuries than anyone could list. Bron got stomped by some cramps.

        • DKWTTY

          He didn’t even play dumbass.

        • GhostOnLBJsD*ck

          and what the hell has Lebron won without WADE AND BOSH?…..waiting?…NOTHING! All that sh*t about him making his team mates better sure as hell didnt save him from getting his ass kicked in the Finals this year or in 07 in Cleveland. Thats why he left his sorry team mates behind in Cleveland and joined a superstar studded team to win. He couldnt make his teammates better this year or in CLeveland. Your Bron arguments are flawed.

        • GhostOnLBJsD*ck

          Remove or change your damn name. You’re no TRUELAKERSFAN. You’re some trolling Heat/Bron fan! Get off our forums!

      • vino5rings

        Don’t forget that Gasol hasn’t wont a SINGLE playoff game without kobe

    • Edgar Tunson

      And you are niether…..shame on you for pretending to be a Laker fan. You are nothing more than a LeFraud sack rider who thinks by claiming to be a Laker fan it gives you any credibility. You are indeed sad. Lebron is nowhere close to either player and he will not pass The Mamba.

      • TrueLakersFan

        Yup, keep sucking that Kobe cox. Magic, Kareem, Worthy, Baylor and West were all better than Kobe you idiot!

        • Bee Ballin

          Maybe Magic and Kareem all the rest LOL how many times did West lose in the finales

          • Kenneth Simkins

            He lost against Russels Celtics who were stacked! West was one of the greatest! I remember watching them go 7 games every year against the Celtics! It always came down to the last shot in the 7th game! It very easily could have been the Lakers winning half of those series!

          • Kenneth Simkins

            A true Lakers fan would not be bashing any of our greats! Get off this site if you are going to do that! Kobe was one of the greats! I love the Lakers from West to Kobe! Go Lakers!

        • Wizard34

          Magic named Kobe the best Laker of all time. So yeah. He knows more than you.

          • Jefferrson Santos

            You would honestly pick Kobe over Magic? Seriously, Magic is the best Laker of all-time. Kobe 2nd.

          • TheTruthKills

            Magic also said that LeBron is the only player that can challenge Jordan’s legacy and become the greatest ever.

          • VillainKing

            JORDAN AND KOBE IS BETTER THAN LEBRON!!!

          • TheTruthKills

            Easy bro. I’m just pointing out what Magic said about the issue. Just saying don’t take everything Magic says as gospel.

          • VillainKing

            OK Bro..

          • SpeakEnglish

            *are… smh. Spoken like a Kobe fan. Ignorant as all hell

          • VillainKing

            Your ignorant as hell..

        • jhernandez1981

          No man. No. Just no. Other than Baylor and West, Ive seen all those guys play. I grew up idolizing Magic’s game. None of those dudes had a damn thing on Kobe. Nothing. The game West and Baylor played was simplistic and undeveloped compared to the game of the last thirty years even attempting to compare players of that era to a league minimum guy today is little more than a testament to ignorance.

        • VillainKing

          YOUR THE IDIOT!!!!

        • iEATcelticBabies

          Wrong.. they are all the same….there is no spoon, there is only purple and gold.. !

        • jhernandez1981

          Bullshit. And you aren’t a Lakers fan.

        • lex

          Why are they better?

      • comrade24

        boom

        • iEATcelticBabies

          BAMMM !….is that lecramp being carried off the court, or lepaul pierce ?

    • Alan Gomez

      You don’t know that, yeah sure maybe if he stays healthy but the grind of playing so many post seasons can wear on the body and LeBron has been lucky health wise. Hell if Derek Rose would of never got hurt I really believe we are not even having this discussion. Only time will tell.

    • Geoff

      If LeBron makes his team mates better, why didn’t that happen in this finals?

      • http://www.haveslot.com/ richard

        exactly!!!!

      • comrade24

        If anything, Lebron should have played a little more “Kobe like” in the Finals and they probably would have won at least one more game. It’s a good thing to get your teammates involved so that everyone can be a threat, but Kobe understands that when your teammates aren’t getting it done, you have to take over the game. In game 5, there were SEVERAL instances in that pivotal 3rd quarter where Lebron had a much smaller defender on him, and passed the ball without trying to attack. Kobe would have made him pay. There comes a time when you’re supposedly the best player on the floor that you have to put your teammates on your back and carry them to the finish line.

    • cl

      James did nothing this series tho if he had a killer instinct he would have won 4 straight titles who cares about making your teammates better he went to miami for rings not to make the players better

      • Lex

        Players joing teams and get paid to win not make players better that is the coach and training staff’s job.

    • jhernandez1981

      Killer instinct and toughness is integral to greatness. Dude got carried out like he broke his damn leg over some cramps. For all his immense skill, Lebron aint a great one yet. If it werent for the refs letting him get away with some serious goal tending and Bosh with one of the most blatant flagrants in finals history during the closing minutes of last seasons game 7 he’d still be just a guy with one ring and a bunch of near misses.

    • TheTruthKills

      You’re right, but you’ll never convince anyone on this site of that lol.

      • Gnob

        Thats true.. Kobe did lose 2 finals series too and there were times u could have questioned his “killer instinct”.. in 04 when the Pistons ran over them, well he actually played well cant say much for his teammates though(especially shaq, he was horrible during that series) and on 08 when they lost to the Celtics(Bynum wasnt around, stupid injury).. but the main diff b/w the two Kobe didnt abandon his team(although he threatened to leave if the Lakers didnt make moves) and leave them with nothing which LBJ did..shows u wat type of person/player he is.. he easily quits on his team.

    • Lakersince80

      Your a horrible true lakers fan. I bet you want lebron to be a laker. SMH. Only thing lebron is better than Kobe is how many times he got carried off the court. Your screen name should be taken and you banned from the laker nation. To be honest Magic Johnson is the greatest basketball player ever.

    • LakersFTW

      You think Lebron will pass Kobe in everything else even his 81 point game?
      Keep dreaming lol…

      To everyone else.. Stop using just the ring count to determine the best. Bill Russell has 11. Does that make him the best?

      • Chrmngblly

        I think so.

      • ra

        exactly! The players themselves might use ring count (Kobe & Magic sometimes do). Aside from that, it will be hard to pass 81. That’s not gonna happen unless LeBron decides to try to score on his own – and, who’s gonna let him do that.

        Kobe’s 81 was a masterpiece. Even Wilt Chamberlain’s, 100 points (which will never be broken) is for a Center, and not a Shooting Guard.

        If they could make ‘skill’ a statistic (not just ‘points scored by a certain age’, or ‘shooting percentage’, but things like ‘degree of difficulty’ and ‘places on the court where shots are taken’ and ‘number of people guarding player’ … other ‘intangibles’, then Kobe would, hands down, beat the pants off LeBron (who has only 2 signature moves – run (over players) to the basket, and ‘try’ a 3 point jumper).

        • comrade24

          Not to mention that when Wilt scored 100 pts there was no 3 seconds in the lane violation. He was so physically dominant that he basically could just stand under the basketball and shoot as much as we want.

    • 80s 90s Nba forever

      what the f*** are you talking about Michael Jordan made Luke longley steve kerr tony kukoc matter he was able to direct harness and control the fury of Dennis Rodman he made scottie pippen more than just a lock down defender.
      Kobe brought the best out of Derek Fisher Lamar Odom Ron artest kobe adapts to the game for sf and pg purposes. LeBron is one dimensional an athletic freight train that has mental fortitude of glass menagerie. Jordan knew he sucked at three pointers didn’t take many worked on it got better and still passed to Kerr. LeBron passes well shoots well enough any one can dunk dumb apes like Shawn Kemp and Blake Griffin have showed us that. But LeBron brings out the best of his teammates bull shit

    • Luke Schroeder

      He is going to pass him in what? Not rings or scoring. I do agree he is a different player, thats why I think the whole comparing him to MJ and Kobe is stupid to begin with. Lets not forget Duncan has a much better reaume than Lebron as well.

    • VillainKing

      YOU ARE THE ONE THAT RIDES A DICK!!!

    • LakersForLife

      LOL, if only Kobe master the art of flopping..he could make his teammate even better.
      But hey, Kobe love being Kobe, too busy being a killer instinct with 2 broken fingers. oh no, it’s not cramp..it’s just broken fingers on shooting hand.
      I’m sure if LeBron has broken fingers on shooting hand, he will NEVER cry, or will not miss shots. LOL
      you probably think i’m a Kobe fan huh? lol, i hate the dude for stupid ego and arrogant! but I bleed purple and yellow!!
      any one’s who bring rings and champion banners to our stadium..is my guy and I will stand next to him!!

    • blahblahblah

      Who cares if he doesn’t have a killer instinct? Oh I do. I will always support a player who will try whatever it takes to win. Not opt to sit 6 minutes on a do-or-die game when you were supposed to lead your team to a final ditch effort. Sheesh. Sure, he is athletically gifted, but better in everything else? No.

    • That one Guy

      Magic made players better around him, but are you gonna say that he was better than Kobe or MJ? I like Magic but I don’t think he is. Larry Bird is better than LeBron. Don’t give me the “LBJ has is a better athlete so he is better” CRAP. LeBron is a physical freak but by no means a better player. His skills are at the most slightly above average, in a forward’s body. Larry Bird may not have been a better athlete, but all around player wise, Larry is better. Plus, Larry has 3! LBJ only 2.

    • http://www.haveslot.com/ richard

      YOur logic is flawed… if LEbron makes his teammates better, why would that team, full of talent and star caliber players, cannot win 3 in a row, and why couldn’t he elevate his teammates…? puzzled… while kobe, had an inferior teammantes in 09′ 10′… yet they also won 2 straight championships and 4 finals appearance… how is that possible?

      • RichardAKADick

        If you’re blaming LeBron for the short-comings of his team mates than you’re even stupider than your profile picture suggests.

    • The Arsonist

      Some one who has to name them selves true lakers fan is probably not a true lakers fan lol.

    • RonniePee

      You are a clown to say the least!!!! Lebron is a very different player than Kobe, which is why he should NEVER be compared to him!! If Kobe had “cramps” we would never know about it, better yet, it would never happen!!! He’s played 18 seasons, and I can’t ever recall a time where Kobe missed time due to “cramps”. Kobe has had dislocated bones, broken bones, sprained wrist, torn ligaments….etc…. The list goes on and on. It’s amazing that when Miami was winning, they were the big 3, but the second things didn’t go well for them, it was “Lebron doesn’t have any help” WTF!!!! Wade, Bosh and Ray Allen??? But yet he didn’t have any help??? And why wasn’t Lebron in the game down the stretch??? He doesn’t have the mental make up to even be compared to Kobe.

      • comrade24

        you could tell with about 7 minutes left in the game Lebron was mentally defeated. He came out of the game and threw in the towel. Kobe would have DEMANDED to come in the game, and if the coach would have said no, he would walked on the floor anyways and told whoever was playing his position to GTFO!

    • DKWTTY

      lol. Making your team-mates better is the most bullshit I’ve ever heard that keeps being repeated. Losing 3 times in the Finals is making your team better? How?

      • GhostOnLBJsD*ck

        Thank you! Thats exactly what I just said. Bron didnt make his teammates better in Cleveland. Thats why he abandoned their asses to join two superstars in Miami. And he still lost TWO Finals WITH his two superstars! He didnt make them better this year!

        • DKWTTY

          Yeah lol. I see a few other people said it too. I didn’t read all the comments but I hate clueless and casual NBA fans who just repeat what they hear on Sportscenter or any of these sports talk shows. Like how can you talk about Kobe when you lose two times in your prime with D Wade, Bosh, the best 3 point shooter ever, and a ton of other 3 point shooters. The excuses have GOT to stop!

    • GhostOnLBJsD*ck

      Im a true Lakers fan as well. Grew up in Los Angeles county and have seen Magic play in the Forum and a few games every year since. But I am also a Kobe fan. Now if Kobe left the team and played elsewhere, of course, Id root against him if he ever played the Lakers. But I still admire his game and he would still be my favorite player. Point is, you fake Lakers fans dont realize that the man is on our team RIGHT NOW and has helped win 5 titles to our city! And yet you dare put Lebron above him? Lebron lost more Finals than any other superstar I can think of! He is NOT better than Kobe for a million reasons! First off, the man cant shoot nearly as well as Kobe. I dont even need to further that statement…Second, Bron has good TEAM defense (come from behind blocks and steals) but he cant guard no one on MAN ON MAN defense. (See his performance in the Finals, for example! Leonard lit his ass up as a ROLE PLAYER!) Kobe has better man on man defense when he isnt tired from playing offense. And lastly, Kobe is WAY superior in the post with his footwork and basketball IQ. Bron aint got NO footwork! Lebron is a better passer cause he defers more and a bigger body as a better rebounder. But even Bron says Kobe is better than him. Look up his interviews! A REAL SUPERSTAR NEVER ADMITS HE ISNT THE BEST!

    • Derek

      But the playoffs are where legacies are made. LeBron’s failures in the post-season wouldn’t put him above Kobe. He may be the best REGULAR season player, but if he continues losing in the playoffs he will not be a top 5 talent. LeBron had one good quarter in every game then became very complacent and passive. The greats would not have allowed four 15pt+ blowouts in the NBA Finals. Maybe Lebron rebounds and ends up being above .500 in the finals, but as of now he is not a top 5 all-time talent and not better than Kobe.

  • comrade24

    So in your minds, Lakers Nation, which team was better? The Lebron/Wade Heat, or the Kobe/Shaq Lakers? and which team would win in a 7 game series?

    • Clarkkent113

      Obviously the Kobe/Shaq teams were better. Those were some of the most dominate teams of all time.

      • comrade24

        I agree with you wholeheartedly, BUT who on those teams (and don’t say Kobe) would have been tasked and been able to guard Lebron James over a 7 game series? On the same count though, Shaq would have averaged 40ppg if Bosh was guarding him so maybe they just let Lebron go for whatever, same for Shaq and even each other out. idk, it’s a debate only NBA2k can settle lol

        • Bee Ballin

          Shaq kobe Finale win loss 12-7 63.2% Heat Big 3 11-12 47.8%

          • comrade24

            excellent point.

        • nlruizjr

          you have to remember LeBron had no outside game to speak of, he couldn’t hit the side of a barn, so to speak, all he had was his drive to the basket and dunk, good luck with that against Shaq, LeBron would have been Shaq’s first “Shaqting a Fool”

        • Clarkkent113

          Yes Kobe would have been able to guard him. Someone seems to forget Kobe was one of the best on-ball defenders of the 00s.

          And Lebron certainly would not have been able to stop Kobe.

          • comrade24

            i agree Kobe was a great defender, but i think it would have been a challenge for him with Lebrons size and strength.

          • Lex

            Did any of you see the block Kobe did on Lebron face up?

        • Sam Saab

          Kobe could have gaurded lebron, kobe was one of the best lockdown defenders, just take away lebrons penetration give him some room to shoot….even when players do that he still seems hesitant to shoot, shows his lack of confidence

    • jhernandez1981

      Shaq Kobe era would have took them to school. Wade, Bosh and Lebrons inside game would have been taken out of the equation. People tend to forget Shaq’s defensive presence and how much lock down play Fish and Kobe were back then.

      • Lex

        Don’t forget Rick Fox.

    • TheTruthKills

      Throw the ball into Shaq. Game over.

      • comrade24

        exactly. Bosh might as well be a practice dummy. Shaq would have averaged 40ppg, 20 reb in that series

    • LakersForLife

      Kobe/Shaq team may have issue against Lebron/Wade/Bosh team, but lets not forget one thing. Kobe/Shaq team also include the Zen master and who will forget Horry. lol. Yes, Lebron also has Ray Allen and Rashad Lewis, but Kobe also has Glen Rice. Now, to guard Lebron, that is Ron Harper job. So in best of 7, i say it will be close but Kobe/Shaq team got this with 4-2

    • lex

      Why ask? Even with Bosh and add Melo inthere Shaq and Kobe’s team would still beat them,.

  • Alan Gomez

    Really? Lakers with Kobe and Shaq would of dominated the Heat and we’re probably better then the Jordan Bulls too.

    • TheTruthKills

      Beat the Heat? Yes. Beat Jordan’s Bulls? No. At best Shaq would force a double team, but who’s stopping Jordan and Pippen on the wing?

      • cj

        kobe stops jordan. ur right about pippen but who stops shaq.

        • TheTruthKills

          Like I said, Shaq would draw a double team. Kobe wouldn’t be stopping Jordan though. At best Kobe would have to match his output.

          • cj

            u underestamate kobe

  • Eric Nelson

    Ya, and Robert Horry has 7. All time best (lol).

    Apples and oranges. Takes all kinds.

    Kobe is my favorite…but Jordan’s the best.

    • nlruizjr

      He still hasn’t passed Kareem in points, how can h e be the best ????

  • Alex Torreon

    I think there’s a mole in our organization. Tsk tsk tsk…

  • TheTruthKills

    Everyone outside of LA forgot about Kobe simply because he wasn’t playing. He wasn’t leading his team deep into the playoffs the last two years or winning championships. LeBron was doing all of that, and now that the Heat lost in the Finals all of the irrational basketball fans will come out of the woodwork to crap on him. That’s the game for you. First they love you, then they hate you, and then they love you again.

  • j.thekidd

    About time he says something good about Kobe Smh

  • Google my G google

    Lebron has four legends on his team wit All Stars coming off the bench… U can’t make these players better dumb ass… They legends in they prime… How tha fuck they gona get better…lebron wanted this so it would be easy for him to win… No heart… And keep double teams off of him… So she can keep her stats up… Then u pussy ass niggaz talking bout Kobe fans but u pussies is just lebron fans dick riding… My fault eating her pussy… Knowing this queen leaves MIAMI u pussies gona ride his dick and suck it over there too… Just like how he did Cleveland… But he had no team but they was number one for two years straight but he had no team… This pussy is not great he is very good but not great… And to compare to Kobe or Jordan is completely out of line… Ok his stats is nice and look at what he did to win…Kobe will go down as the greatest player to ever touch tha NBA court… Period… Jordan and Lebron do not did not have a pure three point shot… Google Jordan my G… It’s a fact and Kobe then shot entirely way more three pointers then both of them… They hearts was not bigger bc Jordan had every award winner on his team… Rodman defense of player of tha year and tha rebounding king… Six man award Tony… Coach of tha year Phil… MVP was Jordan… Then tha best three shooter Kerr… A player they was comparing to Jordan, Ron Harper at point guard… Then had the best small forward Pippen and really the best all around player of that era… That’s three legends Jordan rodman Pippen… Wait, I’ll get back to Jordan’s competition in a minute… Lebron drives does a bunch of layup and dunks to keep his field goal percentage up bc he shoots misses a lot… Then this queen has four legends him Wade Bosh and Ray Allen the best three point shooter in history…and got a good all around game… Then R. Lewis and Beasley two more all star players that’s very good… Not including Shane Birdman Oden… Wade a proven monster all by hisself and a top five player in tha NBA and most likely will go down as a top five shooting gaurd in history… Bosh was a top five scorer in tha nba when he was in Toronto by hisself… And has one of the best all around game at the power forward position if not the best… Jordan didn’t have all that I mean god dam… But that’s what it took for Jordan and Lebron to win rings… Magic and Bird had unbelievable teams too… Legends in Magic Cooper a defense of player of the year Kareem and Worthy Bird had Parish and Macale… Then Jordan eastern conference when he finally started winning was trash… Indiana and New York was all Jordan had to worry bout… Just like Lebron and he just had Indiana to worry bout… Now Kobe just had one legend winning 5 rings and three wit shaq that’s it… And shaq had two dominate teams in Orlando Hardway Anderson Grant and a bench… Then had Eddie van axel van baker and a bench and couldn’t win shit… But soon as Kobe started they win three straight… Then Kobe picks up Gasol in ten years he only went to a rookie all star game that had 24 rookies in it that does not count… Never seen a playoff game before teaming up wit Kobe… Made his first all star game appearance bc really Duncan was hurt…and Kobe gets hurt they the worst team in tha nba he is dumpster juice… And who is two rubber knees Bynum? Haven’t heard nothing bout him since he left Kobe… Odom either… Fisher goes to tha bench… They was just good players if that… Now Jordan’s competition was Drexeler and miller at tha shooting gaurd position really that’s it… Ray Allen demolished millers records joe Johnson the slaughtered Drexeler records… That’s not including the players like A.I. T-Mac Wade Carter Ellis George Granger Harden and ect that Kobe face to a game to game basis… And that’s not including players like lebron Carmelo Durant rose Westbrook k. Irving rondo Kidd Nash and ect. Jordan never seen players like this and when he he did Pippen held them on defense to reserve Jordan’s legs for offense… Meaning Kobe is more athletic a better defender a better shooter a way better dribbler against players ten times better then what Jordan faced in this era… Then three years on the bench bc Eddie jones was the captain of tha team and the verteran of that team at shooting gaurd… Wit two half seasons…Then then caught Jordan all time in scoring and in every stat surpassing him in some then against this competition that Jordan never seen… Then Kobe won two more championships wit no legends against Boston a team wit three legends rondo Perkins and a bench out this world coming out the western conference when it was at its best in history… And playing these teams also in the season four times each… And Jordan seen 2-3 and 3-2 defenses they don’t do that shit no more bc everyone can shoot now and dribble and drive it’s not just backing down no more…then tha MVP issue he fuck a white girl in tha ass they claim he rape her and all tha people that vote for the MVP is white men… I mean dam if this is not enough to say he is tha greatest, u is really fuck up and riding whoever u like dick… I’m going off statistics… And all this is facts… No lie no exaggeration and no bullshitting… Jordan said it Phil said it magic said he is the greatest laker of all time lebron said it pat said it the greats said this I mean dam who else and I’m showing u why… Just a little something u need to know… HISTORY…

  • diego Lorenzetti

    Kobe rules!!!!! Lebron se lo sogna kobe…..dopo jordan quello che piu je se avvicinato rimane kobe…e poi nn dimentichiamoci timoteo duncan….fresco fresco del suo 5 anello!!!! A da passa de acqua sotto er ponte per lebron!!!!!!

  • iEATcelticBabies

    Jordan violated Charles barkley team’s, ofcourse CB is going to see MJ in his dreams and nightmares, but that could have easily been kobe, if you switch MJ and KB era’s..

  • iEATcelticBabies

    Hence, Charles barkley was never meant to win a championship…. hahaha loser !

  • jjf

    its not the thing about kobe and lebron.. its about how people thought of lbj as the next mj which a lot far out, shame on him dunkin in front of his airness on the sidecourt

  • iEATcelticBabies

    Magic Johnson and ((( YACK ))) (( derbler blar blur ble)) Larry Bird saved the league, Everyone after must bend over PERIOD. !!!

  • iEATcelticBabies

    Kobe makes the impossible, ordinary.. he’s even greator than MJ.. look at the highlights, and how many of.. you’ll see kobe made impossible shots look like lay ups, on the daily… he is the GOAT, and always will be..

  • iEATcelticBabies

    To lebron’s credit, erik spoelstra, DWADE, CBOSH suck !

    • Zimmeredge

      Bosh is an outstanding player…. He has not system for him in Miami he supposed to shoot from three. That´s not his game Man. If the guy was playing with Kobe or with only one dominant player he could score in bunches. Like 24-12.

      • iEATcelticBabies

        well, he did make critical plays last season.. maybe im a little harsh on bosh.. but dwade’s body has taken one to many falls, his body will fail him sooner than later.

        • Zimmeredge

          I agree on wade. He will struggle much more than Kobe playing after 32-33yo imo.
          Bosh is incredible. And of gasol leaves and bosh is available we should go after him.

  • Mark

    Barkley always slyly rates other players in a way tha makes himself look better

  • iEATcelticBabies

    Fatties that never won a championship should not be allowed to speak on the matter.

  • WhiteWalnut

    Jesus is Lord

    • comrade24

      Keep it in Sunday School. No one cares about your primitive beliefs.

  • Robert L. I.

    Lebron and the Heat just had a can of whoop ass cracked open on them. He’s not in the same sentence as Kobe, Jordan, Jabar, Magic, Bird. He’s lost more than he’s won. Remember that team was built to win. The Spurs broke records in scoring margins. That was truly a sad display by a world champion. They gave up and it was fully apparent when Ginobili

  • tommy bone

    Meanwhile, the quiet professional, Tim Duncan, just got his fifth ring.

  • thischick

    *fewer

  • Lakers4Life

    All this talk about MJ, Kobe and LeBron and who is the “best” yada yada is pointless.

    Their achievements in terms of stats are similar or in the same range of uberness, so it all simply comes down to how well their teammates played to win those championships. Unfortunately for LeBron, even with Wade and Bosh he wasn’t able to win more rings so all he can do is continue playing at his level and find a team that has even better teammates.

    • Zimmeredge

      It’s not that he didńt have the ability to boost his team mates. His teammates let him down. The guy was pumped up he did an outstanding series but wade let him down. I won’t Talk about bosh because the guy can’t even express his full talent in this heat team. Wade, allen were disappointing, role players chalmers and Anderson were absent. Lebron was alone tbh alone against 8-9 players

  • Jimmy Besos

    LeBron James, insofar as greatness, isn’t even in the top 10.

    First of all, he’s got excuse after excuse for losing. He said to his teammates: “Follow my lead: before Game 5. And they did. LBJ scores 17 points in the first quarter, and the Heat led by as may as 16 points. LBJ virtually disappears afterward, scoring only 14 points the rest of the way, and the Heat, following his lead, also faded. After the game, LBJ sings an entirely different tune: “I was just trying to inspire my teammates”. The guy couldn’t wait until they got back to Miami to throw his team under the bus. Good Grief.

    Also, you LeBron supporters need to check your memories. It wasn’t the “King” who got the Heat out of Game 6 last year, but Ray Allen with timely shooting. Which, incidentally, wouldn’t have been possible if Duncan was on the floor in the last 30 seconds as a rebounding presence.

    Jordan led by example, as did Magic, Kareem, Bird, Stockton, West, Chamberlain, Erving, the list goes on. Kobe Bryant is a great talent and is likely to surpass Jordan’s career point total, but his intolerance for anything short of excellence does not put him in that rarefied air of the NBA’s true elite. And he’s got five rings. LeBron has two, and hides behind his teammates instead of manning up and admitting his own shortcomings.

    “LeBron James” and “greatness” ? We’re light-years away from THAT discussion.

  • Westbroke

    Jordan = God. Kobe = Demigod. Lebron = King.

  • Delwyn Campbell

    I am a life-long fan of Da Bulls. Michael Jordan is the Standard. Kobe has approached the Standard. James is a media creation. Like the grass, he will fade.

    • MJ

      EXACTLY !!!

  • Boop1112

    Why all the comparisons, Kobe is better, there is no comparison, stop the madness

  • DKWTTY

    Barkley hating on Kobe I’m going to assume as usual. Who cares what he says. Dude averaged a double double his entire career and couldn’t figure out a way to win a ring. Kobe went on his own show and destroyed him with his basketball IQ. There’s a reason Kobe has 5 and Charles has 0.

  • Jeremy Brown

    Kobe = MJ > Lebron

    • MJ

      Kobe does not equal MJ. MJ would not have had a sucky game in Game 7 against Boston. But Kobe is far better than LeBron.

  • iEATcelticBabies

    Charles Barkley know’s nothing about being a champion !

  • iEATcelticBabies

    if Charles Barkley won one championship… just one, his word would hold more weight…but, he’s just like every other loser.

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