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Are The Lakers And Cavaliers Discussing A Gasol-For-Bynum Swap?

Andrew Bynum Pau GasolJust a day after news surfaced that the Lakers are reportedly not bringing back Pau Gasol, ESPN has reported that the Lakers and Cleveland Cavaliers could be discussing a Gasol-for-Andrew Bynum swap.

The Los Angeles Lakers and Cleveland Cavaliers have had discussions about a trade that would involve Pau Gasol and Andrew Bynum, league sources told ESPN.com.

No deal is believed to be imminent, but both sides are mulling it ahead of a Jan. 7 deadline when the second half of Bynum’s $12.25 million salary would be guaranteed. The Cavs suspended Bynum for one game this weekend for conduct detrimental to the team and have excused him indefinitely from all activities, including games.

This story comes on the heels of the Lakers saying that Gasol is not on the trading block followed by a couple of editorials from ESPN’s Dave McMenamin and Kevin Ding suggesting that Gasol has been dogging it in the last few weeks and could have played in the Lakers loss to the Utah Jazz on Sunday night.

Should a deal happen, there couldn’t just be a Gasol-for-Bynum swap. The Cavaliers would have to send the Lakers at least one other player to make it work under league rules. Considering Bynum’s current deal, the Lakers could save up to $20 million in salary in luxury taxes.

The Cavaliers are looking to move Bynum as soon as possible as his contract becomes fully guaranteed on Jan. 7. If Bynum is waived before Jan. 7, Cleveland would only have to pay $6 million of his deal, but the team would rather get something in return for the center rather than let him walk for nothing.

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  • jeremy

    as immature as bynum is i wouldnt mind seeing how a trade like this could work out. if his knees are ok he could be the center the lakers been needed for a while. i wonder who that second player would be it be funny if it was earl clark

    • Benji was best

      No jeremy the Lakers are going to waive Andrew Bynum right away.

      • jeremy

        really why ? as injury as they are they need all the players they can get

        • Benji was best

          By trading Gasol in a package for Bynum and
          then waiving him, the injury-ravaged Lakers could save more than $20
          million in salaries and luxury taxes, which could help them maintain
          financial flexibility heading into the next few summers. A Gasol-Bynum
          trade would have to include at least one other player and perhaps other
          assets from Cleveland.

          The Lakers have been luxury-tax payers for
          six straight seasons. While the luxury-tax savings this season — and
          ability to avoid the repeater tax penalty that kicks in when a team is a
          taxpayer in four out of five years starting with the 2011-12 season —
          would undoubtedly help the Lakers’ long-term flexibility,

          • jeremy

            yea i just read about that it wouldnt be a bad deal if they did that. it would show they are playing for next season but heck it not like the lakers will do much damage this season anyways so why not play for the future

          • Benji was best

            Sure man it would suck for now but whatever Pau Gasol is not in the Lakers future plans anyways.Might as well just tank and go for the #1 pick and tons of cap space.I would rather the Lakers compete with Pau Gasol but won’t happen.

          • jeremy

            well i think it best to move on from gasol and why not get something for instead of letting him just walk and even if he did stay he wasnt going to be a cheap person to sign. so lakers i think see their best move is why not get something for him and just play for the future

          • Benji was best

            Get Anthony Bennett in this trade and i call Mitch a genius.No matter how bad he has played damn he is only 20 yrs. old and a former #1 pick this season.Cavs are desperate to move on from Bynum so make them pay for it.

          • jeremy

            i was just thinking about that what if they try to get him, but i dont see how can the cavs give up on him so soon. the lakers can just put him in the d league and let him get work. then have him come back ready to play next season.

          • Benji was best

            Does the Kwame Brown trade ring a bell?Mitch traded Caron for Kwame.This Bennett kid could be in Purple and gold.Just toss in a couple of our young prospects and it happens.

          • jeremy

            well people said west help the lakers with that deal. but with how bad cavs look to trade bynum anything can happen and cavs would need to add another player or two to make the trade work so who knows what the other player or 2 could be

          • Benji was best

            Add a first round pick and this deal is done.

          • Benji was best

            Zeller,Bennett,Waiters just include one of these guys and lets do this.

          • jeremy

            with the log jam at center and kaman crying for mins i think it would be either a SF or guard lakers would want. i think in the end it might be waiter. it hard for me to see the cavs give up bennett

        • Martin

          A lot depends on Nash. If Nash doesn’t play anymore this year and retires, the Lakers can deduct his salary from the cap, thereby avoiding the tax. The Lakers could then hang onto Bynum if it looks like Bynum has his head in the game. (The Cavaliers are being somewhat secretive as to why Bynum was suspended.)
          If Nash doesn’t retire, then the Lakers can trade Gasol for Bynum and maybe Jarrett Jack; waive Bynum and end up below the cap with another good point guard.

    • SoulChorea

      Thing is, his knees are not ok

  • Benji was best

    Might as well trade Kobe Bryant to allow him to win ring number 6.Lakers are done!

    • JLAKE

      your talking some majorrrr BS IMO

    • Joseph Rejekt

      They can’t trade Bryant. Kobe has a no trade clause. Seems many Kobe haters forget that when they propose trading Kobe. Also, do you realize how difficult it would be to move his $30+ million contract? The Lakers would have to get a similar amount in contracts back.

    • Matt Williams

      I think some people that comment on here might legitimately be idiots. I might have said this before, which might mean it’s true.

  • Benji was best

    Lakers are doing this as a salary dump.Lakers FO are rejects so pathetic.F U!

  • Hanzo

    so the Lakers want to trade one guy thats sick and can’t play for a guy that doesn’t care about his team…wouldn’t that be jumping out of the frying pan and into the fire? Im sure the phone call was one way call, the Cavs to the Lakers.

    • Joseph Rejekt

      One guy has a downside guarantee of $6 million if he’s cut before a certain period but counts at around $12 million on the cap until he’s cut. The other is making around $19 million. You do the trade (add in another contract to make salaries closer matching) then cut Bynum, Lakers save at least $6 million and possibly more if they end up getting a contract back that is on the lower end of what would need to come back to make salaries match within a given %.

  • R

    why not bringing back Mike Brown as well??

  • jeremy

    if lakers could some how get Dion Waiters out of the deal how can you guys not say no

    • Daryl Peek

      That would be a strong possibility in this deal given the salaries don’t match straight up and Waiters has had beef with Irving and others on the team.

      • Benji was best

        Dudes i heard Dion Waiters punched Kyrie Irving in the face.

      • jeremy

        i can see it now waiter and young lighting it up from off the bench. since waiter is a stronger bench player than he is starter.

  • Tyrone Von Gilyard

    The Lakers have a history of revolving around a dominant big man. Bynum had a big enough body and force to keep people away from the paint. It would be a smart decision moving forward. Geta young player from cleveland with bynum. They can make it work. All we need is forces on defense. Cleveland expected bynum to score. lakers nation. We know what bynum is used for. Boards and defense. Thats what we need. Gasol doesnt have strong enough force to keep people from the paint nor box people out for boards anymore. Andrew bynum has a proven track record of doing it for us.. Who would actually wanna play for cleveland. I live in ohio. This is the worst state possible to wanna have a future in. This is nothing like cali. I wouldn’t be inspired to live in cleveland. I live in toledo. This shitty ass city is ten times better then cleveland. Kyrie dont even look enthused to be there..lmao

    • jeremy

      but the word is if a deal like this happens bynum wouldnt stay he would just get wavier so lakers can save money for the future

      • Tyrone Von Gilyard

        I know 9 times out of 10 they would waive him. But in the short run. His force and body can be used. We have no big bodies on our team whatsover. Jordan hill. Is active not other big man on our team is. Sacre can play ten minutes. But he get ravaged in the hole like gasol does. He still is only making 12 mill. Thats paperweight compared to the contract gasol has and the contract his agent would want him to recieve. See how bynum does back in the lights of La.

        • jeremy

          well it not about the now it about saving money for the future and if they cut bynum before the 7th they save about 20 mill. they keep him fine, but they cut him they save good money and put them in a good place to get good prices

        • Robert Bahr

          If u kept bynum it b more than 12 mill. U cut him its nothing cuz cleveland paid him u keep him its 6mill rest of this year plus lux tax which almost doubles that then he still under contract next year have another small hit to cut him later Bynum can’t play anyways ain’t dependable So if they do trade they will cut him and honestly he will prolly sign with the bitch ass heat at discounted rate so they can use him for one series vs pacers

      • Tyrone Von Gilyard

        We need boards and defense. We got scorers. BUt without a force on defense we wont do shit. Bynum can provide that force he has proven that. Him and chris kaman together if mda decided to play him. Would be what him and gasol should have been when they played together. We won 2 ships dont get me wrong. They played well. But kaman rebounding effort and bynums to gother. Bynum on the block. And kaman stepping out for them easy bunnies and coming back to the paint like he always does would be great for us..
        Our front office doesnt see that. Kaman has a track record of defense and rebounds. MDA will not play him. Go back to kaman clipper days. Consistent rebounding and scoring.We havent seen that cause MDA wont give him a chance cause he cant shoot 3′s and run fast. We are getting injured because we never slow down. Lakers have never been run and gun.

        • jeremy

          well lakers dont care what bynum can do all they care about is how can they say money for the future. since if the cavs and lakers did do a deal lakers could save up to 20 mill if they did cut bynum

  • jeremy

    read about this rumor only problem is who would be the other piece or peices to this trade. it would have to be good if they give up gasol. yes gasol value not so high but cavs really want bynum gone. so for the right deal lakers should get him

  • Ger

    Good Deal. Remember Andrew Bynum dropping 30 rebounds in one game? He can still be dominant. Mike D’Antoni is the problem. Bring a new coach.

    • jeremy

      rumors has it a deal like this happens lakers could look to cut him so they can save money.

  • Daryl Peek

    Salary dump people. Stay focused on topic. Bynum is too questionable (is his heart truly in it) to keep.

    • jeremy

      alot of people dont know that even i didnt till read up on this rumor

      • Daryl Peek

        I figured this from the jump. It’s only logical. Really we have a log jam at center right now given Kaman, Hill and Sacre are always in a cycle of feast or famine for PT.

        • jeremy

          yup and what im wondering is who would be the other piece or pieces in this deal. it would have to be something good

          • Chris Lilly

            jeremy u keep sayin the same shit over and over lol. We all kno.waiving bynum would save us money smh

  • socali

    So we’ve become a salary dumping team due to this BS CBA agreement.

    • jeremy

      how is that a bad thing, it not like the lakers are going anywhere this season with the way things are going and rumors have it gasol not in the lakers future plans so why not trade him for something

      • socali

        Short term this is a good thing, since we are in a transitional phase due to the whole CP3 fiasco but we never want to see the Lakers become a salary dumping team in genreal. We are not a salary dumping team. We field the best team possible.

        • jeremy

          well with the new rules lakeres will do what ever best for them and i dont think this would happen if lakers were a better team. but since the lakers have so many injures and cant seem to win why not play for the future. since as of right now lakers would only be the 8th seed at best if they made the playoffs. plus rumors have it gasol wont be back so why not get something for him and that something could be a good player

  • Lakers Fan

    Bynum will be waived as soon as they get him. The FO would be idiots to actually think Bynum wants to play basketball, which we clearly see that he don’t. This is all to clear cap space, which quite frankly is a great idea. Don’t get carried away by the title of the article. We would finally get rid of Pau and his huge contract, which is what most, if not all, of us has been praying would happen.

    • jeremy

      yup and with rumors lakers might not bring pau back why not get something for him while saving money

      • Lakers Fan

        Exactly. Hopefully we can get Dion Waiters as well. But if that happens, Xavier would lose PT and Meeks will too once Kobe comes back. It would be a log jam at the SG and SF position.

        • jeremy

          well maybe the lakers would send 2 players who knows. the rumors of the trade are still in talks. so who knows how many players will be in the trade if it happen

          • Lakers Fan

            Well if that is the case, Meeks may be the one leaving. I don’t know how all this will play out if it happens, but it will be interesting at best.

          • jeremy

            well how bad cavs want byunm gone i wouldnt be surprise if they took henry. i like henry but he a up and down player good at home not so good on the road and lakers would be better keeping meeks. but trading meeks help the lakers tank even more.

          • Lakers Fan

            Meeks has a terrible basketball IQ. Plus, Henry is younger than Meeks and is having the best year of his NBA career. Henry has been playing better on the road lately as well. If Meeks isn’t hitting his 3′s, he starts making bad decisions. I just like Henry more than Meeks to be honest.

          • Daryl Peek

            Meeks is way more consistent. Meeks is one of the reasons we don’t have more losses. We all love Henry’s potential but Jeremy is right.

          • kobe24

            I like the points Jeremy brings up about Meeks. Its undeniable Xavier Henry is inconsistent. Sometimes he looks likes Russel Westbrook/ Derrick Rose driving into the rim making baskets and getting shooting fouls but other times he just looks out of it.

            Personally though, Henry has much more potential, if he just practices his jumper and able to finish at the rim he would help the Lakers alot. Also, even though hes been doing better than his previous seasons I don’t see Henry getting good offers from different teams so it will be cheaper for Lakers to resign henry than meeks.

  • Nikko10

    such bunk!

  • TheTruthKills

    Looks like management finally got the message and is getting ready to tank this season.

  • Frank

    I say do it. Gasol not coming back next yr. Saves a lot of money in long run. Better for Lakers. Be realistic, we’re not going no where this yr. Bynum won’t play in a game. He would be released right away.

  • GM Jack

    Why trade? Gasol, contract is expiring. Only one half of the season is left.

    Side note on K. Irving, he is bad mouthing Bynum, that is just not right. Bynum has two rings. Plus, Irving has not achieved anything. Bad news.

    Bynum is going to be waived, just pick him up.

    • socali

      link on Kyrie Irving bad mouthing Bynum? Im heating up the popcorn even as we speak =)

      • kobe24

        GM jack, exactly his contract his expiring why not try to get something out of him instead of just letting him walk away during FA?

        Once Lakers get bynum they can waive him which saves the Lakers over $12 million and puts them under the salary cap. Also, the Lakers would be getting 1~2 extra assets from Cavs in order to satisfy the salary cap or even draft picks (maybe not 2014 but 2015+)

  • Joshua

    It’s full on tank mode now. If there is a time to do it, it’s this season with the upcoming draft class. If the Lakers go belly-up in January with 10 of 11 on the road, they might just hit it big in the lottery. It hurts now for fans, but it might be the best moving forward.

    • jeremy

      yup people forget too we went though down years before it nothing new. FO will get the lakers back on top it will take time. laker fans just cant hope for a good team all at once

      • Joshua

        Yeah. The Laker way of reloading on the fly isn’t as simple anymore with the new CBA and the AAU mentality of today’s superstars. The Lakers had one last chance to reload quick but that got vetoed when small market owners probably held Stern’s family at gunpoint. The Lakers now must learn to get creative with personnel moves, load up on draft picks, and develop talent. That young talent can be the core players moving forward, or give them the assets they will need when the opportunity presents itself to trade for a young superstar like what Houston did trading for James Harden.

        • jeremy

          if all goes well lakers could be back on top in 2 years base on good draft picks and free agent moves

          • kobe24

            I feel that Lakers will obviously have a mediocre season next year but for 2015-2016 if they can acquire a major free agent (Kevin Love I hope) then they can become a major contention with Kobe + Love

            given that Kobe plays in his all star form or at least 20 PPG+

  • Jay Brodes

    horrible idea..nuff said!!! did not like bynum 2 years ago and dont like it now!

    • jeremy

      did you read up on the rumor, in the end the trade might be a cost cutting deal. if lakers got bynum they might just cut him to save money

  • TeamMike206

    This trade is purely for the cap space. If it goes through, it means the Lakers have quit on this season and have decided to double dip this offseason (high lottery pick and a max deal). It’s not a bad strategy just 1 that us Laker fans aren’t accustomed to.

    • jeremy

      well that max deal might have to be lebron if rumors are true that lakers wont offer carmelo anthony a max deal.

  • General Manager

    Lakers: Andrew Bynum
    (Dion Waiters or Anthony Bennett)

    Cleveland: Zach Randolph

    Memphis: Pau Gasol

  • hoperhetoric

    The Lakers really dont want to release bynum in the first place even w/injuries w/o a Dwight as a replacement. They just gambled that Dwight will stay. Bynum’s rebound & presence in the paint makes a lot of difference more than Gasol’s offense. Kaman & Hill should level up & believe themselves that they are just good as Gasol in offense but better in defense! Only Kobe & Farmar knows how to tame & play Bynum.
    Lakers reached the playoffs w/him from 08-11, 2peats & 1st round vs dallas, vs thunder,( they only lost because of no guard that can defend barea & errors vs OKC).
    We need this trade! If clippers get him, the clippers are automatic better than miami. Dominating Rebounds & shot blocking, Clutch Cp3, & role shooters.
    Lakers better get him now than somebody else become a super super team.

    • Daryl Peek

      Bynum was a non factor in those playoff runs. Look his playoff numbers up mayne. I’d love to see Andrew revive his career as a Laker but there’s no way he fits the current group with the uptempo style.

      • hoperhetoric

        Dantoni said Lakers can have two systems. the starters will run in Kobe’s way, semi triangle. & the 2nd unit in perfect Dantoni system.

        • Daryl Peek

          If the trade happens it will be a salary dump IMO.

  • Jose

    Its funny how people are now saying oh yes its a possibility that it can happen but when I mentioned it in the comments of the article that said that Bynum was suspended. All I heard as you are dreaming and why would the Cavs do that? I said that Pau should be traded for Bynum and Clark and as soon they could waive Bynum that way they got a player and they shed salary. I know that its not a done deal but it works for both teams and at least the Lakers are really thinking about getting rid of some of the old players that need to go. After Pau Nash needs to be next out the door. I know that Pau was once a good big man and helped the Lakers get #15 and #16 but its business and the deal no longer works so they have to move on. Im just sorry that they payed Kobe so much based on previous performance. Although he may come back and live up to the contract like he has in past but they should have waited for him to be healthy before they paid him so much.

  • 3339

    If this trade went through and the Lakers did keep Bynum dantoni would probably have him shooting jumpers rather than post up cause thats what his bullshit system calls for.
    But seriously Lakers might as well do this. Don’t even use Pau anyway and Pau just wants to play. Shows that the Lakers are in full tank mode with Kobe out, dantoni still here, and now just giving away players for nothing.
    As soon as Bynum gets waived by either us, cleveland, or bulls, he probably signs with miami.

    • Daryl Peek

      Really? MDA has been trying to get Pau to man up in the post all season. Hill and Kaman have.

      • 3339

        stop it.

        • Daryl Peek

          ?!?

        • Daryl Peek

          Stop what? Just because you hate MDA don’t mean others should not report the truth.

          • 3339

            dantoni is ruining our team. I don’t give a shit what you say.

            I have eyes, I watch the games. They have been a sloppy mess ever since he took over.

          • Daryl Peek

            I really don’t care about your BULLSHIT! MDA has been begging Pau to hit the post and or roll to the basket. They’ve been a mess due to all the injuries also. Please GTFOH with the dumb shit!

          • 3339

            Yes you do. Cause you always reply and act like you’re a Lakers insider.

          • Daryl Peek

            You see me and others, I’ve noticed you having beef with like that because were making sound unbiased commentary on what we see out of the team.

            Meanwhile you make declarations about how you’re no longer a Lakers fan because of how much you hate D’Antoni?

            Everyone is entitled to their opinion but constantly bringing personal bias helps what? 6 of our 15 players on roster are sitting out hurt, 5 of them are our primary ball handlers. You’ll find a way to blame that on D’Antoni.

            Imagine taking Norris Cole, Dwayne Wade, LeBron, Chalmers, Roger Mason out of the Heat line up right now for 4-6 weeks and having a sick Bosh on and off the court? How many games would they win?

      • Troy

        True. But there are still people that have blinders on who don’t see that Pau does get the ball down low with all the room in the world to do his thing and post up, but he doesn’t do it either through lack of effort or just being physically overmatched. After setting picks, Pau doesn’t rotate and go hard to the paint and instead settles for outside J’s.

    • LakersHeatBeef

      I can’t argue with you’re post.I just know what’s coming next.Hard times.

  • NICK THE QUICK

    Dan Gilbert never wants to deal with the Lakers and is not going to push and shove when it comes to wanting a 1st round draft pick in the mix for Bynum.

  • LakersHeatBeef

    Lakers are dumping Pau Gasol.Nothing in return.Waiving AB.Not happy SMH.

  • LakersHeatBeef

    Pau Gasol was good solider and now he is no longer wanted.I Love big bird.

  • LakersHeatBeef

    It is the last year on his damn deal why wait so long to dump him?Clears up after this season just renounce his rights.Clearing cap space is not so hard.

  • LakersHeatBeef

    Lakers keep losing star players without getting any return.D12 now Pau???

  • Jim213

    Salary dump with a first rounder if this inept management is thinking clearly.

    • Daryl Peek

      Inept or not, in your opinion, you’re fooling yourself if you think Pau will bring back a 1st round pick.

      • Jim213

        Just means more ineptness but M Medina mentions “Lakers would never under any circumstances” accept the proposal Windhorst and Shelburne reported overnight. Pau’s #1 supporter turns his back on him.

        But aside of that other reports say that the Cavs would be willing to let go a #1! pick per MIami Heat 2015 pick up. How’s that for kidding yourself Daryl. But you mentioned back in the summer that he’d never be traded DARYL?! given his value. Pau’s a great person but this is business/competition. Been telling you that all summer Daryl being his inconsistency. STOP IT! #fools gold

  • GM Jack

    Happy New Year. Gasol is not the problem. It is not his fault that he is being paid $19 million dollars. Gasol, can stay with the Lakers but at a deep drastic cut rate.

  • BizzA

    If only a pick would be included in this trade, i’d say pull the trigger but cleveland won’t give up a pick for Gasol

  • Marty Susman

    There is NO question, the Lakers should jump on the deal & even offer to send over along with Gasol, Nash,(teach K. Irving) & Johnson BUT the Cav’s need to include Waiters.

  • Barry Bunes

    That would be REALLy Stupid. Bynaum will be available on waivers for half his price now Jan 7. We don’t need swagger we need a machine

  • GM Jack

    That is correct. Bynum will be available for $2 million after the waiver. The trade discussion has no business feasibility. And, Gasol can execute his 3 years deal worth @ 15 million dollars.

    Happy ending to this controversy!

  • Ronald Velez

    LAL: Nerlens Noel Andrew Bynum 1st rd pck from Cavs 2015

    Cle: Thaddeus Young Evan Turner Pau Gasol Hollis Thompson Shawne Williams

    PHI: Tristan Thompson Dion Waiters Anthony Bennett Anderson Vajerao

    All the teams in this trade benefit. Lakers get cap relief after they dump Bynum, they get a young, athletic rim protector in Nerlens, and they get a draft pick. Cavs get 3 great players in Evan Turner, Thaddeus Young, and Pau Gasol who can help Kyrie Irving and the Cavs towards a playoff push in the East. Sixers get good young players in Dion Waiters, Anothony Bennett, Tristan Thompson and Anderson Varejao. MCW and Waiters can be a promising young back court and Thompson is a young solid big putting up good numbers along with Andy who is a solid big who will give cap relief due to his team option.

  • Mike Dumtoni

    To be honest, if we had Phil Jackson coaching right now, I think the Lakers could develop Bynum into a really good player. He has better post moves than Dwight, but the main problem would be how to get the guy motivated. I think Phil could help with that. But with D’Antoni now, Bynum would still be Bynum.

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